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	<title>Comments on: New Fuel Made With Wastewater Drastically Reduces Emissions</title>
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		<title>By: MeMySelfandYou</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/01/05/new-fuel-made-with-wastewater-drastically-reduces-emissions/#comment-8088</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMySelfandYou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we need to combine one waste with another to reduce carbon or Co2 emmisions, the standard C A T on a cars exhaust does this already, doing the water treatment is simply passing one problem to another and we go round in circles all the time.



To get our energy we still need to make steam from another fuel, this is a very wastefull way of doing it because the power plant runs all the time day or night, so lots of electricity is being lost along the lines, regardles of how its used and we are picking up the tab for their wasteful ways, when they should be paying for their own mess, its a no brainer.



To try and mix a nox or a bad carbon to another fuel is also wasteful, what we need is not to make the waste in the first place, waste is waste no matter what it is.



Incinerating anything cost time, money and fuel, the internal combustion engine is the most wasteful thing we have ever invented, about 80 % of a gallon of gas is wasted in the form of heat, this is why I say that the electic car is not good for the whole, as goes for the hyrid, your burning one fuel regardless of the efficiency to get the other energy.



The end result is a waste somewhere and no oil or coal left, which I think should be rationed to those who are making the best use of the most precious comodity that the planet has made for us,



If we have no lubrication we have no industry, the older type vedgatable fats and oils are simply not up to the higher temps that precise enginering standards and would grind to a halt within 48 hours without the high quality oils we have today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we need to combine one waste with another to reduce carbon or Co2 emmisions, the standard C A T on a cars exhaust does this already, doing the water treatment is simply passing one problem to another and we go round in circles all the time.</p>
<p>To get our energy we still need to make steam from another fuel, this is a very wastefull way of doing it because the power plant runs all the time day or night, so lots of electricity is being lost along the lines, regardles of how its used and we are picking up the tab for their wasteful ways, when they should be paying for their own mess, its a no brainer.</p>
<p>To try and mix a nox or a bad carbon to another fuel is also wasteful, what we need is not to make the waste in the first place, waste is waste no matter what it is.</p>
<p>Incinerating anything cost time, money and fuel, the internal combustion engine is the most wasteful thing we have ever invented, about 80 % of a gallon of gas is wasted in the form of heat, this is why I say that the electic car is not good for the whole, as goes for the hyrid, your burning one fuel regardless of the efficiency to get the other energy.</p>
<p>The end result is a waste somewhere and no oil or coal left, which I think should be rationed to those who are making the best use of the most precious comodity that the planet has made for us,</p>
<p>If we have no lubrication we have no industry, the older type vedgatable fats and oils are simply not up to the higher temps that precise enginering standards and would grind to a halt within 48 hours without the high quality oils we have today.</p>
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		<title>By: MeMySelfandYou</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/01/05/new-fuel-made-with-wastewater-drastically-reduces-emissions/#comment-30153</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMySelfandYou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we need to combine one waste with another to reduce carbon or Co2 emmisions, the standard C A T on a cars exhaust does this already, doing the water treatment is simply passing one problem to another and we go round in circles all the time.



To get our energy we still need to make steam from another fuel, this is a very wastefull way of doing it because the power plant runs all the time day or night, so lots of electricity is being lost along the lines, regardles of how its used and we are picking up the tab for their wasteful ways, when they should be paying for their own mess, its a no brainer.



To try and mix a nox or a bad carbon to another fuel is also wasteful, what we need is not to make the waste in the first place, waste is waste no matter what it is.



Incinerating anything cost time, money and fuel, the internal combustion engine is the most wasteful thing we have ever invented, about 80 % of a gallon of gas is wasted in the form of heat, this is why I say that the electic car is not good for the whole, as goes for the hyrid, your burning one fuel regardless of the efficiency to get the other energy.



The end result is a waste somewhere and no oil or coal left, which I think should be rationed to those who are making the best use of the most precious comodity that the planet has made for us,



If we have no lubrication we have no industry, the older type vedgatable fats and oils are simply not up to the higher temps that precise enginering standards and would grind to a halt within 48 hours without the high quality oils we have today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we need to combine one waste with another to reduce carbon or Co2 emmisions, the standard C A T on a cars exhaust does this already, doing the water treatment is simply passing one problem to another and we go round in circles all the time.</p>
<p>To get our energy we still need to make steam from another fuel, this is a very wastefull way of doing it because the power plant runs all the time day or night, so lots of electricity is being lost along the lines, regardles of how its used and we are picking up the tab for their wasteful ways, when they should be paying for their own mess, its a no brainer.</p>
<p>To try and mix a nox or a bad carbon to another fuel is also wasteful, what we need is not to make the waste in the first place, waste is waste no matter what it is.</p>
<p>Incinerating anything cost time, money and fuel, the internal combustion engine is the most wasteful thing we have ever invented, about 80 % of a gallon of gas is wasted in the form of heat, this is why I say that the electic car is not good for the whole, as goes for the hyrid, your burning one fuel regardless of the efficiency to get the other energy.</p>
<p>The end result is a waste somewhere and no oil or coal left, which I think should be rationed to those who are making the best use of the most precious comodity that the planet has made for us,</p>
<p>If we have no lubrication we have no industry, the older type vedgatable fats and oils are simply not up to the higher temps that precise enginering standards and would grind to a halt within 48 hours without the high quality oils we have today.</p>
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		<title>By: MeMySelfandYou</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/01/05/new-fuel-made-with-wastewater-drastically-reduces-emissions/#comment-30154</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMySelfandYou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we need to combine one waste with another to reduce carbon or Co2 emmisions, the standard C A T on a cars exhaust does this already, doing the water treatment is simply passing one problem to another and we go round in circles all the time.



To get our energy we still need to make steam from another fuel, this is a very wastefull way of doing it because the power plant runs all the time day or night, so lots of electricity is being lost along the lines, regardles of how its used and we are picking up the tab for their wasteful ways, when they should be paying for their own mess, its a no brainer.



To try and mix a nox or a bad carbon to another fuel is also wasteful, what we need is not to make the waste in the first place, waste is waste no matter what it is.



Incinerating anything cost time, money and fuel, the internal combustion engine is the most wasteful thing we have ever invented, about 80 % of a gallon of gas is wasted in the form of heat, this is why I say that the electic car is not good for the whole, as goes for the hyrid, your burning one fuel regardless of the efficiency to get the other energy.



The end result is a waste somewhere and no oil or coal left, which I think should be rationed to those who are making the best use of the most precious comodity that the planet has made for us,



If we have no lubrication we have no industry, the older type vedgatable fats and oils are simply not up to the higher temps that precise enginering standards and would grind to a halt within 48 hours without the high quality oils we have today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we need to combine one waste with another to reduce carbon or Co2 emmisions, the standard C A T on a cars exhaust does this already, doing the water treatment is simply passing one problem to another and we go round in circles all the time.</p>
<p>To get our energy we still need to make steam from another fuel, this is a very wastefull way of doing it because the power plant runs all the time day or night, so lots of electricity is being lost along the lines, regardles of how its used and we are picking up the tab for their wasteful ways, when they should be paying for their own mess, its a no brainer.</p>
<p>To try and mix a nox or a bad carbon to another fuel is also wasteful, what we need is not to make the waste in the first place, waste is waste no matter what it is.</p>
<p>Incinerating anything cost time, money and fuel, the internal combustion engine is the most wasteful thing we have ever invented, about 80 % of a gallon of gas is wasted in the form of heat, this is why I say that the electic car is not good for the whole, as goes for the hyrid, your burning one fuel regardless of the efficiency to get the other energy.</p>
<p>The end result is a waste somewhere and no oil or coal left, which I think should be rationed to those who are making the best use of the most precious comodity that the planet has made for us,</p>
<p>If we have no lubrication we have no industry, the older type vedgatable fats and oils are simply not up to the higher temps that precise enginering standards and would grind to a halt within 48 hours without the high quality oils we have today.</p>
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		<title>By: MeMySelfandYou</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/01/05/new-fuel-made-with-wastewater-drastically-reduces-emissions/#comment-30155</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMySelfandYou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gas2.org/?p=1541#comment-30155</guid>
		<description>Why do we need to combine one waste with another to reduce carbon or Co2 emmisions, the standard C A T on a cars exhaust does this already, doing the water treatment is simply passing one problem to another and we go round in circles all the time.



To get our energy we still need to make steam from another fuel, this is a very wastefull way of doing it because the power plant runs all the time day or night, so lots of electricity is being lost along the lines, regardles of how its used and we are picking up the tab for their wasteful ways, when they should be paying for their own mess, its a no brainer.



To try and mix a nox or a bad carbon to another fuel is also wasteful, what we need is not to make the waste in the first place, waste is waste no matter what it is.



Incinerating anything cost time, money and fuel, the internal combustion engine is the most wasteful thing we have ever invented, about 80 % of a gallon of gas is wasted in the form of heat, this is why I say that the electic car is not good for the whole, as goes for the hyrid, your burning one fuel regardless of the efficiency to get the other energy.



The end result is a waste somewhere and no oil or coal left, which I think should be rationed to those who are making the best use of the most precious comodity that the planet has made for us,



If we have no lubrication we have no industry, the older type vedgatable fats and oils are simply not up to the higher temps that precise enginering standards and would grind to a halt within 48 hours without the high quality oils we have today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we need to combine one waste with another to reduce carbon or Co2 emmisions, the standard C A T on a cars exhaust does this already, doing the water treatment is simply passing one problem to another and we go round in circles all the time.</p>
<p>To get our energy we still need to make steam from another fuel, this is a very wastefull way of doing it because the power plant runs all the time day or night, so lots of electricity is being lost along the lines, regardles of how its used and we are picking up the tab for their wasteful ways, when they should be paying for their own mess, its a no brainer.</p>
<p>To try and mix a nox or a bad carbon to another fuel is also wasteful, what we need is not to make the waste in the first place, waste is waste no matter what it is.</p>
<p>Incinerating anything cost time, money and fuel, the internal combustion engine is the most wasteful thing we have ever invented, about 80 % of a gallon of gas is wasted in the form of heat, this is why I say that the electic car is not good for the whole, as goes for the hyrid, your burning one fuel regardless of the efficiency to get the other energy.</p>
<p>The end result is a waste somewhere and no oil or coal left, which I think should be rationed to those who are making the best use of the most precious comodity that the planet has made for us,</p>
<p>If we have no lubrication we have no industry, the older type vedgatable fats and oils are simply not up to the higher temps that precise enginering standards and would grind to a halt within 48 hours without the high quality oils we have today.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/01/05/new-fuel-made-with-wastewater-drastically-reduces-emissions/#comment-8087</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way OT, but when are you guys going to do a story on the new Ford PHEV and fuel cell hybrid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way OT, but when are you guys going to do a story on the new Ford PHEV and fuel cell hybrid?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/01/05/new-fuel-made-with-wastewater-drastically-reduces-emissions/#comment-30152</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way OT, but when are you guys going to do a story on the new Ford PHEV and fuel cell hybrid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way OT, but when are you guys going to do a story on the new Ford PHEV and fuel cell hybrid?</p>
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		<title>By: Clean Future Energy</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/01/05/new-fuel-made-with-wastewater-drastically-reduces-emissions/#comment-8086</link>
		<dc:creator>Clean Future Energy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allgonquin,



Whilst I share your scepticism on SO2, I think you miss the larger picture here.



The dramatic reduction in CO &amp; volatile organics, means that combustion is more efficient, leading to a reduction in fuel usage.



Also the over emphasis on CO2 in the media, misses the point that, important as it is, other pollutants have a much more immediate effect on human health &amp; the environment. Carbon Monoxide, Particulates, NOx and Organics all fall into that category.



Ideally we would all stop using HFO, but in the meantime, this is a path worthy of investigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allgonquin,</p>
<p>Whilst I share your scepticism on SO2, I think you miss the larger picture here.</p>
<p>The dramatic reduction in CO &amp; volatile organics, means that combustion is more efficient, leading to a reduction in fuel usage.</p>
<p>Also the over emphasis on CO2 in the media, misses the point that, important as it is, other pollutants have a much more immediate effect on human health &amp; the environment. Carbon Monoxide, Particulates, NOx and Organics all fall into that category.</p>
<p>Ideally we would all stop using HFO, but in the meantime, this is a path worthy of investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: Clean Future Energy</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/01/05/new-fuel-made-with-wastewater-drastically-reduces-emissions/#comment-30151</link>
		<dc:creator>Clean Future Energy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allgonquin,



Whilst I share your scepticism on SO2, I think you miss the larger picture here.



The dramatic reduction in CO &amp; volatile organics, means that combustion is more efficient, leading to a reduction in fuel usage.



Also the over emphasis on CO2 in the media, misses the point that, important as it is, other pollutants have a much more immediate effect on human health &amp; the environment. Carbon Monoxide, Particulates, NOx and Organics all fall into that category.



Ideally we would all stop using HFO, but in the meantime, this is a path worthy of investigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allgonquin,</p>
<p>Whilst I share your scepticism on SO2, I think you miss the larger picture here.</p>
<p>The dramatic reduction in CO &amp; volatile organics, means that combustion is more efficient, leading to a reduction in fuel usage.</p>
<p>Also the over emphasis on CO2 in the media, misses the point that, important as it is, other pollutants have a much more immediate effect on human health &amp; the environment. Carbon Monoxide, Particulates, NOx and Organics all fall into that category.</p>
<p>Ideally we would all stop using HFO, but in the meantime, this is a path worthy of investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: Allgonquin</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/01/05/new-fuel-made-with-wastewater-drastically-reduces-emissions/#comment-8085</link>
		<dc:creator>Allgonquin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The process of emulsifying heavy fuel oil with water is nothing new - it has been done for years.  Unfortunately use of this fuel does not DRASTICALLY reduce emissions.  It does reduce NOx, but it will not change sulfur dioxides, because that is a direct pass through. That data showing an 18% reduction is suspect.



What is not stated is that if the boiler is burning an 80/20 mix, it must then burn 20% more of this mix to get the same amount of steam out the back end - the water in the fuel mix does not &quot;burn&quot;, it only basically cools the combustion process.  So if you still need the same amount of steam for your process requirements, you must still burn the same amount of oil, therefore all the &quot;toxins&quot; will still pass through the boiler and out the stack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The process of emulsifying heavy fuel oil with water is nothing new &#8211; it has been done for years.  Unfortunately use of this fuel does not DRASTICALLY reduce emissions.  It does reduce NOx, but it will not change sulfur dioxides, because that is a direct pass through. That data showing an 18% reduction is suspect.</p>
<p>What is not stated is that if the boiler is burning an 80/20 mix, it must then burn 20% more of this mix to get the same amount of steam out the back end &#8211; the water in the fuel mix does not &#8220;burn&#8221;, it only basically cools the combustion process.  So if you still need the same amount of steam for your process requirements, you must still burn the same amount of oil, therefore all the &#8220;toxins&#8221; will still pass through the boiler and out the stack</p>
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		<title>By: Allgonquin</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2009/01/05/new-fuel-made-with-wastewater-drastically-reduces-emissions/#comment-30150</link>
		<dc:creator>Allgonquin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gas2.org/?p=1541#comment-30150</guid>
		<description>The process of emulsifying heavy fuel oil with water is nothing new - it has been done for years.  Unfortunately use of this fuel does not DRASTICALLY reduce emissions.  It does reduce NOx, but it will not change sulfur dioxides, because that is a direct pass through. That data showing an 18% reduction is suspect.



What is not stated is that if the boiler is burning an 80/20 mix, it must then burn 20% more of this mix to get the same amount of steam out the back end - the water in the fuel mix does not &quot;burn&quot;, it only basically cools the combustion process.  So if you still need the same amount of steam for your process requirements, you must still burn the same amount of oil, therefore all the &quot;toxins&quot; will still pass through the boiler and out the stack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The process of emulsifying heavy fuel oil with water is nothing new &#8211; it has been done for years.  Unfortunately use of this fuel does not DRASTICALLY reduce emissions.  It does reduce NOx, but it will not change sulfur dioxides, because that is a direct pass through. That data showing an 18% reduction is suspect.</p>
<p>What is not stated is that if the boiler is burning an 80/20 mix, it must then burn 20% more of this mix to get the same amount of steam out the back end &#8211; the water in the fuel mix does not &#8220;burn&#8221;, it only basically cools the combustion process.  So if you still need the same amount of steam for your process requirements, you must still burn the same amount of oil, therefore all the &#8220;toxins&#8221; will still pass through the boiler and out the stack</p>
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