Comments on: New GM Poll: Most Americans Support an Auto Industry Bailout http://gas2.org/2008/11/14/new-gm-poll-most-americans-support-an-auto-industry-bailout/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:40:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: employee clockin clockout http://gas2.org/2008/11/14/new-gm-poll-most-americans-support-an-auto-industry-bailout/#comment-6635 employee clockin clockout Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:48:53 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1281#comment-6635 I too conducted a poll and 100 said this comment rocks. I suspect my poll was about as impartial as the GM one. I too conducted a poll and 100 said this comment rocks. I suspect my poll was about as impartial as the GM one.

]]> By: employee clockin clockout http://gas2.org/2008/11/14/new-gm-poll-most-americans-support-an-auto-industry-bailout/#comment-28872 employee clockin clockout Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:48:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1281#comment-28872 I too conducted a poll and 100 said this comment rocks. I suspect my poll was about as impartial as the GM one. I too conducted a poll and 100 said this comment rocks. I suspect my poll was about as impartial as the GM one.

]]> By: A Edwards http://gas2.org/2008/11/14/new-gm-poll-most-americans-support-an-auto-industry-bailout/#comment-6634 A Edwards Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:24:18 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1281#comment-6634 Paying these execs a dollar a year is overpayment. I think we should get a refund of the money payed to them over the last 10 years. Where is all the profit from the past 30 years? And one thinks that a 30 billion loan is gonna be payed back, no way. It is money down a rat hole. As far as loosing 3 million jobs, that is car salesman talk. Most of us Americans are not just gonna sit on our arsh. On top of all this, it is gonna take 2 plus years just to sell the cars we have built, much less build more! Paying these execs a dollar a year is overpayment. I think we should get a refund of the money payed to them over the last 10 years. Where is all the profit from the past 30 years? And one thinks that a 30 billion loan is gonna be payed back, no way. It is money down a rat hole. As far as loosing 3 million jobs, that is car salesman talk. Most of us Americans are not just gonna sit on our arsh. On top of all this, it is gonna take 2 plus years just to sell the cars we have built, much less build more!

]]> By: A Edwards http://gas2.org/2008/11/14/new-gm-poll-most-americans-support-an-auto-industry-bailout/#comment-28871 A Edwards Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:24:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1281#comment-28871 Paying these execs a dollar a year is overpayment. I think we should get a refund of the money payed to them over the last 10 years. Where is all the profit from the past 30 years? And one thinks that a 30 billion loan is gonna be payed back, no way. It is money down a rat hole. As far as loosing 3 million jobs, that is car salesman talk. Most of us Americans are not just gonna sit on our arsh. On top of all this, it is gonna take 2 plus years just to sell the cars we have built, much less build more! Paying these execs a dollar a year is overpayment. I think we should get a refund of the money payed to them over the last 10 years. Where is all the profit from the past 30 years? And one thinks that a 30 billion loan is gonna be payed back, no way. It is money down a rat hole. As far as loosing 3 million jobs, that is car salesman talk. Most of us Americans are not just gonna sit on our arsh. On top of all this, it is gonna take 2 plus years just to sell the cars we have built, much less build more!

]]> By: A Edwards http://gas2.org/2008/11/14/new-gm-poll-most-americans-support-an-auto-industry-bailout/#comment-6633 A Edwards Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:12:18 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1281#comment-6633 I am unsure how this poll was done, but I have yet found anyone for the GM bailout. Most say heck no, not just no. Thinking about bailing out GM makes me ill. Please count my VOTE as NO! to bailing out GM. I am unsure how this poll was done, but I have yet found anyone for the GM bailout. Most say heck no, not just no. Thinking about bailing out GM makes me ill. Please count my VOTE as NO! to bailing out GM.

]]> By: A Edwards http://gas2.org/2008/11/14/new-gm-poll-most-americans-support-an-auto-industry-bailout/#comment-28870 A Edwards Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:12:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1281#comment-28870 I am unsure how this poll was done, but I have yet found anyone for the GM bailout. Most say heck no, not just no. Thinking about bailing out GM makes me ill. Please count my VOTE as NO! to bailing out GM. I am unsure how this poll was done, but I have yet found anyone for the GM bailout. Most say heck no, not just no. Thinking about bailing out GM makes me ill. Please count my VOTE as NO! to bailing out GM.

]]> By: lance http://gas2.org/2008/11/14/new-gm-poll-most-americans-support-an-auto-industry-bailout/#comment-6632 lance Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:58:10 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1281#comment-6632 DUH a poll by GM Like you should trust that one. I got one of there email, No I'm not a loyal customer. No i will not buy a big 3 product now. Not because they are going under but because there products arent that good and all the UAW demands and over paid labor. DUH a poll by GM Like you should trust that one.

I got one of there email, No I’m not a loyal customer.

No i will not buy a big 3 product now. Not because

they are going under but because there products arent

that good and all the UAW demands and over paid labor.

]]> By: lance http://gas2.org/2008/11/14/new-gm-poll-most-americans-support-an-auto-industry-bailout/#comment-28869 lance Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:58:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1281#comment-28869 DUH a poll by GM Like you should trust that one. I got one of there email, No I'm not a loyal customer. No i will not buy a big 3 product now. Not because they are going under but because there products arent that good and all the UAW demands and over paid labor. DUH a poll by GM Like you should trust that one.

I got one of there email, No I’m not a loyal customer.

No i will not buy a big 3 product now. Not because

they are going under but because there products arent

that good and all the UAW demands and over paid labor.

]]> By: Parker http://gas2.org/2008/11/14/new-gm-poll-most-americans-support-an-auto-industry-bailout/#comment-6631 Parker Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:49:55 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1281#comment-6631 There are a great deal of misconceptions and uninformed statments made in this post. Here is a list that every anti-bailout poster should keep in mind. Before I get to it, the union absolutely needs to agree to competitive wages and benefits or hit the road. 1. U.S. annual auto sales were stable at 16M units per year. Then, within a small window of time, they dropped to 12M. This has nothing to do with the Big 3, just the economy in general. Very few markets can support all players in the industry after a sudden 25% reduction in their potential market. 2. There are many auto companies globally currently seeking bailouts (i.e. Europe). Forget the notion that the Big 3 are the only ones struggling. 3. The Japanese are "bailed out" on a daily basis. Their government intervenes in foreign money markets regularly to ensure the Yen remains attractive relative to the dollar, which is the only reason they can turn a profit in the US. I also believe that medical benefits are subsidized by the govt. in Japan. 4. GM makes more 30+MPG cars than any other auto maker, and their quality ratings are every bit that of Toyota and Honda on their newer vehicles. Forget the past, the same way you have forgotten the time when the Japanese cars were a joke, and realize the Big 3 are putting out quality products once more. 5. Many of your beloved Toyotas have a GM equivalent. By this I mean that there is actually a factory shared by GM and Toyota in the US that pumps out identical cars with either a GM or Toyota badge. (i.e. Matrix and Vibe). 6. Non-plugin hybrid technology is a joke that many of the posters on this site have been duped in to. The batteries in these vehicles will become the scurge of the earth, when they are not properly disposed of, and the factories they are produced in make Chernoble look cozy. To top it all off, there are plenty of gasoline only powertrains out there that blow hybrids away in terms of MPG. WAKE UP AND RESEARCH!!!! 7. Finally, be honest with yourselves. Yes, there are many flaws with the Big 3, as there are with any big company. Think about a 25% loss in the overall market over almost no time and think about if the industry each of you work in could sustain such a loss. There are a great deal of misconceptions and uninformed statments made in this post. Here is a list that every anti-bailout poster should keep in mind. Before I get to it, the union absolutely needs to agree to competitive wages and benefits or hit the road.

1. U.S. annual auto sales were stable at 16M units per year. Then, within a small window of time, they dropped to 12M. This has nothing to do with the Big 3, just the economy in general. Very few markets can support all players in the industry after a sudden 25% reduction in their potential market.

2. There are many auto companies globally currently seeking bailouts (i.e. Europe). Forget the notion that the Big 3 are the only ones struggling.

3. The Japanese are “bailed out” on a daily basis. Their government intervenes in foreign money markets regularly to ensure the Yen remains attractive relative to the dollar, which is the only reason they can turn a profit in the US. I also believe that medical benefits are subsidized by the govt. in Japan.

4. GM makes more 30+MPG cars than any other auto maker, and their quality ratings are every bit that of Toyota and Honda on their newer vehicles. Forget the past, the same way you have forgotten the time when the Japanese cars were a joke, and realize the Big 3 are putting out quality products once more.

5. Many of your beloved Toyotas have a GM equivalent. By this I mean that there is actually a factory shared by GM and Toyota in the US that pumps out identical cars with either a GM or Toyota badge. (i.e. Matrix and Vibe).

6. Non-plugin hybrid technology is a joke that many of the posters on this site have been duped in to. The batteries in these vehicles will become the scurge of the earth, when they are not properly disposed of, and the factories they are produced in make Chernoble look cozy. To top it all off, there are plenty of gasoline only powertrains out there that blow hybrids away in terms of MPG. WAKE UP AND RESEARCH!!!!

7. Finally, be honest with yourselves. Yes, there are many flaws with the Big 3, as there are with any big company. Think about a 25% loss in the overall market over almost no time and think about if the industry each of you work in could sustain such a loss.

]]> By: Parker http://gas2.org/2008/11/14/new-gm-poll-most-americans-support-an-auto-industry-bailout/#comment-28868 Parker Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:49:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=1281#comment-28868 There are a great deal of misconceptions and uninformed statments made in this post. Here is a list that every anti-bailout poster should keep in mind. Before I get to it, the union absolutely needs to agree to competitive wages and benefits or hit the road. 1. U.S. annual auto sales were stable at 16M units per year. Then, within a small window of time, they dropped to 12M. This has nothing to do with the Big 3, just the economy in general. Very few markets can support all players in the industry after a sudden 25% reduction in their potential market. 2. There are many auto companies globally currently seeking bailouts (i.e. Europe). Forget the notion that the Big 3 are the only ones struggling. 3. The Japanese are "bailed out" on a daily basis. Their government intervenes in foreign money markets regularly to ensure the Yen remains attractive relative to the dollar, which is the only reason they can turn a profit in the US. I also believe that medical benefits are subsidized by the govt. in Japan. 4. GM makes more 30+MPG cars than any other auto maker, and their quality ratings are every bit that of Toyota and Honda on their newer vehicles. Forget the past, the same way you have forgotten the time when the Japanese cars were a joke, and realize the Big 3 are putting out quality products once more. 5. Many of your beloved Toyotas have a GM equivalent. By this I mean that there is actually a factory shared by GM and Toyota in the US that pumps out identical cars with either a GM or Toyota badge. (i.e. Matrix and Vibe). 6. Non-plugin hybrid technology is a joke that many of the posters on this site have been duped in to. The batteries in these vehicles will become the scurge of the earth, when they are not properly disposed of, and the factories they are produced in make Chernoble look cozy. To top it all off, there are plenty of gasoline only powertrains out there that blow hybrids away in terms of MPG. WAKE UP AND RESEARCH!!!! 7. Finally, be honest with yourselves. Yes, there are many flaws with the Big 3, as there are with any big company. Think about a 25% loss in the overall market over almost no time and think about if the industry each of you work in could sustain such a loss. There are a great deal of misconceptions and uninformed statments made in this post. Here is a list that every anti-bailout poster should keep in mind. Before I get to it, the union absolutely needs to agree to competitive wages and benefits or hit the road.

1. U.S. annual auto sales were stable at 16M units per year. Then, within a small window of time, they dropped to 12M. This has nothing to do with the Big 3, just the economy in general. Very few markets can support all players in the industry after a sudden 25% reduction in their potential market.

2. There are many auto companies globally currently seeking bailouts (i.e. Europe). Forget the notion that the Big 3 are the only ones struggling.

3. The Japanese are “bailed out” on a daily basis. Their government intervenes in foreign money markets regularly to ensure the Yen remains attractive relative to the dollar, which is the only reason they can turn a profit in the US. I also believe that medical benefits are subsidized by the govt. in Japan.

4. GM makes more 30+MPG cars than any other auto maker, and their quality ratings are every bit that of Toyota and Honda on their newer vehicles. Forget the past, the same way you have forgotten the time when the Japanese cars were a joke, and realize the Big 3 are putting out quality products once more.

5. Many of your beloved Toyotas have a GM equivalent. By this I mean that there is actually a factory shared by GM and Toyota in the US that pumps out identical cars with either a GM or Toyota badge. (i.e. Matrix and Vibe).

6. Non-plugin hybrid technology is a joke that many of the posters on this site have been duped in to. The batteries in these vehicles will become the scurge of the earth, when they are not properly disposed of, and the factories they are produced in make Chernoble look cozy. To top it all off, there are plenty of gasoline only powertrains out there that blow hybrids away in terms of MPG. WAKE UP AND RESEARCH!!!!

7. Finally, be honest with yourselves. Yes, there are many flaws with the Big 3, as there are with any big company. Think about a 25% loss in the overall market over almost no time and think about if the industry each of you work in could sustain such a loss.

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