Boring Electric Car Gets 100 Miles Per Charge; Goes 85 MPH; Still Due 2010

 

Most of the new California electric car start-ups were started by the auto-design equivalent of fashionistas – auto afficionados who love cars for their gorgeous design, the thrill of the torque and the 0-60 in whatever seconds. So they build beautiful electric cars able to attain speeds that only those of us who can afford the speeding tickets could ever afford.

So it is ironic that Miles; the one electric car startup started by someone with some exposure to actual fashionistas – Miles Rubin had been a Ralph Lauren executive – for a long time didn’t even bother with fancy mockups of their prosaic electric car to be, but for the last few years made just one image available, that looked as if it was snipped from an old Life Magazine.

They allowed the image to drift about desultorily in the blogosphere for several years, not bothering to control the branding. Even the name – Javlon, and now, XS500; was just temporary: they will name it this year.

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Instead of investing in a gorgeous new design, Miles had just picked a workable, practical five-seater sedan already in production in China, and adapted it into an electric vehicle, designed it to stay below $40,000 before subsidies (which would be $7,500 off, under the current legislation – and likely more with the new probably filibuster-proof Senate majority) and just kept going with developing it.

Then they limited the top speed to a sensible 85 MPH in order to keep the range to a practical 100 mile round-trip per charge.

Miles’ new CEO shares the former design executive’s disinterest in design. Czinger hopes the same car will still be sold in five years, and merely plans to update the look occasionally:

“Fundamentally, we’ll have put in enough engineering in this car and this chassis that with continual technology upgrades – this is going to be attractive to people for many years.”

Unlike the major auto companies that need to sell 150,000 to break even, the break even is at just 5,000 cars a year, and they have production for 9,000 the first year. Like the other small EV start-ups, it doesn’t need fleets of flighty jets for management, or teams of fancy law firms to prevent legislated climate-related business-model changes, or millions for advertising and branding.

The prototype passed crash tests successfully (Autobloggreen) at 40 mph.

Over the next six months, more crash tests to meet both European ECE and American NHTSA rules; four prototypes will go through durability and reliability testing. Then the software will be tuned for full electronic stability control. Once that is complete, Miles plans a fleet test at the end of 2009.

It’s not for Fashionistas.

It’s just an electric car. One that can get you to work – on a freeway – allowing 100 miles every day to pick up both kids and their best friends from soccer after work, go get the groceries and go to yoga, go pick up a friend at the airport and get everyone home again to recharge again overnight for another 100 miles tomorrow.





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  • EVs need to be practical and can offer a solution to a lot of problems. All that is required is a practical, cheap to drive, compact vehicle that gets you from A to B with minimum fuss and practically no requirement of any maintenance.

  • EVs need to be practical and can offer a solution to a lot of problems. All that is required is a practical, cheap to drive, compact vehicle that gets you from A to B with minimum fuss and practically no requirement of any maintenance.

  • EVs need to be practical and can offer a solution to a lot of problems. All that is required is a practical, cheap to drive, compact vehicle that gets you from A to B with minimum fuss and practically no requirement of any maintenance.

  • EVs need to be practical and can offer a solution to a lot of problems. All that is required is a practical, cheap to drive, compact vehicle that gets you from A to B with minimum fuss and practically no requirement of any maintenance.

  • EVs need to be practical and can offer a solution to a lot of problems. All that is required is a practical, cheap to drive, compact vehicle that gets you from A to B with minimum fuss and practically no requirement of any maintenance.

  • 상율 한

    Going Electric also can bring the fuel price down, and the saving costs can cover infrastructure costs. We need a comprehensive thinking, instead of simple calculation; clean air and health care cost cut, man-made natural disaster decline and life/premises savings, energy security and war cost cut and more. For the 8 years, the U.S. has neglected up-to-date energy plan, therefore there is a need to expedite Going Electric. The current recession can be easily explained to think about the past costs of importd fuel, I think.

  • 상율 한

    Going Electric also can bring the fuel price down, and the saving costs can cover infrastructure costs. We need a comprehensive thinking, instead of simple calculation; clean air and health care cost cut, man-made natural disaster decline and life/premises savings, energy security and war cost cut and more. For the 8 years, the U.S. has neglected up-to-date energy plan, therefore there is a need to expedite Going Electric. The current recession can be easily explained to think about the past costs of importd fuel, I think.

  • 상율 한

    Going Electric also can bring the fuel price down, and the saving costs can cover infrastructure costs. We need a comprehensive thinking, instead of simple calculation; clean air and health care cost cut, man-made natural disaster decline and life/premises savings, energy security and war cost cut and more. For the 8 years, the U.S. has neglected up-to-date energy plan, therefore there is a need to expedite Going Electric. The current recession can be easily explained to think about the past costs of importd fuel, I think.

  • “All that is required is a practical, cheap to drive, compact vehicle that gets you from A to B with minimum fuss” Seconded, and may I add “with 4 wheels”?

    I testdrove ZAP’s Xebra, and really wanted 4 wheels!

  • “All that is required is a practical, cheap to drive, compact vehicle that gets you from A to B with minimum fuss” Seconded, and may I add “with 4 wheels”?

    I testdrove ZAP’s Xebra, and really wanted 4 wheels!

  • Actually,I just went and looked at the Alias – with the single wheel in the back – that’s kind of cool:

    That video looks like it is shot at Go Green Motors in Berkeley? I think I will go testdrive it!

  • Actually,I just went and looked at the Alias – with the single wheel in the back – that’s kind of cool:

    That video looks like it is shot at Go Green Motors in Berkeley? I think I will go testdrive it!

  • 상율 한

    The time is changing from IT to ET. Internet might be a matter of effiency, though, the energy challenge can be a matter of life and death, I think. In particular, the huge fuel-consuming nations such as China and India may have to rush to produce and introduce EV to save the world economy and planet, I guess.

  • 상율 한

    The time is changing from IT to ET. Internet might be a matter of effiency, though, the energy challenge can be a matter of life and death, I think. In particular, the huge fuel-consuming nations such as China and India may have to rush to produce and introduce EV to save the world economy and planet, I guess.

  • 상율 한

    The time is changing from IT to ET. Internet might be a matter of effiency, though, the energy challenge can be a matter of life and death, I think. In particular, the huge fuel-consuming nations such as China and India may have to rush to produce and introduce EV to save the world economy and planet, I guess.

  • 상율 한

    The time is changing from IT to ET. Internet might be a matter of effiency, though, the energy challenge can be a matter of life and death, I think. In particular, the huge fuel-consuming nations such as China and India may have to rush to produce and introduce EV to save the world economy and planet, I guess.

  • Doug

    Well hopefully they will become a viable manufacturer and will be able to streamline production to lower the cost of the vehicle to the $20,000 range where most people can afford one.

  • Doug

    Well hopefully they will become a viable manufacturer and will be able to streamline production to lower the cost of the vehicle to the $20,000 range where most people can afford one.

  • Doug

    Well hopefully they will become a viable manufacturer and will be able to streamline production to lower the cost of the vehicle to the $20,000 range where most people can afford one.

  • bluefyre

    Not trying to overstate this…the introduction to of EVs should be seen as a National Security Issue. The Auto industry is having a major effect on our economic and physcal well-being. We need to go into a WW-II mode of production to make this a viable solution.

  • bluefyre

    Not trying to overstate this…the introduction to of EVs should be seen as a National Security Issue. The Auto industry is having a major effect on our economic and physcal well-being. We need to go into a WW-II mode of production to make this a viable solution.

  • bluefyre

    Not trying to overstate this…the introduction to of EVs should be seen as a National Security Issue. The Auto industry is having a major effect on our economic and physcal well-being. We need to go into a WW-II mode of production to make this a viable solution.

  • bluefyre

    Not trying to overstate this…the introduction to of EVs should be seen as a National Security Issue. The Auto industry is having a major effect on our economic and physcal well-being. We need to go into a WW-II mode of production to make this a viable solution.

  • The world’s first affordable 5-door electric family car —— Jiayuan EV

  • The world’s first affordable 5-door electric family car —— Jiayuan EV

  • Mark

    It’s nice to see an EV company with their feet planted on the ground. I could never understand why companies building $100k+ vehicles ever got start up capital. The first rule of business investing is start with a product that has a large potential market. There aren’t enough rich people to go around and they can have short attention spans.

    Finally an EV that has mass appeal, and doesn’t look like a golf cart or tricycle. This has a chance of catching on to the green “movement”. They’ll have stiff competition from hybrids. If I had to make a prediction, hybrids will be the big winners for the next 10-20 years. Maybe by then batteries, fuel cells or capacitors will be the equal of liquid fuels.

  • Mark

    It’s nice to see an EV company with their feet planted on the ground. I could never understand why companies building $100k+ vehicles ever got start up capital. The first rule of business investing is start with a product that has a large potential market. There aren’t enough rich people to go around and they can have short attention spans.

    Finally an EV that has mass appeal, and doesn’t look like a golf cart or tricycle. This has a chance of catching on to the green “movement”. They’ll have stiff competition from hybrids. If I had to make a prediction, hybrids will be the big winners for the next 10-20 years. Maybe by then batteries, fuel cells or capacitors will be the equal of liquid fuels.

  • Mark

    It’s nice to see an EV company with their feet planted on the ground. I could never understand why companies building $100k+ vehicles ever got start up capital. The first rule of business investing is start with a product that has a large potential market. There aren’t enough rich people to go around and they can have short attention spans.

    Finally an EV that has mass appeal, and doesn’t look like a golf cart or tricycle. This has a chance of catching on to the green “movement”. They’ll have stiff competition from hybrids. If I had to make a prediction, hybrids will be the big winners for the next 10-20 years. Maybe by then batteries, fuel cells or capacitors will be the equal of liquid fuels.

  • Mark

    It’s nice to see an EV company with their feet planted on the ground. I could never understand why companies building $100k+ vehicles ever got start up capital. The first rule of business investing is start with a product that has a large potential market. There aren’t enough rich people to go around and they can have short attention spans.

    Finally an EV that has mass appeal, and doesn’t look like a golf cart or tricycle. This has a chance of catching on to the green “movement”. They’ll have stiff competition from hybrids. If I had to make a prediction, hybrids will be the big winners for the next 10-20 years. Maybe by then batteries, fuel cells or capacitors will be the equal of liquid fuels.

  • jim stack

    Miles is miles ahead of most automakers. I’d buy one of these practical and affordable cars when thyey are available. Just wait until oil subsidies stop and demand increases. We will pay $7-8 a gallon just like all of Europe and many other countries before the recession dropped demand.

    Miles is very practical. The meek shall inherit the (auto) world.

  • jim stack

    Miles is miles ahead of most automakers. I’d buy one of these practical and affordable cars when thyey are available. Just wait until oil subsidies stop and demand increases. We will pay $7-8 a gallon just like all of Europe and many other countries before the recession dropped demand.

    Miles is very practical. The meek shall inherit the (auto) world.

  • jim stack

    Miles is miles ahead of most automakers. I’d buy one of these practical and affordable cars when thyey are available. Just wait until oil subsidies stop and demand increases. We will pay $7-8 a gallon just like all of Europe and many other countries before the recession dropped demand.

    Miles is very practical. The meek shall inherit the (auto) world.

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  • Jo Borras

    I agree with a lot of what’s being said up there, but still think that most people in this country see cars as appliances, and are generally wary of electric cars.

    Case in point: my dad. He breaks my heart.

    He has the means to buy whatever car he would want (really), but even the Lexus LS600h is “too different” for him – and he’s not alone.

    For most Americans to get really excited about electric or hybrid vehicles, they need to push some buttons – and the “fashionista” cars (not sure why, but this seems somewhat antagonistic?) that have the slick looks and all th ego-fast goodies push ALL the buttons necessary to get the automotive press (who are, typically, performance-car enthusiasts) to give the more mundane hybrids and EVs that people will actually buy in mass quantities a fair shake – and that’s important.

    Also: I want a Tesla.

  • Joshua

    Honestly, THis is a good idea and I would love too be able too buy a sub 20,000 electric. But it only goes 100 miles on a charge?? Why not buy a 10,000.00$ sub compact that goes as far as you want. I doubt that any of us that can’t afford speeding tickets are going to buy one of these, unless it is range exteneded like the Volt. Most of the low and mid class people can only afford used vehicles or the sub 12,000.00$ range.

    As a person that is some what smart on electric drive tech. since I have been studying it since 5th grade. It seems that it wouldn’t take much to drop an electric drive into an already payed off, sub 12,000.00 vehicle and the prices for this conversion are only going to fall as the (electric) motors and battery technology become massproduced for the upper class that can afford to drop 30,000.00 on a range extended car like a Chevy Volt.

    Unless our government finally wakes up and figures out that giving tons of money too less and less people is why we are in such a mess in the first place. It is only natural that someone who earned a large sum of money would justify keeping all of it and not investing any.

    In these times of ever increasing change the people that have the most amount of money are the people that wish for change the least.

    It is no one’s fault and it is all of our responsibility to learn too change and let technology be our savior rather than fight it like the plague!!

    Imagine all the poor over inflated ego’s that have been created by people that have learned too ammass large amounts of money. Only too realize that it was mainly the advancement of technology that has allowed this to happen!!

    We should learn to embrace technology!

  • Joshua

    Honestly, THis is a good idea and I would love too be able too buy a sub 20,000 electric. But it only goes 100 miles on a charge?? Why not buy a 10,000.00$ sub compact that goes as far as you want. I doubt that any of us that can’t afford speeding tickets are going to buy one of these, unless it is range exteneded like the Volt. Most of the low and mid class people can only afford used vehicles or the sub 12,000.00$ range.

    As a person that is some what smart on electric drive tech. since I have been studying it since 5th grade. It seems that it wouldn’t take much to drop an electric drive into an already payed off, sub 12,000.00 vehicle and the prices for this conversion are only going to fall as the (electric) motors and battery technology become massproduced for the upper class that can afford to drop 30,000.00 on a range extended car like a Chevy Volt.

    Unless our government finally wakes up and figures out that giving tons of money too less and less people is why we are in such a mess in the first place. It is only natural that someone who earned a large sum of money would justify keeping all of it and not investing any.

    In these times of ever increasing change the people that have the most amount of money are the people that wish for change the least.

    It is no one’s fault and it is all of our responsibility to learn too change and let technology be our savior rather than fight it like the plague!!

    Imagine all the poor over inflated ego’s that have been created by people that have learned too ammass large amounts of money. Only too realize that it was mainly the advancement of technology that has allowed this to happen!!

    We should learn to embrace technology!

  • Joshua

    Honestly, THis is a good idea and I would love too be able too buy a sub 20,000 electric. But it only goes 100 miles on a charge?? Why not buy a 10,000.00$ sub compact that goes as far as you want. I doubt that any of us that can’t afford speeding tickets are going to buy one of these, unless it is range exteneded like the Volt. Most of the low and mid class people can only afford used vehicles or the sub 12,000.00$ range.

    As a person that is some what smart on electric drive tech. since I have been studying it since 5th grade. It seems that it wouldn’t take much to drop an electric drive into an already payed off, sub 12,000.00 vehicle and the prices for this conversion are only going to fall as the (electric) motors and battery technology become massproduced for the upper class that can afford to drop 30,000.00 on a range extended car like a Chevy Volt.

    Unless our government finally wakes up and figures out that giving tons of money too less and less people is why we are in such a mess in the first place. It is only natural that someone who earned a large sum of money would justify keeping all of it and not investing any.

    In these times of ever increasing change the people that have the most amount of money are the people that wish for change the least.

    It is no one’s fault and it is all of our responsibility to learn too change and let technology be our savior rather than fight it like the plague!!

    Imagine all the poor over inflated ego’s that have been created by people that have learned too ammass large amounts of money. Only too realize that it was mainly the advancement of technology that has allowed this to happen!!

    We should learn to embrace technology!

  • Joshua

    Honestly, THis is a good idea and I would love too be able too buy a sub 20,000 electric. But it only goes 100 miles on a charge?? Why not buy a 10,000.00$ sub compact that goes as far as you want. I doubt that any of us that can’t afford speeding tickets are going to buy one of these, unless it is range exteneded like the Volt. Most of the low and mid class people can only afford used vehicles or the sub 12,000.00$ range.

    As a person that is some what smart on electric drive tech. since I have been studying it since 5th grade. It seems that it wouldn’t take much to drop an electric drive into an already payed off, sub 12,000.00 vehicle and the prices for this conversion are only going to fall as the (electric) motors and battery technology become massproduced for the upper class that can afford to drop 30,000.00 on a range extended car like a Chevy Volt.

    Unless our government finally wakes up and figures out that giving tons of money too less and less people is why we are in such a mess in the first place. It is only natural that someone who earned a large sum of money would justify keeping all of it and not investing any.

    In these times of ever increasing change the people that have the most amount of money are the people that wish for change the least.

    It is no one’s fault and it is all of our responsibility to learn too change and let technology be our savior rather than fight it like the plague!!

    Imagine all the poor over inflated ego’s that have been created by people that have learned too ammass large amounts of money. Only too realize that it was mainly the advancement of technology that has allowed this to happen!!

    We should learn to embrace technology!

  • Joshua

    Honestly, THis is a good idea and I would love too be able too buy a sub 20,000 electric. But it only goes 100 miles on a charge?? Why not buy a 10,000.00$ sub compact that goes as far as you want. I doubt that any of us that can’t afford speeding tickets are going to buy one of these, unless it is range exteneded like the Volt. Most of the low and mid class people can only afford used vehicles or the sub 12,000.00$ range.

    As a person that is some what smart on electric drive tech. since I have been studying it since 5th grade. It seems that it wouldn’t take much to drop an electric drive into an already payed off, sub 12,000.00 vehicle and the prices for this conversion are only going to fall as the (electric) motors and battery technology become massproduced for the upper class that can afford to drop 30,000.00 on a range extended car like a Chevy Volt.

    Unless our government finally wakes up and figures out that giving tons of money too less and less people is why we are in such a mess in the first place. It is only natural that someone who earned a large sum of money would justify keeping all of it and not investing any.

    In these times of ever increasing change the people that have the most amount of money are the people that wish for change the least.

    It is no one’s fault and it is all of our responsibility to learn too change and let technology be our savior rather than fight it like the plague!!

    Imagine all the poor over inflated ego’s that have been created by people that have learned too ammass large amounts of money. Only too realize that it was mainly the advancement of technology that has allowed this to happen!!

    We should learn to embrace technology!

  • Mark

    There’s a lot of interesting information at BatteryUniversity.com

    According to them, a Li or Ni-based battery basically has a life of 500 discharge cycles. On a hybrid like the Prius, the battery rarely discharges less than 10%, so it can realistically last 8-10 years. But make it a plug-in hybrid or EV, and you might expect drivers to frequently discharge it nearly all the way. In that pattern, the battery pack would be pretty used up in 3 years. And in hot weather, they degrade even faster.

    At a cost of $10k to replace the batteries, you can see why I don’t expect EV’s or even plug in’s to be replacing liquid fuels any time soon. As much as I’d like to see them now, the current state of technology is still probably 10-20 years away from being more than a niche.

  • Mark

    There’s a lot of interesting information at BatteryUniversity.com

    According to them, a Li or Ni-based battery basically has a life of 500 discharge cycles. On a hybrid like the Prius, the battery rarely discharges less than 10%, so it can realistically last 8-10 years. But make it a plug-in hybrid or EV, and you might expect drivers to frequently discharge it nearly all the way. In that pattern, the battery pack would be pretty used up in 3 years. And in hot weather, they degrade even faster.

    At a cost of $10k to replace the batteries, you can see why I don’t expect EV’s or even plug in’s to be replacing liquid fuels any time soon. As much as I’d like to see them now, the current state of technology is still probably 10-20 years away from being more than a niche.

  • Mark

    There’s a lot of interesting information at BatteryUniversity.com

    According to them, a Li or Ni-based battery basically has a life of 500 discharge cycles. On a hybrid like the Prius, the battery rarely discharges less than 10%, so it can realistically last 8-10 years. But make it a plug-in hybrid or EV, and you might expect drivers to frequently discharge it nearly all the way. In that pattern, the battery pack would be pretty used up in 3 years. And in hot weather, they degrade even faster.

    At a cost of $10k to replace the batteries, you can see why I don’t expect EV’s or even plug in’s to be replacing liquid fuels any time soon. As much as I’d like to see them now, the current state of technology is still probably 10-20 years away from being more than a niche.

  • Paul M. Rybski

    While I would be pleased to purchase one of these cars, Miles will need a network of dealerships to sell and service these vehicles. No vehicle is good enough to go without service during its lifetime. I suggest Miles work with the already-struggling NEV dealerships nationwide. They already exist, and the Miles product would provide buyer traffic they currently do not see. I am also concerned about so high a demand for this product that Miles will not be able to meet it, driving away customers and potentially causing Miles to fail due to under-capitalization. Still, their to-be-named electric auto looks more practical than the the GM-Chevy Volt. If it comes out before the Volt, it could give GM some real competition.

  • Paul M. Rybski

    While I would be pleased to purchase one of these cars, Miles will need a network of dealerships to sell and service these vehicles. No vehicle is good enough to go without service during its lifetime. I suggest Miles work with the already-struggling NEV dealerships nationwide. They already exist, and the Miles product would provide buyer traffic they currently do not see. I am also concerned about so high a demand for this product that Miles will not be able to meet it, driving away customers and potentially causing Miles to fail due to under-capitalization. Still, their to-be-named electric auto looks more practical than the the GM-Chevy Volt. If it comes out before the Volt, it could give GM some real competition.

  • Paul M. Rybski

    While I would be pleased to purchase one of these cars, Miles will need a network of dealerships to sell and service these vehicles. No vehicle is good enough to go without service during its lifetime. I suggest Miles work with the already-struggling NEV dealerships nationwide. They already exist, and the Miles product would provide buyer traffic they currently do not see. I am also concerned about so high a demand for this product that Miles will not be able to meet it, driving away customers and potentially causing Miles to fail due to under-capitalization. Still, their to-be-named electric auto looks more practical than the the GM-Chevy Volt. If it comes out before the Volt, it could give GM some real competition.

  • Paul M. Rybski

    While I would be pleased to purchase one of these cars, Miles will need a network of dealerships to sell and service these vehicles. No vehicle is good enough to go without service during its lifetime. I suggest Miles work with the already-struggling NEV dealerships nationwide. They already exist, and the Miles product would provide buyer traffic they currently do not see. I am also concerned about so high a demand for this product that Miles will not be able to meet it, driving away customers and potentially causing Miles to fail due to under-capitalization. Still, their to-be-named electric auto looks more practical than the the GM-Chevy Volt. If it comes out before the Volt, it could give GM some real competition.

  • Paul M. Rybski

    While I would be pleased to purchase one of these cars, Miles will need a network of dealerships to sell and service these vehicles. No vehicle is good enough to go without service during its lifetime. I suggest Miles work with the already-struggling NEV dealerships nationwide. They already exist, and the Miles product would provide buyer traffic they currently do not see. I am also concerned about so high a demand for this product that Miles will not be able to meet it, driving away customers and potentially causing Miles to fail due to under-capitalization. Still, their to-be-named electric auto looks more practical than the the GM-Chevy Volt. If it comes out before the Volt, it could give GM some real competition.

  • Robert M.

    We (our citizens, our elected officials) need to realize that there is more than one way to beat terrorism and prevent wars. Oil is the currency of extremism, repression and violence. It finances the weapons of terrorists, religious extremist and dictatorial governments. Look at what has happened within Russia since they became a major oil exporter.

    If our government would stop investing such outrageous amounts of taxpayer money into the war machine and start making our country the leading exporter of affordable electric vehicles and various environmentally sound ways of generating electricity, we could stop the oil economy in it’s tracks. What many developing countries need is affordable transportation that’s easy to maintain. Many have natural resources, but they lack the technology to utilize them.

    Societies can function with electricity as the primary mode of energy for everything from transportation to farming and industry. But, many don’t have the technology and knowledge. We do. If the United States moves the world away from fossil fuels, the countries and terrorist organizations that cause most of the problems won’t have any money to continue. How many people have died in just the last few years because of the worlds dependence on oil.

    By the way, there are newer battery technologies that have higher capacities and longer life spans than today’s lithium and lead acid batteries. More investment would get them into mass production sooner. ( How many billions does it cost to send five people to the moon????)

  • Robert M.

    We (our citizens, our elected officials) need to realize that there is more than one way to beat terrorism and prevent wars. Oil is the currency of extremism, repression and violence. It finances the weapons of terrorists, religious extremist and dictatorial governments. Look at what has happened within Russia since they became a major oil exporter.

    If our government would stop investing such outrageous amounts of taxpayer money into the war machine and start making our country the leading exporter of affordable electric vehicles and various environmentally sound ways of generating electricity, we could stop the oil economy in it’s tracks. What many developing countries need is affordable transportation that’s easy to maintain. Many have natural resources, but they lack the technology to utilize them.

    Societies can function with electricity as the primary mode of energy for everything from transportation to farming and industry. But, many don’t have the technology and knowledge. We do. If the United States moves the world away from fossil fuels, the countries and terrorist organizations that cause most of the problems won’t have any money to continue. How many people have died in just the last few years because of the worlds dependence on oil.

    By the way, there are newer battery technologies that have higher capacities and longer life spans than today’s lithium and lead acid batteries. More investment would get them into mass production sooner. ( How many billions does it cost to send five people to the moon????)

  • Tim

    It’s incorrect to say that miles is “miles ahead of most automakers.” Aptera Motors, based out of California, is far ahead of the EV game. If you visit their new production facility, they’ll even let you take the ‘sledge-hammer’ challenge: If you can put a dent in the composite body of their prototype aptera 2e (due to hit the CA market this October, with over 4000 preorders, and 50,000 interested nat’l buyers), they’ll give you a hundred bucks!

    The vehicle sits on three wheels for better aerodynamics and less friction with the road, and has a lower drag coefficient than “lance armstrong on a bicycle,” and under half the weight of a prius. It has front wheel drive, a solar-climate-assist program that vents hot air out the back of the vehicle, even when parked, seats two, has a 100 mile range (that’s at 70mph with everything turned on, and the vehicle fully loaded)and a top speed of over 90MPH. Sorry Miles! Your EV can’t top the Aptera 2e!

    Retail Price is between $25,000-$40,000 making the Aptera 2e VERY affordable for consumers. The wide range in price is caused by a variety of things: drive train, gps nav, and other options. The 2e is the all-electric model.

    Aptera anticipates they’ll have the first 4,000 orders filled by the middle of next year. Their plug-in hybrid model, the ‘2h’ will follow shortly thereafter. The hybrid model can travel more than 300 miles on a gallon of gasoline. Sorry Miles!

    Do a google vid search for Aptera 2e or just read aptera news and you’ll see why this is the car to watch over the next few years.

    People have expressed concern over safety, since the aptera 2e is so lightweight. However, Steve Fambro, founder of Aptera Motors, has proven that although the aptera is classified as a motorcycle (the 3 wheels), he has far exceeded all safety regs for standard cars, making the Aptera not only the most efficient vehicle in the world today, but the safest as well!

    SORRY MILES! Back to the drawing board….

    Tim.

  • Tim

    It’s incorrect to say that miles is “miles ahead of most automakers.” Aptera Motors, based out of California, is far ahead of the EV game. If you visit their new production facility, they’ll even let you take the ‘sledge-hammer’ challenge: If you can put a dent in the composite body of their prototype aptera 2e (due to hit the CA market this October, with over 4000 preorders, and 50,000 interested nat’l buyers), they’ll give you a hundred bucks!

    The vehicle sits on three wheels for better aerodynamics and less friction with the road, and has a lower drag coefficient than “lance armstrong on a bicycle,” and under half the weight of a prius. It has front wheel drive, a solar-climate-assist program that vents hot air out the back of the vehicle, even when parked, seats two, has a 100 mile range (that’s at 70mph with everything turned on, and the vehicle fully loaded)and a top speed of over 90MPH. Sorry Miles! Your EV can’t top the Aptera 2e!

    Retail Price is between $25,000-$40,000 making the Aptera 2e VERY affordable for consumers. The wide range in price is caused by a variety of things: drive train, gps nav, and other options. The 2e is the all-electric model.

    Aptera anticipates they’ll have the first 4,000 orders filled by the middle of next year. Their plug-in hybrid model, the ‘2h’ will follow shortly thereafter. The hybrid model can travel more than 300 miles on a gallon of gasoline. Sorry Miles!

    Do a google vid search for Aptera 2e or just read aptera news and you’ll see why this is the car to watch over the next few years.

    People have expressed concern over safety, since the aptera 2e is so lightweight. However, Steve Fambro, founder of Aptera Motors, has proven that although the aptera is classified as a motorcycle (the 3 wheels), he has far exceeded all safety regs for standard cars, making the Aptera not only the most efficient vehicle in the world today, but the safest as well!

    SORRY MILES! Back to the drawing board….

    Tim.

  • Tim

    It’s incorrect to say that miles is “miles ahead of most automakers.” Aptera Motors, based out of California, is far ahead of the EV game. If you visit their new production facility, they’ll even let you take the ‘sledge-hammer’ challenge: If you can put a dent in the composite body of their prototype aptera 2e (due to hit the CA market this October, with over 4000 preorders, and 50,000 interested nat’l buyers), they’ll give you a hundred bucks!

    The vehicle sits on three wheels for better aerodynamics and less friction with the road, and has a lower drag coefficient than “lance armstrong on a bicycle,” and under half the weight of a prius. It has front wheel drive, a solar-climate-assist program that vents hot air out the back of the vehicle, even when parked, seats two, has a 100 mile range (that’s at 70mph with everything turned on, and the vehicle fully loaded)and a top speed of over 90MPH. Sorry Miles! Your EV can’t top the Aptera 2e!

    Retail Price is between $25,000-$40,000 making the Aptera 2e VERY affordable for consumers. The wide range in price is caused by a variety of things: drive train, gps nav, and other options. The 2e is the all-electric model.

    Aptera anticipates they’ll have the first 4,000 orders filled by the middle of next year. Their plug-in hybrid model, the ‘2h’ will follow shortly thereafter. The hybrid model can travel more than 300 miles on a gallon of gasoline. Sorry Miles!

    Do a google vid search for Aptera 2e or just read aptera news and you’ll see why this is the car to watch over the next few years.

    People have expressed concern over safety, since the aptera 2e is so lightweight. However, Steve Fambro, founder of Aptera Motors, has proven that although the aptera is classified as a motorcycle (the 3 wheels), he has far exceeded all safety regs for standard cars, making the Aptera not only the most efficient vehicle in the world today, but the safest as well!

    SORRY MILES! Back to the drawing board….

    Tim.

  • Tim

    It’s incorrect to say that miles is “miles ahead of most automakers.” Aptera Motors, based out of California, is far ahead of the EV game. If you visit their new production facility, they’ll even let you take the ‘sledge-hammer’ challenge: If you can put a dent in the composite body of their prototype aptera 2e (due to hit the CA market this October, with over 4000 preorders, and 50,000 interested nat’l buyers), they’ll give you a hundred bucks!

    The vehicle sits on three wheels for better aerodynamics and less friction with the road, and has a lower drag coefficient than “lance armstrong on a bicycle,” and under half the weight of a prius. It has front wheel drive, a solar-climate-assist program that vents hot air out the back of the vehicle, even when parked, seats two, has a 100 mile range (that’s at 70mph with everything turned on, and the vehicle fully loaded)and a top speed of over 90MPH. Sorry Miles! Your EV can’t top the Aptera 2e!

    Retail Price is between $25,000-$40,000 making the Aptera 2e VERY affordable for consumers. The wide range in price is caused by a variety of things: drive train, gps nav, and other options. The 2e is the all-electric model.

    Aptera anticipates they’ll have the first 4,000 orders filled by the middle of next year. Their plug-in hybrid model, the ‘2h’ will follow shortly thereafter. The hybrid model can travel more than 300 miles on a gallon of gasoline. Sorry Miles!

    Do a google vid search for Aptera 2e or just read aptera news and you’ll see why this is the car to watch over the next few years.

    People have expressed concern over safety, since the aptera 2e is so lightweight. However, Steve Fambro, founder of Aptera Motors, has proven that although the aptera is classified as a motorcycle (the 3 wheels), he has far exceeded all safety regs for standard cars, making the Aptera not only the most efficient vehicle in the world today, but the safest as well!

    SORRY MILES! Back to the drawing board….

    Tim.

  • Tim

    It’s incorrect to say that miles is “miles ahead of most automakers.” Aptera Motors, based out of California, is far ahead of the EV game. If you visit their new production facility, they’ll even let you take the ‘sledge-hammer’ challenge: If you can put a dent in the composite body of their prototype aptera 2e (due to hit the CA market this October, with over 4000 preorders, and 50,000 interested nat’l buyers), they’ll give you a hundred bucks!

    The vehicle sits on three wheels for better aerodynamics and less friction with the road, and has a lower drag coefficient than “lance armstrong on a bicycle,” and under half the weight of a prius. It has front wheel drive, a solar-climate-assist program that vents hot air out the back of the vehicle, even when parked, seats two, has a 100 mile range (that’s at 70mph with everything turned on, and the vehicle fully loaded)and a top speed of over 90MPH. Sorry Miles! Your EV can’t top the Aptera 2e!

    Retail Price is between $25,000-$40,000 making the Aptera 2e VERY affordable for consumers. The wide range in price is caused by a variety of things: drive train, gps nav, and other options. The 2e is the all-electric model.

    Aptera anticipates they’ll have the first 4,000 orders filled by the middle of next year. Their plug-in hybrid model, the ‘2h’ will follow shortly thereafter. The hybrid model can travel more than 300 miles on a gallon of gasoline. Sorry Miles!

    Do a google vid search for Aptera 2e or just read aptera news and you’ll see why this is the car to watch over the next few years.

    People have expressed concern over safety, since the aptera 2e is so lightweight. However, Steve Fambro, founder of Aptera Motors, has proven that although the aptera is classified as a motorcycle (the 3 wheels), he has far exceeded all safety regs for standard cars, making the Aptera not only the most efficient vehicle in the world today, but the safest as well!

    SORRY MILES! Back to the drawing board….

    Tim.

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