Comments on: Detroit Electric Signs Deal to Produce Electric Cars in China http://gas2.org/2009/06/19/detroit-electric-signs-deal-to-produce-electric-cars-in-china/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Sat, 26 May 2012 14:59:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: william http://gas2.org/2009/06/19/detroit-electric-signs-deal-to-produce-electric-cars-in-china/#comment-10118 william Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:20:32 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2684#comment-10118 Detroit Electric pretty much equals ZAP, who already makes what many believe to be the most shoddy EVs on the market in the US... Let the buyer beware! Detroit Electric pretty much equals ZAP, who already makes what many believe to be the most shoddy EVs on the market in the US…

Let the buyer beware!

]]> By: william http://gas2.org/2009/06/19/detroit-electric-signs-deal-to-produce-electric-cars-in-china/#comment-32806 william Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:20:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2684#comment-32806 Detroit Electric pretty much equals ZAP, who already makes what many believe to be the most shoddy EVs on the market in the US... Let the buyer beware! Detroit Electric pretty much equals ZAP, who already makes what many believe to be the most shoddy EVs on the market in the US…

Let the buyer beware!

]]> By: AK http://gas2.org/2009/06/19/detroit-electric-signs-deal-to-produce-electric-cars-in-china/#comment-10117 AK Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:01:15 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2684#comment-10117 Dongfeng is the same major Chinese automaker that is producing vehicles later this year that run on a mixture of 65 percent ethanol and 35 percent water. This is converted to hydrogen onboard the engine, using a simple reformer. What might come next from a joint venture between Detroit Electric and Dongfeng, is a range extender engine for the EV, powered by 100 percent domestic ethanol-water fuel. This would be a fast track to eliminating imported foreign oil. Dongfeng is the same major Chinese automaker that is producing vehicles later this year that run on a mixture of 65 percent ethanol and 35 percent water. This is converted to hydrogen onboard the engine, using a simple reformer. What might come next from a joint venture between Detroit Electric and Dongfeng, is a range extender engine for the EV, powered by 100 percent domestic ethanol-water fuel. This would be a fast track to eliminating imported foreign oil.

]]> By: AK http://gas2.org/2009/06/19/detroit-electric-signs-deal-to-produce-electric-cars-in-china/#comment-32805 AK Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:01:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2684#comment-32805 Dongfeng is the same major Chinese automaker that is producing vehicles later this year that run on a mixture of 65 percent ethanol and 35 percent water. This is converted to hydrogen onboard the engine, using a simple reformer. What might come next from a joint venture between Detroit Electric and Dongfeng, is a range extender engine for the EV, powered by 100 percent domestic ethanol-water fuel. This would be a fast track to eliminating imported foreign oil. Dongfeng is the same major Chinese automaker that is producing vehicles later this year that run on a mixture of 65 percent ethanol and 35 percent water. This is converted to hydrogen onboard the engine, using a simple reformer. What might come next from a joint venture between Detroit Electric and Dongfeng, is a range extender engine for the EV, powered by 100 percent domestic ethanol-water fuel. This would be a fast track to eliminating imported foreign oil.

]]> By: RS http://gas2.org/2009/06/19/detroit-electric-signs-deal-to-produce-electric-cars-in-china/#comment-10116 RS Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:44:30 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2684#comment-10116 They have patents on their new motor design . Sounds interesting the way the corp. describes it but: it uses permanent magnets . There are potential problems with those : 1) When overheated they stop working . 2) The raw materials are in short supply. 3) The raw materials are mostly sourced out of China which would amount to a near monopoly . So unless those issues have been addressed I'll pass . They have patents on their new motor design .

Sounds interesting the way the corp. describes it but:

it uses permanent magnets .

There are potential problems with those :

1) When overheated they stop working .

2) The raw materials are in short supply.

3) The raw materials are mostly sourced out of

China which would amount to a near monopoly .

So unless those issues have been addressed

I’ll pass .

]]> By: RS http://gas2.org/2009/06/19/detroit-electric-signs-deal-to-produce-electric-cars-in-china/#comment-32804 RS Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:44:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2684#comment-32804 They have patents on their new motor design . Sounds interesting the way the corp. describes it but: it uses permanent magnets . There are potential problems with those : 1) When overheated they stop working . 2) The raw materials are in short supply. 3) The raw materials are mostly sourced out of China which would amount to a near monopoly . So unless those issues have been addressed I'll pass . They have patents on their new motor design .

Sounds interesting the way the corp. describes it but:

it uses permanent magnets .

There are potential problems with those :

1) When overheated they stop working .

2) The raw materials are in short supply.

3) The raw materials are mostly sourced out of

China which would amount to a near monopoly .

So unless those issues have been addressed

I’ll pass .

]]> By: MB http://gas2.org/2009/06/19/detroit-electric-signs-deal-to-produce-electric-cars-in-china/#comment-10115 MB Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:36:07 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2684#comment-10115 I think the "P" in PEV stands for "plugin" electric vehicle. And that EV stands for a whole class of vehicles that solely use electricity to turn the wheels. ER-EV, PEV, NEV, BEV and then all those PHEVs that parallel hybrids that can drive electric slowly for short distances. I don't know an EV without a battery but it certainly is possible to use a reciprocating or turbine engine to power a generator and use it directly on the wheels as they do for trains. I think the “P” in PEV stands for “plugin” electric vehicle. And that EV stands for a whole class of vehicles that solely use electricity to turn the wheels.

ER-EV, PEV, NEV, BEV and then all those PHEVs that parallel hybrids that can drive electric slowly for short distances. I don’t know an EV without a battery but it certainly is possible to use a reciprocating or turbine engine to power a generator and use it directly on the wheels as they do for trains.

]]> By: MB http://gas2.org/2009/06/19/detroit-electric-signs-deal-to-produce-electric-cars-in-china/#comment-32803 MB Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:36:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2684#comment-32803 I think the "P" in PEV stands for "plugin" electric vehicle. And that EV stands for a whole class of vehicles that solely use electricity to turn the wheels. ER-EV, PEV, NEV, BEV and then all those PHEVs that parallel hybrids that can drive electric slowly for short distances. I don't know an EV without a battery but it certainly is possible to use a reciprocating or turbine engine to power a generator and use it directly on the wheels as they do for trains. I think the “P” in PEV stands for “plugin” electric vehicle. And that EV stands for a whole class of vehicles that solely use electricity to turn the wheels.

ER-EV, PEV, NEV, BEV and then all those PHEVs that parallel hybrids that can drive electric slowly for short distances. I don’t know an EV without a battery but it certainly is possible to use a reciprocating or turbine engine to power a generator and use it directly on the wheels as they do for trains.

]]> By: drivin98 http://gas2.org/2009/06/19/detroit-electric-signs-deal-to-produce-electric-cars-in-china/#comment-10114 drivin98 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:54:27 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2684#comment-10114 Is it really necessary to introduce yet another acronym (PEV) for electric vehicles? I think the bases are well covered with BEV (battery electric vehicle) and EV (electric vehicle). Sticking the word "pure" in front of "electric vehicle" really serves no point, aside from serving some marketers ego. Is it really necessary to introduce yet another acronym (PEV) for electric vehicles? I think the bases are well covered with BEV (battery electric vehicle) and EV (electric vehicle). Sticking the word “pure” in front of “electric vehicle” really serves no point, aside from serving some marketers ego.

]]> By: drivin98 http://gas2.org/2009/06/19/detroit-electric-signs-deal-to-produce-electric-cars-in-china/#comment-32802 drivin98 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:54:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2684#comment-32802 Is it really necessary to introduce yet another acronym (PEV) for electric vehicles? I think the bases are well covered with BEV (battery electric vehicle) and EV (electric vehicle). Sticking the word "pure" in front of "electric vehicle" really serves no point, aside from serving some marketers ego. Is it really necessary to introduce yet another acronym (PEV) for electric vehicles? I think the bases are well covered with BEV (battery electric vehicle) and EV (electric vehicle). Sticking the word “pure” in front of “electric vehicle” really serves no point, aside from serving some marketers ego.

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