Comments on: GM's $1.5 Million Hydrogen Fuel-Cell Vehicle: Won't Be Available for At Least 10 Years http://gas2.org/2008/09/15/general-motors-new-15-million-dollar-hydrogen-vehicle/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:57:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: socko http://gas2.org/2008/09/15/general-motors-new-15-million-dollar-hydrogen-vehicle/#comment-19302 socko Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:55:14 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=920#comment-19302 while you wait for hydrogen infrastructure i'm sure the powers that be (big oil) are actively planning to control that commodity as well. No one controls how i charge my electric car once the solar panels are in place. and conversion of cars to EV is so accessible that that's in our hands as well. no wonder they've been fighting these so desperately! cheers, a happy EV converter/owner/driver with 7000 EV miles and counting while you wait for hydrogen infrastructure i’m sure the powers that be (big oil) are actively planning to control that commodity as well. No one controls how i charge my electric car once the solar panels are in place. and conversion of cars to EV is so accessible that that’s in our hands as well. no wonder they’ve been fighting these so desperately!

cheers,
a happy EV converter/owner/driver with 7000 EV miles and counting

]]> By: GM Could Cut Fuel Cell Development : Gas 2.0 http://gas2.org/2008/09/15/general-motors-new-15-million-dollar-hydrogen-vehicle/#comment-4490 GM Could Cut Fuel Cell Development : Gas 2.0 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:13:18 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=920#comment-4490 [...] cell research center in Honeoye Falls, about 20 minutes south of the city. That center has been developing a fuel cell SUV based on the Chevy Equinox. Test models of the car have attracted considerable attention, and been [...] [...] cell research center in Honeoye Falls, about 20 minutes south of the city. That center has been developing a fuel cell SUV based on the Chevy Equinox. Test models of the car have attracted considerable attention, and been [...]

]]> By: chuck http://gas2.org/2008/09/15/general-motors-new-15-million-dollar-hydrogen-vehicle/#comment-4489 chuck Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:24:47 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=920#comment-4489 So that's how far behind GM is? 10 years? No wonder their stock is in the toilet. So that’s how far behind GM is? 10 years? No wonder their stock is in the toilet.

]]> By: chuck http://gas2.org/2008/09/15/general-motors-new-15-million-dollar-hydrogen-vehicle/#comment-26951 chuck Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:24:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=920#comment-26951 So that's how far behind GM is? 10 years? No wonder their stock is in the toilet. So that’s how far behind GM is? 10 years? No wonder their stock is in the toilet.

]]> By: boonies http://gas2.org/2008/09/15/general-motors-new-15-million-dollar-hydrogen-vehicle/#comment-4488 boonies Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:42:59 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=920#comment-4488 doesnt Sanford Ovshinsky the inventor drive a Toyota Prius Hybrid which he claims he converted to run on H2 instead of petrol?...using a solid state tank to store the H2 fuel NOT high pressure tanks &such...why is this seen as so far off??? doesnt Sanford Ovshinsky the inventor drive a Toyota Prius Hybrid which he claims he converted to run on H2 instead of petrol?…using a solid state tank to store the H2 fuel NOT high pressure tanks &such…why is this seen as so far off???

]]> By: boonies http://gas2.org/2008/09/15/general-motors-new-15-million-dollar-hydrogen-vehicle/#comment-26949 boonies Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:42:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=920#comment-26949 doesnt Sanford Ovshinsky the inventor drive a Toyota Prius Hybrid which he claims he converted to run on H2 instead of petrol?...using a solid state tank to store the H2 fuel NOT high pressure tanks &such...why is this seen as so far off??? doesnt Sanford Ovshinsky the inventor drive a Toyota Prius Hybrid which he claims he converted to run on H2 instead of petrol?…using a solid state tank to store the H2 fuel NOT high pressure tanks &such…why is this seen as so far off???

]]> By: boonies http://gas2.org/2008/09/15/general-motors-new-15-million-dollar-hydrogen-vehicle/#comment-26950 boonies Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:42:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=920#comment-26950 doesnt Sanford Ovshinsky the inventor drive a Toyota Prius Hybrid which he claims he converted to run on H2 instead of petrol?...using a solid state tank to store the H2 fuel NOT high pressure tanks &such...why is this seen as so far off??? doesnt Sanford Ovshinsky the inventor drive a Toyota Prius Hybrid which he claims he converted to run on H2 instead of petrol?…using a solid state tank to store the H2 fuel NOT high pressure tanks &such…why is this seen as so far off???

]]> By: J Keefer http://gas2.org/2008/09/15/general-motors-new-15-million-dollar-hydrogen-vehicle/#comment-4487 J Keefer Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:41:14 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=920#comment-4487 1.5 Million to produce?? Production advances and economies of scale will address that issue. The cost of the fuel cell is no more than the cost of the battery packs in the Volt, so this cost is clearly being used as a scare tactic since these unites were likely hand crafted. GM is obviously too bloated to get the job done right. Toyota has a FC vehicle that has a 600 mile range and surely they don't cost 1.5 Million. GM is using scare tactics and stalling as much as they can to keep sucking on Big Oil Teet. You can convert an internal combsution engine to run on H2, since the 70's. This first step would legitimize the installation of H2 refueling stations. As USA falls further in debt and behind in technology, Europe is contracting to install H2 stations all around Germany with the support of BMW, Mercedes Benz and others. Since GM is about to go bankrupt, I guess their opinion doesn't matter anymore anyway. what a symbol of failure for the nation - All to keep those oil profits rolling. Seems like a high price...surely more than 1.5 Million. 1.5 Million to produce?? Production advances and economies of scale will address that issue. The cost of the fuel cell is no more than the cost of the battery packs in the Volt, so this cost is clearly being used as a scare tactic since these unites were likely hand crafted. GM is obviously too bloated to get the job done right.

Toyota has a FC vehicle that has a 600 mile range and surely they don’t cost 1.5 Million. GM is using scare tactics and stalling as much as they can to keep sucking on Big Oil Teet.

You can convert an internal combsution engine to run on H2, since the 70′s. This first step would legitimize the installation of H2 refueling stations. As USA falls further in debt and behind in technology, Europe is contracting to install H2 stations all around Germany with the support of BMW, Mercedes Benz and others.

Since GM is about to go bankrupt, I guess their opinion doesn’t matter anymore anyway. what a symbol of failure for the nation – All to keep those oil profits rolling. Seems like a high price…surely more than 1.5 Million.

]]> By: J Keefer http://gas2.org/2008/09/15/general-motors-new-15-million-dollar-hydrogen-vehicle/#comment-26948 J Keefer Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:41:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=920#comment-26948 1.5 Million to produce?? Production advances and economies of scale will address that issue. The cost of the fuel cell is no more than the cost of the battery packs in the Volt, so this cost is clearly being used as a scare tactic since these unites were likely hand crafted. GM is obviously too bloated to get the job done right. Toyota has a FC vehicle that has a 600 mile range and surely they don't cost 1.5 Million. GM is using scare tactics and stalling as much as they can to keep sucking on Big Oil Teet. You can convert an internal combsution engine to run on H2, since the 70's. This first step would legitimize the installation of H2 refueling stations. As USA falls further in debt and behind in technology, Europe is contracting to install H2 stations all around Germany with the support of BMW, Mercedes Benz and others. Since GM is about to go bankrupt, I guess their opinion doesn't matter anymore anyway. what a symbol of failure for the nation - All to keep those oil profits rolling. Seems like a high price...surely more than 1.5 Million. 1.5 Million to produce?? Production advances and economies of scale will address that issue. The cost of the fuel cell is no more than the cost of the battery packs in the Volt, so this cost is clearly being used as a scare tactic since these unites were likely hand crafted. GM is obviously too bloated to get the job done right.

Toyota has a FC vehicle that has a 600 mile range and surely they don’t cost 1.5 Million. GM is using scare tactics and stalling as much as they can to keep sucking on Big Oil Teet.

You can convert an internal combsution engine to run on H2, since the 70′s. This first step would legitimize the installation of H2 refueling stations. As USA falls further in debt and behind in technology, Europe is contracting to install H2 stations all around Germany with the support of BMW, Mercedes Benz and others.

Since GM is about to go bankrupt, I guess their opinion doesn’t matter anymore anyway. what a symbol of failure for the nation – All to keep those oil profits rolling. Seems like a high price…surely more than 1.5 Million.

]]> By: Skeptic http://gas2.org/2008/09/15/general-motors-new-15-million-dollar-hydrogen-vehicle/#comment-4486 Skeptic Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:31:36 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=920#comment-4486 When you started off a "news story" with Global warming makes hurricanes worse you lost me. EVERY serious expert says it is not happening. The technical problems of storage, and distribution make the manufacturing problems of hydrogen seem quite small. When you started off a “news story” with Global warming makes hurricanes worse you lost me. EVERY serious expert says it is not happening. The technical problems of storage, and distribution make the manufacturing problems of hydrogen seem quite small.

]]>