Comments on: EV Corridor Links LA and San Fran, "Fast" Charging Still Relative http://gas2.org/2009/09/25/ev-corridor-links-la-and-san-fran-fast-charging-still-relative/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Sat, 26 May 2012 14:59:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jerry http://gas2.org/2009/09/25/ev-corridor-links-la-and-san-fran-fast-charging-still-relative/#comment-12487 Jerry Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:36:22 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3615#comment-12487 I think you also miss a point by comparing it to gas station. Gas station requires large storage tanks and pipes, as well as delivery trucks. While charging station rely on existing grid. So any restaurant or shopping mall can provide charging station in existing parking lot. several hours seems too long, less than 1 hour would be fine for those places. I think you also miss a point by comparing it to gas station. Gas station requires large storage tanks and pipes, as well as delivery trucks. While charging station rely on existing grid. So any restaurant or shopping mall can provide charging station in existing parking lot. several hours seems too long, less than 1 hour would be fine for those places.

]]> By: Jerry http://gas2.org/2009/09/25/ev-corridor-links-la-and-san-fran-fast-charging-still-relative/#comment-35768 Jerry Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:36:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3615#comment-35768 I think you also miss a point by comparing it to gas station. Gas station requires large storage tanks and pipes, as well as delivery trucks. While charging station rely on existing grid. So any restaurant or shopping mall can provide charging station in existing parking lot. several hours seems too long, less than 1 hour would be fine for those places. I think you also miss a point by comparing it to gas station. Gas station requires large storage tanks and pipes, as well as delivery trucks. While charging station rely on existing grid. So any restaurant or shopping mall can provide charging station in existing parking lot. several hours seems too long, less than 1 hour would be fine for those places.

]]> By: Neil Rideout http://gas2.org/2009/09/25/ev-corridor-links-la-and-san-fran-fast-charging-still-relative/#comment-12486 Neil Rideout Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:07:21 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3615#comment-12486 You need to see what is happening in the rest of the world. Nissan is one of the companies that is building infrastructure in India and China. First you buy the electric car but you lease the battery. The battery exchange stations, (this is the infrastructure being built) are off grid and powered by solar and or wind. You drive in, (like a car wash), and in less than 10 minutes your battery is exchanged with a freshly charged battery by the machine in the battery exchange station. BTW you can also plug in just and charge slowly if you like. The cars are nice 5 passenger sedans with decent range. The world is changing and those committed to doing things the old ways will be left behind. You need to see what is happening in the rest of the world. Nissan is one of the companies that is building infrastructure in India and China. First you buy the electric car but you lease the battery. The battery exchange stations, (this is the infrastructure being built) are off grid and powered by solar and or wind. You drive in, (like a car wash), and in less than 10 minutes your battery is exchanged with a freshly charged battery by the machine in the battery exchange station. BTW you can also plug in just and charge slowly if you like. The cars are nice 5 passenger sedans with decent range. The world is changing and those committed to doing things the old ways will be left behind.

]]> By: Neil Rideout http://gas2.org/2009/09/25/ev-corridor-links-la-and-san-fran-fast-charging-still-relative/#comment-35767 Neil Rideout Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:07:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3615#comment-35767 You need to see what is happening in the rest of the world. Nissan is one of the companies that is building infrastructure in India and China. First you buy the electric car but you lease the battery. The battery exchange stations, (this is the infrastructure being built) are off grid and powered by solar and or wind. You drive in, (like a car wash), and in less than 10 minutes your battery is exchanged with a freshly charged battery by the machine in the battery exchange station. BTW you can also plug in just and charge slowly if you like. The cars are nice 5 passenger sedans with decent range. The world is changing and those committed to doing things the old ways will be left behind. You need to see what is happening in the rest of the world. Nissan is one of the companies that is building infrastructure in India and China. First you buy the electric car but you lease the battery. The battery exchange stations, (this is the infrastructure being built) are off grid and powered by solar and or wind. You drive in, (like a car wash), and in less than 10 minutes your battery is exchanged with a freshly charged battery by the machine in the battery exchange station. BTW you can also plug in just and charge slowly if you like. The cars are nice 5 passenger sedans with decent range. The world is changing and those committed to doing things the old ways will be left behind.

]]> By: hat http://gas2.org/2009/09/25/ev-corridor-links-la-and-san-fran-fast-charging-still-relative/#comment-12485 hat Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:22:14 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3615#comment-12485 With due respect, I think you're missing the point. Mass-market acceptance of EVs is going to be difficult if there isn't at least the *possibility* of driving them over long distances (like LA->SF). The point of these recharging stations is to pull the rug out from under people who say "Oh, well EVs are fine if all you ever need to do is drive around town, but we need to drive up to the in-laws a few times each year." EV advocates can now point out that there are, in fact, charging stations all along the way. With due respect, I think you’re missing the point. Mass-market acceptance of EVs is going to be difficult if there isn’t at least the *possibility* of driving them over long distances (like LA->SF). The point of these recharging stations is to pull the rug out from under people who say “Oh, well EVs are fine if all you ever need to do is drive around town, but we need to drive up to the in-laws a few times each year.” EV advocates can now point out that there are, in fact, charging stations all along the way.

]]> By: hat http://gas2.org/2009/09/25/ev-corridor-links-la-and-san-fran-fast-charging-still-relative/#comment-35766 hat Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:22:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3615#comment-35766 With due respect, I think you're missing the point. Mass-market acceptance of EVs is going to be difficult if there isn't at least the *possibility* of driving them over long distances (like LA->SF). The point of these recharging stations is to pull the rug out from under people who say "Oh, well EVs are fine if all you ever need to do is drive around town, but we need to drive up to the in-laws a few times each year." EV advocates can now point out that there are, in fact, charging stations all along the way. With due respect, I think you’re missing the point. Mass-market acceptance of EVs is going to be difficult if there isn’t at least the *possibility* of driving them over long distances (like LA->SF). The point of these recharging stations is to pull the rug out from under people who say “Oh, well EVs are fine if all you ever need to do is drive around town, but we need to drive up to the in-laws a few times each year.” EV advocates can now point out that there are, in fact, charging stations all along the way.

]]> By: Christopher DeMorro http://gas2.org/2009/09/25/ev-corridor-links-la-and-san-fran-fast-charging-still-relative/#comment-12484 Christopher DeMorro Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:51:17 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3615#comment-12484 I have not heard of that, to be honest. 10-20 minutes is much more acceptable, though I think for it to be totally viable, it needs to take no longer than filling a 15-20 gallon gas tank...so what, 2-3 minutes? As I said...I'm not a patient person. If I had to wait 20 minutes for my car to be charged, I'd inevitably wind up in trouble... I have not heard of that, to be honest. 10-20 minutes is much more acceptable, though I think for it to be totally viable, it needs to take no longer than filling a 15-20 gallon gas tank…so what, 2-3 minutes?

As I said…I’m not a patient person. If I had to wait 20 minutes for my car to be charged, I’d inevitably wind up in trouble…

]]> By: Christopher DeMorro http://gas2.org/2009/09/25/ev-corridor-links-la-and-san-fran-fast-charging-still-relative/#comment-35765 Christopher DeMorro Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:51:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3615#comment-35765 I have not heard of that, to be honest. 10-20 minutes is much more acceptable, though I think for it to be totally viable, it needs to take no longer than filling a 15-20 gallon gas tank...so what, 2-3 minutes? As I said...I'm not a patient person. If I had to wait 20 minutes for my car to be charged, I'd inevitably wind up in trouble... I have not heard of that, to be honest. 10-20 minutes is much more acceptable, though I think for it to be totally viable, it needs to take no longer than filling a 15-20 gallon gas tank…so what, 2-3 minutes?

As I said…I’m not a patient person. If I had to wait 20 minutes for my car to be charged, I’d inevitably wind up in trouble…

]]> By: Dan http://gas2.org/2009/09/25/ev-corridor-links-la-and-san-fran-fast-charging-still-relative/#comment-12483 Dan Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:33:15 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3615#comment-12483 Have you not heard of Ecotality? They have a fast charger right now and are working with the DOE and the state of California to put these fast charging stations in San Diego. It would only take 10-20 minutes to charge your car. Slow charging (level2) will create the problems you mentioned. Fast charging (level3) will not. Have you not heard of Ecotality? They have a fast charger right now and are working with the DOE and the state of California to put these fast charging stations in San Diego. It would only take 10-20 minutes to charge your car. Slow charging (level2) will create the problems you mentioned. Fast charging (level3) will not.

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