Comments on: Hybrid Vehicles Failing to Produce Environmental Benefits http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/hybrid-vehicles-failing-to-produce-environmental-benefits/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:57:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Aaron http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/hybrid-vehicles-failing-to-produce-environmental-benefits/#comment-11706 Aaron Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:06:52 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3214#comment-11706 I think the first sentence says it all, “If the intention of rebate programs is to replace gas guzzlers with hybrids, they are failing.” The benefit of rebate programs is to help get more efficient vehicles over the hump, or increase volumes and learning to get the cost down so in the future vehicles gain wide market shares without rebates. That is where the real benefits are. I think the first sentence says it all, “If the intention of rebate programs is to replace gas guzzlers with hybrids, they are failing.”

The benefit of rebate programs is to help get more efficient vehicles over the hump, or increase volumes and learning to get the cost down so in the future vehicles gain wide market shares without rebates. That is where the real benefits are.

]]> By: Aaron http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/hybrid-vehicles-failing-to-produce-environmental-benefits/#comment-35068 Aaron Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:06:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3214#comment-35068 I think the first sentence says it all, “If the intention of rebate programs is to replace gas guzzlers with hybrids, they are failing.” The benefit of rebate programs is to help get more efficient vehicles over the hump, or increase volumes and learning to get the cost down so in the future vehicles gain wide market shares without rebates. That is where the real benefits are. I think the first sentence says it all, “If the intention of rebate programs is to replace gas guzzlers with hybrids, they are failing.”

The benefit of rebate programs is to help get more efficient vehicles over the hump, or increase volumes and learning to get the cost down so in the future vehicles gain wide market shares without rebates. That is where the real benefits are.

]]> By: Aaron http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/hybrid-vehicles-failing-to-produce-environmental-benefits/#comment-35069 Aaron Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:06:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3214#comment-35069 I think the first sentence says it all, “If the intention of rebate programs is to replace gas guzzlers with hybrids, they are failing.” The benefit of rebate programs is to help get more efficient vehicles over the hump, or increase volumes and learning to get the cost down so in the future vehicles gain wide market shares without rebates. That is where the real benefits are. I think the first sentence says it all, “If the intention of rebate programs is to replace gas guzzlers with hybrids, they are failing.”

The benefit of rebate programs is to help get more efficient vehicles over the hump, or increase volumes and learning to get the cost down so in the future vehicles gain wide market shares without rebates. That is where the real benefits are.

]]> By: Richard http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/hybrid-vehicles-failing-to-produce-environmental-benefits/#comment-11705 Richard Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:45:14 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3214#comment-11705 People that buy SUV, buy them for a reason. They need the space or need the ground clearance or need the towing ability and or the safety that a larger vehicle provides. Once the tree hugger and the car companies figure that out and make an affordable Low Carbon SUV. People will buy it. AFS Trinity has Proven that it can be done. Remember the CUSTOMER is ALWAY RIGHT. If your customer wants a large SUV make it as Green as possible. Don't try to tell then or try shame them in to a car they don't want. THEY WON'T BUY. People that buy SUV, buy them for a reason. They need the space or need the ground clearance or need the towing ability and or the safety that a larger vehicle provides. Once the tree hugger and the car companies figure that out and make an affordable Low Carbon SUV. People will buy it. AFS Trinity has Proven that it can be done.

Remember the CUSTOMER is ALWAY RIGHT. If your customer wants a large SUV make it as Green as possible. Don’t try to tell then or try shame them in to a car they don’t want. THEY WON’T BUY.

]]> By: Richard http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/hybrid-vehicles-failing-to-produce-environmental-benefits/#comment-35066 Richard Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:45:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3214#comment-35066 People that buy SUV, buy them for a reason. They need the space or need the ground clearance or need the towing ability and or the safety that a larger vehicle provides. Once the tree hugger and the car companies figure that out and make an affordable Low Carbon SUV. People will buy it. AFS Trinity has Proven that it can be done. Remember the CUSTOMER is ALWAY RIGHT. If your customer wants a large SUV make it as Green as possible. Don't try to tell then or try shame them in to a car they don't want. THEY WON'T BUY. People that buy SUV, buy them for a reason. They need the space or need the ground clearance or need the towing ability and or the safety that a larger vehicle provides. Once the tree hugger and the car companies figure that out and make an affordable Low Carbon SUV. People will buy it. AFS Trinity has Proven that it can be done.

Remember the CUSTOMER is ALWAY RIGHT. If your customer wants a large SUV make it as Green as possible. Don’t try to tell then or try shame them in to a car they don’t want. THEY WON’T BUY.

]]> By: Richard http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/hybrid-vehicles-failing-to-produce-environmental-benefits/#comment-35067 Richard Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:45:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3214#comment-35067 People that buy SUV, buy them for a reason. They need the space or need the ground clearance or need the towing ability and or the safety that a larger vehicle provides. Once the tree hugger and the car companies figure that out and make an affordable Low Carbon SUV. People will buy it. AFS Trinity has Proven that it can be done. Remember the CUSTOMER is ALWAY RIGHT. If your customer wants a large SUV make it as Green as possible. Don't try to tell then or try shame them in to a car they don't want. THEY WON'T BUY. People that buy SUV, buy them for a reason. They need the space or need the ground clearance or need the towing ability and or the safety that a larger vehicle provides. Once the tree hugger and the car companies figure that out and make an affordable Low Carbon SUV. People will buy it. AFS Trinity has Proven that it can be done.

Remember the CUSTOMER is ALWAY RIGHT. If your customer wants a large SUV make it as Green as possible. Don’t try to tell then or try shame them in to a car they don’t want. THEY WON’T BUY.

]]> By: ChuckL http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/hybrid-vehicles-failing-to-produce-environmental-benefits/#comment-11704 ChuckL Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:40:58 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3214#comment-11704 The carbon offsets in the "Cap and Trade" legislation whatever its real mane, are nothing more than a way to continue releasing carbon into the environment while feeling good and increasing costs to the consumer to pay for the credits. Are you able to say, "GOVERNMENTAL SCAM". The only benefit from "Cap and Trade" is higher prices that allow the government fo collect higher taxes, and of course huge incomes for those who sell the credits. Can you say "WINDFALL PROFITS"? The carbon offsets in the “Cap and Trade” legislation whatever its real mane, are nothing more than a way to continue releasing carbon into the environment while feeling good and increasing costs to the consumer to pay for the credits. Are you able to say, “GOVERNMENTAL SCAM”.

The only benefit from “Cap and Trade” is higher prices that allow the government fo collect higher taxes, and of course huge incomes for those who sell the credits. Can you say “WINDFALL PROFITS”?

]]> By: ChuckL http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/hybrid-vehicles-failing-to-produce-environmental-benefits/#comment-35064 ChuckL Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:40:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3214#comment-35064 The carbon offsets in the "Cap and Trade" legislation whatever its real mane, are nothing more than a way to continue releasing carbon into the environment while feeling good and increasing costs to the consumer to pay for the credits. Are you able to say, "GOVERNMENTAL SCAM". The only benefit from "Cap and Trade" is higher prices that allow the government fo collect higher taxes, and of course huge incomes for those who sell the credits. Can you say "WINDFALL PROFITS"? The carbon offsets in the “Cap and Trade” legislation whatever its real mane, are nothing more than a way to continue releasing carbon into the environment while feeling good and increasing costs to the consumer to pay for the credits. Are you able to say, “GOVERNMENTAL SCAM”.

The only benefit from “Cap and Trade” is higher prices that allow the government fo collect higher taxes, and of course huge incomes for those who sell the credits. Can you say “WINDFALL PROFITS”?

]]> By: ChuckL http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/hybrid-vehicles-failing-to-produce-environmental-benefits/#comment-35065 ChuckL Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:40:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3214#comment-35065 The carbon offsets in the "Cap and Trade" legislation whatever its real mane, are nothing more than a way to continue releasing carbon into the environment while feeling good and increasing costs to the consumer to pay for the credits. Are you able to say, "GOVERNMENTAL SCAM". The only benefit from "Cap and Trade" is higher prices that allow the government fo collect higher taxes, and of course huge incomes for those who sell the credits. Can you say "WINDFALL PROFITS"? The carbon offsets in the “Cap and Trade” legislation whatever its real mane, are nothing more than a way to continue releasing carbon into the environment while feeling good and increasing costs to the consumer to pay for the credits. Are you able to say, “GOVERNMENTAL SCAM”.

The only benefit from “Cap and Trade” is higher prices that allow the government fo collect higher taxes, and of course huge incomes for those who sell the credits. Can you say “WINDFALL PROFITS”?

]]> By: ChuckL http://gas2.org/2009/08/10/hybrid-vehicles-failing-to-produce-environmental-benefits/#comment-11703 ChuckL Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:33:47 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=3214#comment-11703 Tim's comment above is definitely relevant. My daughter has a Prius and it is too small to hold her, her husband and their three children, all of whom are required by California law to be in car seats. On the other hand, my Quad-Cab Dakota pickup can hold all of them and me in reasonable comfort. Much better than the Prius, and it can carry a large, but light load in the covered bed at the same time. The short story is that for day trips to a family gathering, my pickup is a more efficient way to travel than the TWO Priuses that would be needed. Tim’s comment above is definitely relevant. My daughter has a Prius and it is too small to hold her, her husband and their three children, all of whom are required by California law to be in car seats.

On the other hand, my Quad-Cab Dakota pickup can hold all of them and me in reasonable comfort. Much better than the Prius, and it can carry a large, but light load in the covered bed at the same time. The short story is that for day trips to a family gathering, my pickup is a more efficient way to travel than the TWO Priuses that would be needed.

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