Comments on: Kuwaiti Scientists Say Peak Oil Will Arrive in 2014 http://gas2.org/2010/03/10/kuwaiti-scientists-say-peak-oil-will-arrive-in-2014/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:57:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: douglas prince http://gas2.org/2010/03/10/kuwaiti-scientists-say-peak-oil-will-arrive-in-2014/#comment-14199 douglas prince Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:20:18 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=5838#comment-14199 Dean, Laffer, Harry -- Please, please, folks. Let's try to keep this conversation in an adult and reasonable manner. There is no need for sniping or nit-picking. We should be able to discuss this topic with respect and consideration to each other's feelings and mentalities. You stupid turd-monkeys... Dean, Laffer, Harry — Please, please, folks. Let’s try to keep this conversation in an adult and reasonable manner. There is no need for sniping or nit-picking. We should be able to discuss this topic with respect and consideration to each other’s feelings and mentalities.

You stupid turd-monkeys…

]]> By: douglas prince http://gas2.org/2010/03/10/kuwaiti-scientists-say-peak-oil-will-arrive-in-2014/#comment-37927 douglas prince Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:20:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=5838#comment-37927 Dean, Laffer, Harry -- Please, please, folks. Let's try to keep this conversation in an adult and reasonable manner. There is no need for sniping or nit-picking. We should be able to discuss this topic with respect and consideration to each other's feelings and mentalities. You stupid turd-monkeys... Dean, Laffer, Harry — Please, please, folks. Let’s try to keep this conversation in an adult and reasonable manner. There is no need for sniping or nit-picking. We should be able to discuss this topic with respect and consideration to each other’s feelings and mentalities.

You stupid turd-monkeys…

]]> By: Dean http://gas2.org/2010/03/10/kuwaiti-scientists-say-peak-oil-will-arrive-in-2014/#comment-14198 Dean Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:23:14 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=5838#comment-14198 "There will therefore be no collapse of our civilization due to peak oil, just another adaptation to new market conditions." Jean: I wish I had your crystal ball that allows you to see the future so clearly... One problem with your theory...the population of the Earth is increasing in an exponential fashion. Oil is not the only commodity that will peak...there are finite sources of lithium available (think EV batteries)as well as water, copper, iron... Couple this with the developing nations (China, India...) demanding the same standard of living and consuming the finite resource pool at the same rate as the West historically has. I'm afraid the philosophy of "business as usual" is not going to work, and the world is in for a massive wake-up call. Check this out for a great in depth study of this very topic: http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse/chapter-3-exponential-growth “There will therefore be no collapse of our civilization due to peak oil, just another adaptation to new market conditions.”

Jean:

I wish I had your crystal ball that allows you to see the future so clearly…

One problem with your theory…the population of the Earth is increasing in an exponential fashion. Oil is not the only commodity that will peak…there are finite sources of lithium available (think EV batteries)as well as water, copper, iron…

Couple this with the developing nations (China, India…) demanding the same standard of living and consuming the finite resource pool at the same rate as the West historically has. I’m afraid the philosophy of “business as usual” is not going to work, and the world is in for a massive wake-up call.

Check this out for a great in depth study of this very topic:

http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse/chapter-3-exponential-growth

]]> By: Dean http://gas2.org/2010/03/10/kuwaiti-scientists-say-peak-oil-will-arrive-in-2014/#comment-37926 Dean Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:23:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=5838#comment-37926 "There will therefore be no collapse of our civilization due to peak oil, just another adaptation to new market conditions." Jean: I wish I had your crystal ball that allows you to see the future so clearly... One problem with your theory...the population of the Earth is increasing in an exponential fashion. Oil is not the only commodity that will peak...there are finite sources of lithium available (think EV batteries)as well as water, copper, iron... Couple this with the developing nations (China, India...) demanding the same standard of living and consuming the finite resource pool at the same rate as the West historically has. I'm afraid the philosophy of "business as usual" is not going to work, and the world is in for a massive wake-up call. Check this out for a great in depth study of this very topic: http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse/chapter-3-exponential-growth “There will therefore be no collapse of our civilization due to peak oil, just another adaptation to new market conditions.”

Jean:

I wish I had your crystal ball that allows you to see the future so clearly…

One problem with your theory…the population of the Earth is increasing in an exponential fashion. Oil is not the only commodity that will peak…there are finite sources of lithium available (think EV batteries)as well as water, copper, iron…

Couple this with the developing nations (China, India…) demanding the same standard of living and consuming the finite resource pool at the same rate as the West historically has. I’m afraid the philosophy of “business as usual” is not going to work, and the world is in for a massive wake-up call.

Check this out for a great in depth study of this very topic:

http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse/chapter-3-exponential-growth

]]> By: Jean http://gas2.org/2010/03/10/kuwaiti-scientists-say-peak-oil-will-arrive-in-2014/#comment-14197 Jean Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:53:11 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=5838#comment-14197 This is a great model to predict the past but it does not take into account the arrival of EVs, because they have not arrived. EVs and their batteries will stabilize the price of oil to match the ROI of EV batteries. I can't tell you what this price is but it does exist and will be met at some point because the price of oil will increase while the cost of batteries will decrease. After this point, as the cost of batteries continue to go down, more EVs will be produced because of the better ROI, less oil will be consumed, and the price of oil will decline. This means that instead of a bell curve, oil reserves will have a long tail, decreasing at a slower rate after batteries ROI meet oil. Alternative energies in general, not just EV, will force the long tail. There will therefore be no collapse of our civilization due to peak oil, just another adaptation to new market conditions. This is a great model to predict the past but it does not take into account the arrival of EVs, because they have not arrived.

EVs and their batteries will stabilize the price of oil to match the ROI of EV batteries.

I can’t tell you what this price is but it does exist and will be met at some point because the price of oil will increase while the cost of batteries will decrease.

After this point, as the cost of batteries continue to go down, more EVs will be produced because of the better ROI, less oil will be consumed, and the price of oil will decline.

This means that instead of a bell curve, oil reserves will have a long tail, decreasing at a slower rate after batteries ROI meet oil.

Alternative energies in general, not just EV, will force the long tail.

There will therefore be no collapse of our civilization due to peak oil, just another adaptation to new market conditions.

]]> By: Jean http://gas2.org/2010/03/10/kuwaiti-scientists-say-peak-oil-will-arrive-in-2014/#comment-37925 Jean Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:53:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=5838#comment-37925 This is a great model to predict the past but it does not take into account the arrival of EVs, because they have not arrived. EVs and their batteries will stabilize the price of oil to match the ROI of EV batteries. I can't tell you what this price is but it does exist and will be met at some point because the price of oil will increase while the cost of batteries will decrease. After this point, as the cost of batteries continue to go down, more EVs will be produced because of the better ROI, less oil will be consumed, and the price of oil will decline. This means that instead of a bell curve, oil reserves will have a long tail, decreasing at a slower rate after batteries ROI meet oil. Alternative energies in general, not just EV, will force the long tail. There will therefore be no collapse of our civilization due to peak oil, just another adaptation to new market conditions. This is a great model to predict the past but it does not take into account the arrival of EVs, because they have not arrived.

EVs and their batteries will stabilize the price of oil to match the ROI of EV batteries.

I can’t tell you what this price is but it does exist and will be met at some point because the price of oil will increase while the cost of batteries will decrease.

After this point, as the cost of batteries continue to go down, more EVs will be produced because of the better ROI, less oil will be consumed, and the price of oil will decline.

This means that instead of a bell curve, oil reserves will have a long tail, decreasing at a slower rate after batteries ROI meet oil.

Alternative energies in general, not just EV, will force the long tail.

There will therefore be no collapse of our civilization due to peak oil, just another adaptation to new market conditions.

]]> By: Jonathan Callahan http://gas2.org/2010/03/10/kuwaiti-scientists-say-peak-oil-will-arrive-in-2014/#comment-37924 Jonathan Callahan Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:36:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=5838#comment-37924 Interested readers may wish to review the data on oil production & consumption themselves by looking at the graphs at the Energy Export Databrowser: http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/ This interactive educational tool allows users to interrogate the British Petroleum Statistical Review and presents the results as a series of graphs of production, consumption, imports and exports for all oil producing and consuming nations. Quickly flipping through the charts for various oil producing nations will paint a pretty sobering picture of current and future availability of energy supplies. Interested readers may wish to review the data on oil production & consumption themselves by looking at the graphs at the Energy Export Databrowser:

http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/

This interactive educational tool allows users to interrogate the British Petroleum Statistical Review and presents the results as a series of graphs of production, consumption, imports and exports for all oil producing and consuming nations. Quickly flipping through the charts for various oil producing nations will paint a pretty sobering picture of current and future availability of energy supplies.

]]> By: Jonathan Callahan http://gas2.org/2010/03/10/kuwaiti-scientists-say-peak-oil-will-arrive-in-2014/#comment-14196 Jonathan Callahan Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:36:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=5838#comment-14196 Interested readers may wish to review the data on oil production & consumption themselves by looking at the graphs at the Energy Export Databrowser: http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/ This interactive educational tool allows users to interrogate the British Petroleum Statistical Review and presents the results as a series of graphs of production, consumption, imports and exports for all oil producing and consuming nations. Quickly flipping through the charts for various oil producing nations will paint a pretty sobering picture of current and future availability of energy supplies. Interested readers may wish to review the data on oil production & consumption themselves by looking at the graphs at the Energy Export Databrowser:

http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/

This interactive educational tool allows users to interrogate the British Petroleum Statistical Review and presents the results as a series of graphs of production, consumption, imports and exports for all oil producing and consuming nations. Quickly flipping through the charts for various oil producing nations will paint a pretty sobering picture of current and future availability of energy supplies.

]]> By: Dean http://gas2.org/2010/03/10/kuwaiti-scientists-say-peak-oil-will-arrive-in-2014/#comment-14195 Dean Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:35:48 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=5838#comment-14195 "Um, no. Actually energy gets more efficient as time goes on" Oh really...which law of physics states that? Waiting for your witty reply...move along... “Um, no. Actually energy gets more efficient as time goes on”

Oh really…which law of physics states that?

Waiting for your witty reply…move along…

]]> By: Dean http://gas2.org/2010/03/10/kuwaiti-scientists-say-peak-oil-will-arrive-in-2014/#comment-37923 Dean Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:35:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=5838#comment-37923 "Um, no. Actually energy gets more efficient as time goes on" Oh really...which law of physics states that? Waiting for your witty reply...move along... “Um, no. Actually energy gets more efficient as time goes on”

Oh really…which law of physics states that?

Waiting for your witty reply…move along…

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