Comments on: Shell Announces CE10 Cellulosic Ethanol Available NOW at Ottawa Station http://gas2.org/2009/06/10/shell-announces-ce10-cellulosic-ethanol-available-now-at-ottawa-station/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Sat, 26 May 2012 08:54:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: ExxonMobil Invests $600 million with Algae Company Synthetic Genomics : Gas 2.0 http://gas2.org/2009/06/10/shell-announces-ce10-cellulosic-ethanol-available-now-at-ottawa-station/#comment-9696 ExxonMobil Invests $600 million with Algae Company Synthetic Genomics : Gas 2.0 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:54:18 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2555#comment-9696 [...] the only one currently selling cellulosic ethanol to consumers is Shell. They just announced a pilot program in Canada with Iogen, to sell E10 made from [...] [...] the only one currently selling cellulosic ethanol to consumers is Shell. They just announced a pilot program in Canada with Iogen, to sell E10 made from [...]

]]> By: Clayton B. Cornell http://gas2.org/2009/06/10/shell-announces-ce10-cellulosic-ethanol-available-now-at-ottawa-station/#comment-9695 Clayton B. Cornell Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:32:41 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2555#comment-9695 @Tony: The Shell station is located at at 1548 Merivale Road, Ottawa. @Tony: The Shell station is located at at 1548 Merivale Road, Ottawa.

]]> By: Clayton B. Cornell http://gas2.org/2009/06/10/shell-announces-ce10-cellulosic-ethanol-available-now-at-ottawa-station/#comment-32673 Clayton B. Cornell Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:32:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2555#comment-32673 @Tony: The Shell station is located at at 1548 Merivale Road, Ottawa. @Tony: The Shell station is located at at 1548 Merivale Road, Ottawa.

]]> By: Tony Woodward http://gas2.org/2009/06/10/shell-announces-ce10-cellulosic-ethanol-available-now-at-ottawa-station/#comment-9694 Tony Woodward Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:48:46 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2555#comment-9694 I just saw that my post is listed at 3:08pm, and the following one at 3:12pm. But even now it is only 11:30am here in Ottawa. Where on earth are you located? Somewhere in mid-Atlantic? It's only 1pm even in Newfoundland for heaven's sake, and you can't get any further east than that. My calculations show that you are located half an hour to the east of Iceland where it is now 3:42pm instead of 3:30 because it has taken me ten minutes to write this. I just saw that my post is listed at 3:08pm, and the following one at 3:12pm. But even now it is only 11:30am here in Ottawa. Where on earth are you located? Somewhere in mid-Atlantic? It’s only 1pm even in Newfoundland for heaven’s sake, and you can’t get any further east than that. My calculations show that you are located half an hour to the east of Iceland where it is now 3:42pm instead of 3:30 because it has taken me ten minutes to write this.

]]> By: Tony Woodward http://gas2.org/2009/06/10/shell-announces-ce10-cellulosic-ethanol-available-now-at-ottawa-station/#comment-32672 Tony Woodward Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:48:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2555#comment-32672 I just saw that my post is listed at 3:08pm, and the following one at 3:12pm. But even now it is only 11:30am here in Ottawa. Where on earth are you located? Somewhere in mid-Atlantic? It's only 1pm even in Newfoundland for heaven's sake, and you can't get any further east than that. My calculations show that you are located half an hour to the east of Iceland where it is now 3:42pm instead of 3:30 because it has taken me ten minutes to write this. I just saw that my post is listed at 3:08pm, and the following one at 3:12pm. But even now it is only 11:30am here in Ottawa. Where on earth are you located? Somewhere in mid-Atlantic? It’s only 1pm even in Newfoundland for heaven’s sake, and you can’t get any further east than that. My calculations show that you are located half an hour to the east of Iceland where it is now 3:42pm instead of 3:30 because it has taken me ten minutes to write this.

]]> By: Tim Cleland http://gas2.org/2009/06/10/shell-announces-ce10-cellulosic-ethanol-available-now-at-ottawa-station/#comment-9693 Tim Cleland Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:12:29 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2555#comment-9693 solargroupies, But the CO2 put into the air during combustion is the same CO2 that was taken out of the air when the wheat straw was growing. The reason fossil fuels' CO2 is more dangerous (if you believe the hype) is because it was taken out of the air hundreds of millions of years ago and is now being added back into the air over a short period of ~200 years. solargroupies,

But the CO2 put into the air during combustion is the same CO2 that was taken out of the air when the wheat straw was growing.

The reason fossil fuels’ CO2 is more dangerous (if you believe the hype) is because it was taken out of the air hundreds of millions of years ago and is now being added back into the air over a short period of ~200 years.

]]> By: Tim Cleland http://gas2.org/2009/06/10/shell-announces-ce10-cellulosic-ethanol-available-now-at-ottawa-station/#comment-32671 Tim Cleland Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:12:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2555#comment-32671 solargroupies, But the CO2 put into the air during combustion is the same CO2 that was taken out of the air when the wheat straw was growing. The reason fossil fuels' CO2 is more dangerous (if you believe the hype) is because it was taken out of the air hundreds of millions of years ago and is now being added back into the air over a short period of ~200 years. solargroupies,

But the CO2 put into the air during combustion is the same CO2 that was taken out of the air when the wheat straw was growing.

The reason fossil fuels’ CO2 is more dangerous (if you believe the hype) is because it was taken out of the air hundreds of millions of years ago and is now being added back into the air over a short period of ~200 years.

]]> By: Tony Woodward http://gas2.org/2009/06/10/shell-announces-ce10-cellulosic-ethanol-available-now-at-ottawa-station/#comment-9692 Tony Woodward Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:08:09 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2555#comment-9692 This is a terrific idea, one I have been pushing for a couple of years ever since I first heard about it. To produce fuel ethanol there is no need at all to impact the food chain, which is the usual oil-company-sponsored argument in opposition to alternative fuels. In that case don't you think it would be a rather good idea to tell people in your article WHERE THE HELL THIS GAS STATION IS?!!!!! I live in Ottawa and I would drive out of my way to fill up there as long as it isn't at the opposite end of the city. Only for a month starting June 10? It will take me that long to find it if nobody will tell me! Then the experiment will be deemed not to be a success and it will be quietly dropped. I have seen this all before - an inobtrusive way of shooting a project in the foot before it has even started. This is a terrific idea, one I have been pushing for a couple of years ever since I first heard about it. To produce fuel ethanol there is no need at all to impact the food chain, which is the usual oil-company-sponsored argument in opposition to alternative fuels.

In that case don’t you think it would be a rather good idea to tell people in your article WHERE THE HELL THIS GAS STATION IS?!!!!! I live in Ottawa and I would drive out of my way to fill up there as long as it isn’t at the opposite end of the city.

Only for a month starting June 10? It will take me that long to find it if nobody will tell me! Then the experiment will be deemed not to be a success and it will be quietly dropped. I have seen this all before – an inobtrusive way of shooting a project in the foot before it has even started.

]]> By: Tony Woodward http://gas2.org/2009/06/10/shell-announces-ce10-cellulosic-ethanol-available-now-at-ottawa-station/#comment-32670 Tony Woodward Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:08:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2555#comment-32670 This is a terrific idea, one I have been pushing for a couple of years ever since I first heard about it. To produce fuel ethanol there is no need at all to impact the food chain, which is the usual oil-company-sponsored argument in opposition to alternative fuels. In that case don't you think it would be a rather good idea to tell people in your article WHERE THE HELL THIS GAS STATION IS?!!!!! I live in Ottawa and I would drive out of my way to fill up there as long as it isn't at the opposite end of the city. Only for a month starting June 10? It will take me that long to find it if nobody will tell me! Then the experiment will be deemed not to be a success and it will be quietly dropped. I have seen this all before - an inobtrusive way of shooting a project in the foot before it has even started. This is a terrific idea, one I have been pushing for a couple of years ever since I first heard about it. To produce fuel ethanol there is no need at all to impact the food chain, which is the usual oil-company-sponsored argument in opposition to alternative fuels.

In that case don’t you think it would be a rather good idea to tell people in your article WHERE THE HELL THIS GAS STATION IS?!!!!! I live in Ottawa and I would drive out of my way to fill up there as long as it isn’t at the opposite end of the city.

Only for a month starting June 10? It will take me that long to find it if nobody will tell me! Then the experiment will be deemed not to be a success and it will be quietly dropped. I have seen this all before – an inobtrusive way of shooting a project in the foot before it has even started.

]]> By: Clayton B. Cornell http://gas2.org/2009/06/10/shell-announces-ce10-cellulosic-ethanol-available-now-at-ottawa-station/#comment-9691 Clayton B. Cornell Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:21:54 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=2555#comment-9691 Right, uh, the point here is that cellulosic ethanol, depending on how it's produced and processed, could achieve a substantial reduction in greenhouse-gas emissions when substituted for gasoline. CO2 that is emitted by burning cellulosic ethanol is largely recycled by the next season's crop. Of course, any time you burn a hydrocarbon you get other emissions too, but overall these are less than petroleum-based fuels. Right, uh, the point here is that cellulosic ethanol, depending on how it’s produced and processed, could achieve a substantial reduction in greenhouse-gas emissions when substituted for gasoline.

CO2 that is emitted by burning cellulosic ethanol is largely recycled by the next season’s crop. Of course, any time you burn a hydrocarbon you get other emissions too, but overall these are less than petroleum-based fuels.

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