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	<title>Comments on: With New Battery, Nissan Plans to Double EV Range by 2015</title>
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		<title>By: no thanks</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/01/with-new-battery-nissan-plans-to-double-ev-range-by-2015/#comment-13003</link>
		<dc:creator>no thanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Editor...when has ANY for profit company ever given anyone anything for free?  Unless the lease agreement clearly states they will upgrade the battery pack at zero cost, plan on being fleeced when it happens.  Even if they let you swap out the pack at no expense, you can count on the dealer juicing you like there is no tomorrow.



Let the buyer beware...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editor&#8230;when has ANY for profit company ever given anyone anything for free?  Unless the lease agreement clearly states they will upgrade the battery pack at zero cost, plan on being fleeced when it happens.  Even if they let you swap out the pack at no expense, you can count on the dealer juicing you like there is no tomorrow.</p>
<p>Let the buyer beware&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: no thanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>no thanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Editor...when has ANY for profit company ever given anyone anything for free?  Unless the lease agreement clearly states they will upgrade the battery pack at zero cost, plan on being fleeced when it happens.  Even if they let you swap out the pack at no expense, you can count on the dealer juicing you like there is no tomorrow.



Let the buyer beware...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editor&#8230;when has ANY for profit company ever given anyone anything for free?  Unless the lease agreement clearly states they will upgrade the battery pack at zero cost, plan on being fleeced when it happens.  Even if they let you swap out the pack at no expense, you can count on the dealer juicing you like there is no tomorrow.</p>
<p>Let the buyer beware&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/01/with-new-battery-nissan-plans-to-double-ev-range-by-2015/#comment-13002</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Kraemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tesla is doing it at $100,000 (so far). Nissan is already aiming for a mass market car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tesla is doing it at $100,000 (so far). Nissan is already aiming for a mass market car.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/01/with-new-battery-nissan-plans-to-double-ev-range-by-2015/#comment-36755</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Kraemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tesla is doing it at $100,000 (so far). Nissan is already aiming for a mass market car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tesla is doing it at $100,000 (so far). Nissan is already aiming for a mass market car.</p>
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		<title>By: John_balls</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/01/with-new-battery-nissan-plans-to-double-ev-range-by-2015/#comment-13001</link>
		<dc:creator>John_balls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I will wait till 2015. If tesla is doing it today why can&#039;t they??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I will wait till 2015. If tesla is doing it today why can&#8217;t they??</p>
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		<title>By: John_balls</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/01/with-new-battery-nissan-plans-to-double-ev-range-by-2015/#comment-36754</link>
		<dc:creator>John_balls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I will wait till 2015. If tesla is doing it today why can&#039;t they??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I will wait till 2015. If tesla is doing it today why can&#8217;t they??</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/01/with-new-battery-nissan-plans-to-double-ev-range-by-2015/#comment-13000</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ed wrote: &quot;...you simply swap out the old one for the new one and you don&#039;t have to eat the cost—you keep paying the same lease price.&quot;



Have you ever leased a car? Were you ever able to &quot;just swap out&quot; for a new one and &quot;keep paying the same price&quot;? That is not how leases work. There are all sorts of little issues like early termination fees, residual value adjustments, excessive wear charges, etc. etc. Car companies like Nissan come from a proud tradition of ripping people off with leases.



I cannot imagine anyone will plunk down $25-$30k on a little electric hatchback and then be captive to Nissan for future spare parts and upgrades. It is like buying a cell phone with a 10 year service contract. Yikes!



I really like the Leaf but this battery leasing idea is just dumb. Sell the car. Warrant the car with a guaranteed buy-back on the battery in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ed wrote: &#8220;&#8230;you simply swap out the old one for the new one and you don&#8217;t have to eat the cost—you keep paying the same lease price.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you ever leased a car? Were you ever able to &#8220;just swap out&#8221; for a new one and &#8220;keep paying the same price&#8221;? That is not how leases work. There are all sorts of little issues like early termination fees, residual value adjustments, excessive wear charges, etc. etc. Car companies like Nissan come from a proud tradition of ripping people off with leases.</p>
<p>I cannot imagine anyone will plunk down $25-$30k on a little electric hatchback and then be captive to Nissan for future spare parts and upgrades. It is like buying a cell phone with a 10 year service contract. Yikes!</p>
<p>I really like the Leaf but this battery leasing idea is just dumb. Sell the car. Warrant the car with a guaranteed buy-back on the battery in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/01/with-new-battery-nissan-plans-to-double-ev-range-by-2015/#comment-36753</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ed wrote: &quot;...you simply swap out the old one for the new one and you don&#039;t have to eat the cost—you keep paying the same lease price.&quot;



Have you ever leased a car? Were you ever able to &quot;just swap out&quot; for a new one and &quot;keep paying the same price&quot;? That is not how leases work. There are all sorts of little issues like early termination fees, residual value adjustments, excessive wear charges, etc. etc. Car companies like Nissan come from a proud tradition of ripping people off with leases.



I cannot imagine anyone will plunk down $25-$30k on a little electric hatchback and then be captive to Nissan for future spare parts and upgrades. It is like buying a cell phone with a 10 year service contract. Yikes!



I really like the Leaf but this battery leasing idea is just dumb. Sell the car. Warrant the car with a guaranteed buy-back on the battery in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ed wrote: &#8220;&#8230;you simply swap out the old one for the new one and you don&#8217;t have to eat the cost—you keep paying the same lease price.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you ever leased a car? Were you ever able to &#8220;just swap out&#8221; for a new one and &#8220;keep paying the same price&#8221;? That is not how leases work. There are all sorts of little issues like early termination fees, residual value adjustments, excessive wear charges, etc. etc. Car companies like Nissan come from a proud tradition of ripping people off with leases.</p>
<p>I cannot imagine anyone will plunk down $25-$30k on a little electric hatchback and then be captive to Nissan for future spare parts and upgrades. It is like buying a cell phone with a 10 year service contract. Yikes!</p>
<p>I really like the Leaf but this battery leasing idea is just dumb. Sell the car. Warrant the car with a guaranteed buy-back on the battery in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos - Spain</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/01/with-new-battery-nissan-plans-to-double-ev-range-by-2015/#comment-12999</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos - Spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carbon buildup, the problem is not the discoveries if what of all of them gets massively distributed.



Yes, there is a lot of research, yes, more than other years, but the last years have been not empty of investigation and see, we are still with Ni-MH in AAA rechargables and ion-lithium in computers and cell-phones.



So, I hope to be wrong, but any technology needs some time to be tested and perhaps in 2015 we will still to wait some time to ultracapacitators and other technologies that multiply 10x ion-Lithium to be cost and safe effective and we can say: uf! thanks that they invented the NMC that doubles the ion-li and has helped the electric and hybrid car &quot;explosion&quot;, so, helping also to derive money to investigate Ultrcapacitators and the technology that should come after them. ;-)



But, yes, I can understand your impatience and your thoughts reading what we read here. I&#039;ve been new technologies journalist for some time, and i have to say, that too much of the &quot;discoveries&quot; are only marketing and never became true. See all the private space companies than ten years ago where going to let all us to reach the moon affordably (well, I need more than that) or the compressed air cars... all these guys were &quot;one year to&quot; complete their technology... but the years passed and we saw something very different in the real world. Sometimes for good, sometimes for bad.



So, believe in miracles (10x batteries), but don&#039;t underestimate medicines (2x batteries), ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbon buildup, the problem is not the discoveries if what of all of them gets massively distributed.</p>
<p>Yes, there is a lot of research, yes, more than other years, but the last years have been not empty of investigation and see, we are still with Ni-MH in AAA rechargables and ion-lithium in computers and cell-phones.</p>
<p>So, I hope to be wrong, but any technology needs some time to be tested and perhaps in 2015 we will still to wait some time to ultracapacitators and other technologies that multiply 10x ion-Lithium to be cost and safe effective and we can say: uf! thanks that they invented the NMC that doubles the ion-li and has helped the electric and hybrid car &#8220;explosion&#8221;, so, helping also to derive money to investigate Ultrcapacitators and the technology that should come after them. <img src='http://c1gas2org.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But, yes, I can understand your impatience and your thoughts reading what we read here. I&#8217;ve been new technologies journalist for some time, and i have to say, that too much of the &#8220;discoveries&#8221; are only marketing and never became true. See all the private space companies than ten years ago where going to let all us to reach the moon affordably (well, I need more than that) or the compressed air cars&#8230; all these guys were &#8220;one year to&#8221; complete their technology&#8230; but the years passed and we saw something very different in the real world. Sometimes for good, sometimes for bad.</p>
<p>So, believe in miracles (10x batteries), but don&#8217;t underestimate medicines (2x batteries), ok?</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos - Spain</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/12/01/with-new-battery-nissan-plans-to-double-ev-range-by-2015/#comment-36752</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos - Spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carbon buildup, the problem is not the discoveries if what of all of them gets massively distributed.



Yes, there is a lot of research, yes, more than other years, but the last years have been not empty of investigation and see, we are still with Ni-MH in AAA rechargables and ion-lithium in computers and cell-phones.



So, I hope to be wrong, but any technology needs some time to be tested and perhaps in 2015 we will still to wait some time to ultracapacitators and other technologies that multiply 10x ion-Lithium to be cost and safe effective and we can say: uf! thanks that they invented the NMC that doubles the ion-li and has helped the electric and hybrid car &quot;explosion&quot;, so, helping also to derive money to investigate Ultrcapacitators and the technology that should come after them. ;-)



But, yes, I can understand your impatience and your thoughts reading what we read here. I&#039;ve been new technologies journalist for some time, and i have to say, that too much of the &quot;discoveries&quot; are only marketing and never became true. See all the private space companies than ten years ago where going to let all us to reach the moon affordably (well, I need more than that) or the compressed air cars... all these guys were &quot;one year to&quot; complete their technology... but the years passed and we saw something very different in the real world. Sometimes for good, sometimes for bad.



So, believe in miracles (10x batteries), but don&#039;t underestimate medicines (2x batteries), ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbon buildup, the problem is not the discoveries if what of all of them gets massively distributed.</p>
<p>Yes, there is a lot of research, yes, more than other years, but the last years have been not empty of investigation and see, we are still with Ni-MH in AAA rechargables and ion-lithium in computers and cell-phones.</p>
<p>So, I hope to be wrong, but any technology needs some time to be tested and perhaps in 2015 we will still to wait some time to ultracapacitators and other technologies that multiply 10x ion-Lithium to be cost and safe effective and we can say: uf! thanks that they invented the NMC that doubles the ion-li and has helped the electric and hybrid car &#8220;explosion&#8221;, so, helping also to derive money to investigate Ultrcapacitators and the technology that should come after them. <img src='http://c1gas2org.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But, yes, I can understand your impatience and your thoughts reading what we read here. I&#8217;ve been new technologies journalist for some time, and i have to say, that too much of the &#8220;discoveries&#8221; are only marketing and never became true. See all the private space companies than ten years ago where going to let all us to reach the moon affordably (well, I need more than that) or the compressed air cars&#8230; all these guys were &#8220;one year to&#8221; complete their technology&#8230; but the years passed and we saw something very different in the real world. Sometimes for good, sometimes for bad.</p>
<p>So, believe in miracles (10x batteries), but don&#8217;t underestimate medicines (2x batteries), ok?</p>
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