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	<title>Comments on: UPS Drivers Using Bikes to Deliver Packages This Christmas. I Seen it Wit Me Own Two Eyes.</title>
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		<title>By: UPS va face livrările pe bicicletă de Sărbători. Nu, nu în România &#124; Portocala Mecanică</title>
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		<dc:creator>UPS va face livrările pe bicicletă de Sărbători. Nu, nu în România &#124; Portocala Mecanică</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MeMySelfandYou</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/12/11/ups-drivers-using-bikes-to-deliver-packages-this-christmas-i-seen-it-wit-me-own-two-eyes/#comment-7208</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMySelfandYou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problems start when a company gets bigger or as big as UPS, the bike idea is an echo one but one that is frought by problems because of the infastructure, in most small towns one would need a drop off point that was both secure and within the town centre.



If there were smaller depo&#039;s to hold the daily deliveries the owner operator could run both bike and depo, as fuel prices get larger this might have to become a reality.



Bike were used for hundreds of years for local pickup and deliveries, I used one for five years while I was serving my time as an engineer, no need for a double take or to stand back in amazement, its all been done before, and could be done tomorrow if people simply put that little bit more effort in.



There is also the older method of the electric float like we all used to have our milk delivered with, this would fit right into the echo mentality, cheap clean energy on tap and would be a much safer and secure way of watching over those valuable parcels.



A horse drawn vehicle would do the same job, you could hire the Amish to deliver the letters and you would get free fert for your rose to boot, only kidding, but the horse is the most echo freindly way of all, every town has them growing fat in the fields only to be rode at the weekends, and I could make you the wheels and carts as im a wheelwright.



As we travel at the speed of light, things seem to slow down and what normally took a day or so to complete seems as if it taking the same amount of time if you want a next day parcel, they will say or ask you to wait in most of the day to collect and sign for it, so your no better off, a localdepo would cut down on road miles and fuel cost at journey or depo end, then the greener, slower route could take over, but its all down to costs at the end of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problems start when a company gets bigger or as big as UPS, the bike idea is an echo one but one that is frought by problems because of the infastructure, in most small towns one would need a drop off point that was both secure and within the town centre.</p>
<p>If there were smaller depo&#8217;s to hold the daily deliveries the owner operator could run both bike and depo, as fuel prices get larger this might have to become a reality.</p>
<p>Bike were used for hundreds of years for local pickup and deliveries, I used one for five years while I was serving my time as an engineer, no need for a double take or to stand back in amazement, its all been done before, and could be done tomorrow if people simply put that little bit more effort in.</p>
<p>There is also the older method of the electric float like we all used to have our milk delivered with, this would fit right into the echo mentality, cheap clean energy on tap and would be a much safer and secure way of watching over those valuable parcels.</p>
<p>A horse drawn vehicle would do the same job, you could hire the Amish to deliver the letters and you would get free fert for your rose to boot, only kidding, but the horse is the most echo freindly way of all, every town has them growing fat in the fields only to be rode at the weekends, and I could make you the wheels and carts as im a wheelwright.</p>
<p>As we travel at the speed of light, things seem to slow down and what normally took a day or so to complete seems as if it taking the same amount of time if you want a next day parcel, they will say or ask you to wait in most of the day to collect and sign for it, so your no better off, a localdepo would cut down on road miles and fuel cost at journey or depo end, then the greener, slower route could take over, but its all down to costs at the end of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: MeMySelfandYou</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/12/11/ups-drivers-using-bikes-to-deliver-packages-this-christmas-i-seen-it-wit-me-own-two-eyes/#comment-29511</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMySelfandYou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problems start when a company gets bigger or as big as UPS, the bike idea is an echo one but one that is frought by problems because of the infastructure, in most small towns one would need a drop off point that was both secure and within the town centre.



If there were smaller depo&#039;s to hold the daily deliveries the owner operator could run both bike and depo, as fuel prices get larger this might have to become a reality.



Bike were used for hundreds of years for local pickup and deliveries, I used one for five years while I was serving my time as an engineer, no need for a double take or to stand back in amazement, its all been done before, and could be done tomorrow if people simply put that little bit more effort in.



There is also the older method of the electric float like we all used to have our milk delivered with, this would fit right into the echo mentality, cheap clean energy on tap and would be a much safer and secure way of watching over those valuable parcels.



A horse drawn vehicle would do the same job, you could hire the Amish to deliver the letters and you would get free fert for your rose to boot, only kidding, but the horse is the most echo freindly way of all, every town has them growing fat in the fields only to be rode at the weekends, and I could make you the wheels and carts as im a wheelwright.



As we travel at the speed of light, things seem to slow down and what normally took a day or so to complete seems as if it taking the same amount of time if you want a next day parcel, they will say or ask you to wait in most of the day to collect and sign for it, so your no better off, a localdepo would cut down on road miles and fuel cost at journey or depo end, then the greener, slower route could take over, but its all down to costs at the end of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problems start when a company gets bigger or as big as UPS, the bike idea is an echo one but one that is frought by problems because of the infastructure, in most small towns one would need a drop off point that was both secure and within the town centre.</p>
<p>If there were smaller depo&#8217;s to hold the daily deliveries the owner operator could run both bike and depo, as fuel prices get larger this might have to become a reality.</p>
<p>Bike were used for hundreds of years for local pickup and deliveries, I used one for five years while I was serving my time as an engineer, no need for a double take or to stand back in amazement, its all been done before, and could be done tomorrow if people simply put that little bit more effort in.</p>
<p>There is also the older method of the electric float like we all used to have our milk delivered with, this would fit right into the echo mentality, cheap clean energy on tap and would be a much safer and secure way of watching over those valuable parcels.</p>
<p>A horse drawn vehicle would do the same job, you could hire the Amish to deliver the letters and you would get free fert for your rose to boot, only kidding, but the horse is the most echo freindly way of all, every town has them growing fat in the fields only to be rode at the weekends, and I could make you the wheels and carts as im a wheelwright.</p>
<p>As we travel at the speed of light, things seem to slow down and what normally took a day or so to complete seems as if it taking the same amount of time if you want a next day parcel, they will say or ask you to wait in most of the day to collect and sign for it, so your no better off, a localdepo would cut down on road miles and fuel cost at journey or depo end, then the greener, slower route could take over, but its all down to costs at the end of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/12/11/ups-drivers-using-bikes-to-deliver-packages-this-christmas-i-seen-it-wit-me-own-two-eyes/#comment-7207</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, three things:



1) Ever hear of bike messengers?



2) We&#039;re talking about making deliveries in high-density downtown areas during peak delivery season.  Did you not understand what BP the UPS worker typed?  It&#039;s a very good (and cheap) way of increasing delivery service without having to buy another truck or eight.  This frees up trucks to work in less-dense areas such as the suburbs.  Plus, it&#039;s easier to park the bike-and-trailer rigs downtown than it is to find a spot for a truck during the day.



3) Bikes and trailers can haul a lot more than you think.  See the Peace Coffee website: http://www.peacecoffee.com/pedaling.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, three things:</p>
<p>1) Ever hear of bike messengers?</p>
<p>2) We&#8217;re talking about making deliveries in high-density downtown areas during peak delivery season.  Did you not understand what BP the UPS worker typed?  It&#8217;s a very good (and cheap) way of increasing delivery service without having to buy another truck or eight.  This frees up trucks to work in less-dense areas such as the suburbs.  Plus, it&#8217;s easier to park the bike-and-trailer rigs downtown than it is to find a spot for a truck during the day.</p>
<p>3) Bikes and trailers can haul a lot more than you think.  See the Peace Coffee website: <a href="http://www.peacecoffee.com/pedaling.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.peacecoffee.com/pedaling.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/12/11/ups-drivers-using-bikes-to-deliver-packages-this-christmas-i-seen-it-wit-me-own-two-eyes/#comment-29510</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, three things:



1) Ever hear of bike messengers?



2) We&#039;re talking about making deliveries in high-density downtown areas during peak delivery season.  Did you not understand what BP the UPS worker typed?  It&#039;s a very good (and cheap) way of increasing delivery service without having to buy another truck or eight.  This frees up trucks to work in less-dense areas such as the suburbs.  Plus, it&#039;s easier to park the bike-and-trailer rigs downtown than it is to find a spot for a truck during the day.



3) Bikes and trailers can haul a lot more than you think.  See the Peace Coffee website: http://www.peacecoffee.com/pedaling.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, three things:</p>
<p>1) Ever hear of bike messengers?</p>
<p>2) We&#8217;re talking about making deliveries in high-density downtown areas during peak delivery season.  Did you not understand what BP the UPS worker typed?  It&#8217;s a very good (and cheap) way of increasing delivery service without having to buy another truck or eight.  This frees up trucks to work in less-dense areas such as the suburbs.  Plus, it&#8217;s easier to park the bike-and-trailer rigs downtown than it is to find a spot for a truck during the day.</p>
<p>3) Bikes and trailers can haul a lot more than you think.  See the Peace Coffee website: <a href="http://www.peacecoffee.com/pedaling.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.peacecoffee.com/pedaling.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Chambers</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/12/11/ups-drivers-using-bikes-to-deliver-packages-this-christmas-i-seen-it-wit-me-own-two-eyes/#comment-7206</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Chambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MS,



What makes you think I was referring to commuters? Get over yourself, get off your high horse and read that paragraph again. This time don&#039;t enter the word &quot;commuter&quot;in there on your own.



In my town we have literally crazy people who ride their bikes around town all day long. They may be mentally handicapped, I don&#039;t know. But they&#039;re creepy and ride very slowly just back and forth all day long from one side of the town to the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MS,</p>
<p>What makes you think I was referring to commuters? Get over yourself, get off your high horse and read that paragraph again. This time don&#8217;t enter the word &#8220;commuter&#8221;in there on your own.</p>
<p>In my town we have literally crazy people who ride their bikes around town all day long. They may be mentally handicapped, I don&#8217;t know. But they&#8217;re creepy and ride very slowly just back and forth all day long from one side of the town to the other.</p>
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		<title>By: MS</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/12/11/ups-drivers-using-bikes-to-deliver-packages-this-christmas-i-seen-it-wit-me-own-two-eyes/#comment-7205</link>
		<dc:creator>MS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you refer to people who commute by bicycle as &quot;crazies&quot;?  I think there&#039;s a much more reasonable, and sane, argument to be made that the truly crazy people are those able-bodied folks who are too lazy and arrogant to eschew car-driving in favor of carbon-neutral alternatives such as bicycling, especially in our social/economic context, and those cowards who would mindlessly marginalize bike riders simply for taking the extra initiative.



But if commuting via bicycle is crazy, then for the sake of humanity, please step aside and let the lunatics take over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you refer to people who commute by bicycle as &#8220;crazies&#8221;?  I think there&#8217;s a much more reasonable, and sane, argument to be made that the truly crazy people are those able-bodied folks who are too lazy and arrogant to eschew car-driving in favor of carbon-neutral alternatives such as bicycling, especially in our social/economic context, and those cowards who would mindlessly marginalize bike riders simply for taking the extra initiative.</p>
<p>But if commuting via bicycle is crazy, then for the sake of humanity, please step aside and let the lunatics take over!</p>
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		<title>By: MS</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/12/11/ups-drivers-using-bikes-to-deliver-packages-this-christmas-i-seen-it-wit-me-own-two-eyes/#comment-29509</link>
		<dc:creator>MS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you refer to people who commute by bicycle as &quot;crazies&quot;?  I think there&#039;s a much more reasonable, and sane, argument to be made that the truly crazy people are those able-bodied folks who are too lazy and arrogant to eschew car-driving in favor of carbon-neutral alternatives such as bicycling, especially in our social/economic context, and those cowards who would mindlessly marginalize bike riders simply for taking the extra initiative.



But if commuting via bicycle is crazy, then for the sake of humanity, please step aside and let the lunatics take over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you refer to people who commute by bicycle as &#8220;crazies&#8221;?  I think there&#8217;s a much more reasonable, and sane, argument to be made that the truly crazy people are those able-bodied folks who are too lazy and arrogant to eschew car-driving in favor of carbon-neutral alternatives such as bicycling, especially in our social/economic context, and those cowards who would mindlessly marginalize bike riders simply for taking the extra initiative.</p>
<p>But if commuting via bicycle is crazy, then for the sake of humanity, please step aside and let the lunatics take over!</p>
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		<title>By: chris grealish</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/12/11/ups-drivers-using-bikes-to-deliver-packages-this-christmas-i-seen-it-wit-me-own-two-eyes/#comment-7204</link>
		<dc:creator>chris grealish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In select urban markets this solution makes a lot of sense. UPS started their company on bicycles in the Seattle area. This is a viable way for them to save tons of money in my opinion. My dream job would be to contract with UPS or FedX to assist them with integrating cycle messengers wherever possible !  C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In select urban markets this solution makes a lot of sense. UPS started their company on bicycles in the Seattle area. This is a viable way for them to save tons of money in my opinion. My dream job would be to contract with UPS or FedX to assist them with integrating cycle messengers wherever possible !  C</p>
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		<title>By: chris grealish</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/12/11/ups-drivers-using-bikes-to-deliver-packages-this-christmas-i-seen-it-wit-me-own-two-eyes/#comment-29508</link>
		<dc:creator>chris grealish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In select urban markets this solution makes a lot of sense. UPS started their company on bicycles in the Seattle area. This is a viable way for them to save tons of money in my opinion. My dream job would be to contract with UPS or FedX to assist them with integrating cycle messengers wherever possible !  C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In select urban markets this solution makes a lot of sense. UPS started their company on bicycles in the Seattle area. This is a viable way for them to save tons of money in my opinion. My dream job would be to contract with UPS or FedX to assist them with integrating cycle messengers wherever possible !  C</p>
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