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Published on April 27th, 2009 | by Nick Chambers

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Norway May Ban Gas Cars After 2015

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Norwegian Finance Minister, Kristin Halvorsen, and her Socialist Left Party have put forth a plan that would disallow the sale of new cars that run solely on gasoline after 2015.

Under the plan new cars such as hybrids, that run partially on gas, would still be allowed to be sold in the country, but any cars that only use gas as their power source would be illegal. Cars already on the road would be unaffected.

“The financial crisis also means that a lot of those car producers that now have big problems … know that they have to develop their technology because we also have to solve the climate crisis when this financial crisis is over,” Halvorsen was quoted as telling Reuters.

While the intention may be good, the practicality of the proposal is insanely questionable — to say the least.

So don’t worry, even though the issue may be used by some of the more reactive arms of the essentially useless mainstream media as further proof that socialism is bad, the real story is that everybody else in Norway thinks the proposal is as crazy as most of you likely do.

According to reports, the plan has no legs due to heavy opposition by Norway’s other two ruling parties and its Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg.

Although it may seem *slightly* off kilter for the Finance Minister of an entire country to suggest that gas cars be banned, Halvorsen says that her party’s proposal has been largely misunderstood and that the plan wouldn’t cause undue harm to an already devastated economy.

“We know that the world will be dependent on oil and gas for many decades ahead but we have to introduce new technologies and this is a proposal to support that,” she said. “A lot of people thought that this proposal also would go after the cars we already have. That is not the case, it’s the new cars that are bought after 2015.”

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    • Captain Morgan

      The title of this post is a little deceptive, don’t you think? Especially considering that there’s virtually no chance whatsoever of this proposal being adopted? Perhaps a better title would have been…

      “Socialist, left-wing nut of a Norwegian finance minster proposes to further suppress freedom of choice and the free-market all in the name of ‘environmental protection’. Coming soon to a legislature near you!”

    • Captain Morgan

      The title of this post is a little deceptive, don’t you think? Especially considering that there’s virtually no chance whatsoever of this proposal being adopted? Perhaps a better title would have been…

      “Socialist, left-wing nut of a Norwegian finance minster proposes to further suppress freedom of choice and the free-market all in the name of ‘environmental protection’. Coming soon to a legislature near you!”

    • Nick Chambers

      Captain,

      That’s a little long, don’t you think?

      Also, read paragraph 5. Perhaps you like reinforcing stereotypes? Most of us realize this plan is not feasible, but the reasoned interpretation is not that the minister is a freedom-hating environmentalist nutjob as people of your ilk so often like to berate.

    • Chris K

      Nick, this is awesome.

      I’m proud of Norway and most of Europe for taking appropriate measures to restrain the auto. We could learn a lot from them.

    • Chris K

      Nick, this is awesome.

      I’m proud of Norway and most of Europe for taking appropriate measures to restrain the auto. We could learn a lot from them.

    • Jeremy

      Nick and Cap:

      You both live in the bubble of the US I’m almost certain. I used to live there and am a US citizen but am so glad to not have to have my vision limited by the constant bombardment of Fox and the “liberal” media peers of Fox that would make this proposal seem so unrealistic. Soon your perspective will be broadened but you will be the last to the table as there are many places where people can see whats coming and they are adapting to it so they can flourish in the green future. It’s coming whether you like it or not because the earth will impose it even if the US doesn’t fully know it yet.

    • Jeremy

      Nick and Cap:

      You both live in the bubble of the US I’m almost certain. I used to live there and am a US citizen but am so glad to not have to have my vision limited by the constant bombardment of Fox and the “liberal” media peers of Fox that would make this proposal seem so unrealistic. Soon your perspective will be broadened but you will be the last to the table as there are many places where people can see whats coming and they are adapting to it so they can flourish in the green future. It’s coming whether you like it or not because the earth will impose it even if the US doesn’t fully know it yet.

    • Jeremy

      Nick and Cap:

      You both live in the bubble of the US I’m almost certain. I used to live there and am a US citizen but am so glad to not have to have my vision limited by the constant bombardment of Fox and the “liberal” media peers of Fox that would make this proposal seem so unrealistic. Soon your perspective will be broadened but you will be the last to the table as there are many places where people can see whats coming and they are adapting to it so they can flourish in the green future. It’s coming whether you like it or not because the earth will impose it even if the US doesn’t fully know it yet.

    • Nick Chambers

      Jeremy,

      You misunderstand completely. If you spend any time whatsoever reading through my posts on this site you’ll find that I’m about as gung ho EV as anybody you’ll meet. My comment has nothing to do with the feasibility of alternate propulsion vehicles, and everything to do with having an orderly transition away from gas cars.

      Also, your time outside the US may have left you with a skewed vision of this country as everywhere I go and everybody I talk to now is already on board the green train.

    • http://chp.se/video Arild Orholm

      Well, as a Norwegian living in the US (currently San Fran), I guess I have a different view of this.

      Halvorsens Party, placed way out left on most matters, have a small following in Norway, and are basically known for their somewhat crazy ideas and hits at the ruling parties. Now, however, they are running the game in a minority government of 3 parties, and has had to adopt a lot. And even on most matters they are being overruled by the leading of these three parties, The Workers Party led by Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg. Norways biggest Party, thought by many to be named ironically the ‘Progress Party’, are way out on the right side, oppose anything Halvorsens Party come up with by principle, expect them to label this as utter nonsense any time soon.

      But think of it – The Idea of transition to more Green Friendly transport has to start somewhere, right? Obviously, this is not the way to go, but the debate has started.

      As an European, and open to everyone, I see many Americans as pretty self centered and less ‘globally intellectual’ than many other cultures. I hang around about 50/50 Americans and others. However, the others are all people who has left their country, I am sure there are lots of less enlightened people back where they came from too. Most Americans in my experience cannot even place Norway on the map…

      I am totally politically unattached and uninterested and has not even voted for our last few elections.

    • http://chp.se/video Arild Orholm

      Well, as a Norwegian living in the US (currently San Fran), I guess I have a different view of this.

      Halvorsens Party, placed way out left on most matters, have a small following in Norway, and are basically known for their somewhat crazy ideas and hits at the ruling parties. Now, however, they are running the game in a minority government of 3 parties, and has had to adopt a lot. And even on most matters they are being overruled by the leading of these three parties, The Workers Party led by Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg. Norways biggest Party, thought by many to be named ironically the ‘Progress Party’, are way out on the right side, oppose anything Halvorsens Party come up with by principle, expect them to label this as utter nonsense any time soon.

      But think of it – The Idea of transition to more Green Friendly transport has to start somewhere, right? Obviously, this is not the way to go, but the debate has started.

      As an European, and open to everyone, I see many Americans as pretty self centered and less ‘globally intellectual’ than many other cultures. I hang around about 50/50 Americans and others. However, the others are all people who has left their country, I am sure there are lots of less enlightened people back where they came from too. Most Americans in my experience cannot even place Norway on the map…

      I am totally politically unattached and uninterested and has not even voted for our last few elections.

    • http://chp.se/video Arild Orholm

      Well, as a Norwegian living in the US (currently San Fran), I guess I have a different view of this.

      Halvorsens Party, placed way out left on most matters, have a small following in Norway, and are basically known for their somewhat crazy ideas and hits at the ruling parties. Now, however, they are running the game in a minority government of 3 parties, and has had to adopt a lot. And even on most matters they are being overruled by the leading of these three parties, The Workers Party led by Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg. Norways biggest Party, thought by many to be named ironically the ‘Progress Party’, are way out on the right side, oppose anything Halvorsens Party come up with by principle, expect them to label this as utter nonsense any time soon.

      But think of it – The Idea of transition to more Green Friendly transport has to start somewhere, right? Obviously, this is not the way to go, but the debate has started.

      As an European, and open to everyone, I see many Americans as pretty self centered and less ‘globally intellectual’ than many other cultures. I hang around about 50/50 Americans and others. However, the others are all people who has left their country, I am sure there are lots of less enlightened people back where they came from too. Most Americans in my experience cannot even place Norway on the map…

      I am totally politically unattached and uninterested and has not even voted for our last few elections.

    • http://www.loudmurmurs.com David

      Nick, as another US expat, I couldn’t agree with you more (Norway was on our short list, btw).

      Even here in Canada, another oil producer, there is finally a realization that the days of the internal combustion engine are waning. We need to get ahead of the curve. Unfortunately, the distances in our vast country (bigger even than the US) and high energy needs during the winter make this a tougher hill to climb than Norway.

      Still, I’m glad to left the purposely narrow-minded and ill-informed US. Maybe Obama can turn things around for them, but I have no plans to return to the land of the fat, loud and ignorant.

    • http://hdante.blogspot.com/2009/04/clang-compiler-quickstart.html Henrique

      Brazil has banned pure gasoline sales for end consumers in 1976. Since 1993, a 20% ethanol content in the mix is required. See:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil

    • http://hdante.blogspot.com/2009/04/clang-compiler-quickstart.html Henrique

      Brazil has banned pure gasoline sales for end consumers in 1976. Since 1993, a 20% ethanol content in the mix is required. See:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil

    • http://www.loudmurmurs.com David

      Nick, as another US expat, I couldn’t agree with you more (Norway was on our short list, btw).

      Even here in Canada, another oil producer, there is finally a realization that the days of the internal combustion engine are waning. We need to get ahead of the curve. Unfortunately, the distances in our vast country (bigger even than the US) and high energy needs during the winter make this a tougher hill to climb than Norway.

      Still, I’m glad to left the purposely narrow-minded and ill-informed US. Maybe Obama can turn things around for them, but I have no plans to return to the land of the fat, loud and ignorant.

    • http://hdante.blogspot.com/2009/04/clang-compiler-quickstart.html Henrique

      Brazil has banned pure gasoline sales for end consumers in 1976. Since 1993, a 20% ethanol content in the mix is required. See:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil

    • Rosdi

      2015 is 16 years away! A LOT can happen if there is a will to do it. I dont see where the ‘insanity’ here? Ok if banning gasoline car seems extreme to some of you what about imposing a hefty tax instead?

    • Rosdi

      2015 is 16 years away! A LOT can happen if there is a will to do it. I dont see where the ‘insanity’ here? Ok if banning gasoline car seems extreme to some of you what about imposing a hefty tax instead?

    • Rosdi

      2015 is 16 years away! A LOT can happen if there is a will to do it. I dont see where the ‘insanity’ here? Ok if banning gasoline car seems extreme to some of you what about imposing a hefty tax instead?

    • Ben

      As a US citizen (still currently living in the states) I applaud this concept even as I suspect it is doomed to failure. It the very least it starts a dialog that is long overdue.

      As a US citizen, however, I am also saddened by the generalized attacks on my country – even as I understand where they come from. This is a very large and very diverse country. While we have a deserved reputation of being politically and socially backwards (especially over the past 8 years), at the same time we also have a very complex political and social landscape (with a population of over 300 million). I understand (and share) much of the anger with this country, but I think it has become a cheap fashion statement to propagate blanket stereotypes of the entire citizenry.

      This country has had a history of environmental leadership in the past (the banning of lead, and leaded gasoline, the introduction of catalytic converters, the clean air act, the clean water act, the sierra club, the nature conservancy). I am hoping that we will return to that role in the near future. Here in California, we have an even stronger sense of environmental initiatives. In fact, we tried to mandate 10% of all new cars be emissions free by 2003 (or 1.7 Million cars) – a laudable legislative goal that, alas, eventually failed much like Norway’s current experiment is likely to fail. This isn’t to say that we are even close to doing what we should or could, but it does represent actions that are inconsistent with the single seething mass of mindless muscle and testosterone that we are routinely made out to be.

      Ok. End of rant…

      Go Norway! :)

    • Ben

      As a US citizen (still currently living in the states) I applaud this concept even as I suspect it is doomed to failure. It the very least it starts a dialog that is long overdue.

      As a US citizen, however, I am also saddened by the generalized attacks on my country – even as I understand where they come from. This is a very large and very diverse country. While we have a deserved reputation of being politically and socially backwards (especially over the past 8 years), at the same time we also have a very complex political and social landscape (with a population of over 300 million). I understand (and share) much of the anger with this country, but I think it has become a cheap fashion statement to propagate blanket stereotypes of the entire citizenry.

      This country has had a history of environmental leadership in the past (the banning of lead, and leaded gasoline, the introduction of catalytic converters, the clean air act, the clean water act, the sierra club, the nature conservancy). I am hoping that we will return to that role in the near future. Here in California, we have an even stronger sense of environmental initiatives. In fact, we tried to mandate 10% of all new cars be emissions free by 2003 (or 1.7 Million cars) – a laudable legislative goal that, alas, eventually failed much like Norway’s current experiment is likely to fail. This isn’t to say that we are even close to doing what we should or could, but it does represent actions that are inconsistent with the single seething mass of mindless muscle and testosterone that we are routinely made out to be.

      Ok. End of rant…

      Go Norway! :)

    • Axel

      It’s easy to judge this proposal down at first, but compare it to lets say the “tobacco law” thats been initiated in many countries by now. 10 years before the law was introduced, the idea of not being able to smoke in bars and cafes would probably be called impossible and predicted a failure. A little out of context you may say, but I think its a fair comperison.

    • Axel

      It’s easy to judge this proposal down at first, but compare it to lets say the “tobacco law” thats been initiated in many countries by now. 10 years before the law was introduced, the idea of not being able to smoke in bars and cafes would probably be called impossible and predicted a failure. A little out of context you may say, but I think its a fair comperison.

    • Axel

      It’s easy to judge this proposal down at first, but compare it to lets say the “tobacco law” thats been initiated in many countries by now. 10 years before the law was introduced, the idea of not being able to smoke in bars and cafes would probably be called impossible and predicted a failure. A little out of context you may say, but I think its a fair comperison.

    • matt

      Rosdi;

      Its 6 years…not 16.

      Learn to count.

    • matt

      Rosdi;

      Its 6 years…not 16.

      Learn to count.

    • matt

      Rosdi;

      Its 6 years…not 16.

      Learn to count.

    • http://www.bblounge.co.za bblounge

      Gas is SO last decade.

      What we need is a car that runs on criminals :P

    • http://www.bblounge.co.za bblounge

      Gas is SO last decade.

      What we need is a car that runs on criminals :P

    • http://www.bblounge.co.za bblounge

      Gas is SO last decade.

      What we need is a car that runs on criminals :P

    • http://www.adslaccounts.co.za Telkom ADSL

      Excellent, hopefully other countries will follow suit. I’ll miss the sound of a V8, but if it saves the world there are always YouTube videos to replay.

    • http://www.adslaccounts.co.za Telkom ADSL

      Excellent, hopefully other countries will follow suit. I’ll miss the sound of a V8, but if it saves the world there are always YouTube videos to replay.

    • MichaelBryant

      Gas maybe it will out but do not think government should out law it. Internal combustion engines might have future burning biomass and generating electricity. We throw away millions tons of biomass that can turning into generator fuel or burn to generate electricity.

    • MichaelBryant

      Gas maybe it will out but do not think government should out law it. Internal combustion engines might have future burning biomass and generating electricity. We throw away millions tons of biomass that can turning into generator fuel or burn to generate electricity.

    • MichaelBryant

      Gas maybe it will out but do not think government should out law it. Internal combustion engines might have future burning biomass and generating electricity. We throw away millions tons of biomass that can turning into generator fuel or burn to generate electricity.

    • Michael

      I am from Tennesse, and a plan to ban new gas-only-powered passenger vehicles sounds like a reasonable plan.

    • Michael

      I am from Tennesse, and a plan to ban new gas-only-powered passenger vehicles sounds like a reasonable plan.

    • Michael

      I am from Tennesse, and a plan to ban new gas-only-powered passenger vehicles sounds like a reasonable plan.

    • http://cvrizzo.com CV Rizzo

      Norway is not a socialist country…it’s socialistic-democratic. There is a HUGE difference.

    • http://cvrizzo.com CV Rizzo

      Norway is not a socialist country…it’s socialistic-democratic. There is a HUGE difference.

    • http://www.dasolar.com Douglas Arrison

      We need more leaders advocating strongly for electric and solar cars. Keep pushing and we’ll eventually make the transition… http://www.dasolar.com/solar-energy/solar-powered-cars

    • http://www.dasolar.com Douglas Arrison

      We need more leaders advocating strongly for electric and solar cars. Keep pushing and we’ll eventually make the transition… http://www.dasolar.com/solar-energy/solar-powered-cars

    • http://www.dasolar.com Douglas Arrison

      We need more leaders advocating strongly for electric and solar cars. Keep pushing and we’ll eventually make the transition… http://www.dasolar.com/solar-energy/solar-powered-cars

    • Dave

      All of these predictions are dependent on the status quo continuing.

      New technology, environmental changes, a world wide depression, might change what people view as logical consequences.

      Here in the U.S. car makers have clung to the gas only models and Toyota is outselling them. Chrysler appears headed to extinction.

      Countries that make thoughtful changes, as Toyota has made thoughtful changes, may find themselves in similar advantageous positions.

    • Dave

      All of these predictions are dependent on the status quo continuing.

      New technology, environmental changes, a world wide depression, might change what people view as logical consequences.

      Here in the U.S. car makers have clung to the gas only models and Toyota is outselling them. Chrysler appears headed to extinction.

      Countries that make thoughtful changes, as Toyota has made thoughtful changes, may find themselves in similar advantageous positions.

    • Dave

      All of these predictions are dependent on the status quo continuing.

      New technology, environmental changes, a world wide depression, might change what people view as logical consequences.

      Here in the U.S. car makers have clung to the gas only models and Toyota is outselling them. Chrysler appears headed to extinction.

      Countries that make thoughtful changes, as Toyota has made thoughtful changes, may find themselves in similar advantageous positions.

    • http://www.enviro-space.com/ Simon

      I think this is a great proposal from Kristin Halvorsen. The auto companies are to greedy and to slow to adopt to a more eco-friendly business fast enough. And as you probably already know, time is not on our side anymore.

      No, instead Governments around the world need to introduce legislations like this one to speed up the process of moving towards a more environmentally friendly and sustainable future. If we don’t and let the corporations and auto companies to decide when and how we won’t have the slightest chance to win over man-made climate change.

      And I don’t see this as being impossible to accomplish. There is 6 years until 2015, cars that run partially on gas are still allowed and like the articles says: cars already on the road would be unaffected.

      In Sweden one of the right-wing parties (Centerpartiet) have proposed, just like Halvorsen, that cars that only run on gas would be banned by 2025 (they also want to ban the use of oil to heat buildings).

    • http://www.enviro-space.com/ Simon

      I think this is a great proposal from Kristin Halvorsen. The auto companies are to greedy and to slow to adopt to a more eco-friendly business fast enough. And as you probably already know, time is not on our side anymore.

      No, instead Governments around the world need to introduce legislations like this one to speed up the process of moving towards a more environmentally friendly and sustainable future. If we don’t and let the corporations and auto companies to decide when and how we won’t have the slightest chance to win over man-made climate change.

      And I don’t see this as being impossible to accomplish. There is 6 years until 2015, cars that run partially on gas are still allowed and like the articles says: cars already on the road would be unaffected.

      In Sweden one of the right-wing parties (Centerpartiet) have proposed, just like Halvorsen, that cars that only run on gas would be banned by 2025 (they also want to ban the use of oil to heat buildings).

    • http://www.enviro-space.com/ Simon

      I think this is a great proposal from Kristin Halvorsen. The auto companies are to greedy and to slow to adopt to a more eco-friendly business fast enough. And as you probably already know, time is not on our side anymore.

      No, instead Governments around the world need to introduce legislations like this one to speed up the process of moving towards a more environmentally friendly and sustainable future. If we don’t and let the corporations and auto companies to decide when and how we won’t have the slightest chance to win over man-made climate change.

      And I don’t see this as being impossible to accomplish. There is 6 years until 2015, cars that run partially on gas are still allowed and like the articles says: cars already on the road would be unaffected.

      In Sweden one of the right-wing parties (Centerpartiet) have proposed, just like Halvorsen, that cars that only run on gas would be banned by 2025 (they also want to ban the use of oil to heat buildings).

    • http://paiddirectory.megafoo.com/ paid directory

      What does vegetarianism have to do wtih it? According to Norway, they hunt endangered whales for science, not food.

    • http://paiddirectory.megafoo.com/ paid directory

      What does vegetarianism have to do wtih it? According to Norway, they hunt endangered whales for science, not food.

    • http://www.campaignsniper.com campaign sniper

      We need to ban Leaf Blowers before we ban cars. I hate my fing neighbor soooo much! ! ! ! !

    • http://www.campaignsniper.com campaign sniper

      We need to ban Leaf Blowers before we ban cars. I hate my fing neighbor soooo much! ! ! ! !

    • http://www.president101.com president

      socialist and left are insults only in the US dude! wake up!

    • http://www.president101.com president

      socialist and left are insults only in the US dude! wake up!

    • http://www.clockout.org employee time management

      Do they plan on supplying their people with said nonbanned cars, then?

    • http://www.clockout.org employee time management

      Do they plan on supplying their people with said nonbanned cars, then?

    • fatty.

      dude, rosdi, you may want to pull out a calendar next time you attempt any exercises in mathematics. 2015 is dang close to 5 years away.

      sincerely,

      fat, loud, ignorant american.

    • fatty.

      dude, rosdi, you may want to pull out a calendar next time you attempt any exercises in mathematics. 2015 is dang close to 5 years away.

      sincerely,

      fat, loud, ignorant american.

    • Jake

      I’d be curious to see the “behind the scenes” deals with automakers that occur before legislation like this is enacted. Oh wait, it’s Europe. Corrupt politicians are only in the USA, right? ;-)
      Go Green™!

    • Jake

      I’d be curious to see the “behind the scenes” deals with automakers that occur before legislation like this is enacted. Oh wait, it’s Europe. Corrupt politicians are only in the USA, right? ;-)
      Go Green™!

    • Greg

      You people are too funny! We are only talking about hybrid cars here not some unatainable technology, and they have been on the market for like 13 years!

    • Greg

      You people are too funny! We are only talking about hybrid cars here not some unatainable technology, and they have been on the market for like 13 years!

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