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	<title>Comments on: Nissan LEAF Electric Car on the Streets of San Francisco by 2010</title>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/08/nissan-leaf-electric-car-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco-by-2010/#comment-36885</link>
		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the most important part of it all is that EV&#039;s help save the environment.If that is what it takes to stop global warming or at least slow it down, then I welcome EV&#039;s with open arms.Hope this will shake down the oil sheiks and maybe they could lower their oil prices for once!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most important part of it all is that EV&#8217;s help save the environment.If that is what it takes to stop global warming or at least slow it down, then I welcome EV&#8217;s with open arms.Hope this will shake down the oil sheiks and maybe they could lower their oil prices for once!!!</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/08/nissan-leaf-electric-car-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco-by-2010/#comment-36886</link>
		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the most important part of it all is that EV&#039;s help save the environment.If that is what it takes to stop global warming or at least slow it down, then I welcome EV&#039;s with open arms.Hope this will shake down the oil sheiks and maybe they could lower their oil prices for once!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most important part of it all is that EV&#8217;s help save the environment.If that is what it takes to stop global warming or at least slow it down, then I welcome EV&#8217;s with open arms.Hope this will shake down the oil sheiks and maybe they could lower their oil prices for once!!!</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/08/nissan-leaf-electric-car-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco-by-2010/#comment-36887</link>
		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the most important part of it all is that EV&#039;s help save the environment.If that is what it takes to stop global warming or at least slow it down, then I welcome EV&#039;s with open arms.Hope this will shake down the oil sheiks and maybe they could lower their oil prices for once!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most important part of it all is that EV&#8217;s help save the environment.If that is what it takes to stop global warming or at least slow it down, then I welcome EV&#8217;s with open arms.Hope this will shake down the oil sheiks and maybe they could lower their oil prices for once!!!</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/08/nissan-leaf-electric-car-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco-by-2010/#comment-13256</link>
		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the most important part of it all is that EV&#039;s help save the environment.If that is what it takes to stop global warming or at least slow it down, then I welcome EV&#039;s with open arms.Hope this will shake down the oil sheiks and maybe they could lower their oil prices for once!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most important part of it all is that EV&#8217;s help save the environment.If that is what it takes to stop global warming or at least slow it down, then I welcome EV&#8217;s with open arms.Hope this will shake down the oil sheiks and maybe they could lower their oil prices for once!!!</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/08/nissan-leaf-electric-car-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco-by-2010/#comment-13255</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh Greg has got something going on that he isn&#039;t revealing, like maybe a paycheck from the oil companies.



He simply won&#039;t accept the scientific comparison of EVs vs HFCVs with the 3x advantage going to EVs. No sirree, his blog fully covers all the talking points the EV crowd has and has an answer for all the points.



I would urge all EV supporters to spend a few minutes looking over his site to try and fathom it out, its worth a chuckle to see what the oil companies might have to say if they could use their own words. First of all he thinks the oil companies are hoping the EVs do really well but then flop because of the revolt against limited miles and that the people will realize the true replacement for gasoline is of course hydrogen. Praise be to hydrocarbon companies!



Sure there are improvements in fuel cells too, but even if the FC car was the same price as a gasoline car (like in 50 years perhaps), it would still suck in the 3x energy efficiency disadvantage. Of course FCs are nowhere near where he is projecting.



The really funny thing is that the HFCV is really just an EV with a different electrical energy source. So if FCs could be made real cheap, and if their efficiency was closer to that of a Li ion battery 95% and if hydrogen could be made without CO2 emissions and if it could be stored without leaking, and if it didn&#039;t stink of oil behind it, it might just be a winner.



Now the folks researching batteries seem to have lots of connections to the electronics industry that gives us continuous improvements every few years. On the other hand the hydrogen guys are with Mr Oil. I know which guys I&#039;d rather buy from.



All I can say to the folks in SF, I envy you, here in New England we have to wait another year after CA for the charging stations to roll out east while Nissan is looking at temp effects on the cells, oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh Greg has got something going on that he isn&#8217;t revealing, like maybe a paycheck from the oil companies.</p>
<p>He simply won&#8217;t accept the scientific comparison of EVs vs HFCVs with the 3x advantage going to EVs. No sirree, his blog fully covers all the talking points the EV crowd has and has an answer for all the points.</p>
<p>I would urge all EV supporters to spend a few minutes looking over his site to try and fathom it out, its worth a chuckle to see what the oil companies might have to say if they could use their own words. First of all he thinks the oil companies are hoping the EVs do really well but then flop because of the revolt against limited miles and that the people will realize the true replacement for gasoline is of course hydrogen. Praise be to hydrocarbon companies!</p>
<p>Sure there are improvements in fuel cells too, but even if the FC car was the same price as a gasoline car (like in 50 years perhaps), it would still suck in the 3x energy efficiency disadvantage. Of course FCs are nowhere near where he is projecting.</p>
<p>The really funny thing is that the HFCV is really just an EV with a different electrical energy source. So if FCs could be made real cheap, and if their efficiency was closer to that of a Li ion battery 95% and if hydrogen could be made without CO2 emissions and if it could be stored without leaking, and if it didn&#8217;t stink of oil behind it, it might just be a winner.</p>
<p>Now the folks researching batteries seem to have lots of connections to the electronics industry that gives us continuous improvements every few years. On the other hand the hydrogen guys are with Mr Oil. I know which guys I&#8217;d rather buy from.</p>
<p>All I can say to the folks in SF, I envy you, here in New England we have to wait another year after CA for the charging stations to roll out east while Nissan is looking at temp effects on the cells, oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/08/nissan-leaf-electric-car-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco-by-2010/#comment-36884</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh Greg has got something going on that he isn&#039;t revealing, like maybe a paycheck from the oil companies.



He simply won&#039;t accept the scientific comparison of EVs vs HFCVs with the 3x advantage going to EVs. No sirree, his blog fully covers all the talking points the EV crowd has and has an answer for all the points.



I would urge all EV supporters to spend a few minutes looking over his site to try and fathom it out, its worth a chuckle to see what the oil companies might have to say if they could use their own words. First of all he thinks the oil companies are hoping the EVs do really well but then flop because of the revolt against limited miles and that the people will realize the true replacement for gasoline is of course hydrogen. Praise be to hydrocarbon companies!



Sure there are improvements in fuel cells too, but even if the FC car was the same price as a gasoline car (like in 50 years perhaps), it would still suck in the 3x energy efficiency disadvantage. Of course FCs are nowhere near where he is projecting.



The really funny thing is that the HFCV is really just an EV with a different electrical energy source. So if FCs could be made real cheap, and if their efficiency was closer to that of a Li ion battery 95% and if hydrogen could be made without CO2 emissions and if it could be stored without leaking, and if it didn&#039;t stink of oil behind it, it might just be a winner.



Now the folks researching batteries seem to have lots of connections to the electronics industry that gives us continuous improvements every few years. On the other hand the hydrogen guys are with Mr Oil. I know which guys I&#039;d rather buy from.



All I can say to the folks in SF, I envy you, here in New England we have to wait another year after CA for the charging stations to roll out east while Nissan is looking at temp effects on the cells, oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh Greg has got something going on that he isn&#8217;t revealing, like maybe a paycheck from the oil companies.</p>
<p>He simply won&#8217;t accept the scientific comparison of EVs vs HFCVs with the 3x advantage going to EVs. No sirree, his blog fully covers all the talking points the EV crowd has and has an answer for all the points.</p>
<p>I would urge all EV supporters to spend a few minutes looking over his site to try and fathom it out, its worth a chuckle to see what the oil companies might have to say if they could use their own words. First of all he thinks the oil companies are hoping the EVs do really well but then flop because of the revolt against limited miles and that the people will realize the true replacement for gasoline is of course hydrogen. Praise be to hydrocarbon companies!</p>
<p>Sure there are improvements in fuel cells too, but even if the FC car was the same price as a gasoline car (like in 50 years perhaps), it would still suck in the 3x energy efficiency disadvantage. Of course FCs are nowhere near where he is projecting.</p>
<p>The really funny thing is that the HFCV is really just an EV with a different electrical energy source. So if FCs could be made real cheap, and if their efficiency was closer to that of a Li ion battery 95% and if hydrogen could be made without CO2 emissions and if it could be stored without leaking, and if it didn&#8217;t stink of oil behind it, it might just be a winner.</p>
<p>Now the folks researching batteries seem to have lots of connections to the electronics industry that gives us continuous improvements every few years. On the other hand the hydrogen guys are with Mr Oil. I know which guys I&#8217;d rather buy from.</p>
<p>All I can say to the folks in SF, I envy you, here in New England we have to wait another year after CA for the charging stations to roll out east while Nissan is looking at temp effects on the cells, oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: oscar merino</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/08/nissan-leaf-electric-car-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco-by-2010/#comment-13254</link>
		<dc:creator>oscar merino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100 mile range issue will be solved by partnerships that build out supporting charging grids in markets like California that have the demand as well as attractive political and business climates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100 mile range issue will be solved by partnerships that build out supporting charging grids in markets like California that have the demand as well as attractive political and business climates.</p>
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		<title>By: oscar merino</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/08/nissan-leaf-electric-car-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco-by-2010/#comment-36883</link>
		<dc:creator>oscar merino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100 mile range issue will be solved by partnerships that build out supporting charging grids in markets like California that have the demand as well as attractive political and business climates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100 mile range issue will be solved by partnerships that build out supporting charging grids in markets like California that have the demand as well as attractive political and business climates.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/08/nissan-leaf-electric-car-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco-by-2010/#comment-13253</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,



I do not believe there is a &quot;Hydrogen Car Revolution&quot;.

There is no hydrogen fueling infrastructure.

There are no affordable hydrogen powered vehicles.

Battery electric vehicles are approximately four times more efficient than hydrogen powered cars and battery electric vehicles can be charge anywhere there is electric power.

I have owned and driven a battery electric vehicle for over 2 years and 20,000 miles, 0 to 60 in 7 seconds and a range of 120 miles.

I have shown my vehicle to hundreds of people and the vast majority of those people tell me they are impressed with the technology and they would buy one if it were available at a dealership.

This is the &quot;Battery Electric Vehicle Revolution&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>I do not believe there is a &#8220;Hydrogen Car Revolution&#8221;.</p>
<p>There is no hydrogen fueling infrastructure.</p>
<p>There are no affordable hydrogen powered vehicles.</p>
<p>Battery electric vehicles are approximately four times more efficient than hydrogen powered cars and battery electric vehicles can be charge anywhere there is electric power.</p>
<p>I have owned and driven a battery electric vehicle for over 2 years and 20,000 miles, 0 to 60 in 7 seconds and a range of 120 miles.</p>
<p>I have shown my vehicle to hundreds of people and the vast majority of those people tell me they are impressed with the technology and they would buy one if it were available at a dealership.</p>
<p>This is the &#8220;Battery Electric Vehicle Revolution&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/08/nissan-leaf-electric-car-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco-by-2010/#comment-36879</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,



I do not believe there is a &quot;Hydrogen Car Revolution&quot;.

There is no hydrogen fueling infrastructure.

There are no affordable hydrogen powered vehicles.

Battery electric vehicles are approximately four times more efficient than hydrogen powered cars and battery electric vehicles can be charge anywhere there is electric power.

I have owned and driven a battery electric vehicle for over 2 years and 20,000 miles, 0 to 60 in 7 seconds and a range of 120 miles.

I have shown my vehicle to hundreds of people and the vast majority of those people tell me they are impressed with the technology and they would buy one if it were available at a dealership.

This is the &quot;Battery Electric Vehicle Revolution&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>I do not believe there is a &#8220;Hydrogen Car Revolution&#8221;.</p>
<p>There is no hydrogen fueling infrastructure.</p>
<p>There are no affordable hydrogen powered vehicles.</p>
<p>Battery electric vehicles are approximately four times more efficient than hydrogen powered cars and battery electric vehicles can be charge anywhere there is electric power.</p>
<p>I have owned and driven a battery electric vehicle for over 2 years and 20,000 miles, 0 to 60 in 7 seconds and a range of 120 miles.</p>
<p>I have shown my vehicle to hundreds of people and the vast majority of those people tell me they are impressed with the technology and they would buy one if it were available at a dealership.</p>
<p>This is the &#8220;Battery Electric Vehicle Revolution&#8221;.</p>
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