Comments on: Hybrid Sales Plunge in January http://gas2.org/2009/02/10/hybrid-sales-plunge-in-january/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Thu, 24 May 2012 23:24:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Charles Vismeg http://gas2.org/2009/02/10/hybrid-sales-plunge-in-january/#comment-8290 Charles Vismeg Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:21:51 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1722#comment-8290 Interesting discussion and you all have a good point. Let me also add something to the car vs. car discussions that are soprolific in hese circles. The topic on much maligned automobile style, the SUV. Aren't todays "crossovers" look like SUVs with only the tops squashed lower? I live in rural domain, at higher elevation. Cars don't seem to cut it here and 4WD yield secure feeling to be able to get around in snow and slosh. I haven't seen a Smart4Two even in town since the winter set in. I would like to see all electric SUV's soon, IMO the hybrids are a stopgap solution. They still generate GHG. I'll wait this temporary situation out and buy new vehicle when the industry realizes that small is not fit for all and electrical power plant is the 21st century source for mobility. Interesting discussion and you all have a good point. Let me also add something to the car vs. car discussions that are soprolific in hese circles. The topic on much maligned automobile style, the SUV. Aren’t todays “crossovers” look like SUVs with only the tops squashed lower?

I live in rural domain, at higher elevation. Cars don’t seem to cut it here and 4WD yield secure feeling to be able to get around in snow and slosh.

I haven’t seen a Smart4Two even in town since the winter set in.

I would like to see all electric SUV’s soon, IMO the hybrids are a stopgap solution. They still generate GHG. I’ll wait this temporary situation out and buy new vehicle when the industry realizes that small is not fit for all and electrical power plant is the 21st century source for mobility.

]]> By: Charles Vismeg http://gas2.org/2009/02/10/hybrid-sales-plunge-in-january/#comment-30797 Charles Vismeg Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:21:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1722#comment-30797 Interesting discussion and you all have a good point. Let me also add something to the car vs. car discussions that are soprolific in hese circles. The topic on much maligned automobile style, the SUV. Aren't todays "crossovers" look like SUVs with only the tops squashed lower? I live in rural domain, at higher elevation. Cars don't seem to cut it here and 4WD yield secure feeling to be able to get around in snow and slosh. I haven't seen a Smart4Two even in town since the winter set in. I would like to see all electric SUV's soon, IMO the hybrids are a stopgap solution. They still generate GHG. I'll wait this temporary situation out and buy new vehicle when the industry realizes that small is not fit for all and electrical power plant is the 21st century source for mobility. Interesting discussion and you all have a good point. Let me also add something to the car vs. car discussions that are soprolific in hese circles. The topic on much maligned automobile style, the SUV. Aren’t todays “crossovers” look like SUVs with only the tops squashed lower?

I live in rural domain, at higher elevation. Cars don’t seem to cut it here and 4WD yield secure feeling to be able to get around in snow and slosh.

I haven’t seen a Smart4Two even in town since the winter set in.

I would like to see all electric SUV’s soon, IMO the hybrids are a stopgap solution. They still generate GHG. I’ll wait this temporary situation out and buy new vehicle when the industry realizes that small is not fit for all and electrical power plant is the 21st century source for mobility.

]]> By: Doug http://gas2.org/2009/02/10/hybrid-sales-plunge-in-january/#comment-8289 Doug Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:16:45 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1722#comment-8289 But ChuckL think of all the puppies he is killing. jk But ChuckL think of all the puppies he is killing. jk

]]> By: Doug http://gas2.org/2009/02/10/hybrid-sales-plunge-in-january/#comment-30796 Doug Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:16:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1722#comment-30796 But ChuckL think of all the puppies he is killing. jk But ChuckL think of all the puppies he is killing. jk

]]> By: ChuckL http://gas2.org/2009/02/10/hybrid-sales-plunge-in-january/#comment-8288 ChuckL Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:02:42 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1722#comment-8288 There seems to be an unfortunate disconnection from reality among many of the posters in this forum. It has to do with the inclusion of light trucks with automobiles. These are entirely different vehicles which are built for different purposes. One of my sons-in-law is a stone and tile mason. If he did not have the use of a pickup truck, he would not be able to feed himself, my daughter, or my grandchildren. Different tools are required for different applications. One size does NOT fit all. There seems to be an unfortunate disconnection from reality among many of the posters in this forum. It has to do with the inclusion of light trucks with automobiles. These are entirely different vehicles which are built for different purposes.

One of my sons-in-law is a stone and tile mason. If he did not have the use of a pickup truck, he would not be able to feed himself, my daughter, or my grandchildren. Different tools are required for different applications. One size does NOT fit all.

]]> By: ChuckL http://gas2.org/2009/02/10/hybrid-sales-plunge-in-january/#comment-30795 ChuckL Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:02:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1722#comment-30795 There seems to be an unfortunate disconnection from reality among many of the posters in this forum. It has to do with the inclusion of light trucks with automobiles. These are entirely different vehicles which are built for different purposes. One of my sons-in-law is a stone and tile mason. If he did not have the use of a pickup truck, he would not be able to feed himself, my daughter, or my grandchildren. Different tools are required for different applications. One size does NOT fit all. There seems to be an unfortunate disconnection from reality among many of the posters in this forum. It has to do with the inclusion of light trucks with automobiles. These are entirely different vehicles which are built for different purposes.

One of my sons-in-law is a stone and tile mason. If he did not have the use of a pickup truck, he would not be able to feed himself, my daughter, or my grandchildren. Different tools are required for different applications. One size does NOT fit all.

]]> By: Tim Cleland http://gas2.org/2009/02/10/hybrid-sales-plunge-in-january/#comment-8287 Tim Cleland Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:54:57 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1722#comment-8287 Bob, Very good explanation. Thanks. -Tim Bob,

Very good explanation. Thanks.

-Tim

]]> By: Tim Cleland http://gas2.org/2009/02/10/hybrid-sales-plunge-in-january/#comment-30794 Tim Cleland Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:54:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1722#comment-30794 Bob, Very good explanation. Thanks. -Tim Bob,

Very good explanation. Thanks.

-Tim

]]> By: Bob http://gas2.org/2009/02/10/hybrid-sales-plunge-in-january/#comment-8286 Bob Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:06:21 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1722#comment-8286 The reason GM makes the same SUV with the Chevy, GMC and Cadillac branding is due to the way their dealers are setup. Chevy dealers sell only Chevy's, nothing else, because the Chevy brand is a comprehensive brand with vehicles in all sizes, markets, etc. Then their are Pontiac/Buick/GMC dealers. Both Pontiac and Buick are niche brands and neither sells trucks, therefore, GMC fills that gap for those dealers. Then Cadillac is their luxury brand that stands alone and the Escalade is their high-end luxury SUV. Remember, these were all separate companies at one time and the dealer structure has evolved over the years but due to the financial arrangements between GM and dealers, changing them is a very, very costly proposition for GM. This structure worked pretty well over the decades and they simply can't afford any changes right now. The reason GM makes the same SUV with the Chevy, GMC and Cadillac branding is due to the way their dealers are setup. Chevy dealers sell only Chevy’s, nothing else, because the Chevy brand is a comprehensive brand with vehicles in all sizes, markets, etc. Then their are Pontiac/Buick/GMC dealers. Both Pontiac and Buick are niche brands and neither sells trucks, therefore, GMC fills that gap for those dealers. Then Cadillac is their luxury brand that stands alone and the Escalade is their high-end luxury SUV. Remember, these were all separate companies at one time and the dealer structure has evolved over the years but due to the financial arrangements between GM and dealers, changing them is a very, very costly proposition for GM. This structure worked pretty well over the decades and they simply can’t afford any changes right now.

]]> By: Bob http://gas2.org/2009/02/10/hybrid-sales-plunge-in-january/#comment-30793 Bob Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:06:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1722#comment-30793 The reason GM makes the same SUV with the Chevy, GMC and Cadillac branding is due to the way their dealers are setup. Chevy dealers sell only Chevy's, nothing else, because the Chevy brand is a comprehensive brand with vehicles in all sizes, markets, etc. Then their are Pontiac/Buick/GMC dealers. Both Pontiac and Buick are niche brands and neither sells trucks, therefore, GMC fills that gap for those dealers. Then Cadillac is their luxury brand that stands alone and the Escalade is their high-end luxury SUV. Remember, these were all separate companies at one time and the dealer structure has evolved over the years but due to the financial arrangements between GM and dealers, changing them is a very, very costly proposition for GM. This structure worked pretty well over the decades and they simply can't afford any changes right now. The reason GM makes the same SUV with the Chevy, GMC and Cadillac branding is due to the way their dealers are setup. Chevy dealers sell only Chevy’s, nothing else, because the Chevy brand is a comprehensive brand with vehicles in all sizes, markets, etc. Then their are Pontiac/Buick/GMC dealers. Both Pontiac and Buick are niche brands and neither sells trucks, therefore, GMC fills that gap for those dealers. Then Cadillac is their luxury brand that stands alone and the Escalade is their high-end luxury SUV. Remember, these were all separate companies at one time and the dealer structure has evolved over the years but due to the financial arrangements between GM and dealers, changing them is a very, very costly proposition for GM. This structure worked pretty well over the decades and they simply can’t afford any changes right now.

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