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Published on November 6th, 2016 | by Steve Hanley

Ghosn Wants An $8,000 Electric Car For China Market

November 6th, 2016 by  
 

Speaking at the New York Times Energy Conference in Paris last week, Nissan-Renault CEO Carlos Ghosn told reporters he has plans to offer an all electric car in the Chinese market that will sell for no more than $8,000 after all incentives. Ultimately, he wants to build an electric car that costs as little as $7,000 without incentives. Those are ambitious goals. “If we are able to make this kind of breakthrough, it’s going to change the game,” Ghosn said.

 

Carlos Ghosn NIssan CEO in Detroit

Nissan’s efforts to sell a rebadged version of the LEAF in China have met with little success. Ghosn says the LEAF, known as the Venucia e30 in China, just costs too much money for mainstream Chinese buyers, most of whom are not tech company billionaires. The Venucia e30 sells for around $37,000 in China. “What we want to do is bring a $7,000-8,000 electric car without incentives,” he said.

At the present time, the government of China offers buyers of so-called “new energy vehicles” substantial incentives that go beyond just rebates and credits. A person who buys an electric car is entitled to register it immediately. Those who purchase a conventional car must wait to get permision to register it through a lottery, a process that can take up to 5 years.

China has set a goal of 5,000,000 electric and plug-in cars on the road by 2020, but all those incentives are expensive. The government has indicated that it cannot afford to offer such generous provisions indefinitely. That’s what makes Ghosn’s target of under $8,000 without incentives so important. He is already planning for the time when all the help from the government will disappear.

Nissan’s chief executive offered no guidance on how he plans to accomplish his objective. Obviously he is expecting battery prices to continue falling but there has to be more to the equation than that. The cars themselves will be basic transportation with few frills, similar to American cars like the Ford Falcon that came standard with crank windows and rubber floor mats in the 60’s. That may be good enough for many Chinese shoppers who just want to be able to get from Point A to Point B and back again without walking.

Source: Economic Times of India





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  • Tadeusz Piskozub

    Here’s how I think they could pull this off: A new Dacia(subsidiary of Renault) Sandero is ~$8k. I’m assuming half of that cost is the powertrain.

    So all they need to do is pull out that engine and transmission and replace them with a 35kw(peak power) motor + power electronics(~$2k set) and batteries from LG Chem, which are known to cost $145/kWh.

    And there we have it: an underpowered, low quality but still driveable EV with a range of approx 100km that costs around ~$10k before incentives.

    • Steve Hanley

      Yup, that’s probably pretty close to what Smilin’ Carlos has in mind.

    • t_

      I recently read about a company that converts and sells Dacia vehicles. The cheapest was 12000 EUR (Range 180 km(~112 miles)). They even had a version that can go up to 300 miles. The most expensive was 26000 EUR I think. If an outside company can do it, Renault definitely can do it better and cheaper. And the chinese can produce it cheaper than the Dacia guys.

      • Radical Ignorant

        Not sure why Chinese could do it cheaper than Dacia, but except that totally agree. EVs can became dirt cheap.

        • t_

          They usually manage to make bigger economies of scale. And as Renault can do it with bigger volumes production, cheaper electric not luxorious car is absolutely acheivable. The car makers just need to give up the model of “new = expensive”. Then the electric cars will get mainstream fast and bring profits with them.

  • Chris Jordan

    LOL! Another Elio perhaps.

  • t_

    8000 for China should mean 12 – 15000 for US and Europe possible.

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