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	<title>Comments on: Cash For Clunkers 2.0?</title>
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		<title>By: Ben Cartwright's Horse</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2010/01/18/cash-for-clunkers-20/#comment-14194</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Cartwright's Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The folks who dislike C4C are usually Rush Limbaugh&#039;s braindead dittohead groupies, and others similarly affected by the GOP&#039;s propaganda pushers on right-wing radio.



George W. Bush planned to do nothing to assist our domestic Auto makers and would have let them go bankrupt and into oblivion.  Obama saved GM and Chrysler, as Ronald Reagan similarly saved Chrysler and Harley Davidon in the 1980s.  Where were the dittoheads and teabaggers when Reagan threw out the lifeline twenty plus years ago?



Anything Obama tries to do the mindless GOP walking dead automatically resist, especially if it helps America recover from the mess that George W. Bush made.



C4C kept what&#039;s left of our domestic manufacturing economy humming as auto makers cleared long unsold new car inventories in only 30 days.



C4C helped keep fuel prices in check as hundreds of thousands of giant gas guzzlers were taken off our roads and replaced with fuel efficent vehicles.



C4C had many other helpful and long lasting effects, including cleaner air, and the multiplier effects of  new car sales and the accompanying taxes they brought into local municipalities, along with the services that go hand-in-hand with new cars sales; including auto insurance, paint &amp; body shops, parts suppliers, etc.



Another round of C4C would be another shot in the arm for the American economy, but the program should be tweaked to help those most in need, as higher subsidies should be focused toward those with modest incomes and qualifying vehicles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The folks who dislike C4C are usually Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s braindead dittohead groupies, and others similarly affected by the GOP&#8217;s propaganda pushers on right-wing radio.</p>
<p>George W. Bush planned to do nothing to assist our domestic Auto makers and would have let them go bankrupt and into oblivion.  Obama saved GM and Chrysler, as Ronald Reagan similarly saved Chrysler and Harley Davidon in the 1980s.  Where were the dittoheads and teabaggers when Reagan threw out the lifeline twenty plus years ago?</p>
<p>Anything Obama tries to do the mindless GOP walking dead automatically resist, especially if it helps America recover from the mess that George W. Bush made.</p>
<p>C4C kept what&#8217;s left of our domestic manufacturing economy humming as auto makers cleared long unsold new car inventories in only 30 days.</p>
<p>C4C helped keep fuel prices in check as hundreds of thousands of giant gas guzzlers were taken off our roads and replaced with fuel efficent vehicles.</p>
<p>C4C had many other helpful and long lasting effects, including cleaner air, and the multiplier effects of  new car sales and the accompanying taxes they brought into local municipalities, along with the services that go hand-in-hand with new cars sales; including auto insurance, paint &amp; body shops, parts suppliers, etc.</p>
<p>Another round of C4C would be another shot in the arm for the American economy, but the program should be tweaked to help those most in need, as higher subsidies should be focused toward those with modest incomes and qualifying vehicles.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Cartwright's Horse</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2010/01/18/cash-for-clunkers-20/#comment-37273</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Cartwright's Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The folks who dislike C4C are usually Rush Limbaugh&#039;s braindead dittohead groupies, and others similarly affected by the GOP&#039;s propaganda pushers on right-wing radio.



George W. Bush planned to do nothing to assist our domestic Auto makers and would have let them go bankrupt and into oblivion.  Obama saved GM and Chrysler, as Ronald Reagan similarly saved Chrysler and Harley Davidon in the 1980s.  Where were the dittoheads and teabaggers when Reagan threw out the lifeline twenty plus years ago?



Anything Obama tries to do the mindless GOP walking dead automatically resist, especially if it helps America recover from the mess that George W. Bush made.



C4C kept what&#039;s left of our domestic manufacturing economy humming as auto makers cleared long unsold new car inventories in only 30 days.



C4C helped keep fuel prices in check as hundreds of thousands of giant gas guzzlers were taken off our roads and replaced with fuel efficent vehicles.



C4C had many other helpful and long lasting effects, including cleaner air, and the multiplier effects of  new car sales and the accompanying taxes they brought into local municipalities, along with the services that go hand-in-hand with new cars sales; including auto insurance, paint &amp; body shops, parts suppliers, etc.



Another round of C4C would be another shot in the arm for the American economy, but the program should be tweaked to help those most in need, as higher subsidies should be focused toward those with modest incomes and qualifying vehicles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The folks who dislike C4C are usually Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s braindead dittohead groupies, and others similarly affected by the GOP&#8217;s propaganda pushers on right-wing radio.</p>
<p>George W. Bush planned to do nothing to assist our domestic Auto makers and would have let them go bankrupt and into oblivion.  Obama saved GM and Chrysler, as Ronald Reagan similarly saved Chrysler and Harley Davidon in the 1980s.  Where were the dittoheads and teabaggers when Reagan threw out the lifeline twenty plus years ago?</p>
<p>Anything Obama tries to do the mindless GOP walking dead automatically resist, especially if it helps America recover from the mess that George W. Bush made.</p>
<p>C4C kept what&#8217;s left of our domestic manufacturing economy humming as auto makers cleared long unsold new car inventories in only 30 days.</p>
<p>C4C helped keep fuel prices in check as hundreds of thousands of giant gas guzzlers were taken off our roads and replaced with fuel efficent vehicles.</p>
<p>C4C had many other helpful and long lasting effects, including cleaner air, and the multiplier effects of  new car sales and the accompanying taxes they brought into local municipalities, along with the services that go hand-in-hand with new cars sales; including auto insurance, paint &amp; body shops, parts suppliers, etc.</p>
<p>Another round of C4C would be another shot in the arm for the American economy, but the program should be tweaked to help those most in need, as higher subsidies should be focused toward those with modest incomes and qualifying vehicles.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2010/01/18/cash-for-clunkers-20/#comment-14193</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford&#039;s up 33%   That&#039;s the big number here.  They didn&#039;t take any government money when the slush fund was waved in front of their nose (We want our money back...oh wait).  By the way.  What have we accomplished by the move to hybrids? Has anyone ever thought to ask how batteries get disposed of when they need replaced or become inefficient?  Or better yet.  How much does it cost to replace one of these Prius batteries?  Mark my words, the next Clunker program will be the batteries from these trendy little cars. How much pollution does it take to get a NiMh battery to the market? How efficient is it over it&#039;s whole life (not just show-room stats)?  How much does it cost to dispose of these toxic batteries?  We&#039;ll need a program just to keep these out of our water cycle!  Gas guzzlers? It&#039;s the cool-aid guzzlers I&#039;m worried about.  I just hate seeing tax dollars wasted on speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford&#8217;s up 33%   That&#8217;s the big number here.  They didn&#8217;t take any government money when the slush fund was waved in front of their nose (We want our money back&#8230;oh wait).  By the way.  What have we accomplished by the move to hybrids? Has anyone ever thought to ask how batteries get disposed of when they need replaced or become inefficient?  Or better yet.  How much does it cost to replace one of these Prius batteries?  Mark my words, the next Clunker program will be the batteries from these trendy little cars. How much pollution does it take to get a NiMh battery to the market? How efficient is it over it&#8217;s whole life (not just show-room stats)?  How much does it cost to dispose of these toxic batteries?  We&#8217;ll need a program just to keep these out of our water cycle!  Gas guzzlers? It&#8217;s the cool-aid guzzlers I&#8217;m worried about.  I just hate seeing tax dollars wasted on speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2010/01/18/cash-for-clunkers-20/#comment-37272</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford&#039;s up 33%   That&#039;s the big number here.  They didn&#039;t take any government money when the slush fund was waved in front of their nose (We want our money back...oh wait).  By the way.  What have we accomplished by the move to hybrids? Has anyone ever thought to ask how batteries get disposed of when they need replaced or become inefficient?  Or better yet.  How much does it cost to replace one of these Prius batteries?  Mark my words, the next Clunker program will be the batteries from these trendy little cars. How much pollution does it take to get a NiMh battery to the market? How efficient is it over it&#039;s whole life (not just show-room stats)?  How much does it cost to dispose of these toxic batteries?  We&#039;ll need a program just to keep these out of our water cycle!  Gas guzzlers? It&#039;s the cool-aid guzzlers I&#039;m worried about.  I just hate seeing tax dollars wasted on speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford&#8217;s up 33%   That&#8217;s the big number here.  They didn&#8217;t take any government money when the slush fund was waved in front of their nose (We want our money back&#8230;oh wait).  By the way.  What have we accomplished by the move to hybrids? Has anyone ever thought to ask how batteries get disposed of when they need replaced or become inefficient?  Or better yet.  How much does it cost to replace one of these Prius batteries?  Mark my words, the next Clunker program will be the batteries from these trendy little cars. How much pollution does it take to get a NiMh battery to the market? How efficient is it over it&#8217;s whole life (not just show-room stats)?  How much does it cost to dispose of these toxic batteries?  We&#8217;ll need a program just to keep these out of our water cycle!  Gas guzzlers? It&#8217;s the cool-aid guzzlers I&#8217;m worried about.  I just hate seeing tax dollars wasted on speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: juangault</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2010/01/18/cash-for-clunkers-20/#comment-14191</link>
		<dc:creator>juangault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rebates for trading in low MPG vehicles was a good idea.  I think another good idea would be to index federal and state fuel taxes to a time when Bill Clinton was president.  The tax should be a percentage of the price of fuel.  Raising the taxes on fuel, with deductions for commercial use, would probably have the same effect as the &quot;C4C&quot; program.  The tax hike should be directed to paying off the Iraq war, cleaning up old oil towns and fields, and generally reducing our consumption, in the spirit of reducing the &quot;carbon footprint&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rebates for trading in low MPG vehicles was a good idea.  I think another good idea would be to index federal and state fuel taxes to a time when Bill Clinton was president.  The tax should be a percentage of the price of fuel.  Raising the taxes on fuel, with deductions for commercial use, would probably have the same effect as the &#8220;C4C&#8221; program.  The tax hike should be directed to paying off the Iraq war, cleaning up old oil towns and fields, and generally reducing our consumption, in the spirit of reducing the &#8220;carbon footprint&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: juangault</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2010/01/18/cash-for-clunkers-20/#comment-37271</link>
		<dc:creator>juangault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rebates for trading in low MPG vehicles was a good idea.  I think another good idea would be to index federal and state fuel taxes to a time when Bill Clinton was president.  The tax should be a percentage of the price of fuel.  Raising the taxes on fuel, with deductions for commercial use, would probably have the same effect as the &quot;C4C&quot; program.  The tax hike should be directed to paying off the Iraq war, cleaning up old oil towns and fields, and generally reducing our consumption, in the spirit of reducing the &quot;carbon footprint&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rebates for trading in low MPG vehicles was a good idea.  I think another good idea would be to index federal and state fuel taxes to a time when Bill Clinton was president.  The tax should be a percentage of the price of fuel.  Raising the taxes on fuel, with deductions for commercial use, would probably have the same effect as the &#8220;C4C&#8221; program.  The tax hike should be directed to paying off the Iraq war, cleaning up old oil towns and fields, and generally reducing our consumption, in the spirit of reducing the &#8220;carbon footprint&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: sheckyvegas</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2010/01/18/cash-for-clunkers-20/#comment-14189</link>
		<dc:creator>sheckyvegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris - When did GM get out of bankruptcy? Didn&#039;t they just get another multi-million dollar government loan a couple weeks ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; When did GM get out of bankruptcy? Didn&#8217;t they just get another multi-million dollar government loan a couple weeks ago?</p>
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		<title>By: sheckyvegas</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2010/01/18/cash-for-clunkers-20/#comment-37270</link>
		<dc:creator>sheckyvegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris - When did GM get out of bankruptcy? Didn&#039;t they just get another multi-million dollar government loan a couple weeks ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; When did GM get out of bankruptcy? Didn&#8217;t they just get another multi-million dollar government loan a couple weeks ago?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Cleland</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2010/01/18/cash-for-clunkers-20/#comment-14188</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Cleland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It was policy founded on good science that showed that (surprisingly enough) swapping the worst guzzlers (like 10 mpg) for a merely medium bad(20 mpg) saves more fuel than swapping a pretty good (40 mpg) for a great fuel saver (50 mpg Prius).&quot;



This has been GM&#039;s and Ford&#039;s position on hybrids since the start.  Why make hybrid small cars like Prius/Insight when bigger vehicles like trucks/SUVs (and buses) are the biggest fuel wasters?  Make hybrid trucks/SUVs (buses), instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was policy founded on good science that showed that (surprisingly enough) swapping the worst guzzlers (like 10 mpg) for a merely medium bad(20 mpg) saves more fuel than swapping a pretty good (40 mpg) for a great fuel saver (50 mpg Prius).&#8221;</p>
<p>This has been GM&#8217;s and Ford&#8217;s position on hybrids since the start.  Why make hybrid small cars like Prius/Insight when bigger vehicles like trucks/SUVs (and buses) are the biggest fuel wasters?  Make hybrid trucks/SUVs (buses), instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Cleland</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2010/01/18/cash-for-clunkers-20/#comment-37269</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Cleland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It was policy founded on good science that showed that (surprisingly enough) swapping the worst guzzlers (like 10 mpg) for a merely medium bad(20 mpg) saves more fuel than swapping a pretty good (40 mpg) for a great fuel saver (50 mpg Prius).&quot;



This has been GM&#039;s and Ford&#039;s position on hybrids since the start.  Why make hybrid small cars like Prius/Insight when bigger vehicles like trucks/SUVs (and buses) are the biggest fuel wasters?  Make hybrid trucks/SUVs (buses), instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was policy founded on good science that showed that (surprisingly enough) swapping the worst guzzlers (like 10 mpg) for a merely medium bad(20 mpg) saves more fuel than swapping a pretty good (40 mpg) for a great fuel saver (50 mpg Prius).&#8221;</p>
<p>This has been GM&#8217;s and Ford&#8217;s position on hybrids since the start.  Why make hybrid small cars like Prius/Insight when bigger vehicles like trucks/SUVs (and buses) are the biggest fuel wasters?  Make hybrid trucks/SUVs (buses), instead.</p>
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