Comments on: Ten Percent of ALL Vehicles in Ireland to be Electric Cars by 2020 http://gas2.org/2008/11/30/ten-percent-of-all-vehicles-in-ireland-to-be-electric-cars-by-2020/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:40:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Uncle B http://gas2.org/2008/11/30/ten-percent-of-all-vehicles-in-ireland-to-be-electric-cars-by-2020/#comment-6982 Uncle B Mon, 25 May 2009 20:17:55 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1328#comment-6982 As the American dollar weakens and fades from recognition, replaced on the world scene by the Chinese Yuan and the American consumer is met at the pumps by prices the huge and growing Chinese population are willing to pay to drive cars, the demise of the gasoline engine, the adaptation to diesel, and finally to electric personal transportation will expand across the U.S. Slowly at first, then driven by the falling dollar and the great repuglican depression and astounding unemployment and underemployment, poor credit and shortages of food, Americans will adopt trains, and travel less overall. They will telecommute to the few jobs available, pick and grow their own fruit and veggies for sustainance and employment, and build huge walls to keep Mexicans and other migrant workers away. Here in the post WWII, pre-Chinese Dynasty era, the mighty "Yankee Doodle" and his wild-eyed "American Dream" have hit the wall of reality, and with the rising price of oil, falling domestic productivity, and the crash to come - financial derivatives, the example they will set before the world will be one of subdued practicality and sensible survival in face of almost insurmountable debt and unsateable appetites for all forbidden fruits. The internal turmoil has already begun, with the demise of first, the mighty Chrysler cars, and now, GM the granddaddy of the American economy, dashed to bankruptcy by a handful of Asian marques, considered trash only a decade ago! Ireland will do well to move to planned obsolescence-free electrics with rechargeable, recyclable battery power, windmills, tidal, wave, technologies for fuel, and follow Denmark and Germany into the less dramatic but more stable non-nuclear future. When no longer held up in comparison to the "American Dream", an unsustainable advertising notion to start with, life in simple humble fashion can be quite enjoyable and rewarding. This, the American folk are about to learn. As the American dollar weakens and fades from recognition, replaced on the world scene by the Chinese Yuan and the American consumer is met at the pumps by prices the huge and growing Chinese population are willing to pay to drive cars, the demise of the gasoline engine, the adaptation to diesel, and finally to electric personal transportation will expand across the U.S. Slowly at first, then driven by the falling dollar and the great repuglican depression and astounding unemployment and underemployment, poor credit and shortages of food, Americans will adopt trains, and travel less overall. They will telecommute to the few jobs available, pick and grow their own fruit and veggies for sustainance and employment, and build huge walls to keep Mexicans and other migrant workers away. Here in the post WWII, pre-Chinese Dynasty era, the mighty “Yankee Doodle” and his wild-eyed “American Dream” have hit the wall of reality, and with the rising price of oil, falling domestic productivity, and the crash to come – financial derivatives, the example they will set before the world will be one of subdued practicality and sensible survival in face of almost insurmountable debt and unsateable appetites for all forbidden fruits. The internal turmoil has already begun, with the demise of first, the mighty Chrysler cars, and now, GM the granddaddy of the American economy, dashed to bankruptcy by a handful of Asian marques, considered trash only a decade ago! Ireland will do well to move to planned obsolescence-free electrics with rechargeable, recyclable battery power, windmills, tidal, wave, technologies for fuel, and follow Denmark and Germany into the less dramatic but more stable non-nuclear future. When no longer held up in comparison to the “American Dream”, an unsustainable advertising notion to start with, life in simple humble fashion can be quite enjoyable and rewarding. This, the American folk are about to learn.

]]> By: Uncle B http://gas2.org/2008/11/30/ten-percent-of-all-vehicles-in-ireland-to-be-electric-cars-by-2020/#comment-29040 Uncle B Mon, 25 May 2009 20:17:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1328#comment-29040 As the American dollar weakens and fades from recognition, replaced on the world scene by the Chinese Yuan and the American consumer is met at the pumps by prices the huge and growing Chinese population are willing to pay to drive cars, the demise of the gasoline engine, the adaptation to diesel, and finally to electric personal transportation will expand across the U.S. Slowly at first, then driven by the falling dollar and the great repuglican depression and astounding unemployment and underemployment, poor credit and shortages of food, Americans will adopt trains, and travel less overall. They will telecommute to the few jobs available, pick and grow their own fruit and veggies for sustainance and employment, and build huge walls to keep Mexicans and other migrant workers away. Here in the post WWII, pre-Chinese Dynasty era, the mighty "Yankee Doodle" and his wild-eyed "American Dream" have hit the wall of reality, and with the rising price of oil, falling domestic productivity, and the crash to come - financial derivatives, the example they will set before the world will be one of subdued practicality and sensible survival in face of almost insurmountable debt and unsateable appetites for all forbidden fruits. The internal turmoil has already begun, with the demise of first, the mighty Chrysler cars, and now, GM the granddaddy of the American economy, dashed to bankruptcy by a handful of Asian marques, considered trash only a decade ago! Ireland will do well to move to planned obsolescence-free electrics with rechargeable, recyclable battery power, windmills, tidal, wave, technologies for fuel, and follow Denmark and Germany into the less dramatic but more stable non-nuclear future. When no longer held up in comparison to the "American Dream", an unsustainable advertising notion to start with, life in simple humble fashion can be quite enjoyable and rewarding. This, the American folk are about to learn. As the American dollar weakens and fades from recognition, replaced on the world scene by the Chinese Yuan and the American consumer is met at the pumps by prices the huge and growing Chinese population are willing to pay to drive cars, the demise of the gasoline engine, the adaptation to diesel, and finally to electric personal transportation will expand across the U.S. Slowly at first, then driven by the falling dollar and the great repuglican depression and astounding unemployment and underemployment, poor credit and shortages of food, Americans will adopt trains, and travel less overall. They will telecommute to the few jobs available, pick and grow their own fruit and veggies for sustainance and employment, and build huge walls to keep Mexicans and other migrant workers away. Here in the post WWII, pre-Chinese Dynasty era, the mighty “Yankee Doodle” and his wild-eyed “American Dream” have hit the wall of reality, and with the rising price of oil, falling domestic productivity, and the crash to come – financial derivatives, the example they will set before the world will be one of subdued practicality and sensible survival in face of almost insurmountable debt and unsateable appetites for all forbidden fruits. The internal turmoil has already begun, with the demise of first, the mighty Chrysler cars, and now, GM the granddaddy of the American economy, dashed to bankruptcy by a handful of Asian marques, considered trash only a decade ago! Ireland will do well to move to planned obsolescence-free electrics with rechargeable, recyclable battery power, windmills, tidal, wave, technologies for fuel, and follow Denmark and Germany into the less dramatic but more stable non-nuclear future. When no longer held up in comparison to the “American Dream”, an unsustainable advertising notion to start with, life in simple humble fashion can be quite enjoyable and rewarding. This, the American folk are about to learn.

]]> By: Jo http://gas2.org/2008/11/30/ten-percent-of-all-vehicles-in-ireland-to-be-electric-cars-by-2020/#comment-6981 Jo Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:02:09 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1328#comment-6981 Doug, speaking as someone with 2 cars (plus!) I can tell you that how many cars one owns doesn't really make them an energy whore. 1. driving a huge, 7 passenger SUV with only 1 person (you) on board makes you an energy whore. 2. driving *anything* to the corner store when you could otherwise walk/ride makes you an energy whore. 3. commuting alone on something that weighs 3000 lbs. more my Honda Ruckus scooter not only makes you a fuel whore - it's just not as much fun! Anyway - good post, agree in spirit, etc. Just don't pick on the car guys who also care, you know? ; ) Doug,

speaking as someone with 2 cars (plus!) I can tell you that how many cars one owns doesn’t really make them an energy whore.

1. driving a huge, 7 passenger SUV with only 1 person (you) on board makes you an energy whore.

2. driving *anything* to the corner store when you could otherwise walk/ride makes you an energy whore.

3. commuting alone on something that weighs 3000 lbs. more my Honda Ruckus scooter not only makes you a fuel whore – it’s just not as much fun!

Anyway – good post, agree in spirit, etc. Just don’t pick on the car guys who also care, you know?

; )

]]> By: Jo http://gas2.org/2008/11/30/ten-percent-of-all-vehicles-in-ireland-to-be-electric-cars-by-2020/#comment-29039 Jo Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:02:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1328#comment-29039 Doug, speaking as someone with 2 cars (plus!) I can tell you that how many cars one owns doesn't really make them an energy whore. 1. driving a huge, 7 passenger SUV with only 1 person (you) on board makes you an energy whore. 2. driving *anything* to the corner store when you could otherwise walk/ride makes you an energy whore. 3. commuting alone on something that weighs 3000 lbs. more my Honda Ruckus scooter not only makes you a fuel whore - it's just not as much fun! Anyway - good post, agree in spirit, etc. Just don't pick on the car guys who also care, you know? ; ) Doug,

speaking as someone with 2 cars (plus!) I can tell you that how many cars one owns doesn’t really make them an energy whore.

1. driving a huge, 7 passenger SUV with only 1 person (you) on board makes you an energy whore.

2. driving *anything* to the corner store when you could otherwise walk/ride makes you an energy whore.

3. commuting alone on something that weighs 3000 lbs. more my Honda Ruckus scooter not only makes you a fuel whore – it’s just not as much fun!

Anyway – good post, agree in spirit, etc. Just don’t pick on the car guys who also care, you know?

; )

]]> By: Bill http://gas2.org/2008/11/30/ten-percent-of-all-vehicles-in-ireland-to-be-electric-cars-by-2020/#comment-6980 Bill Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:56:57 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1328#comment-6980 I agree with Jo and DC Palmer. This is just a feel good, political stunt. It's easy to make mandates for a decade plus into the future - the politician(s) may no longer be in office and no one will remember this mandate anyway. If EV's continue to advance and drop in price like other electronic products, there won't be any need for government intervention. EV's will sell in massive numbers based on consumer preference and car manufacturers know this. They, and their suppliers, have plenty of market incentives to make EV's a viable alternative to ICE's. If, on the other hand, technology hits a wall before viability is achieved, no government mandate will make EV's attractive to consumers or manufacturers. I agree with Jo and DC Palmer. This is just a feel good, political stunt. It’s easy to make mandates for a decade plus into the future – the politician(s) may no longer be in office and no one will remember this mandate anyway. If EV’s continue to advance and drop in price like other electronic products, there won’t be any need for government intervention. EV’s will sell in massive numbers based on consumer preference and car manufacturers know this. They, and their suppliers, have plenty of market incentives to make EV’s a viable alternative to ICE’s. If, on the other hand, technology hits a wall before viability is achieved, no government mandate will make EV’s attractive to consumers or manufacturers.

]]> By: Bill http://gas2.org/2008/11/30/ten-percent-of-all-vehicles-in-ireland-to-be-electric-cars-by-2020/#comment-29038 Bill Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:56:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1328#comment-29038 I agree with Jo and DC Palmer. This is just a feel good, political stunt. It's easy to make mandates for a decade plus into the future - the politician(s) may no longer be in office and no one will remember this mandate anyway. If EV's continue to advance and drop in price like other electronic products, there won't be any need for government intervention. EV's will sell in massive numbers based on consumer preference and car manufacturers know this. They, and their suppliers, have plenty of market incentives to make EV's a viable alternative to ICE's. If, on the other hand, technology hits a wall before viability is achieved, no government mandate will make EV's attractive to consumers or manufacturers. I agree with Jo and DC Palmer. This is just a feel good, political stunt. It’s easy to make mandates for a decade plus into the future – the politician(s) may no longer be in office and no one will remember this mandate anyway. If EV’s continue to advance and drop in price like other electronic products, there won’t be any need for government intervention. EV’s will sell in massive numbers based on consumer preference and car manufacturers know this. They, and their suppliers, have plenty of market incentives to make EV’s a viable alternative to ICE’s. If, on the other hand, technology hits a wall before viability is achieved, no government mandate will make EV’s attractive to consumers or manufacturers.

]]> By: DC Palmer http://gas2.org/2008/11/30/ten-percent-of-all-vehicles-in-ireland-to-be-electric-cars-by-2020/#comment-6979 DC Palmer Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:41:23 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1328#comment-6979 I expect the free market to take us to a much higher percentage of electric vehicles and much more quickly than the author of this article proposes. I expect the free market to take us to a much higher percentage of electric vehicles and much more quickly than the author of this article proposes.

]]> By: DC Palmer http://gas2.org/2008/11/30/ten-percent-of-all-vehicles-in-ireland-to-be-electric-cars-by-2020/#comment-29037 DC Palmer Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:41:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1328#comment-29037 I expect the free market to take us to a much higher percentage of electric vehicles and much more quickly than the author of this article proposes. I expect the free market to take us to a much higher percentage of electric vehicles and much more quickly than the author of this article proposes.

]]> By: Doug http://gas2.org/2008/11/30/ten-percent-of-all-vehicles-in-ireland-to-be-electric-cars-by-2020/#comment-6978 Doug Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:40:22 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1328#comment-6978 Fuel prices are always high in Europe. Add that to the fact that they have much better mass transit and fewer cars, this idea is feasible. Until the US wakes up and realizes that everyone does not need 2 cars and starts carpooling and using mass transit we will always be energy whores. Fuel prices are always high in Europe. Add that to the fact that they have much better mass transit and fewer cars, this idea is feasible. Until the US wakes up and realizes that everyone does not need 2 cars and starts carpooling and using mass transit we will always be energy whores.

]]> By: Doug http://gas2.org/2008/11/30/ten-percent-of-all-vehicles-in-ireland-to-be-electric-cars-by-2020/#comment-29035 Doug Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:40:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1328#comment-29035 Fuel prices are always high in Europe. Add that to the fact that they have much better mass transit and fewer cars, this idea is feasible. Until the US wakes up and realizes that everyone does not need 2 cars and starts carpooling and using mass transit we will always be energy whores. Fuel prices are always high in Europe. Add that to the fact that they have much better mass transit and fewer cars, this idea is feasible. Until the US wakes up and realizes that everyone does not need 2 cars and starts carpooling and using mass transit we will always be energy whores.

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