Comments on: And the Green Car of the Year is… a Diesel. Again! http://gas2.org/2009/12/03/and-the-green-car-of-the-year-is-a-diesel-again/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:57:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Russ Finley http://gas2.org/2009/12/03/and-the-green-car-of-the-year-is-a-diesel-again/#comment-13202 Russ Finley Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:58:26 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=4266#comment-13202 "Fun to drive" is not a precisely defined term. It is also purely subjective. Most of us don't harbor a fantasy of racing our cars along curving coastal roads with a voluptuous red head by our side.\ The Prius is fun to drive. I love it's quiet smooth acceleration, the way it turns off in stop and go traffic to use the battery to creep along, the engine braking mode on steep grades, and the precision of the cruise control. There has never been a car like it. It is the best car I've ever sat in when it comes to long distance travel. The Prius is actually better suited for highway driving. That is where it gets it's best mileage, typically around 50 mpg. It stores energy on the highway as well whenever the car decelerates. Battery reliability and toxicity were long ago proven not to be a concern. “Fun to drive” is not a precisely defined term. It is also purely subjective. Most of us don’t harbor a fantasy of racing our cars along curving coastal roads with a voluptuous red head by our side.\

The Prius is fun to drive. I love it’s quiet smooth acceleration, the way it turns off in stop and go traffic to use the battery to creep along, the engine braking mode on steep grades, and the precision of the cruise control.

There has never been a car like it. It is the best car I’ve ever sat in when it comes to long distance travel.

The Prius is actually better suited for highway driving. That is where it gets it’s best mileage, typically around 50 mpg. It stores energy on the highway as well whenever the car decelerates.

Battery reliability and toxicity were long ago proven not to be a concern.

]]> By: Russ Finley http://gas2.org/2009/12/03/and-the-green-car-of-the-year-is-a-diesel-again/#comment-36801 Russ Finley Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:58:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=4266#comment-36801 "Fun to drive" is not a precisely defined term. It is also purely subjective. Most of us don't harbor a fantasy of racing our cars along curving coastal roads with a voluptuous red head by our side. The Prius is fun to drive. I love it's quiet smooth acceleration, the way it turns off in stop and go traffic to use the battery to creep along, the engine braking mode on steep grades, and the precision of the cruise control. There has never been a car like it. It is the best car I've ever sat in when it comes to long distance travel. The Prius is actually better suited for highway driving. That is where it gets it's best mileage, typically around 50 mpg. It stores energy on the highway as well whenever the car decelerates. Battery reliability and toxicity were long ago proven not to be a concern. “Fun to drive” is not a precisely defined term. It is also purely subjective. Most of us don’t harbor a fantasy of racing our cars along curving coastal roads with a voluptuous red head by our side.

The Prius is fun to drive. I love it’s quiet smooth acceleration, the way it turns off in stop and go traffic to use the battery to creep along, the engine braking mode on steep grades, and the precision of the cruise control.

There has never been a car like it. It is the best car I’ve ever sat in when it comes to long distance travel.

The Prius is actually better suited for highway driving. That is where it gets it’s best mileage, typically around 50 mpg. It stores energy on the highway as well whenever the car decelerates.

Battery reliability and toxicity were long ago proven not to be a concern.

]]> By: Russ Finley http://gas2.org/2009/12/03/and-the-green-car-of-the-year-is-a-diesel-again/#comment-36802 Russ Finley Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:58:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=4266#comment-36802 "Fun to drive" is not a precisely defined term. It is also purely subjective. Most of us don't harbor a fantasy of racing our cars along curving coastal roads with a voluptuous red head by our side. The Prius is fun to drive. I love it's quiet smooth acceleration, the way it turns off in stop and go traffic to use the battery to creep along, the engine braking mode on steep grades, and the precision of the cruise control. There has never been a car like it. It is the best car I've ever sat in when it comes to long distance travel. The Prius is actually better suited for highway driving. That is where it gets it's best mileage, typically around 50 mpg. It stores energy on the highway as well whenever the car decelerates. Battery reliability and toxicity were long ago proven not to be a concern. “Fun to drive” is not a precisely defined term. It is also purely subjective. Most of us don’t harbor a fantasy of racing our cars along curving coastal roads with a voluptuous red head by our side.

The Prius is fun to drive. I love it’s quiet smooth acceleration, the way it turns off in stop and go traffic to use the battery to creep along, the engine braking mode on steep grades, and the precision of the cruise control.

There has never been a car like it. It is the best car I’ve ever sat in when it comes to long distance travel.

The Prius is actually better suited for highway driving. That is where it gets it’s best mileage, typically around 50 mpg. It stores energy on the highway as well whenever the car decelerates.

Battery reliability and toxicity were long ago proven not to be a concern.

]]> By: wolf2012 http://gas2.org/2009/12/03/and-the-green-car-of-the-year-is-a-diesel-again/#comment-13201 wolf2012 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:19:08 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=4266#comment-13201 htl - even if batteries are recycled (whatever that really means - and to what degree is it recycled), it's a cost factor for Toyota. Money, they need to save in other areas of the car. How else can Toyota give a 10 year warranty on the battery pack, if it is not already factored into the price of the car... Or do you think they just want to be nice and get you a freebie ... ;) This technology is promising, but we still need to solve many problems that arise around battery manufacturing. So the low-consumption Diesel technology is something that does not come with this (future-deferred) baggage, and that is also why a modern Diesel is the Green Car of the Year the second time in a row, besides other factors. htl – even if batteries are recycled (whatever that really means – and to what degree is it recycled), it’s a cost factor for Toyota. Money, they need to save in other areas of the car. How else can Toyota give a 10 year warranty on the battery pack, if it is not already factored into the price of the car… Or do you think they just want to be nice and get you a freebie … ;) This technology is promising, but we still need to solve many problems that arise around battery manufacturing. So the low-consumption Diesel technology is something that does not come with this (future-deferred) baggage, and that is also why a modern Diesel is the Green Car of the Year the second time in a row, besides other factors.

]]> By: wolf2012 http://gas2.org/2009/12/03/and-the-green-car-of-the-year-is-a-diesel-again/#comment-36800 wolf2012 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:19:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=4266#comment-36800 htl - even if batteries are recycled (whatever that really means - and to what degree is it recycled), it's a cost factor for Toyota. Money, they need to save in other areas of the car. How else can Toyota give a 10 year warranty on the battery pack, if it is not already factored into the price of the car... Or do you think they just want to be nice and get you a freebie ... ;) This technology is promising, but we still need to solve many problems that arise around battery manufacturing. So the low-consumption Diesel technology is something that does not come with this (future-deferred) baggage, and that is also why a modern Diesel is the Green Car of the Year the second time in a row, besides other factors. htl – even if batteries are recycled (whatever that really means – and to what degree is it recycled), it’s a cost factor for Toyota. Money, they need to save in other areas of the car. How else can Toyota give a 10 year warranty on the battery pack, if it is not already factored into the price of the car… Or do you think they just want to be nice and get you a freebie … ;) This technology is promising, but we still need to solve many problems that arise around battery manufacturing. So the low-consumption Diesel technology is something that does not come with this (future-deferred) baggage, and that is also why a modern Diesel is the Green Car of the Year the second time in a row, besides other factors.

]]> By: wolf2012 http://gas2.org/2009/12/03/and-the-green-car-of-the-year-is-a-diesel-again/#comment-13200 wolf2012 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:55:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=4266#comment-13200 Megan, your comment is symptomatic in America where marketing rules. So Toyota managed to convince you (I assume) that their hybrid is the greenest thing. Well, for starters, nickel mining is a nasty thing to the environment. Second, batteries are toxic waste that needs to be dealt with - and that's gonna cost money, yours or the taxpayers. Thirdly, the quality of the Audi and the Golf is a few notches above the others and retail value is part of the equation. So congratulations to Audi - it's the greener car, and it is not only in the city, but on the freeway as well (where hybrids are just as bad as regular gasoline powered cars). Did I mention the fun driving a sophisticated (in every way) car? Megan, your comment is symptomatic in America where marketing rules. So Toyota managed to convince you (I assume) that their hybrid is the greenest thing. Well, for starters, nickel mining is a nasty thing to the environment. Second, batteries are toxic waste that needs to be dealt with – and that’s gonna cost money, yours or the taxpayers. Thirdly, the quality of the Audi and the Golf is a few notches above the others and retail value is part of the equation. So congratulations to Audi – it’s the greener car, and it is not only in the city, but on the freeway as well (where hybrids are just as bad as regular gasoline powered cars). Did I mention the fun driving a sophisticated (in every way) car?

]]> By: wolf2012 http://gas2.org/2009/12/03/and-the-green-car-of-the-year-is-a-diesel-again/#comment-36798 wolf2012 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:55:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=4266#comment-36798 Megan, your comment is symptomatic in America where marketing rules. So Toyota managed to convince you (I assume) that their hybrid is the greenest thing. Well, for starters, nickel mining is a nasty thing to the environment. Second, batteries are toxic waste that needs to be dealt with - and that's gonna cost money, yours or the taxpayers. Thirdly, the quality of the Audi and the Golf is a few notches above the others and retail value is part of the equation. So congratulations to Audi - it's the greener car, and it is not only in the city, but on the freeway as well (where hybrids are just as bad as regular gasoline powered cars). Did I mention the fun driving a sophisticated (in every way) car? Megan, your comment is symptomatic in America where marketing rules. So Toyota managed to convince you (I assume) that their hybrid is the greenest thing. Well, for starters, nickel mining is a nasty thing to the environment. Second, batteries are toxic waste that needs to be dealt with – and that’s gonna cost money, yours or the taxpayers. Thirdly, the quality of the Audi and the Golf is a few notches above the others and retail value is part of the equation. So congratulations to Audi – it’s the greener car, and it is not only in the city, but on the freeway as well (where hybrids are just as bad as regular gasoline powered cars). Did I mention the fun driving a sophisticated (in every way) car?

]]> By: wolf2012 http://gas2.org/2009/12/03/and-the-green-car-of-the-year-is-a-diesel-again/#comment-36799 wolf2012 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:55:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=4266#comment-36799 Megan, your comment is symptomatic in America where marketing rules. So Toyota managed to convince you (I assume) that their hybrid is the greenest thing. Well, for starters, nickel mining is a nasty thing to the environment. Second, batteries are toxic waste that needs to be dealt with - and that's gonna cost money, yours or the taxpayers. Thirdly, the quality of the Audi and the Golf is a few notches above the others and retail value is part of the equation. So congratulations to Audi - it's the greener car, and it is not only in the city, but on the freeway as well (where hybrids are just as bad as regular gasoline powered cars). Did I mention the fun driving a sophisticated (in every way) car? Megan, your comment is symptomatic in America where marketing rules. So Toyota managed to convince you (I assume) that their hybrid is the greenest thing. Well, for starters, nickel mining is a nasty thing to the environment. Second, batteries are toxic waste that needs to be dealt with – and that’s gonna cost money, yours or the taxpayers. Thirdly, the quality of the Audi and the Golf is a few notches above the others and retail value is part of the equation. So congratulations to Audi – it’s the greener car, and it is not only in the city, but on the freeway as well (where hybrids are just as bad as regular gasoline powered cars). Did I mention the fun driving a sophisticated (in every way) car?

]]> By: htl http://gas2.org/2009/12/03/and-the-green-car-of-the-year-is-a-diesel-again/#comment-13199 htl Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:01:31 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=4266#comment-13199 40 city/52 isn't that green if you ask me. now >65 would be more like it. By the way, all prius battery's are recycled (unless you purposely throw them in a landfill) Too bad we don't have real diesel engines which is why i will keep my money in my wallet till we get some REAL efficient choices... too bad but my corolla will have to keep on chugging. 40 city/52 isn’t that green if you ask me. now >65 would be more like it.

By the way, all prius battery’s are recycled (unless you purposely throw them in a landfill)

Too bad we don’t have real diesel engines which is why i will keep my money in my wallet till we get some REAL efficient choices… too bad but my corolla will have to keep on chugging.

]]> By: htl http://gas2.org/2009/12/03/and-the-green-car-of-the-year-is-a-diesel-again/#comment-36796 htl Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:01:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=4266#comment-36796 40 city/52 isn't that green if you ask me. now >65 would be more like it. By the way, all prius battery's are recycled (unless you purposely throw them in a landfill) Too bad we don't have real diesel engines which is why i will keep my money in my wallet till we get some REAL efficient choices... too bad but my corolla will have to keep on chugging. 40 city/52 isn’t that green if you ask me. now >65 would be more like it.

By the way, all prius battery’s are recycled (unless you purposely throw them in a landfill)

Too bad we don’t have real diesel engines which is why i will keep my money in my wallet till we get some REAL efficient choices… too bad but my corolla will have to keep on chugging.

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