Comments on: The Next Step In Future Transportation: Marine Highways? http://gas2.org/2010/07/27/the-next-step-in-future-transportation-marine-highways/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:57:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: apex http://gas2.org/2010/07/27/the-next-step-in-future-transportation-marine-highways/#comment-16758 apex Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:48:21 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=8944#comment-16758 Boats are more efficient, but it's not a good idea. One of the unfortunate tragedies of mankind is that we've used rivers and canals as transportation. It seems innocuous enough at first, but as infrastructure has grown, we've covered some of the best farmland with urban development. River deltas are for agriculture not transport of goods, and as the world's population grows we will need more efficient use of water and farming land. Rail is better b/c rail lines and train depots don't have to be built on ag land. Boats are more efficient, but it’s not a good idea.

One of the unfortunate tragedies of mankind is that we’ve used rivers and canals as transportation. It seems innocuous enough at first, but as infrastructure has grown, we’ve covered some of the best farmland with urban development. River deltas are for agriculture not transport of goods, and as the world’s population grows we will need more efficient use of water and farming land.

Rail is better b/c rail lines and train depots don’t have to be built on ag land.

]]> By: apex http://gas2.org/2010/07/27/the-next-step-in-future-transportation-marine-highways/#comment-39555 apex Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:48:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=8944#comment-39555 Boats are more efficient, but it's not a good idea. One of the unfortunate tragedies of mankind is that we've used rivers and canals as transportation. It seems innocuous enough at first, but as infrastructure has grown, we've covered some of the best farmland with urban development. River deltas are for agriculture not transport of goods, and as the world's population grows we will need more efficient use of water and farming land. Rail is better b/c rail lines and train depots don't have to be built on ag land. Boats are more efficient, but it’s not a good idea.

One of the unfortunate tragedies of mankind is that we’ve used rivers and canals as transportation. It seems innocuous enough at first, but as infrastructure has grown, we’ve covered some of the best farmland with urban development. River deltas are for agriculture not transport of goods, and as the world’s population grows we will need more efficient use of water and farming land.

Rail is better b/c rail lines and train depots don’t have to be built on ag land.

]]> By: Fernando http://gas2.org/2010/07/27/the-next-step-in-future-transportation-marine-highways/#comment-16757 Fernando Sun, 01 Aug 2010 21:08:53 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=8944#comment-16757 Actually, those trucks don't have terrible gas mileage. 6 or 7 MPG? While towing 80,000 lbs? Let's see your piece of shit Prius do that. Let's say the average car weigh 2 tons (4000 lbs.) 80,000/4000=20 20*6=120 So, the equivalent of 120 mpg per vehicle (approximately, obviously that's not an exact science). Yeah, shove it. Actually, those trucks don’t have terrible gas mileage. 6 or 7 MPG? While towing 80,000 lbs? Let’s see your piece of shit Prius do that. Let’s say the average car weigh 2 tons (4000 lbs.)

80,000/4000=20

20*6=120

So, the equivalent of 120 mpg per vehicle (approximately, obviously that’s not an exact science). Yeah, shove it.

]]> By: Fernando http://gas2.org/2010/07/27/the-next-step-in-future-transportation-marine-highways/#comment-39554 Fernando Sun, 01 Aug 2010 21:08:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=8944#comment-39554 Actually, those trucks don't have terrible gas mileage. 6 or 7 MPG? While towing 80,000 lbs? Let's see your piece of shit Prius do that. Let's say the average car weigh 2 tons (4000 lbs.) 80,000/4000=20 20*6=120 So, the equivalent of 120 mpg per vehicle (approximately, obviously that's not an exact science). Yeah, shove it. Actually, those trucks don’t have terrible gas mileage. 6 or 7 MPG? While towing 80,000 lbs? Let’s see your piece of shit Prius do that. Let’s say the average car weigh 2 tons (4000 lbs.)

80,000/4000=20

20*6=120

So, the equivalent of 120 mpg per vehicle (approximately, obviously that’s not an exact science). Yeah, shove it.

]]> By: Alex http://gas2.org/2010/07/27/the-next-step-in-future-transportation-marine-highways/#comment-16756 Alex Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:12:38 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=8944#comment-16756 to me that cargo trucks are only one factor contributing to congestion. the major problem is just what you said, capacity has not changed much if at all and there continue to be more people on the road every day. roads here were just not designed for the amount of traffic that they get. it doesn't help that most people don't have a clue how to drive in congested traffic... to me that cargo trucks are only one factor contributing to congestion. the major problem is just what you said, capacity has not changed much if at all and there continue to be more people on the road every day. roads here were just not designed for the amount of traffic that they get. it doesn’t help that most people don’t have a clue how to drive in congested traffic…

]]> By: Alex http://gas2.org/2010/07/27/the-next-step-in-future-transportation-marine-highways/#comment-39553 Alex Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:12:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=8944#comment-39553 to me that cargo trucks are only one factor contributing to congestion. the major problem is just what you said, capacity has not changed much if at all and there continue to be more people on the road every day. roads here were just not designed for the amount of traffic that they get. it doesn't help that most people don't have a clue how to drive in congested traffic... to me that cargo trucks are only one factor contributing to congestion. the major problem is just what you said, capacity has not changed much if at all and there continue to be more people on the road every day. roads here were just not designed for the amount of traffic that they get. it doesn’t help that most people don’t have a clue how to drive in congested traffic…

]]> By: Harold http://gas2.org/2010/07/27/the-next-step-in-future-transportation-marine-highways/#comment-16755 Harold Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:59:33 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=8944#comment-16755 European waterways generally don't freeze up in winter. Barges in the U.S. do carry enourmous amounts of goods. Look at the Mississippi for example. Or the Hudson. That which can travel efficiently by ship in the US is travelling by ship. Ship travel here is suitable for bulk items such as coal, ore, oil, grain. Stuff which requires a constant pipeline flow. Containers from city to city travel faster by rail or truck, and most containers carry time valued contents. Rail in the last decade has taken a tremendous number of trucks off the road, and will continue to do so if left unregulated. Also, they've almost doubled ton miles/gallon. The governement is making noises about reregulating them... European waterways generally don’t freeze up in winter. Barges in the U.S. do carry enourmous amounts of goods. Look at the Mississippi for example. Or the Hudson. That which can travel efficiently by ship in the US is travelling by ship. Ship travel here is suitable for bulk items such as coal, ore, oil, grain. Stuff which requires a constant pipeline flow. Containers from city to city travel faster by rail or truck, and most containers carry time valued contents.

Rail in the last decade has taken a tremendous number of trucks off the road, and will continue to do so if left unregulated. Also, they’ve almost doubled ton miles/gallon. The governement is making noises about reregulating them…

]]> By: Harold http://gas2.org/2010/07/27/the-next-step-in-future-transportation-marine-highways/#comment-39552 Harold Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:59:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=8944#comment-39552 European waterways generally don't freeze up in winter. Barges in the U.S. do carry enourmous amounts of goods. Look at the Mississippi for example. Or the Hudson. That which can travel efficiently by ship in the US is travelling by ship. Ship travel here is suitable for bulk items such as coal, ore, oil, grain. Stuff which requires a constant pipeline flow. Containers from city to city travel faster by rail or truck, and most containers carry time valued contents. Rail in the last decade has taken a tremendous number of trucks off the road, and will continue to do so if left unregulated. Also, they've almost doubled ton miles/gallon. The governement is making noises about reregulating them... European waterways generally don’t freeze up in winter. Barges in the U.S. do carry enourmous amounts of goods. Look at the Mississippi for example. Or the Hudson. That which can travel efficiently by ship in the US is travelling by ship. Ship travel here is suitable for bulk items such as coal, ore, oil, grain. Stuff which requires a constant pipeline flow. Containers from city to city travel faster by rail or truck, and most containers carry time valued contents.

Rail in the last decade has taken a tremendous number of trucks off the road, and will continue to do so if left unregulated. Also, they’ve almost doubled ton miles/gallon. The governement is making noises about reregulating them…

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