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Published on April 21st, 2009 | by Jerry James Stone

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Hummer H3 Plugin Hybrid Gets 100 MPG, Kicks Prius Butt

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While we wait to see if General Motors will go banko come June 1, Raser Technologies is hoping to change our minds about one of GM’s most iconic offerings: the Humvee.

During the upcoming 2009 SAE World Congress (Detroit, April 20 – 24) the company plans to unveil a Hummer H3 Range-Extended Electric Vehicle (ReEV) prototype. The vehicle is designed, first and foremost, as a purely electric vehicle with a drive train similar to the Voltec system in the Chevrolet Volt.

“We are resurrecting the Hummer,” David West, vice president of marketing for Raser Technologies said, adding that “It’s like a Volt on steroids.”

So far, this zombie Hummer pretty sweet. The modded Hummer gets 268 hp, has a 40 mile all-electric range, and a fuel-efficiency of over 100 mpg.

“We’ve taken the worst environmental offender on the road and made it greener than a Prius,” West told Wired.com.

Seriously, can it really out-green the Toyota Prius?

“Yes,” explains West. “We took the challenge and here it is. The average driver starts off with a full charged battery with a 40 mile battery range. 75-percent of consumers live within that range and drive less than 40 a miles a day. So most people will never hear the gas engine come on.”

GM probably hopes so. GM was topdog for over 70 years until 2007 when they were surpassed by Toyota as the world’s No. 1 automaker.

“We are excited to be able to demonstrate an electric powertrain for larger vehicles such as trucks and SUVs,” said James Spellman, Vice President, of Transportation for Raser Technologies. “These are the best selling vehicles in America and can benefit the most from increased fuel economy and reduced emissions.” He went on to say, “Unlike the Prius, which is a mild hybrid vehicle, an eco-friendly SUV will get people’s attention.”

The vehicle is propelled by a 200 kW Symetron Enhanced AC induction motor hooked directly to the transmission, which is still connected to the all-wheel-drive system. According to Raser, it’s one of the most powerful passenger vehicle electric motors offered today and the whole system has near zero emissions. Also, the traction motor will support regenerative braking.

“If we put this powertrain in smaller vehicles down the road,” West said, “you could expect about 400 miles per gallon for the average (city) consumer.”


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is a web developer, part-time blogger, and a full-time environmentalist. His crusade for all things eco started twenty years ago when he ditched his meat-and-potatoes upbringing for something more vegetarian-shaped. His passions include cooking, green tech, eco politics, and smart green design. And while he doesn't own a car anymore, he loves to write about those too. Jerry studied at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, CA. During his time there he was a DJ at the campus station KCPR and he also wrote for the campus paper. Jerry currently resides in San Francisco, CA with his cat Lola. You can stalk him on Twitter @jerryjamesstone.



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  • http://www.thegoodhuman.com David

    A truck that big that uses that much material to create ‘outgreens’ a much smaller car? Interesting idea, but I don’t buy it if anyone did an apple to apple comparison. Comparing these two is like apples to oranges; like comparing my bike to a school bus. :-)

  • http://www.thegoodhuman.com David

    A truck that big that uses that much material to create ‘outgreens’ a much smaller car? Interesting idea, but I don’t buy it if anyone did an apple to apple comparison. Comparing these two is like apples to oranges; like comparing my bike to a school bus. :-)

  • http://www.thegoodhuman.com David

    A truck that big that uses that much material to create ‘outgreens’ a much smaller car? Interesting idea, but I don’t buy it if anyone did an apple to apple comparison. Comparing these two is like apples to oranges; like comparing my bike to a school bus. :-)

  • http://@ecoscott Scott James

    Amazing.

    “We’ve taken the worst environmental offender on the road and made it greener than a Prius,” West told Wired.com.

    40 miles of all electric range is fantastic. It’s impressive and makes a big statement, though I do hope to see this technology in smaller cars as quickly as possible- I’m sure there are many who would be into driving all electric who either don’t want a Hummer or can’t afford one.

  • onesojourner

    Create EV1

    Destroy EV1 in favor or gas sucking hummer brand

    Make hummer smaller

    make hummer smaller again

    make hummer EV….

    is it any wonder why GM is tanking?

  • onesojourner

    Create EV1

    Destroy EV1 in favor or gas sucking hummer brand

    Make hummer smaller

    make hummer smaller again

    make hummer EV….

    is it any wonder why GM is tanking?

  • onesojourner

    Create EV1

    Destroy EV1 in favor or gas sucking hummer brand

    Make hummer smaller

    make hummer smaller again

    make hummer EV….

    is it any wonder why GM is tanking?

  • Tim Cleland

    “Create EV1

    Destroy EV1 in favor or gas sucking hummer brand

    Make hummer smaller

    make hummer smaller again

    make hummer EV….

    is it any wonder why GM is tanking?”

    I’ll add to the list:

    Create Geo brand when gas is ~$1/gal

    Kill Geo brand right before gas begins climb to $4/gal

    Create Caprice/Roadmaster wagons that get 26 mpg highway

    and has more cargo space than all but the largest SUVs.

    Kill Caprice/Roadmaster wagons to make more SUVs.

  • Tim Cleland

    “Create EV1

    Destroy EV1 in favor or gas sucking hummer brand

    Make hummer smaller

    make hummer smaller again

    make hummer EV….

    is it any wonder why GM is tanking?”

    I’ll add to the list:

    Create Geo brand when gas is ~$1/gal

    Kill Geo brand right before gas begins climb to $4/gal

    Create Caprice/Roadmaster wagons that get 26 mpg highway

    and has more cargo space than all but the largest SUVs.

    Kill Caprice/Roadmaster wagons to make more SUVs.

  • Bill Rodgers

    They’re lying. Notice that the mileage drops as the distance driven is increased. That means they’re using the mileage of the electric side to prop up the mileage of the gas driven side. It’ll probably get better mileage (ie the 33mpg at 200miles/day) but the 100mpg is hype. I like the concept of the vehicle but it would go over better without the sales BS.

  • Bill Rodgers

    They’re lying. Notice that the mileage drops as the distance driven is increased. That means they’re using the mileage of the electric side to prop up the mileage of the gas driven side. It’ll probably get better mileage (ie the 33mpg at 200miles/day) but the 100mpg is hype. I like the concept of the vehicle but it would go over better without the sales BS.

  • Bill Rodgers

    They’re lying. Notice that the mileage drops as the distance driven is increased. That means they’re using the mileage of the electric side to prop up the mileage of the gas driven side. It’ll probably get better mileage (ie the 33mpg at 200miles/day) but the 100mpg is hype. I like the concept of the vehicle but it would go over better without the sales BS.

  • EV1Fan

    Bill, according to GM, 78% of American drivers commute less than 40 miles a day. At that range, and if the car was charged everyday, you would get UNLIMITTED MPG. I agree the 100 MPG is an attention getter, and it got just that.. attention. This Hummer would change the face of the SUV industry. However, for those long road trips, it’s still going to get 33 MPG. Much better than the 10-14 MPG the Hummer gets now wouldn’t you say?

  • EV1Fan

    Bill, according to GM, 78% of American drivers commute less than 40 miles a day. At that range, and if the car was charged everyday, you would get UNLIMITTED MPG. I agree the 100 MPG is an attention getter, and it got just that.. attention. This Hummer would change the face of the SUV industry. However, for those long road trips, it’s still going to get 33 MPG. Much better than the 10-14 MPG the Hummer gets now wouldn’t you say?

  • Motorat

    This has all the earmarks of a great April fools joke. I hope the enviro-nuts target these things too.

  • Motorat

    This has all the earmarks of a great April fools joke. I hope the enviro-nuts target these things too.

  • michaelBryant

    GM should make more hybrid trucks, suv’s and plug in usv’s. there has been any good hybrids suv expect the escape.

  • michaelBryant

    GM should make more hybrid trucks, suv’s and plug in usv’s. there has been any good hybrids suv expect the escape.

  • Cameron

    This is a great application for the series hybrid; big vehicle, high torque requirements, and lots of space for battery/power-train storage.

    I’d rather drive this than a Prius anyday.

  • Cameron

    This is a great application for the series hybrid; big vehicle, high torque requirements, and lots of space for battery/power-train storage.

    I’d rather drive this than a Prius anyday.

  • http://www.thegoodhuman.com David

    So glad GM is taking all our tax dollars to make this piece of garbage.

  • http://www.thegoodhuman.com David

    So glad GM is taking all our tax dollars to make this piece of garbage.

  • http://www.biodiversivist.com Russ Finley

    I tried to explain why these serial hybrids will not fully recharge the batteries and everything else wrong with the idea here:

    http://www.grist.org/article/volt-reality-check

    This car will cost a small fortune. The idea wont’ scales. Only celebs will drive it and it won’t get anywhere near the mileage claimed.

    Electricity is not free either:

    http://biodiversivist.blogspot.com/2009/04/pimp-my-ride.html

  • http://www.biodiversivist.com Russ Finley

    I tried to explain why these serial hybrids will not fully recharge the batteries and everything else wrong with the idea here:

    http://www.grist.org/article/volt-reality-check

    This car will cost a small fortune. The idea wont’ scales. Only celebs will drive it and it won’t get anywhere near the mileage claimed.

    Electricity is not free either:

    http://biodiversivist.blogspot.com/2009/04/pimp-my-ride.html

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  • Tedd Mossa

    The title is misleading at best. If you read the article fully, the average is considering the average miles a humvee will be driven each day while it is fully charged. If the car travels 300 miles straight, it wouldn’t get the 100 mpg rating. It would be around the 33 mpg rating. This is a quote from the article: “No gas is used up to 40 miles. At 50 miles a day, the vehicle would still get 185 miles to the gallon. For 60 it’s 100 miles per gallon and over 200 miles the miles per gallon goes down to 33.” The title is a “joke.”

  • Tedd Mossa

    The title is misleading at best. If you read the article fully, the average is considering the average miles a humvee will be driven each day while it is fully charged. If the car travels 300 miles straight, it wouldn’t get the 100 mpg rating. It would be around the 33 mpg rating. This is a quote from the article: “No gas is used up to 40 miles. At 50 miles a day, the vehicle would still get 185 miles to the gallon. For 60 it’s 100 miles per gallon and over 200 miles the miles per gallon goes down to 33.” The title is a “joke.”

  • Ross

    This Hummer does not get 100MPG, saying so is just bad journalism and bad science. It has a 40 Mile electric range and gets about 30 MPG after that.

  • Ross

    This Hummer does not get 100MPG, saying so is just bad journalism and bad science. It has a 40 Mile electric range and gets about 30 MPG after that.

  • BSisBS

    If EV1fan could tell me where one gets electricity for free, I’d appreciate it.

    • David

      electric this electric that, the energy thay use to make electricity in a large part is made from fosil fuel. ( not so clean now ) start with clean energy then go from there.

      • http://importantmedia.org/members/joborras/ Jo Borras

        You’re right … kind of. Electric motors are still more efficient than gas engines and the turbines at power plants are more efficient than traditional 4-stroke ICE engines like the kind found in cars. So, yeah … I lied. You’re 100% wrong and full of poop.

  • BSisBS

    If EV1fan could tell me where one gets electricity for free, I’d appreciate it.

  • steve

    This is bad accounting–they do not factor in the equivalent MPG of the electrical energy stored in the battery. Notice that they do not quote the fuel economy for traveling 20 or 40 miles. If they did, it would be infinite by their definition.

    A Hummer could not perform better than a Prius. Two-thirds of the performance increase in the Prius comes from weight reduction alone.

  • steve

    This is bad accounting–they do not factor in the equivalent MPG of the electrical energy stored in the battery. Notice that they do not quote the fuel economy for traveling 20 or 40 miles. If they did, it would be infinite by their definition.

    A Hummer could not perform better than a Prius. Two-thirds of the performance increase in the Prius comes from weight reduction alone.

  • Brian

    What a bunch of horse****. By the time you get to the 200 mile mark, the MPG of the gas engine is actually less than 27 MPG (160 miles on 6 gallons) Not bad for a hummer, but about half of the aforementioned Prius and comparable to hybrid SUVs already on the market,

    Yes, the 40 miles on a charge is nice, I guess, until you compare it to any other plugins. It’s undoubtedly enough electricity to move a normal car 100 miles.

    This is a bit like adding vitamins to Fruit Loops and then rationalizing their superior nutrition.

  • Brian

    What a bunch of horse****. By the time you get to the 200 mile mark, the MPG of the gas engine is actually less than 27 MPG (160 miles on 6 gallons) Not bad for a hummer, but about half of the aforementioned Prius and comparable to hybrid SUVs already on the market,

    Yes, the 40 miles on a charge is nice, I guess, until you compare it to any other plugins. It’s undoubtedly enough electricity to move a normal car 100 miles.

    This is a bit like adding vitamins to Fruit Loops and then rationalizing their superior nutrition.

  • AP

    Good point David! People forget about the lifecycle of a producing a car…while yes, a green hummer is certainly milestones better than the current one, the whole manufacturing process of creating the hummer is quite polluting. Think of how much steel is needed for that hummer to exist in the first place!

  • AP

    Good point David! People forget about the lifecycle of a producing a car…while yes, a green hummer is certainly milestones better than the current one, the whole manufacturing process of creating the hummer is quite polluting. Think of how much steel is needed for that hummer to exist in the first place!

  • http://www.artformfunction.com Michaelc

    I am guessing that the cost of a lithium battery pack to move that behemoth is going to be huge. You will probably be able to buy two Priuses for the price of one of these hummers. In any case they will not sell because people who drive Hummers don’t care about the environment, and people who care about the environment would not be caught dead in this icon of irresponsibility.

    BTW when driven intelligently the new Prius gets 70mpg no matter how far you drive.

  • http://www.artformfunction.com Michaelc

    I am guessing that the cost of a lithium battery pack to move that behemoth is going to be huge. You will probably be able to buy two Priuses for the price of one of these hummers. In any case they will not sell because people who drive Hummers don’t care about the environment, and people who care about the environment would not be caught dead in this icon of irresponsibility.

    BTW when driven intelligently the new Prius gets 70mpg no matter how far you drive.

  • Craig

    My God, these items are so tedious. So a custom-built, super-expensive, modded-all-to-hell-and-back Hummer plug-in beats the Prius anyone can drive off the showroom floor for $26,000? Someone pass me the smelling salts; I think I might just swoon.

    Anyone want to compare apples to apples? Any number of companies are out there today performing similar modifications for the Prius–you might look at HyMotion, just to name one–that will get you around 100 MPG for the cost of the conversion (between 5 and 10 K). And that’s not mad-science lab, one of a kind prototype stuff–you can actually buy these things right now! They’re out on the streets!

    I get so tired of these contrarian for the sake of being contrarian articles.

  • Craig

    My God, these items are so tedious. So a custom-built, super-expensive, modded-all-to-hell-and-back Hummer plug-in beats the Prius anyone can drive off the showroom floor for $26,000? Someone pass me the smelling salts; I think I might just swoon.

    Anyone want to compare apples to apples? Any number of companies are out there today performing similar modifications for the Prius–you might look at HyMotion, just to name one–that will get you around 100 MPG for the cost of the conversion (between 5 and 10 K). And that’s not mad-science lab, one of a kind prototype stuff–you can actually buy these things right now! They’re out on the streets!

    I get so tired of these contrarian for the sake of being contrarian articles.

  • AJ

    Fuel-efficient or not, it’s still ugly as sin and will make the drivers look like idiots.

  • AJ

    Fuel-efficient or not, it’s still ugly as sin and will make the drivers look like idiots.

  • Phil E. Drifter

    It’s fucking ugly. Especially that color.

  • Phil E. Drifter

    It’s fucking ugly. Especially that color.

  • chris l

    most people in the city drive only 40 to 50 miles but my dad drives 120 miles on a

    not so busy day.

    he works at salina but lives 55 miles away. and all the people i know live 25 to 150 miles away from there job so i don’t think this car is a very good idea to produce.

  • chris l

    most people in the city drive only 40 to 50 miles but my dad drives 120 miles on a

    not so busy day.

    he works at salina but lives 55 miles away. and all the people i know live 25 to 150 miles away from there job so i don’t think this car is a very good idea to produce.

  • chris l

    people i know drive 120 miles a day to get to work so i dont think this truck would do any better than a gas chevy s 10 that gets 29.0 mpg, and most people drive 50 to 80 miles in a day plus pluging the truck in would cost and so you would have to figure how much money in comparason to a electricaty charge and gas price.

  • chris l

    people i know drive 120 miles a day to get to work so i dont think this truck would do any better than a gas chevy s 10 that gets 29.0 mpg, and most people drive 50 to 80 miles in a day plus pluging the truck in would cost and so you would have to figure how much money in comparason to a electricaty charge and gas price.

  • ET Snyder

    This is beyond foolish. This article completely neglects any information regarding the materials (and ultimately cost) used in this modification. All of the data look at outputs only, which are completely meaningless without a thorough evaluation of the inputs involved.

    If we looked at other energy systems this way, we’d insist we had plenty of oil left to burn in a good ol’ internal combustion Hummer…who cares if it takes more oil to extract it than we’d actually get in the end.

    Ultimately, the Hummer was never designed to be streamlined or efficient. If you applied these same modifications to a Prius, it would easily get far better marks.

    Overall, this is almost as good as irony gets…wasting a great deal in order to be efficient. Good try guys.

  • ET Snyder

    This is beyond foolish. This article completely neglects any information regarding the materials (and ultimately cost) used in this modification. All of the data look at outputs only, which are completely meaningless without a thorough evaluation of the inputs involved.

    If we looked at other energy systems this way, we’d insist we had plenty of oil left to burn in a good ol’ internal combustion Hummer…who cares if it takes more oil to extract it than we’d actually get in the end.

    Ultimately, the Hummer was never designed to be streamlined or efficient. If you applied these same modifications to a Prius, it would easily get far better marks.

    Overall, this is almost as good as irony gets…wasting a great deal in order to be efficient. Good try guys.

  • http://www.freemoney.com Prius Dude

    The New hummer sucks! their lying! F*** them!!!

  • http://www.freemoney.com Prius Dude

    The New hummer sucks! their lying! F*** them!!!

  • http://www.freemoney.com Prius Dude

    The hummer sucks!!! buy a pruis. less of a road hog they’re lying

  • http://www.freemoney.com Prius Dude

    The hummer sucks!!! buy a pruis. less of a road hog they’re lying

  • http://www.freemoney.com Prius Dude

    I hate it

  • http://www.freemoney.com Prius Dude

    I hate it

  • Daniel

    Comparing a Full size SUV or Truck to a Prius is not a fair comparison.

    A prius simply can’t so some things a truck can. For example, I routinely tow a 8,000+ lb. trailer, or haul 5 people plus camping gear to events. A compact car won’t work for that.

    When they start making a EV or hybrid that will tow and haul as well as my Diesel Excursion, I will seriously consider getting one.

    Though they aren’t there yet, it looks like these guys are on the right path to create an alternative for people who need a larger vehicle.

  • Daniel

    Comparing a Full size SUV or Truck to a Prius is not a fair comparison.

    A prius simply can’t so some things a truck can. For example, I routinely tow a 8,000+ lb. trailer, or haul 5 people plus camping gear to events. A compact car won’t work for that.

    When they start making a EV or hybrid that will tow and haul as well as my Diesel Excursion, I will seriously consider getting one.

    Though they aren’t there yet, it looks like these guys are on the right path to create an alternative for people who need a larger vehicle.

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  • http://www.arcimoto.com Katie Wilson-Hamaker

    Turning the Hummer into an EV is a really brilliant and bold marketing step. But sending off false information (100mpg) is not all that smart. In fact, it’s the kind of move that will eventually hurt the Hummer. There are many false claims as to how far batteries can take vehicles. The problem is, the majority of us still don’t understand how batteries work.

    Yes, 33mpg is better than 8-10mpg, but the whole reason for alternative fuels and electric vehicles is to stop using traditional gasoline. Not to take a gas guzzler and turn it into just another 33mpg SUV.

    So to make a panacea claim (100mpg) when the Hummer is actually no better than the average combustion vehicle is just flat out sending misinformation and I think it sucks.

  • http://www.arcimoto.com Katie Wilson-Hamaker

    Turning the Hummer into an EV is a really brilliant and bold marketing step. But sending off false information (100mpg) is not all that smart. In fact, it’s the kind of move that will eventually hurt the Hummer. There are many false claims as to how far batteries can take vehicles. The problem is, the majority of us still don’t understand how batteries work.

    Yes, 33mpg is better than 8-10mpg, but the whole reason for alternative fuels and electric vehicles is to stop using traditional gasoline. Not to take a gas guzzler and turn it into just another 33mpg SUV.

    So to make a panacea claim (100mpg) when the Hummer is actually no better than the average combustion vehicle is just flat out sending misinformation and I think it sucks.

  • Chadwick

    If anybody wants an engineer’s perspective…

    This really is a major aspect of most vehicle R&D at the moment. A friend of mine that got his masters in this area explained to me that EPA requirements are easier to meet when engines are provided a constant load like an electric generator (I won’t bore you with details) so there will be a lot bigger vehicles than this that use this technology. There’s also the fact that PM synchronous generators can get over 95% efficiency from the rotor to the inductive motor. Note that 268 hp is a direct conversion from 200 kW.

    I agree that 100 mpg is hype. They should say you get the first 40 miles from your wall power, then you have a gasoline generator with X mpg that will take you the rest of the way. But that’s why I’m an engineer, and not in marketing.

  • Chadwick

    If anybody wants an engineer’s perspective…

    This really is a major aspect of most vehicle R&D at the moment. A friend of mine that got his masters in this area explained to me that EPA requirements are easier to meet when engines are provided a constant load like an electric generator (I won’t bore you with details) so there will be a lot bigger vehicles than this that use this technology. There’s also the fact that PM synchronous generators can get over 95% efficiency from the rotor to the inductive motor. Note that 268 hp is a direct conversion from 200 kW.

    I agree that 100 mpg is hype. They should say you get the first 40 miles from your wall power, then you have a gasoline generator with X mpg that will take you the rest of the way. But that’s why I’m an engineer, and not in marketing.

  • sidewinder

    Point 1 – what would they have designed if they spent as much time on design as they did on marketing slogans?

    “out-green a Prius” – yeah, right.

    Point 2 – “how much steel goes into making ..” Judging by their performance in accidents, not a whole lot & what’s there is paper thin.

  • sidewinder

    Point 1 – what would they have designed if they spent as much time on design as they did on marketing slogans?

    “out-green a Prius” – yeah, right.

    Point 2 – “how much steel goes into making ..” Judging by their performance in accidents, not a whole lot & what’s there is paper thin.

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  • Richard Karch

    Oh yeah…. It will look good flying with pigs.

    This sounds as illusionary as the so called Volt that I predict will never be released or one reason or another.. ( Anyone want to bet on that?)

    GM has been consistently against REAL green progress and I think have learned that the rest of us are tired of waiting for them to innovate.

  • Richard Karch

    Oh yeah…. It will look good flying with pigs.

    This sounds as illusionary as the so called Volt that I predict will never be released or one reason or another.. ( Anyone want to bet on that?)

    GM has been consistently against REAL green progress and I think have learned that the rest of us are tired of waiting for them to innovate.

  • russ

    Motorat says it all. This lump is about as green as something that goes down the toilet. Any idea how big and powerful a 200 kW motor is? It doesn’t sound like most do.

    One big – big – big battery will get them 40 miles. Then back to gas. 200 kW is 200 kW whether the thing uses electricity or gas to generate it.

  • russ

    Motorat says it all. This lump is about as green as something that goes down the toilet. Any idea how big and powerful a 200 kW motor is? It doesn’t sound like most do.

    One big – big – big battery will get them 40 miles. Then back to gas. 200 kW is 200 kW whether the thing uses electricity or gas to generate it.

  • albo

    MPG on its own is a stupid way to do comparisons like this. Just imagine, duh, if the Hummer were 100% electric, it would be *infinite* miles/gallon…!

    The right question to ask is cost/mile, divided over an average life of the vehicle, including all the costs of purchase and disposal. That’s a measure of total cost effectiveness and efficiency. And I’ll be the Hummer wins out there again if you factor in the pollution cost of disposing of the Prius, and all the initial costs, too.

    Narrow metrics like MPG can always be gamed, and they by definition don’t tell the whole story. Car people should take a page from the truck and commercial vehicle world, and look at total costs per mile, as well as total operating costs for the typical life of a vehicle. Has anyone ever checked on the total costs per average passenger ??? I’ll bet Hummers carry and average person count 1.5-2x the average Prius. Therefore, they are already waaaay more efficient than a Prius even with an all gas engine in terms of ferrying people around.

    My wife drives a van with our four kids alot — our MPG should be multiplied by 5x compared to the smug shits that drive by themselves here in california and get access to the commuter lane simply because they drive a hybrid. What silliness.

  • albo

    MPG on its own is a stupid way to do comparisons like this. Just imagine, duh, if the Hummer were 100% electric, it would be *infinite* miles/gallon…!

    The right question to ask is cost/mile, divided over an average life of the vehicle, including all the costs of purchase and disposal. That’s a measure of total cost effectiveness and efficiency. And I’ll be the Hummer wins out there again if you factor in the pollution cost of disposing of the Prius, and all the initial costs, too.

    Narrow metrics like MPG can always be gamed, and they by definition don’t tell the whole story. Car people should take a page from the truck and commercial vehicle world, and look at total costs per mile, as well as total operating costs for the typical life of a vehicle. Has anyone ever checked on the total costs per average passenger ??? I’ll bet Hummers carry and average person count 1.5-2x the average Prius. Therefore, they are already waaaay more efficient than a Prius even with an all gas engine in terms of ferrying people around.

    My wife drives a van with our four kids alot — our MPG should be multiplied by 5x compared to the smug shits that drive by themselves here in california and get access to the commuter lane simply because they drive a hybrid. What silliness.

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  • http://scoopea.com/ Jeans

    i like strong car, hummer is the best.last year i bought a yellow Hummer,it’s nice…i always drive it to shopping.the peoples “wow,OMG…Hummer” haha… it’s make sense.i can’t wait for Hummer H3 Plugin Hybrid Gets 100 MPG!

    http://scoopea.com/Autos/Hummer_H3_Plugin_Hybrid_Gets_100_MPG_Kicks_Prius_Butt_Gas_2_0

    thanks for sharing!it’s my best!

  • Mamoru

    Can I fit my 6’8″ frame comfortably into the H3, more than likely yes.

    Prius, not a chance in HFIL. I had no chance of even fitting in the one I looked at.

    Can I haul my telescope equipment out into the country in both yes. Could I bring my friends along to. Not a chance.

    Look at the Solar Cell mounting room on the top of that monster.

    Can I afford either.

    Nope, I’ll have to make do with what I find on the used market.

  • Mamoru

    Can I fit my 6’8″ frame comfortably into the H3, more than likely yes.

    Prius, not a chance in HFIL. I had no chance of even fitting in the one I looked at.

    Can I haul my telescope equipment out into the country in both yes. Could I bring my friends along to. Not a chance.

    Look at the Solar Cell mounting room on the top of that monster.

    Can I afford either.

    Nope, I’ll have to make do with what I find on the used market.

  • KEN BREDY

    I would like to do this to a Toyota Tundra Crew Cab.

    What configuration of Tundra do I start with? Do I start with an existing Tundra or do I order it without the engine and transmission?

    What would it cost?

    Who would do the work?

    Can I order a kit? What would the kit cost? What would it cost to install the kit?

  • KEN BREDY

    I would like to do this to a Toyota Tundra Crew Cab.

    What configuration of Tundra do I start with? Do I start with an existing Tundra or do I order it without the engine and transmission?

    What would it cost?

    Who would do the work?

    Can I order a kit? What would the kit cost? What would it cost to install the kit?

  • Mark

    Glad to see companies (even Hummer!) trying to make others more aware of how we can improve environmental damage. I’m trying to bring awareness by spreading the word on the winners of the Tomorrows World video contest:

    http://www.tomorrowsworldcompetition.com/

    They had a competition over videos about water efficiency and flooding. Living off the West Coast, it’s a very real worry of mine. I think the winners did a great job! Check out their work and forward the link if you like it.

  • Mark

    Glad to see companies (even Hummer!) trying to make others more aware of how we can improve environmental damage. I’m trying to bring awareness by spreading the word on the winners of the Tomorrows World video contest:

    http://www.tomorrowsworldcompetition.com/

    They had a competition over videos about water efficiency and flooding. Living off the West Coast, it’s a very real worry of mine. I think the winners did a great job! Check out their work and forward the link if you like it.

  • http://shakageek.com William

    Outstanding technology, just giving us a glimpse of what the future will be all about.This is definitely some impressive stuff. I would buy one with no regrets nor thinking about it whatsoever.

  • http://shakageek.com William

    Outstanding technology, just giving us a glimpse of what the future will be all about.This is definitely some impressive stuff. I would buy one with no regrets nor thinking about it whatsoever.

  • Joe Gibbs

    This is a great innovation for both trucks and cars alike, but doesn’t change one thing… humvees are for meat heads.

  • Joe Gibbs

    This is a great innovation for both trucks and cars alike, but doesn’t change one thing… humvees are for meat heads.

  • Marik Steele

    To little to late. I would love to have a hummer for my business, but after watching who killed the electric car. EV1 I wouldn’t touch a GM product. Besides if some new unreachable fuel source comes along, Hydrogen GM will jump on the bandwagon and no one can get it and they will declare there was no interest yet again, and scrap it. Time for Goliath to fall.

  • Marik Steele

    To little to late. I would love to have a hummer for my business, but after watching who killed the electric car. EV1 I wouldn’t touch a GM product. Besides if some new unreachable fuel source comes along, Hydrogen GM will jump on the bandwagon and no one can get it and they will declare there was no interest yet again, and scrap it. Time for Goliath to fall.

  • Dennis

    And now for “the rest of the story…”

    How do these guys at Raser come up with their 100 MPG? Simple, they claim that if you drive 60 miles per day that the first 40 is powered by electricity and the next 20 is provided by their 33 MPG onboard engine. Therefore, only 1/3 of the distance traveled was provided by gas at 33 MPG, so it’s as though you got the equivalent of 3 times 33 MPG, which equals 100 MPG.

    Now let’s see what Raser isn’t telling you. First, their 200KW electric motor costs MONEY to operate! How much, you ask? Easy. If you drive 40 miles on electric power — half in the city and half on the freeway — you will spend about 1 hour driving (20 miles @ 30 MPH = 40 minutes, plus 20 miles @ 60 MPH = 20 minutes). Raser’s 200KW motor is rated at 100KW continuous, so 1 hour of driving will likely consume roughly 100KWH worth of electricity (100KW times 1 hour). The average cost of electricity in the U.S. is 11.5 cents/KWH; therefore 100KWH costs you $11.50, got it? That’s eleven dollars and fifty cents to go forty miles!!! Luckily, you get to go the next 20 miles on good old gasoline @ roughly 33 MPG, which would consume 6/10ths of a gallon of gas if the gas engine powered the vehicle directly. Unfortunately, it first has to power a generator, which then charges batteries, which then powers the electric motor. Still, lets be generous and assume that this gas engine takes you 20 miles on 2/3 of a gallon of gas, which costs $1.67 (2/3 times $2.50).

    So the grand total to travel 60 miles in Raser’s shiny EREV (Extended Range Electric Vehicle) only cost you $13.17!!! Isn’t that great? Of course, you would’ve only spent $5.00 if you could’ve driven all of that distance powered by their good gas-mileage IC engine. Or you could’ve paid $7.50 in any vehicle that averaged 20 MPG. However, where’s the fun in that? Look, you’re driving a high tech “EREV”… ooooh! One that cost you an extra $25K, and that added an extra 1,000 pounds of weight to the vehicle. Nice extras, huh?? BTW, did I forget to mention that their 200KW motor only provides 134HP in continuous mode? But wait you say, it gives 268HP at peak operation. Yes, that’s about what the new Ford Taurus provides (except for the Ford Taurus SHO, which gives 350HP). So you’ll be riding around in your new EREV Hummer in a reduced 134-268HP powertrain… can you say “put, put, put”?

    Does anyone see anything wrong with this?? Now do you see why Raser omitted mentioning the cost of electricity and only focused on their fuzzy-math MPG gas equivalent calculation? In reality, at today’s prices, their Hummer only got the equivalent of 11.4 MPG ($13.17 divided by $2.5/gallon = 5.27 gallons, and 60 miles/5.27 gallons = 11.4 MPG)!!!!!!!!

    The fact is that electric vehicles have NOTHING to offer in solving America’s transportation needs. They are not cost-efficient nor are they technologically superior. The demand for electricity in the U.S. is expected to grow by a taxing 25% over the next decade. Raser’s Hummer draws 100KWH of electricity in order to travel it’s first 40 miles, which is well over 3 times the power that your house draws in a complete day! Talk about an instant energy crisis! It’s a good thing that battery technology is still limited and that they added an IC engine to extend the range, otherwise their Hummer would’ve used 150KWH of electricity, or more than 5 times the daily draw of an average home!!

    This conveniently omitted information might explain why Raser has also entered the geothermal power market… they realize that switching to EV’s would require well over a 300% + increase to America’s annual electric power consumption.

    My question is this, why couldn’t Raser be upfront and honest with us about the true costs of Electric Vehicles? Afterall, consumers have shown that they are willing to pay more for efficient green power.

    Could their hesitancy in telling us the whole story be due to the fact that EV’s are neither cost-efficient nor green compared to standard IC engine technology?

  • Dennis

    And now for “the rest of the story…”

    How do these guys at Raser come up with their 100 MPG? Simple, they claim that if you drive 60 miles per day that the first 40 is powered by electricity and the next 20 is provided by their 33 MPG onboard engine. Therefore, only 1/3 of the distance traveled was provided by gas at 33 MPG, so it’s as though you got the equivalent of 3 times 33 MPG, which equals 100 MPG.

    Now let’s see what Raser isn’t telling you. First, their 200KW electric motor costs MONEY to operate! How much, you ask? Easy. If you drive 40 miles on electric power — half in the city and half on the freeway — you will spend about 1 hour driving (20 miles @ 30 MPH = 40 minutes, plus 20 miles @ 60 MPH = 20 minutes). Raser’s 200KW motor is rated at 100KW continuous, so 1 hour of driving will likely consume roughly 100KWH worth of electricity (100KW times 1 hour). The average cost of electricity in the U.S. is 11.5 cents/KWH; therefore 100KWH costs you $11.50, got it? That’s eleven dollars and fifty cents to go forty miles!!! Luckily, you get to go the next 20 miles on good old gasoline @ roughly 33 MPG, which would consume 6/10ths of a gallon of gas if the gas engine powered the vehicle directly. Unfortunately, it first has to power a generator, which then charges batteries, which then powers the electric motor. Still, lets be generous and assume that this gas engine takes you 20 miles on 2/3 of a gallon of gas, which costs $1.67 (2/3 times $2.50).

    So the grand total to travel 60 miles in Raser’s shiny EREV (Extended Range Electric Vehicle) only cost you $13.17!!! Isn’t that great? Of course, you would’ve only spent $5.00 if you could’ve driven all of that distance powered by their good gas-mileage IC engine. Or you could’ve paid $7.50 in any vehicle that averaged 20 MPG. However, where’s the fun in that? Look, you’re driving a high tech “EREV”… ooooh! One that cost you an extra $25K, and that added an extra 1,000 pounds of weight to the vehicle. Nice extras, huh?? BTW, did I forget to mention that their 200KW motor only provides 134HP in continuous mode? But wait you say, it gives 268HP at peak operation. Yes, that’s about what the new Ford Taurus provides (except for the Ford Taurus SHO, which gives 350HP). So you’ll be riding around in your new EREV Hummer in a reduced 134-268HP powertrain… can you say “put, put, put”?

    Does anyone see anything wrong with this?? Now do you see why Raser omitted mentioning the cost of electricity and only focused on their fuzzy-math MPG gas equivalent calculation? In reality, at today’s prices, their Hummer only got the equivalent of 11.4 MPG ($13.17 divided by $2.5/gallon = 5.27 gallons, and 60 miles/5.27 gallons = 11.4 MPG)!!!!!!!!

    The fact is that electric vehicles have NOTHING to offer in solving America’s transportation needs. They are not cost-efficient nor are they technologically superior. The demand for electricity in the U.S. is expected to grow by a taxing 25% over the next decade. Raser’s Hummer draws 100KWH of electricity in order to travel it’s first 40 miles, which is well over 3 times the power that your house draws in a complete day! Talk about an instant energy crisis! It’s a good thing that battery technology is still limited and that they added an IC engine to extend the range, otherwise their Hummer would’ve used 150KWH of electricity, or more than 5 times the daily draw of an average home!!

    This conveniently omitted information might explain why Raser has also entered the geothermal power market… they realize that switching to EV’s would require well over a 300% + increase to America’s annual electric power consumption.

    My question is this, why couldn’t Raser be upfront and honest with us about the true costs of Electric Vehicles? Afterall, consumers have shown that they are willing to pay more for efficient green power.

    Could their hesitancy in telling us the whole story be due to the fact that EV’s are neither cost-efficient nor green compared to standard IC engine technology?

  • Sydney

    And just how much gas/coal is burned to charge that honking battery? Really, you’re just moving where the emissions come from.

  • Sydney

    And just how much gas/coal is burned to charge that honking battery? Really, you’re just moving where the emissions come from.

  • Bhavik

    HOLY CR** I can’t wait for it to come out. I needed a big ride, but it turned out that I can’t promote eco-friendly with a hummer.

  • Bhavik

    HOLY CR** I can’t wait for it to come out. I needed a big ride, but it turned out that I can’t promote eco-friendly with a hummer.

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