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		<title>By: MeMySelfandYou</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/05/11/biofuel-industry-%e2%80%93-no-money-no-respect/#comment-9551</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMySelfandYou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some warning signs and answers here



http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Archives2008/HeinbergFiftyMillion.html</description>
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		<title>By: MeMySelfandYou</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/05/11/biofuel-industry-%e2%80%93-no-money-no-respect/#comment-32280</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMySelfandYou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some warning signs and answers here



http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Archives2008/HeinbergFiftyMillion.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some warning signs and answers here</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/05/11/biofuel-industry-%e2%80%93-no-money-no-respect/#comment-9550</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to my last post.



What we are trying to do by adopting the bio methods whatever they may be, is simply converting the energy that the sun gives us every day into an alternative, if we needed to grow the raw materials then we would have to wait until the fuel types mature, the fossile fuels which we are using today is already converted and ready for immediate ues.



The growing time needed will not buy us enough time in which to keep everything running as of today, ask the farmer how long it was going to be before we can all drive our cars again and you will have one of your answers, but there&#039;s more.



If we waste the better part of our natural resorces trying to get a smaller percentage of our energy needs back, which is just like burning one fuel source for another like the hybrid vehicle does an answer is already on the horizon, gone !



Once our ability to lubricate the engine has gone, the system will grind to a half within 48 hours, high tollerance engineering cannot be lubed by vedge based lubricants, they cannot withstand the high tempratures involved, ask some engineers and you will have another of your answers, and there&#039;s more.



Less cam most definately be more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to my last post.</p>
<p>What we are trying to do by adopting the bio methods whatever they may be, is simply converting the energy that the sun gives us every day into an alternative, if we needed to grow the raw materials then we would have to wait until the fuel types mature, the fossile fuels which we are using today is already converted and ready for immediate ues.</p>
<p>The growing time needed will not buy us enough time in which to keep everything running as of today, ask the farmer how long it was going to be before we can all drive our cars again and you will have one of your answers, but there&#8217;s more.</p>
<p>If we waste the better part of our natural resorces trying to get a smaller percentage of our energy needs back, which is just like burning one fuel source for another like the hybrid vehicle does an answer is already on the horizon, gone !</p>
<p>Once our ability to lubricate the engine has gone, the system will grind to a half within 48 hours, high tollerance engineering cannot be lubed by vedge based lubricants, they cannot withstand the high tempratures involved, ask some engineers and you will have another of your answers, and there&#8217;s more.</p>
<p>Less cam most definately be more.</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/05/11/biofuel-industry-%e2%80%93-no-money-no-respect/#comment-32279</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to my last post.



What we are trying to do by adopting the bio methods whatever they may be, is simply converting the energy that the sun gives us every day into an alternative, if we needed to grow the raw materials then we would have to wait until the fuel types mature, the fossile fuels which we are using today is already converted and ready for immediate ues.



The growing time needed will not buy us enough time in which to keep everything running as of today, ask the farmer how long it was going to be before we can all drive our cars again and you will have one of your answers, but there&#039;s more.



If we waste the better part of our natural resorces trying to get a smaller percentage of our energy needs back, which is just like burning one fuel source for another like the hybrid vehicle does an answer is already on the horizon, gone !



Once our ability to lubricate the engine has gone, the system will grind to a half within 48 hours, high tollerance engineering cannot be lubed by vedge based lubricants, they cannot withstand the high tempratures involved, ask some engineers and you will have another of your answers, and there&#039;s more.



Less cam most definately be more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to my last post.</p>
<p>What we are trying to do by adopting the bio methods whatever they may be, is simply converting the energy that the sun gives us every day into an alternative, if we needed to grow the raw materials then we would have to wait until the fuel types mature, the fossile fuels which we are using today is already converted and ready for immediate ues.</p>
<p>The growing time needed will not buy us enough time in which to keep everything running as of today, ask the farmer how long it was going to be before we can all drive our cars again and you will have one of your answers, but there&#8217;s more.</p>
<p>If we waste the better part of our natural resorces trying to get a smaller percentage of our energy needs back, which is just like burning one fuel source for another like the hybrid vehicle does an answer is already on the horizon, gone !</p>
<p>Once our ability to lubricate the engine has gone, the system will grind to a half within 48 hours, high tollerance engineering cannot be lubed by vedge based lubricants, they cannot withstand the high tempratures involved, ask some engineers and you will have another of your answers, and there&#8217;s more.</p>
<p>Less cam most definately be more.</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/05/11/biofuel-industry-%e2%80%93-no-money-no-respect/#comment-9549</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orng Crush said on May 12th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

“The grain required to fill an SUV’s 25-gallon tank with ethanol just once will feed one person for a whole year.”



Absolutely true sir, but who is going to nature, collect, convert and supply the labour in order of getting the end products into the Gas Tank, the math doesn&#039;t take much working out, I go on to say,



Civilisation is three meals away or 3 miles away, if there was no oil left and you used the land to grow fuel to run your car, you are going to die off rather quickly , its as simple as that.



Food is our life blood, and one that controls every living creature on the planet, it gives us the ability to fight wars for the oil and to reproduce without it our numbers will decrease, without the oil our food will decrease, and so on.



On the Algae fuel front, this is never going to come of anything and should be stopped right now, if we are to get 140 billion barrels a day which is our world daily supply, can you imagine an oil slick that big, and not forgetting that the amount of raw material would need to be many times larger in order of fermentation losses, it will never work and will use what oil we have left trying to make it so, its like peeing in the pacific and then expecting to see a rise in sea levels, do your math please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orng Crush said on May 12th, 2009 at 10:18 pm</p>
<p>“The grain required to fill an SUV’s 25-gallon tank with ethanol just once will feed one person for a whole year.”</p>
<p>Absolutely true sir, but who is going to nature, collect, convert and supply the labour in order of getting the end products into the Gas Tank, the math doesn&#8217;t take much working out, I go on to say,</p>
<p>Civilisation is three meals away or 3 miles away, if there was no oil left and you used the land to grow fuel to run your car, you are going to die off rather quickly , its as simple as that.</p>
<p>Food is our life blood, and one that controls every living creature on the planet, it gives us the ability to fight wars for the oil and to reproduce without it our numbers will decrease, without the oil our food will decrease, and so on.</p>
<p>On the Algae fuel front, this is never going to come of anything and should be stopped right now, if we are to get 140 billion barrels a day which is our world daily supply, can you imagine an oil slick that big, and not forgetting that the amount of raw material would need to be many times larger in order of fermentation losses, it will never work and will use what oil we have left trying to make it so, its like peeing in the pacific and then expecting to see a rise in sea levels, do your math please.</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/05/11/biofuel-industry-%e2%80%93-no-money-no-respect/#comment-32278</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orng Crush said on May 12th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

“The grain required to fill an SUV’s 25-gallon tank with ethanol just once will feed one person for a whole year.”



Absolutely true sir, but who is going to nature, collect, convert and supply the labour in order of getting the end products into the Gas Tank, the math doesn&#039;t take much working out, I go on to say,



Civilisation is three meals away or 3 miles away, if there was no oil left and you used the land to grow fuel to run your car, you are going to die off rather quickly , its as simple as that.



Food is our life blood, and one that controls every living creature on the planet, it gives us the ability to fight wars for the oil and to reproduce without it our numbers will decrease, without the oil our food will decrease, and so on.



On the Algae fuel front, this is never going to come of anything and should be stopped right now, if we are to get 140 billion barrels a day which is our world daily supply, can you imagine an oil slick that big, and not forgetting that the amount of raw material would need to be many times larger in order of fermentation losses, it will never work and will use what oil we have left trying to make it so, its like peeing in the pacific and then expecting to see a rise in sea levels, do your math please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orng Crush said on May 12th, 2009 at 10:18 pm</p>
<p>“The grain required to fill an SUV’s 25-gallon tank with ethanol just once will feed one person for a whole year.”</p>
<p>Absolutely true sir, but who is going to nature, collect, convert and supply the labour in order of getting the end products into the Gas Tank, the math doesn&#8217;t take much working out, I go on to say,</p>
<p>Civilisation is three meals away or 3 miles away, if there was no oil left and you used the land to grow fuel to run your car, you are going to die off rather quickly , its as simple as that.</p>
<p>Food is our life blood, and one that controls every living creature on the planet, it gives us the ability to fight wars for the oil and to reproduce without it our numbers will decrease, without the oil our food will decrease, and so on.</p>
<p>On the Algae fuel front, this is never going to come of anything and should be stopped right now, if we are to get 140 billion barrels a day which is our world daily supply, can you imagine an oil slick that big, and not forgetting that the amount of raw material would need to be many times larger in order of fermentation losses, it will never work and will use what oil we have left trying to make it so, its like peeing in the pacific and then expecting to see a rise in sea levels, do your math please.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Berggren</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/05/11/biofuel-industry-%e2%80%93-no-money-no-respect/#comment-9548</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Berggren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 00:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biofuels make 2 orders of magnitude less than what pv can make per acre.  Thus all biofuel programs should be abandoned and electric cars mandated.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Berggren</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/05/11/biofuel-industry-%e2%80%93-no-money-no-respect/#comment-32277</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Berggren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biofuels make 2 orders of magnitude less than what pv can make per acre.  Thus all biofuel programs should be abandoned and electric cars mandated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biofuels make 2 orders of magnitude less than what pv can make per acre.  Thus all biofuel programs should be abandoned and electric cars mandated.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Finley</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/05/11/biofuel-industry-%e2%80%93-no-money-no-respect/#comment-9547</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Finley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 02:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The corn ethanol lobby will fight cellulosic:



http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/congress-kills-biofuel-project.html



Algae biodiesel is not close:



http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/greenfuel-bites-dust.html



The food issue does not have much to do with obese Americans. It has to do with the hundreds of millions of malnourished whose lives depend on the price of that bushel of corn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The corn ethanol lobby will fight cellulosic:</p>
<p><a href="http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/congress-kills-biofuel-project.html" rel="nofollow">http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/congress-kills-biofuel-project.html</a></p>
<p>Algae biodiesel is not close:</p>
<p><a href="http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/greenfuel-bites-dust.html" rel="nofollow">http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/greenfuel-bites-dust.html</a></p>
<p>The food issue does not have much to do with obese Americans. It has to do with the hundreds of millions of malnourished whose lives depend on the price of that bushel of corn.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Finley</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/05/11/biofuel-industry-%e2%80%93-no-money-no-respect/#comment-32276</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Finley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The corn ethanol lobby will fight cellulosic:



http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/congress-kills-biofuel-project.html



Algae biodiesel is not close:



http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/greenfuel-bites-dust.html



The food issue does not have much to do with obese Americans. It has to do with the hundreds of millions of malnourished whose lives depend on the price of that bushel of corn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The corn ethanol lobby will fight cellulosic:</p>
<p><a href="http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/congress-kills-biofuel-project.html" rel="nofollow">http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/congress-kills-biofuel-project.html</a></p>
<p>Algae biodiesel is not close:</p>
<p><a href="http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/greenfuel-bites-dust.html" rel="nofollow">http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/05/greenfuel-bites-dust.html</a></p>
<p>The food issue does not have much to do with obese Americans. It has to do with the hundreds of millions of malnourished whose lives depend on the price of that bushel of corn.</p>
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