It requires large amounts of chemical fertilizers and pesticides, which cause apoxia in the gulf of Mexico (the Dead Zone)

It requires fossil fuels to create those fertilizers and pesticides.

It requires machinery for harvesting, transporting, and distilling that uses fossil fuels.

The alcohol conversion compared to sugar cane is extremely low. It makes more sense for tropical countries where sugar cane can be grown, but not for our temperate climate.

It is subsidized by government (tax payers). The real cost of creating it and the harm to the environment may not be worth it at all.

Look into solar, wind, fuel vehicle efficiencies, mass transportation, algae fuels, and for those daring maybe Tesla free energy models.

It requires large amounts of chemical fertilizers and pesticides, which cause apoxia in the gulf of Mexico (the Dead Zone)

It requires fossil fuels to create those fertilizers and pesticides.

It requires machinery for harvesting, transporting, and distilling that uses fossil fuels.

The alcohol conversion compared to sugar cane is extremely low. It makes more sense for tropical countries where sugar cane can be grown, but not for our temperate climate.

It is subsidized by government (tax payers). The real cost of creating it and the harm to the environment may not be worth it at all.

Look into solar, wind, fuel vehicle efficiencies, mass transportation, algae fuels, and for those daring maybe Tesla free energy models.

THEY ARE DECREASING THE SUPPLY OF THE BYPASSED CROPS, AND THUS INCREASE THE PRICE. SIGNIFICANTLY.

THEY ARE DECREASING THE SUPPLY OF THE BYPASSED CROPS, AND THUS INCREASE THE PRICE. SIGNIFICANTLY.

Corn ethanol is terrible for the environment as well as the economy.

Yes, there is increasing demand for it, strictly due to the fact that people are ignorant, and are not given any other options.

Would you top off your tank with corn ethanol if you knew the crazy amount of energy involved in rendering it useful, as well as the fact that it takes food off the plates of those who are unable to, say, fill up a car gas tank with corn-juice?

Looks like McDonalds again, kids.

But don’t worry, that stuff is full of corn crap too!

We have wayyy to much corn being grown, like it or not, know it or not. The effects of such horrible policy, without any eye towards the future, are not visible unless you know where to look.

Globally, commodity prices have skyrocketed, as we export less and less corn, all while growing more and more of the stuff for a market that has been artificially sponsored from the start by government special interest.

Besides all of this, corn is causing deadly-serious health problems across the country.

YAYY DIABETES!

Corn ethanol is terrible for the environment as well as the economy.

Yes, there is increasing demand for it, strictly due to the fact that people are ignorant, and are not given any other options.

Would you top off your tank with corn ethanol if you knew the crazy amount of energy involved in rendering it useful, as well as the fact that it takes food off the plates of those who are unable to, say, fill up a car gas tank with corn-juice?

Looks like McDonalds again, kids.

But don’t worry, that stuff is full of corn crap too!

We have wayyy to much corn being grown, like it or not, know it or not. The effects of such horrible policy, without any eye towards the future, are not visible unless you know where to look.

Globally, commodity prices have skyrocketed, as we export less and less corn, all while growing more and more of the stuff for a market that has been artificially sponsored from the start by government special interest.

Besides all of this, corn is causing deadly-serious health problems across the country.

YAYY DIABETES!

Biodiesel is a significant fuel with high BTUs, but it is Not superior to ethanol, which has high octane and is water soluable. These are the words of Phil Ratte, Mechanical Engineer, BME University of Minnesota: “From 1981 to 1989, I worked with Herb Hansen, who had been an engineer on a WW II submarine, and a former captain of a nuclear submarine. We developed two prototype cars, a Ford Pinto Station Wagon and a Mitsubishi Sedan, that ran as well on 65 proof ethanol, 2/3 water and 1/3 ethanol, as they did on unleaded regular gas.” Try that with biodeisel fuel.

Researchers at Solazyme have devised a way to grow algae without sunlight, by feeding them sugar in fermentation tanks. This is something that could possibly be adapted to corn ethanol refineries, with the corn sugar feeding algae in adjacent tanks. Algae being cultivated on the waste products of corn ethanol: CO2, nutrient rich waste water (aka: thin stillage), production gas exhaust, and waste heat. All the elements are there. The prolific growth rate of sugar fed algae would leverage corn sugar into 10 or more times the amount of biofuels and byproducts. Then the oil rich algae would be processed into cheap biodiesel sold back to local farmers, ethanol for local and regional distribution, biogas for plant production power, co-generated electric power for the local grid, and high protein algae animal feed to sell along side distillers grains. Imagine if you could replace all imported oil by integrating onsite algae production into the existing corn ethanol industry.

The corn ethanol industry is still evolving. It’s becoming cleaner, more efficient, and more cost effective. Less than half of the corn kernel is used to make ethanol, only the starch. The other half is made into distillers grain, which is fed to animals to produce food. It is also possible to make distillers grains into high protein foods for direct human consumption. Corn ethanol is food and fuel and always has been.

No body is starving because the starch is being removed from one third of the feed corn crop. We fulfill all of the corn used for direct human consumption, which is a rather small percentage. What has thrown the cost of corn way out of whack is the high cost of transportation fuels. When corn is shipped long distance or exported, the transportation cost is a bigger factor than the cost of the product itself.

America is a nation plagued by over consumption. If you are overeating, consider this: You too are contributing to the higher demand for food and impacting the price. While Americans are stuffing their faces, less fortunate people are starving. Everyone get down to your ideal weight. That will drop your food bill and solve world hunger faster than anything.

Biodiesel is a significant fuel with high BTUs, but it is Not superior to ethanol, which has high octane and is water soluable. These are the words of Phil Ratte, Mechanical Engineer, BME University of Minnesota: “From 1981 to 1989, I worked with Herb Hansen, who had been an engineer on a WW II submarine, and a former captain of a nuclear submarine. We developed two prototype cars, a Ford Pinto Station Wagon and a Mitsubishi Sedan, that ran as well on 65 proof ethanol, 2/3 water and 1/3 ethanol, as they did on unleaded regular gas.” Try that with biodeisel fuel.

Researchers at Solazyme have devised a way to grow algae without sunlight, by feeding them sugar in fermentation tanks. This is something that could possibly be adapted to corn ethanol refineries, with the corn sugar feeding algae in adjacent tanks. Algae being cultivated on the waste products of corn ethanol: CO2, nutrient rich waste water (aka: thin stillage), production gas exhaust, and waste heat. All the elements are there. The prolific growth rate of sugar fed algae would leverage corn sugar into 10 or more times the amount of biofuels and byproducts. Then the oil rich algae would be processed into cheap biodiesel sold back to local farmers, ethanol for local and regional distribution, biogas for plant production power, co-generated electric power for the local grid, and high protein algae animal feed to sell along side distillers grains. Imagine if you could replace all imported oil by integrating onsite algae production into the existing corn ethanol industry.

The corn ethanol industry is still evolving. It’s becoming cleaner, more efficient, and more cost effective. Less than half of the corn kernel is used to make ethanol, only the starch. The other half is made into distillers grain, which is fed to animals to produce food. It is also possible to make distillers grains into high protein foods for direct human consumption. Corn ethanol is food and fuel and always has been.

No body is starving because the starch is being removed from one third of the feed corn crop. We fulfill all of the corn used for direct human consumption, which is a rather small percentage. What has thrown the cost of corn way out of whack is the high cost of transportation fuels. When corn is shipped long distance or exported, the transportation cost is a bigger factor than the cost of the product itself.

America is a nation plagued by over consumption. If you are overeating, consider this: You too are contributing to the higher demand for food and impacting the price. While Americans are stuffing their faces, less fortunate people are starving. Everyone get down to your ideal weight. That will drop your food bill and solve world hunger faster than anything.

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