Comments on: Furfural May Be the Future of Easy and Cheap Biofuels http://gas2.org/2008/08/11/furfural-may-be-the-future-of-easy-and-cheap-biofuels/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:57:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: George A. J. Homolka http://gas2.org/2008/08/11/furfural-may-be-the-future-of-easy-and-cheap-biofuels/#comment-4637 George A. J. Homolka Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:09:35 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=795#comment-4637 The only biproduct of Mascal - Niktin process is water. The only biproduct of Mascal – Niktin process is water.

]]> By: George A. J. Homolka http://gas2.org/2008/08/11/furfural-may-be-the-future-of-easy-and-cheap-biofuels/#comment-26348 George A. J. Homolka Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:09:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=795#comment-26348 The only biproduct of Mascal - Niktin process is water. The only biproduct of Mascal – Niktin process is water.

]]> By: George A. J. Homolka http://gas2.org/2008/08/11/furfural-may-be-the-future-of-easy-and-cheap-biofuels/#comment-4636 George A. J. Homolka Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:04:49 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=795#comment-4636 Hydrochloric acid can be recycled and contained within Mascal - Niktin process. When ethanol is added to CMF 5-chloromethyl furfural HCl is released and can be recycled back to the first reactor where is can once again change celulose to CMF 5-chloromethyl furfural. Adding ethanol to CMF produces ethoxymethyl furfural presently a diesel additive but a future Furanic diesel fuel. George Hydrochloric acid can be recycled and contained within Mascal – Niktin process. When ethanol is added to CMF 5-chloromethyl furfural HCl is released and can be recycled back to the first reactor where is can once again change celulose to CMF 5-chloromethyl furfural. Adding ethanol to CMF produces ethoxymethyl furfural presently a diesel additive but a future Furanic diesel fuel.

George

]]> By: George A. J. Homolka http://gas2.org/2008/08/11/furfural-may-be-the-future-of-easy-and-cheap-biofuels/#comment-26347 George A. J. Homolka Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:04:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=795#comment-26347 Hydrochloric acid can be recycled and contained within Mascal - Niktin process. When ethanol is added to CMF 5-chloromethyl furfural HCl is released and can be recycled back to the first reactor where is can once again change celulose to CMF 5-chloromethyl furfural. Adding ethanol to CMF produces ethoxymethyl furfural presently a diesel additive but a future Furanic diesel fuel. George Hydrochloric acid can be recycled and contained within Mascal – Niktin process. When ethanol is added to CMF 5-chloromethyl furfural HCl is released and can be recycled back to the first reactor where is can once again change celulose to CMF 5-chloromethyl furfural. Adding ethanol to CMF produces ethoxymethyl furfural presently a diesel additive but a future Furanic diesel fuel.

George

]]> By: PlanetThoughts.org http://gas2.org/2008/08/11/furfural-may-be-the-future-of-easy-and-cheap-biofuels/#comment-4635 PlanetThoughts.org Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:04:05 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=795#comment-4635 Thank you for clarifying, Mark. Since it does involve hydrochloric acid, however, that needs to be evaluated for impact, so I don't think it is quite toxic-free. It would come down to relative quantities etc. Thank you for clarifying, Mark. Since it does involve hydrochloric acid, however, that needs to be evaluated for impact, so I don’t think it is quite toxic-free. It would come down to relative quantities etc.

]]> By: PlanetThoughts.org http://gas2.org/2008/08/11/furfural-may-be-the-future-of-easy-and-cheap-biofuels/#comment-26346 PlanetThoughts.org Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:04:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=795#comment-26346 Thank you for clarifying, Mark. Since it does involve hydrochloric acid, however, that needs to be evaluated for impact, so I don't think it is quite toxic-free. It would come down to relative quantities etc. Thank you for clarifying, Mark. Since it does involve hydrochloric acid, however, that needs to be evaluated for impact, so I don’t think it is quite toxic-free. It would come down to relative quantities etc.

]]> By: Mark http://gas2.org/2008/08/11/furfural-may-be-the-future-of-easy-and-cheap-biofuels/#comment-4634 Mark Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:15:05 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=795#comment-4634 If you read the paper, you'll see no toxic products are involved. The paper does not describe furfural itself, but substituted furfurals, some of which are present in foods. Using waste cellulose to produce biofuel cheaply and efficiently looks like it could be a home run to me. If you read the paper, you’ll see no toxic products are involved. The paper does not describe furfural itself, but substituted furfurals, some of which are present in foods. Using waste cellulose to produce biofuel cheaply and efficiently looks like it could be a home run to me.

]]> By: Mark http://gas2.org/2008/08/11/furfural-may-be-the-future-of-easy-and-cheap-biofuels/#comment-26345 Mark Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:15:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=795#comment-26345 If you read the paper, you'll see no toxic products are involved. The paper does not describe furfural itself, but substituted furfurals, some of which are present in foods. Using waste cellulose to produce biofuel cheaply and efficiently looks like it could be a home run to me. If you read the paper, you’ll see no toxic products are involved. The paper does not describe furfural itself, but substituted furfurals, some of which are present in foods. Using waste cellulose to produce biofuel cheaply and efficiently looks like it could be a home run to me.

]]> By: PlanetThoughts.org http://gas2.org/2008/08/11/furfural-may-be-the-future-of-easy-and-cheap-biofuels/#comment-4633 PlanetThoughts.org Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:43:20 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=795#comment-4633 Apparently it is worse than just the hydrochloric acid. There are some discussions at Digg - for example, this summary statement: "Furfural is a dangerous organic compound that is toxic to humans. When heated, it turns into formaldehyde, which is also toxic to humans." The original paper also talks about various issues with toxicity, so this is not a home run. It still seems that wide use of wind and sun may be more beneficial, but I am willing to see attempts at non-food, non-farmland energy production if it is also non-toxic... but we are not there yet by a long shot. Apparently it is worse than just the hydrochloric acid. There are some discussions at Digg – for example, this summary statement: “Furfural is a dangerous organic compound that is toxic to humans. When heated, it turns into formaldehyde, which is also toxic to humans.” The original paper also talks about various issues with toxicity, so this is not a home run. It still seems that wide use of wind and sun may be more beneficial, but I am willing to see attempts at non-food, non-farmland energy production if it is also non-toxic… but we are not there yet by a long shot.

]]> By: PlanetThoughts.org http://gas2.org/2008/08/11/furfural-may-be-the-future-of-easy-and-cheap-biofuels/#comment-26344 PlanetThoughts.org Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:43:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=795#comment-26344 Apparently it is worse than just the hydrochloric acid. There are some discussions at Digg - for example, this summary statement: "Furfural is a dangerous organic compound that is toxic to humans. When heated, it turns into formaldehyde, which is also toxic to humans." The original paper also talks about various issues with toxicity, so this is not a home run. It still seems that wide use of wind and sun may be more beneficial, but I am willing to see attempts at non-food, non-farmland energy production if it is also non-toxic... but we are not there yet by a long shot. Apparently it is worse than just the hydrochloric acid. There are some discussions at Digg – for example, this summary statement: “Furfural is a dangerous organic compound that is toxic to humans. When heated, it turns into formaldehyde, which is also toxic to humans.” The original paper also talks about various issues with toxicity, so this is not a home run. It still seems that wide use of wind and sun may be more beneficial, but I am willing to see attempts at non-food, non-farmland energy production if it is also non-toxic… but we are not there yet by a long shot.

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