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	<title>Comments on: The 21st Century Car Industry: Why Plug-in and Electric Car Conversions Could Fix it</title>
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	<description>What is the future of fuel?  What&#039;s new?  What&#039;s next?  Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction.</description>
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		<title>By: Colorado will offer $6,000 Tax Credit for Plug-in Hybrid Conversions : Gas 2.0</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/the-21st-century-car-industry-why-plug-in-hybrid-retrofits-could-fix-it/#comment-11750</link>
		<dc:creator>Colorado will offer $6,000 Tax Credit for Plug-in Hybrid Conversions : Gas 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] plug-in hybrid and electric car retrofits. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JCitzen</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/the-21st-century-car-industry-why-plug-in-hybrid-retrofits-could-fix-it/#comment-11749</link>
		<dc:creator>JCitzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The poster talking about relative efficency was right, but Joe and Jill six pack don&#039;t give a flying **** about that! They want CHEAP transportation! Getting OFF oil will eventually result in CHEAPER transportation. One way to satisfy ALL requirements:



1. cheaper

2. more efficient

3. national security



Is to convert to methanol fuel cells!! Methanol can be make of natural gas very economically, fuel cells are way more efficent than even coal fired electricity! It takes about $35,000 to convert a big vehicle to hybrid, where as 1200Kwh methanol generator can be had for way less than $6000.



You could do a cash for conversion program and the cost would be humongously less expensive on a large scale, than pure EV battery conversions, and you would still put out 35% of the CO2 that gas guzzlers do!(that is a LOT less)



Scientist are working now to use algae - specially DNA modified that can convert more waste material to methanol than we could convert natural gas!! Very efficient methods have been proven, and we could even use coal exhaust to do it. This at least is something that could start a science and infrastructure foundation, to renewable resources. Do not under-estimate the power of diatomic life; methanol could bury the oil companies in rapid succession, if the government would just support it.



I suspect they already know this and are trying to obfuscate the subject matter! Even Alan Greenspan was confused at why methanol wasn&#039;t chosen rather than ethanol, which is mostly food product(which has been torpedoed by the oil distribution industry as well!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The poster talking about relative efficency was right, but Joe and Jill six pack don&#8217;t give a flying **** about that! They want CHEAP transportation! Getting OFF oil will eventually result in CHEAPER transportation. One way to satisfy ALL requirements:</p>
<p>1. cheaper</p>
<p>2. more efficient</p>
<p>3. national security</p>
<p>Is to convert to methanol fuel cells!! Methanol can be make of natural gas very economically, fuel cells are way more efficent than even coal fired electricity! It takes about $35,000 to convert a big vehicle to hybrid, where as 1200Kwh methanol generator can be had for way less than $6000.</p>
<p>You could do a cash for conversion program and the cost would be humongously less expensive on a large scale, than pure EV battery conversions, and you would still put out 35% of the CO2 that gas guzzlers do!(that is a LOT less)</p>
<p>Scientist are working now to use algae &#8211; specially DNA modified that can convert more waste material to methanol than we could convert natural gas!! Very efficient methods have been proven, and we could even use coal exhaust to do it. This at least is something that could start a science and infrastructure foundation, to renewable resources. Do not under-estimate the power of diatomic life; methanol could bury the oil companies in rapid succession, if the government would just support it.</p>
<p>I suspect they already know this and are trying to obfuscate the subject matter! Even Alan Greenspan was confused at why methanol wasn&#8217;t chosen rather than ethanol, which is mostly food product(which has been torpedoed by the oil distribution industry as well!!)</p>
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		<title>By: JCitzen</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/the-21st-century-car-industry-why-plug-in-hybrid-retrofits-could-fix-it/#comment-35094</link>
		<dc:creator>JCitzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The poster talking about relative efficency was right, but Joe and Jill six pack don&#039;t give a flying **** about that! They want CHEAP transportation! Getting OFF oil will eventually result in CHEAPER transportation. One way to satisfy ALL requirements:



1. cheaper

2. more efficient

3. national security



Is to convert to methanol fuel cells!! Methanol can be make of natural gas very economically, fuel cells are way more efficent than even coal fired electricity! It takes about $35,000 to convert a big vehicle to hybrid, where as 1200Kwh methanol generator can be had for way less than $6000.



You could do a cash for conversion program and the cost would be humongously less expensive on a large scale, than pure EV battery conversions, and you would still put out 35% of the CO2 that gas guzzlers do!(that is a LOT less)



Scientist are working now to use algae - specially DNA modified that can convert more waste material to methanol than we could convert natural gas!! Very efficient methods have been proven, and we could even use coal exhaust to do it. This at least is something that could start a science and infrastructure foundation, to renewable resources. Do not under-estimate the power of diatomic life; methanol could bury the oil companies in rapid succession, if the government would just support it.



I suspect they already know this and are trying to obfuscate the subject matter! Even Alan Greenspan was confused at why methanol wasn&#039;t chosen rather than ethanol, which is mostly food product(which has been torpedoed by the oil distribution industry as well!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The poster talking about relative efficency was right, but Joe and Jill six pack don&#8217;t give a flying **** about that! They want CHEAP transportation! Getting OFF oil will eventually result in CHEAPER transportation. One way to satisfy ALL requirements:</p>
<p>1. cheaper</p>
<p>2. more efficient</p>
<p>3. national security</p>
<p>Is to convert to methanol fuel cells!! Methanol can be make of natural gas very economically, fuel cells are way more efficent than even coal fired electricity! It takes about $35,000 to convert a big vehicle to hybrid, where as 1200Kwh methanol generator can be had for way less than $6000.</p>
<p>You could do a cash for conversion program and the cost would be humongously less expensive on a large scale, than pure EV battery conversions, and you would still put out 35% of the CO2 that gas guzzlers do!(that is a LOT less)</p>
<p>Scientist are working now to use algae &#8211; specially DNA modified that can convert more waste material to methanol than we could convert natural gas!! Very efficient methods have been proven, and we could even use coal exhaust to do it. This at least is something that could start a science and infrastructure foundation, to renewable resources. Do not under-estimate the power of diatomic life; methanol could bury the oil companies in rapid succession, if the government would just support it.</p>
<p>I suspect they already know this and are trying to obfuscate the subject matter! Even Alan Greenspan was confused at why methanol wasn&#8217;t chosen rather than ethanol, which is mostly food product(which has been torpedoed by the oil distribution industry as well!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Lys</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/the-21st-century-car-industry-why-plug-in-hybrid-retrofits-could-fix-it/#comment-11748</link>
		<dc:creator>Lys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toyota Rav4 EV (Full EV, but a heavy SUV):



27 Kwh = 100 miles (city)



34 Kwh = 100 miles (highway)



And it&#039;s a 2002 year tecnology.

Sure they can do it better 7 years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toyota Rav4 EV (Full EV, but a heavy SUV):</p>
<p>27 Kwh = 100 miles (city)</p>
<p>34 Kwh = 100 miles (highway)</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s a 2002 year tecnology.</p>
<p>Sure they can do it better 7 years later.</p>
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		<title>By: Lys</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/the-21st-century-car-industry-why-plug-in-hybrid-retrofits-could-fix-it/#comment-35093</link>
		<dc:creator>Lys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toyota Rav4 EV (Full EV, but a heavy SUV):



27 Kwh = 100 miles (city)



34 Kwh = 100 miles (highway)



And it&#039;s a 2002 year tecnology.

Sure they can do it better 7 years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toyota Rav4 EV (Full EV, but a heavy SUV):</p>
<p>27 Kwh = 100 miles (city)</p>
<p>34 Kwh = 100 miles (highway)</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s a 2002 year tecnology.</p>
<p>Sure they can do it better 7 years later.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/the-21st-century-car-industry-why-plug-in-hybrid-retrofits-could-fix-it/#comment-11747</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question, does anyone know how much kWhr does it take a passenger car typically take to drive a mile (or 100 miles)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question, does anyone know how much kWhr does it take a passenger car typically take to drive a mile (or 100 miles)?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/the-21st-century-car-industry-why-plug-in-hybrid-retrofits-could-fix-it/#comment-35092</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question, does anyone know how much kWhr does it take a passenger car typically take to drive a mile (or 100 miles)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question, does anyone know how much kWhr does it take a passenger car typically take to drive a mile (or 100 miles)?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Rowling</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/the-21st-century-car-industry-why-plug-in-hybrid-retrofits-could-fix-it/#comment-11746</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Rowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are thousands of new 2008 small cars that didn&#039;t sell because of the economy at the Port of Tacoma and other ports too. Convert them to all electric.  It&#039;s fun to convert a spanky clean new car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are thousands of new 2008 small cars that didn&#8217;t sell because of the economy at the Port of Tacoma and other ports too. Convert them to all electric.  It&#8217;s fun to convert a spanky clean new car.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Rowling</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/the-21st-century-car-industry-why-plug-in-hybrid-retrofits-could-fix-it/#comment-35091</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Rowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are thousands of new 2008 small cars that didn&#039;t sell because of the economy at the Port of Tacoma and other ports too. Convert them to all electric.  It&#039;s fun to convert a spanky clean new car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are thousands of new 2008 small cars that didn&#8217;t sell because of the economy at the Port of Tacoma and other ports too. Convert them to all electric.  It&#8217;s fun to convert a spanky clean new car.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby B.</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/the-21st-century-car-industry-why-plug-in-hybrid-retrofits-could-fix-it/#comment-11745</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I almost forgot to mention that your shiny electric car will sure look nice sitting idle on the repo dealer&#039;s lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I almost forgot to mention that your shiny electric car will sure look nice sitting idle on the repo dealer&#8217;s lot.</p>
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