Comments on: Low Impact Living: Hypermiling — My Mileage is Better than Your Mileage http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/ What is the future of fuel? What's new? What's next? Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction. Thu, 24 May 2012 21:04:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: ChuckL http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/#comment-3271 ChuckL Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:59:23 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=575#comment-3271 Back in the fifties, BMW advocated acceleration at about 2/3 throttle and shifting early as a way to save fuel. It seems that their experiments had proven that the near wide open throttle reduced the "pumping losses" that are inherent in gasoline engines saving more fuel than was used by the throttle position. The procedure also called for shifting at low RPMs, definitely below peak torque. At that time this was generally less than 2000RPM. Of course at that time most cars were manual transmissions. With an automatic the transmission simply won't upshift, which defeats this proven technique. Back in the fifties, BMW advocated acceleration at about 2/3 throttle and shifting early as a way to save fuel. It seems that their experiments had proven that the near wide open throttle reduced the “pumping losses” that are inherent in gasoline engines saving more fuel than was used by the throttle position. The procedure also called for shifting at low RPMs, definitely below peak torque. At that time this was generally less than 2000RPM.

Of course at that time most cars were manual transmissions. With an automatic the transmission simply won’t upshift, which defeats this proven technique.

]]> By: ChuckL http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/#comment-24890 ChuckL Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:59:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=575#comment-24890 Back in the fifties, BMW advocated acceleration at about 2/3 throttle and shifting early as a way to save fuel. It seems that their experiments had proven that the near wide open throttle reduced the "pumping losses" that are inherent in gasoline engines saving more fuel than was used by the throttle position. The procedure also called for shifting at low RPMs, definitely below peak torque. At that time this was generally less than 2000RPM. Of course at that time most cars were manual transmissions. With an automatic the transmission simply won't upshift, which defeats this proven technique. Back in the fifties, BMW advocated acceleration at about 2/3 throttle and shifting early as a way to save fuel. It seems that their experiments had proven that the near wide open throttle reduced the “pumping losses” that are inherent in gasoline engines saving more fuel than was used by the throttle position. The procedure also called for shifting at low RPMs, definitely below peak torque. At that time this was generally less than 2000RPM.

Of course at that time most cars were manual transmissions. With an automatic the transmission simply won’t upshift, which defeats this proven technique.

]]> By: ChuckL http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/#comment-24891 ChuckL Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:59:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=575#comment-24891 Back in the fifties, BMW advocated acceleration at about 2/3 throttle and shifting early as a way to save fuel. It seems that their experiments had proven that the near wide open throttle reduced the "pumping losses" that are inherent in gasoline engines saving more fuel than was used by the throttle position. The procedure also called for shifting at low RPMs, definitely below peak torque. At that time this was generally less than 2000RPM. Of course at that time most cars were manual transmissions. With an automatic the transmission simply won't upshift, which defeats this proven technique. Back in the fifties, BMW advocated acceleration at about 2/3 throttle and shifting early as a way to save fuel. It seems that their experiments had proven that the near wide open throttle reduced the “pumping losses” that are inherent in gasoline engines saving more fuel than was used by the throttle position. The procedure also called for shifting at low RPMs, definitely below peak torque. At that time this was generally less than 2000RPM.

Of course at that time most cars were manual transmissions. With an automatic the transmission simply won’t upshift, which defeats this proven technique.

]]> By: EcoDriving: The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturerers Gift to the Masses (Opinion) : Gas 2.0 http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/#comment-3270 EcoDriving: The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturerers Gift to the Masses (Opinion) : Gas 2.0 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:57:25 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=575#comment-3270 [...] the Alliances plan, known simply as EcoDriving. The name EcoDriving is supposed to replace the term hypermiling. According to everyone’s favorite Governor of California, using the techniques provided by on [...] [...] the Alliances plan, known simply as EcoDriving. The name EcoDriving is supposed to replace the term hypermiling. According to everyone’s favorite Governor of California, using the techniques provided by on [...]

]]> By: Beast http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/#comment-3269 Beast Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:12:11 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=575#comment-3269 The problem with hypermiling is that it encourages already terrible drivers to behave in a manner that is even more unsafe. The fact that you are driving a car (not using a bicycle or taking advantage of public transportation) from the most inefficient fleet of vehicles in the world (American autos in general) shows that your creativity is better spent elsewhere. You obviously don't give a rat's ass about the environment - better to play "mileage games" at other people's expense. I drive an SUV and don't give a flying flip what kind of mileage I'm getting because it's paid for and ultimately I'll keep it until it keels over. The people who run out to buy a $30,000 prius and then drive like pricks need their head examined. Fund a wind farm, plant some trees, do something meaningful. Just stay the f off my roads. The problem with hypermiling is that it encourages already terrible drivers to behave in a manner that is even more unsafe. The fact that you are driving a car (not using a bicycle or taking advantage of public transportation) from the most inefficient fleet of vehicles in the world (American autos in general) shows that your creativity is better spent elsewhere. You obviously don’t give a rat’s ass about the environment – better to play “mileage games” at other people’s expense.

I drive an SUV and don’t give a flying flip what kind of mileage I’m getting because it’s paid for and ultimately I’ll keep it until it keels over. The people who run out to buy a $30,000 prius and then drive like pricks need their head examined. Fund a wind farm, plant some trees, do something meaningful. Just stay the f off my roads.

]]> By: Beast http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/#comment-24889 Beast Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:12:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=575#comment-24889 The problem with hypermiling is that it encourages already terrible drivers to behave in a manner that is even more unsafe. The fact that you are driving a car (not using a bicycle or taking advantage of public transportation) from the most inefficient fleet of vehicles in the world (American autos in general) shows that your creativity is better spent elsewhere. You obviously don't give a rat's ass about the environment - better to play "mileage games" at other people's expense. I drive an SUV and don't give a flying flip what kind of mileage I'm getting because it's paid for and ultimately I'll keep it until it keels over. The people who run out to buy a $30,000 prius and then drive like pricks need their head examined. Fund a wind farm, plant some trees, do something meaningful. Just stay the f off my roads. The problem with hypermiling is that it encourages already terrible drivers to behave in a manner that is even more unsafe. The fact that you are driving a car (not using a bicycle or taking advantage of public transportation) from the most inefficient fleet of vehicles in the world (American autos in general) shows that your creativity is better spent elsewhere. You obviously don’t give a rat’s ass about the environment – better to play “mileage games” at other people’s expense.

I drive an SUV and don’t give a flying flip what kind of mileage I’m getting because it’s paid for and ultimately I’ll keep it until it keels over. The people who run out to buy a $30,000 prius and then drive like pricks need their head examined. Fund a wind farm, plant some trees, do something meaningful. Just stay the f off my roads.

]]> By: Colin http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/#comment-3268 Colin Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:29:17 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=575#comment-3268 What a joke, how is this solving the greater problem? We need more attention on technological solutions that can be universalized economically, ecologically, and I wish I didn't have to say this, legally. A few ultra-anal pseudo-engineers with a lot of time on their hands are not presenting any answers. Economically, how much extra money is being saved in gas (dollars) versus how much extra time is being spent driving slower (hours)? Any by the way how much do those extra starters cost? Ecologically, how much carbon is emitted every time the engine is stopped and started? How much fuel is used to charge the battery for the excess starts and stops? How effective are emission systems when the cars are operated cold (see a hypermiler's idea of the running start)? What about the the environmental impact of wearing out tires early due to overinflation? My VW TDI gets 55 hassle-free mpg on 20% biodiesel without other drivers or law enforcement noticing. What a joke, how is this solving the greater problem?

We need more attention on technological solutions that can be universalized economically, ecologically, and I wish I didn’t have to say this, legally.

A few ultra-anal pseudo-engineers with a lot of time on their hands are not presenting any answers.

Economically, how much extra money is being saved in gas (dollars) versus how much extra time is being spent driving slower (hours)? Any by the way how much do those extra starters cost?

Ecologically, how much carbon is emitted every time the engine is stopped and started? How much fuel is used to charge the battery for the excess starts and stops? How effective are emission systems when the cars are operated cold (see a hypermiler’s idea of the running start)? What about the the environmental impact of wearing out tires early due to overinflation?

My VW TDI gets 55 hassle-free mpg on 20% biodiesel without other drivers or law enforcement noticing.

]]> By: Benjamin Jones http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/#comment-3267 Benjamin Jones Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:39:06 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=575#comment-3267 Is the "wayne gerdes is god" show on again? Is the “wayne gerdes is god” show on again?

]]> By: Benjamin Jones http://gas2.org/2008/06/11/low-impact-living-hypermiling-my-mileage-is-better-than-your-mileage/#comment-24888 Benjamin Jones Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:39:00 +0000 http://gas2.org/?p=575#comment-24888 Is the "wayne gerdes is god" show on again? Is the “wayne gerdes is god” show on again?

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