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Published on June 4th, 2008 | by Max Lindberg

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New South Dakota Oil Refinery One Step Closer to Reality

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First in America Since 1976

Voters have said yes to a zoning ordinance that would result in construction of the nation’s newest oil refinery in over 30 years.

The highly contentious issue has pitted neighbor against neighbor in Union County, SD for months after Hyperion Energy first applied for a zoning permit to build the refinery.

Elk Point, SD city officials, quoted in the Sioux City Journal, were elated over the vote, saying it could bring thousands of new jobs and millions of dollars into the farming community.

$10 Billion Project

Hyperion plans to use 3,292 acres of farm land to build what Hyperion claimed would be a “green” energy center, the worlds cleanest, at a cost of $10 billion

The facility would process 400,000 barrels of Alberta tar sands crude a day, turning it into what the company says is low-sulfur gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, in addition to an IGCC (integrated Gasification Combined Cycle) power plant.

Read below, under “Posts Related to Oil and the Environment“, for an article I wrote last year on the tar sands, and a podcast interview with Liz Moore on her run-in with Syncrude.

At stake, according to company and local officials, will be 4,500 construction jobs, and over 1,800 permanent full time employees.

Opposition Unbowed

Opponents of the plan vow to do anything possible to stop the plant from becoming reality. The “not in my back yard” crowd cites health issues from pollution and other troubles the refinery would bring to their neighborhoods.

While the zoning issue is a big step, the company now has to submit a series of applications to local, state and federal agencies before construction an begin.

Opponents say they have strategies that will slow or delay the permit processes.

Hyperion says it plans to break ground in 2010.

Posts Related to Oil and the Environment:

  • Podcast Interview with Liz Moore, who documented the Alberta Tar Sands project and was not allowed to publish pictures depicting damage to the local environment on her website. The link to my introductory story is here with pictures and links to the Syncrude project. Here is my interview with Liz.

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My home state is Illinois, and my hometown a little railroad/farming community named Galesburg.We lived on a small farm during my high school years and I became very aware of nature and it's wonders. I loved the out of doors, working with animals, plowing fields and harvesting crops. Those were very good years.After a stint in the Army during the Korean war my broadcasting career took off at the local radio station, a 250 watt "teapot" as it was called in those days. My first job was as an engineer, then the ham came out and I became an announcer/newsman, graduating after several years to a larger market and a stint as a TV journalist/photographer. Cold, wet weather led me to the southwest where I've lived for most of the last 40 years, with a couple of years out to have fun working as a private investigator in San Francisco, and a few years working in Las Vegas hotels and casinos. In all, its been a real ride.After retiring a few years back I became fascinated with the efforts being made to find alternative energy sources. I've watched our environment deteriorate during my lifetime, and now it's my chance to join the chorus of intelligent and caring individuals making a difference one day at a time.



  • David Anderson

    The Alberta tar sands are the hugest environmental boondoggle that no one knows has been developing for 10 years.

    Refineries in South Dakota and Montana? Keep digging, America…

    • Darnell Ransaw

      I want to no Mr. Anderson are the job markets sky rocking out that way,i really want to make a move out there,an im coming from New Jersey.Also i just want to know is the labor pay worth it coming out that way.

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  • http://www.water4gas-scam.com Chuck

    Just when the first Hydrogen on Demand came out? This money might be wasted, I hate to say, sorry!

  • http://www.water4gas-scam.com Chuck

    Just when the first Hydrogen on Demand came out? This money might be wasted, I hate to say, sorry!

  • Feldwebel Wolfenstool

    I’m totally outraged that this plant is not being built in MY freakin’ country. Our environment is being destroyed in Alberta, just to make $13 a barrel crude, and then you cockroaches, get to make most of the real $$$ processing it, and will make us, up here, we’ll wind up paying more for a gallon of gas, than all you fat, lazy clowns in your SUVs down south. Now wonder the Arabs hate you people sometimes. Whatever you can’t buy CHEAP, you’ll STEAL.

    • http://Web bill

      whatever, are you a welder? you must be as much as you are whining about the price of oil. get off your lazy crybaby ass and do something worth doing besides crying about somebody else making the bucks !

  • Feldwebel Wolfenstool

    I’m totally outraged that this plant is not being built in MY freakin’ country. Our environment is being destroyed in Alberta, just to make $13 a barrel crude, and then you cockroaches, get to make most of the real $$$ processing it, and will make us, up here, we’ll wind up paying more for a gallon of gas, than all you fat, lazy clowns in your SUVs down south. Now wonder the Arabs hate you people sometimes. Whatever you can’t buy CHEAP, you’ll STEAL.

  • http://www.carbonoffsetsdaily.com Christopher Keys

    I thought I was reading one of those parody news blurbs at first. Hopefully by 2010 a better solution will dawn on them…

  • http://www.carbonoffsetsdaily.com Christopher Keys

    I thought I was reading one of those parody news blurbs at first. Hopefully by 2010 a better solution will dawn on them…

  • Turtle

    Are not tar sands extremely expensive and dirty to convert to oil let alone being anything but “green”?

  • Roger

    It is actually Elk Point, SD not Elk Grove, SD……

  • Turtle

    Are not tar sands extremely expensive and dirty to convert to oil let alone being anything but “green”?

  • Roger

    It is actually Elk Point, SD not Elk Grove, SD……

  • http://www.pennyjobs.com Curt

    That’s great, but with food prices going up, 3,292 acres of farm land is a lot of food that we could be planting.

  • http://www.pennyjobs.com Curt

    That’s great, but with food prices going up, 3,292 acres of farm land is a lot of food that we could be planting.

  • Bob

    North Dakota been working on one for a while now. One Indian Reservation has gone through some of the application process.

  • Bob

    North Dakota been working on one for a while now. One Indian Reservation has gone through some of the application process.

  • mizz

    Jesus christ you guys, cant any of you be happy?

    Prices are high because of no new refineries! Lets build some! OK!

    Wait, you should continue farming and not refine oil!

    Wait, you should of built it up in Alberta!

    This is good news, and it moves us one step closer to becoming less reliant on other countries oil. Whats so wrong with that?

    Whine whine whine when none of you have any realistic solutions

  • mizz

    Jesus christ you guys, cant any of you be happy?

    Prices are high because of no new refineries! Lets build some! OK!

    Wait, you should continue farming and not refine oil!

    Wait, you should of built it up in Alberta!

    This is good news, and it moves us one step closer to becoming less reliant on other countries oil. Whats so wrong with that?

    Whine whine whine when none of you have any realistic solutions

  • Max

    Thank you, Roger for the correction.

    I’ve added a podcast interview I did last year with an 85 year old Colorado woman who visited the Syncrude tar sands project, took pictures and tried to publish them on her website. She was outraged at what she saw. Syncrude made her take them off her site, but she put up a great slide show nonetheless. The links to the pictures and podcast are located toward the bottom of this story.

    Thanks everyone for your comments.

  • Max

    Thank you, Roger for the correction.

    I’ve added a podcast interview I did last year with an 85 year old Colorado woman who visited the Syncrude tar sands project, took pictures and tried to publish them on her website. She was outraged at what she saw. Syncrude made her take them off her site, but she put up a great slide show nonetheless. The links to the pictures and podcast are located toward the bottom of this story.

    Thanks everyone for your comments.

  • name

    I dont think this is gonna get build.

    Reliance is building a huge refinery in India that is going to send 100% of its refined product to the USA that will add 5% of the total world production of refined crude.

    I dont have a link to the article but all the “experts” said that would make a huge amount of excess refinary capacity.

  • name

    I dont think this is gonna get build.

    Reliance is building a huge refinery in India that is going to send 100% of its refined product to the USA that will add 5% of the total world production of refined crude.

    I dont have a link to the article but all the “experts” said that would make a huge amount of excess refinary capacity.

  • jake

    This is GREAT! We should be building more refineries. This isn’t the stone age.

  • jake

    This is GREAT! We should be building more refineries. This isn’t the stone age.

  • Fl!p

    well said Wolfenstool, i wonder where this will stop but the reality is that our government is to blame just as much or more than they are. Somewhere someone thought it was ok to sell off our natural resources be it our timber, or the electricity from our hydro dams or oil, we have all these things but do we ever see tax breaks or cheaper utilities? i love my country but i’m beginning to lose all pride in it.

  • Fl!p

    well said Wolfenstool, i wonder where this will stop but the reality is that our government is to blame just as much or more than they are. Somewhere someone thought it was ok to sell off our natural resources be it our timber, or the electricity from our hydro dams or oil, we have all these things but do we ever see tax breaks or cheaper utilities? i love my country but i’m beginning to lose all pride in it.

  • I Love my H2 Hummer

    More gas for me, fuck all you guys.

  • I Love my H2 Hummer

    More gas for me, fuck all you guys.

  • Jesse

    Well, well, well. Mizz is correct! No new refineries since 1976, However, the amount of cars on the road has almost doubled in that time. It’s a fairly easy equation to solve. Many more cars and trucks, but the same amount of refineries. Huh. As a worker in the refining industry, there are many things the typical joe schmo off the street does not understand about refining. As far as it being a “dirty” industry, that is a thing of the past! EPA regulations are very stringent these days, and this angency watches refineries like a hawk!!!! More refining capacity would ease some of the problems this nation has encountered, but not immediately! $4.00/gal gasoline? European’s have been paying about $6.00/gal for over 20 years!!! What do we have to bitch about!!! Thank goodness for corn based ethanol!!!(Not!!!)

  • Jesse

    Well, well, well. Mizz is correct! No new refineries since 1976, However, the amount of cars on the road has almost doubled in that time. It’s a fairly easy equation to solve. Many more cars and trucks, but the same amount of refineries. Huh. As a worker in the refining industry, there are many things the typical joe schmo off the street does not understand about refining. As far as it being a “dirty” industry, that is a thing of the past! EPA regulations are very stringent these days, and this angency watches refineries like a hawk!!!! More refining capacity would ease some of the problems this nation has encountered, but not immediately! $4.00/gal gasoline? European’s have been paying about $6.00/gal for over 20 years!!! What do we have to bitch about!!! Thank goodness for corn based ethanol!!!(Not!!!)

  • http://jamesrobertkelley.com James Kelley

    Are these comments written by people with an agenda or by the average passer-by of this site? I swear, I smell a conspiracy here.

    We screwed ourselves a long time ago by building a country that we have to drive everywhere in order to function. Then we let a bunch of nuts restrict our supply of gas by not allowing an oil refinery for over 30 years. If people cannot afford to live their lives due to high costs, a little farm land won’t make a different; people will not be able to afford to eat. Besides, the costs are up because of fuel, not lack of supply.

  • http://jamesrobertkelley.com James Kelley

    Are these comments written by people with an agenda or by the average passer-by of this site? I swear, I smell a conspiracy here.

    We screwed ourselves a long time ago by building a country that we have to drive everywhere in order to function. Then we let a bunch of nuts restrict our supply of gas by not allowing an oil refinery for over 30 years. If people cannot afford to live their lives due to high costs, a little farm land won’t make a different; people will not be able to afford to eat. Besides, the costs are up because of fuel, not lack of supply.

  • Brandon

    I agree we need a new refinery. With todays technology we can create a cleaner refinery cheaper then retrofitting what we already have. And maybe as time goes on and we begin to wean ourselves from oil, they can shut down the older refinery’s that give off more pollution then the new ones. Think big picture… Don’t stand around and *itch all day, come to the table with a viable solution. If you don’t have one, stop complaining.

  • Brandon

    I agree we need a new refinery. With todays technology we can create a cleaner refinery cheaper then retrofitting what we already have. And maybe as time goes on and we begin to wean ourselves from oil, they can shut down the older refinery’s that give off more pollution then the new ones. Think big picture… Don’t stand around and *itch all day, come to the table with a viable solution. If you don’t have one, stop complaining.

  • http://www.tcdesign.org/ Toby

    We have oil in South Dakota? Wow, I must have missed that… and I live there.

  • http://www.tcdesign.org/ Toby

    We have oil in South Dakota? Wow, I must have missed that… and I live there.

  • DJ

    What a bunch of hateful/spiteful comments on here. Also a lot of people mislead by the clean energy movement that really has little to no traction. As a EE scientist myself, I understand full well that the clean energy movement is light years behind in technology then they are willing to admit. Battery technology alone needs at least another 20 years of development before being able to handle the growing demand on electricity and storage. Building a new plant is the right thing to do! If you look at the specs, this plant will be able to convert as technology changes.

    Canada and the U.S. really should work together to rid our continent of Middle East Oil. We have successfully worked together to solve all sorts of problems…why not this? I think I can speak for many Americans when I say we love Canada and wouldn’t want to do anything to hurt our friends and neighbors.

    And for the angry Canadian Mr. Wolfenstool – stop being so hateful and spewing stereotypes that aren’t true. BTW – I travel to Canada quite a bit and last time I checked, Canada didn’t look any different from the States. I see a lot of SUVs in Canada. Pointing fingers isn’t going to get anyone anywhere – after all is said and done, more will be said then done!

    -DJ

  • DJ

    What a bunch of hateful/spiteful comments on here. Also a lot of people mislead by the clean energy movement that really has little to no traction. As a EE scientist myself, I understand full well that the clean energy movement is light years behind in technology then they are willing to admit. Battery technology alone needs at least another 20 years of development before being able to handle the growing demand on electricity and storage. Building a new plant is the right thing to do! If you look at the specs, this plant will be able to convert as technology changes.

    Canada and the U.S. really should work together to rid our continent of Middle East Oil. We have successfully worked together to solve all sorts of problems…why not this? I think I can speak for many Americans when I say we love Canada and wouldn’t want to do anything to hurt our friends and neighbors.

    And for the angry Canadian Mr. Wolfenstool – stop being so hateful and spewing stereotypes that aren’t true. BTW – I travel to Canada quite a bit and last time I checked, Canada didn’t look any different from the States. I see a lot of SUVs in Canada. Pointing fingers isn’t going to get anyone anywhere – after all is said and done, more will be said then done!

    -DJ

  • http://ooyes.net website design

    The short term result of higher prices is driving innovation on alternative fuels and helping to save the environment.The long term effect is that you get ignorant people screaming to drill for more oil and driving harmful politics when the money used for drilling should be used to push alternatives that we’ll eventually switch to.The moral of the story is: you can force people to conserve and consequently help the environment but you can’t make all stupid people smart about politics.Oh, and blame John McCain who voted against CAFE standards, which would have raised your gas mileage, for the lousy gas mileage you get and the amount you have to pay.

  • http://ooyes.net website design

    The short term result of higher prices is driving innovation on alternative fuels and helping to save the environment.The long term effect is that you get ignorant people screaming to drill for more oil and driving harmful politics when the money used for drilling should be used to push alternatives that we’ll eventually switch to.The moral of the story is: you can force people to conserve and consequently help the environment but you can’t make all stupid people smart about politics.Oh, and blame John McCain who voted against CAFE standards, which would have raised your gas mileage, for the lousy gas mileage you get and the amount you have to pay.

  • Lynn Beedle

    Earth FIRST…Then drill the other planets

  • Lynn Beedle

    Earth FIRST…Then drill the other planets

  • Gekkobear

    “Canada and the U.S. really should work together to rid our continent of Middle East Oil.”

    Ok, so lets see how Congress looks at this problem.

    Problem: Too much reliance on ME oil.

    Assumption #1: Never drill inside the U.S. borders, don’t drill off the coasts, and drilling in general is bad.

    Assumption #2: Oh, that “no drilling” that also means “no converting shale to oil” (ask Colorado’s Senator Ken Salazar, who is blocking this effort). Seriously, that would also be horrible, bad, and should never be done; even if in todays market it would be worth the cost. Because more oil = bad.

    Solution: What’dya mean we don’t have a solution. We’ve deliberately cut off every source of domestic oil supply we could, why hasn’t the supply gone up and the prices dropped? It must be those eeevil oil companies.

    Maybe Solar power will fix it, or cold fusion, or fairy dust and unicorn dreams… but not oil, not nuclear, not natural gas, and not hydroelectric. We can’t possibly use proven technology, we need assumptions, not facts to solve this…

    Why anyone thinks Congress is doing anything useful is beyond me.

  • Gekkobear

    “Canada and the U.S. really should work together to rid our continent of Middle East Oil.”

    Ok, so lets see how Congress looks at this problem.

    Problem: Too much reliance on ME oil.

    Assumption #1: Never drill inside the U.S. borders, don’t drill off the coasts, and drilling in general is bad.

    Assumption #2: Oh, that “no drilling” that also means “no converting shale to oil” (ask Colorado’s Senator Ken Salazar, who is blocking this effort). Seriously, that would also be horrible, bad, and should never be done; even if in todays market it would be worth the cost. Because more oil = bad.

    Solution: What’dya mean we don’t have a solution. We’ve deliberately cut off every source of domestic oil supply we could, why hasn’t the supply gone up and the prices dropped? It must be those eeevil oil companies.

    Maybe Solar power will fix it, or cold fusion, or fairy dust and unicorn dreams… but not oil, not nuclear, not natural gas, and not hydroelectric. We can’t possibly use proven technology, we need assumptions, not facts to solve this…

    Why anyone thinks Congress is doing anything useful is beyond me.

    • http://Web dewitt

      i think that is the best i’ve heard this year , yes we should ban together and quit buying middle eastern oil, but i think what we are doing is buying all of their oil and saving ours so when they do run out we can stick it to them.

  • Gekkobear

    The short term result of higher prices is driving innovation on alternative fuels and helping to save the environment.

    .. because nothing helps innovation like less money and a tighter economy. God forbid we try this when we’ve got surplus funds for investment, it’d never work…

    The long term effect is that you get ignorant people screaming to drill for more oil and driving harmful politics when the money used for drilling should be used to push alternatives that we’ll eventually switch to.

    … Like corn ethanol (which barely breaks even) Solar (without battery tech to store it) Wind (which can’t cover the costs of building its own transmission lines) and puppy dog dreams (or whatever snake oil is being sold today). Maybe another claim that hydrogen is a fuel source, and not a transmission method?

    The moral of the story is: you can force people to conserve and consequently help the environment but you can’t make all stupid people smart about politics.

    … But you can tell them that if they suffer enough now on earth, that Al Gore will make a place for them in eco-heaven; where there will always be green trees and daffodils.

    Oh, and blame John McCain who voted against CAFE standards, which would have raised your gas mileage, for the lousy gas mileage you get and the amount you have to pay.

    … Right, because John McCain saying “make cars get 45 MPG” would magically make the technology to do that. Hell, if that’s true, why stop at 45, why not 45,000 MPG? If science is simply driven by legislature, and Congress can mandate scientific discoveries, then 45,000,000 is right around th4e corner.

    Or maybe that’s a dumb statement. So, CAFE standards? Can Congress legislate scientific advances, or are you making shit up and hoping nobody notices?

  • Gekkobear

    The short term result of higher prices is driving innovation on alternative fuels and helping to save the environment.

    .. because nothing helps innovation like less money and a tighter economy. God forbid we try this when we’ve got surplus funds for investment, it’d never work…

    The long term effect is that you get ignorant people screaming to drill for more oil and driving harmful politics when the money used for drilling should be used to push alternatives that we’ll eventually switch to.

    … Like corn ethanol (which barely breaks even) Solar (without battery tech to store it) Wind (which can’t cover the costs of building its own transmission lines) and puppy dog dreams (or whatever snake oil is being sold today). Maybe another claim that hydrogen is a fuel source, and not a transmission method?

    The moral of the story is: you can force people to conserve and consequently help the environment but you can’t make all stupid people smart about politics.

    … But you can tell them that if they suffer enough now on earth, that Al Gore will make a place for them in eco-heaven; where there will always be green trees and daffodils.

    Oh, and blame John McCain who voted against CAFE standards, which would have raised your gas mileage, for the lousy gas mileage you get and the amount you have to pay.

    … Right, because John McCain saying “make cars get 45 MPG” would magically make the technology to do that. Hell, if that’s true, why stop at 45, why not 45,000 MPG? If science is simply driven by legislature, and Congress can mandate scientific discoveries, then 45,000,000 is right around th4e corner.

    Or maybe that’s a dumb statement. So, CAFE standards? Can Congress legislate scientific advances, or are you making shit up and hoping nobody notices?

  • Someone

    “The short term result of higher prices is driving innovation on alternative fuels and helping to save the environment.The long term effect is that you get ignorant people screaming to drill for more oil and driving harmful politics”

    Don’t you love it when people use half truths. The only reason why high gas prices incourage alternative fuels is because the price of alternative fuels are arleady high. So, if for example, gasoline becomes more expensive than Ethonol then everyone will invest in Ethonol. True, but that does not cause the price of Ethonol to come down. You are still going to have people demanding lower prices of ethonol.

    Also you cannot artificially drive up prices and hope for a solution to just appear. I’m not sure how you can consider that and then call something else dangerous politics.

  • Someone

    “The short term result of higher prices is driving innovation on alternative fuels and helping to save the environment.The long term effect is that you get ignorant people screaming to drill for more oil and driving harmful politics”

    Don’t you love it when people use half truths. The only reason why high gas prices incourage alternative fuels is because the price of alternative fuels are arleady high. So, if for example, gasoline becomes more expensive than Ethonol then everyone will invest in Ethonol. True, but that does not cause the price of Ethonol to come down. You are still going to have people demanding lower prices of ethonol.

    Also you cannot artificially drive up prices and hope for a solution to just appear. I’m not sure how you can consider that and then call something else dangerous politics.

  • Sandra Hurt-Norris

    Hey, come on down to Upper Cumberland Plateau of Tennessee where we have high unemployment, no industry since Osh-Kosh moved out, gas at $3.99 this morning. We will welcome you with open arms!!! Don’t worry about pollution ’cause we all smoke anyway. We need the jobs to feed our families.

  • Sandra Hurt-Norris

    Hey, come on down to Upper Cumberland Plateau of Tennessee where we have high unemployment, no industry since Osh-Kosh moved out, gas at $3.99 this morning. We will welcome you with open arms!!! Don’t worry about pollution ’cause we all smoke anyway. We need the jobs to feed our families.

  • Don Marshall

    What the hell do some of these people want , to go back to the horse and buggy day , clean up the horse shit off the street. Build the dam refinery .

  • Don Marshall

    What the hell do some of these people want , to go back to the horse and buggy day , clean up the horse shit off the street. Build the dam refinery .

  • Plug

    If this only costs 10 billion. Tell me why are we digging on Mars at a cost of about 10 new refineries. Why don’t we add this to the cost of the war and build 8 new refineries every time we re-fund the war. We can always say we will not tax your big earnings! if you build 10 to 12 new refineries.

  • Plug

    If this only costs 10 billion. Tell me why are we digging on Mars at a cost of about 10 new refineries. Why don’t we add this to the cost of the war and build 8 new refineries every time we re-fund the war. We can always say we will not tax your big earnings! if you build 10 to 12 new refineries.

  • Walter Huffell

    Let’s stop cackling about the right and wrong in developing this new refinery. Based on the Federal, State and Local demands regarding particular ‘mixtures’ they will accept, where, we need scores of new refinaries in Canada and the U.S.

    I think that the two countries should agree on ONE ‘mixture’ for all – say the California Emissions Standard. That simplifies the what, how and where to build.

    As for the acreage being utilized that could otherwise be used for fsrming, let us not forget the millions of regular food growing acres being fruitlessly converted to corn for Ethanol. Nor that this decision is causing higher food prices here and food shortages across the world.

    Let the Environmental Elites shut up for a while so that the people, who know how extract us from our problems, can do so as soon as possible – then we can worry about pollution etc., when we no longer depend on any unfriendly foreign powers dominiating our economies.

  • Walter Huffell

    Let’s stop cackling about the right and wrong in developing this new refinery. Based on the Federal, State and Local demands regarding particular ‘mixtures’ they will accept, where, we need scores of new refinaries in Canada and the U.S.

    I think that the two countries should agree on ONE ‘mixture’ for all – say the California Emissions Standard. That simplifies the what, how and where to build.

    As for the acreage being utilized that could otherwise be used for fsrming, let us not forget the millions of regular food growing acres being fruitlessly converted to corn for Ethanol. Nor that this decision is causing higher food prices here and food shortages across the world.

    Let the Environmental Elites shut up for a while so that the people, who know how extract us from our problems, can do so as soon as possible – then we can worry about pollution etc., when we no longer depend on any unfriendly foreign powers dominiating our economies.

  • horizonOILsands

    Why the hell are we giving our oil to the Americans only to buy it back at a more expensive price. We need to get those refineries in Northern Alberta and Saskatchewan. You Yanks are robbing us blind. Lumber, Oil, Even Drinking water. Shame on your obese country.

  • horizonOILsands

    Why the hell are we giving our oil to the Americans only to buy it back at a more expensive price. We need to get those refineries in Northern Alberta and Saskatchewan. You Yanks are robbing us blind. Lumber, Oil, Even Drinking water. Shame on your obese country.

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  • mizzisright

    sitting around whining about problems but then shooting down all the plans that others are coming up with is an all too common trend now…

    we’re extremely dependent on other countries for this oil and need to do something about it.

    high oil prices is what’s leading to high food costs.

    so at least in a few years when the prices have gone up they may slow or come back down a bit with this refinery being built. i dont see any other major solutions to come anytime soon, but we’ll see.

  • mizzisright

    sitting around whining about problems but then shooting down all the plans that others are coming up with is an all too common trend now…

    we’re extremely dependent on other countries for this oil and need to do something about it.

    high oil prices is what’s leading to high food costs.

    so at least in a few years when the prices have gone up they may slow or come back down a bit with this refinery being built. i dont see any other major solutions to come anytime soon, but we’ll see.

  • jeff koon

    yes we should build at least 3 new heavy crude refineries in this country,people are the problem,those that do not want to build refineries or drill for oil ,use the most gas and electric,i.e.al gore,

  • jeff koon

    yes we should build at least 3 new heavy crude refineries in this country,people are the problem,those that do not want to build refineries or drill for oil ,use the most gas and electric,i.e.al gore,

  • Cyrill Greene

    I want to know if the oil has a sale price yet, and/or when will it be ready. I’m looking to spend a million on this project. Please respond ASAP

    Thank you,

    Cyrill Greene,CEO

    Emerald Luxe

  • Cyrill Greene

    I want to know if the oil has a sale price yet, and/or when will it be ready. I’m looking to spend a million on this project. Please respond ASAP

    Thank you,

    Cyrill Greene,CEO

    Emerald Luxe

  • John J.B

    Questions:

    Is the Missouri River deep enough for the barge traffic?

    Where is Hyperion planning to get water for their cooling towers.

    If a refinery has 12 cooling units (160,000 barrels a day. They are planning 400,000 barrels a day or 30 cooling units for production. !2,000,000 gallons a day for cooling. Where is the water to cool the units.

    They will need electrical sub stations for electricity, where will they get the power from.

    Special waste produce from the refinery, where will they dump the loads. A guess at 150 to 300 20 yarders of waste a year.

    Rail to transport and river to transport by products like coke, sulfur, alky, and many others.

  • John J.B

    Questions:

    Is the Missouri River deep enough for the barge traffic?

    Where is Hyperion planning to get water for their cooling towers.

    If a refinery has 12 cooling units (160,000 barrels a day. They are planning 400,000 barrels a day or 30 cooling units for production. !2,000,000 gallons a day for cooling. Where is the water to cool the units.

    They will need electrical sub stations for electricity, where will they get the power from.

    Special waste produce from the refinery, where will they dump the loads. A guess at 150 to 300 20 yarders of waste a year.

    Rail to transport and river to transport by products like coke, sulfur, alky, and many others.

  • Paul Robertson

    I am a Canadian who is happy the new refineries that are being built in the USA. Canadians do not deserve the profits from their oil. The gutless Canadians tolerate their Government giving away all natural resources. Raw logs have been going to Japan for years and now we shut down sawmills, why not give away the oil to be refined in the USA? Canada needs a violent revolution against its American controlled government but it will never happen so….come and get it America.

  • Paul Robertson

    I am a Canadian who is happy the new refineries that are being built in the USA. Canadians do not deserve the profits from their oil. The gutless Canadians tolerate their Government giving away all natural resources. Raw logs have been going to Japan for years and now we shut down sawmills, why not give away the oil to be refined in the USA? Canada needs a violent revolution against its American controlled government but it will never happen so….come and get it America.

  • Lance

    should of been built in Sarnia ON. CANADA

  • Lance

    should of been built in Sarnia ON. CANADA

  • canuk

    should of been build in SARNIA, ONTARIO! what comes from canada should stay in canada.

  • canuk

    should of been build in SARNIA, ONTARIO! what comes from canada should stay in canada.

  • alum420

    “If a refinery has 12 cooling units (160,000 barrels a day. They are planning 400,000 barrels a day or 30 cooling units for production. !2,000,000 gallons a day for cooling. Where is the water to cool the units”

    Ummmm cooling water is recycled. Not discharged. Im sure that water is lost in the form of vapor as it tumbles down through the cooling tower but it will be nowhere 2,000,000 gallons.

    If the refineries were to discharge the cooling water instead of recycling it, everytime they had a leak in one of their heat exchanger bundles they would be dumping product into the river/lake (wherever they are getting their water).

  • alum420

    “If a refinery has 12 cooling units (160,000 barrels a day. They are planning 400,000 barrels a day or 30 cooling units for production. !2,000,000 gallons a day for cooling. Where is the water to cool the units”

    Ummmm cooling water is recycled. Not discharged. Im sure that water is lost in the form of vapor as it tumbles down through the cooling tower but it will be nowhere 2,000,000 gallons.

    If the refineries were to discharge the cooling water instead of recycling it, everytime they had a leak in one of their heat exchanger bundles they would be dumping product into the river/lake (wherever they are getting their water).

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  • mitchola

    i work at a refinery we dont use water i think you are thinking of a power plant

  • mitchola

    i work at a refinery we dont use water i think you are thinking of a power plant

  • David C. Kellems

    Why bother with Canada when we have BILLIONS of barrels of oil just to the north in North Dakota and Montana. Amarda Hess and others already have wells in production there. Crazy Dave

  • David C. Kellems

    Why bother with Canada when we have BILLIONS of barrels of oil just to the north in North Dakota and Montana. Amarda Hess and others already have wells in production there. Crazy Dave

  • Alan Young

    What is the time frame for this new refinery? What are the true $cost$ requirements? How is it affordable with rise and fall of todays energy market, to purches land buy permits in a timely manner? Ten years is a time frame for permits alone. I hope you can not only buy the permits but also buy AQMD, this will be needed.

    Sincerely,

    Alan Young

  • Alan Young

    What is the time frame for this new refinery? What are the true $cost$ requirements? How is it affordable with rise and fall of todays energy market, to purches land buy permits in a timely manner? Ten years is a time frame for permits alone. I hope you can not only buy the permits but also buy AQMD, this will be needed.

    Sincerely,

    Alan Young

  • http://oilrefinery1 Aditi

    I want to see the picture of oil refinery 1.

  • Tony

    A new refinery or two is what we need in the short run especially one that isn’t in the hurricane belt.

    @Curt

    Food prices are going up because of neat little things like high fuel costs for transportation and that wonderful idea of making ethanol and bio diesel from grain, it seems a farmer can get a much better price for his grain at the bio fuel plant than he can selling it as feed or food.

    @Feldwebel Wolfenstool

    Sounds like you need to petition your own government to build more there.

  • Tony

    A new refinery or two is what we need in the short run especially one that isn’t in the hurricane belt.

    @Curt

    Food prices are going up because of neat little things like high fuel costs for transportation and that wonderful idea of making ethanol and bio diesel from grain, it seems a farmer can get a much better price for his grain at the bio fuel plant than he can selling it as feed or food.

    @Feldwebel Wolfenstool

    Sounds like you need to petition your own government to build more there.

  • CJ

    Listen Feldwebel Wolfenstool (?), read the second “Posts Related to Oil and the Environment”,just below the story, and you will see why the processing is being done in our great nation The “green weenies” up there continue to hug your trees and tax everyones asses off with this stupid “carbon tax”. Why are you so upset, we will take care of you as we have done for decades. I feel sorry for the great Canadian friends that they have to have to put up with people like you.

  • CJ

    Listen Feldwebel Wolfenstool (?), read the second “Posts Related to Oil and the Environment”,just below the story, and you will see why the processing is being done in our great nation The “green weenies” up there continue to hug your trees and tax everyones asses off with this stupid “carbon tax”. Why are you so upset, we will take care of you as we have done for decades. I feel sorry for the great Canadian friends that they have to have to put up with people like you.

  • Zak

    The 2008 U.S Government Geological Survey established that there is over two trillion barrels of lite sweet crude oil under Wyoming, Utah,& South Dakota. There is more oil there than in all of the mideast. It’s right here in our country, so lets get it, refine it, and use it instead of giving money to our enemies.

    Just think for a moment and ask yourself, just who is financing the inviromentalists in this country. Could it be the left or mideast oil producing countries. You sure won’t have to think to hard.

  • Zak

    The 2008 U.S Government Geological Survey established that there is over two trillion barrels of lite sweet crude oil under Wyoming, Utah,& South Dakota. There is more oil there than in all of the mideast. It’s right here in our country, so lets get it, refine it, and use it instead of giving money to our enemies.

    Just think for a moment and ask yourself, just who is financing the inviromentalists in this country. Could it be the left or mideast oil producing countries. You sure won’t have to think to hard.

  • Orlando Krueger

    Drill baby drill, it will help the balance of payments to the Arab oil cartel. Domestic oil would help the balance of paments and keep the value of the dollar from fast sinking.

  • Orlando Krueger

    Drill baby drill, it will help the balance of payments to the Arab oil cartel. Domestic oil would help the balance of paments and keep the value of the dollar from fast sinking.

  • Rod Helming

    Western North Dakota, Eastern Montana and southern Saskatchewan have a formation called the Bakken shale formation that is estimated to have 4 billion barrels of oil and another formations call Three Forks just under that with has and estimate that is even larger. So your looking at 9 billion barrels of crude that is as sweet as anything the middle east as sent to us. And I guess there is another one under those 2 with they are saying is even bigger yet. They have been working the Bakken the last couple of years and just have started on the Three Forks. They have known for decades that that oil was there but there was no efficient way to get at it until horizontal drilling was perfected. North Dakota has a state budget surplus and the oil is a big reason why. So if South Dakota is getting a refinery, ND would have some sweet crude to send down there because they can’t get one built on the Reservation. Spend millions to get the process near completion and a new head of the tribe comes in and boom he kills it.

  • Rod Helming

    Western North Dakota, Eastern Montana and southern Saskatchewan have a formation called the Bakken shale formation that is estimated to have 4 billion barrels of oil and another formations call Three Forks just under that with has and estimate that is even larger. So your looking at 9 billion barrels of crude that is as sweet as anything the middle east as sent to us. And I guess there is another one under those 2 with they are saying is even bigger yet. They have been working the Bakken the last couple of years and just have started on the Three Forks. They have known for decades that that oil was there but there was no efficient way to get at it until horizontal drilling was perfected. North Dakota has a state budget surplus and the oil is a big reason why. So if South Dakota is getting a refinery, ND would have some sweet crude to send down there because they can’t get one built on the Reservation. Spend millions to get the process near completion and a new head of the tribe comes in and boom he kills it.

  • http://Web Laurie

    Most people don’t understand the necessity for refineries. First of all, my husband works in a refinery and the safety for the crew and the environment is #1. My husband relies on working in this field for income. You need to think twice before you lash out. Do reserch, and discover that having new refineries,they will be updated and safe. Also, the refineries are maintained on a constant basis.

  • http://Web Dale Morris

    I would like to know why this oil find is not shared by all the networdk news programs. I have not heard even one mention of it. It is time for Americans to demand that our politicians take some immediate action. We are paying over $3 a gallon for gas when we have more oil right here in the US than does all the middle-east put together. This is outrageous and Americans need to demand that steps be taken to retrieve this oil. By the way, I wonder how much is being paid and to whom in order to stop the digging. First A FEW PEOPLE were afraid a FEW animals might have to move a FEW miles away up in Alaska; now a FEW people are concerned that a FEW people might become ill in South Dakota. Give me a break!! This gives another definition for the word STUPID!

  • http://Web Ryan

    hyperion is broke and has no money to back this crap any longer. For all those people whining about paying high gas prices, please ask them to build this in your backyard. The city voters voted almost unanimously to have them build this refinery in our county, right in the heart of rich farm country, but 80% of the rural people voted against this. In central SD there is thousands of miles of wide open space and nobody lives there and nobody would care if it was being built, but they are trying to build this in an area that would affect the livelyhood of thousands on people. We will fight this in the courts until there is a new source of energy. Us poor farmers did just fine through the great reccession, and we have the money to fight this for decades. Don’t count on this being build in ELK POINT, SD anytime soon!

  • http://Web mike

    if not built in north dakota or montana please build them in louisiana and mississippi.

    • http://Web mike

      edit: south dakota :)

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  • http://Web thomas schneider

    the oil they will use is from fracking,which increases the green house gasses.since this is in caanada,maybe that is why we are seeing environmental change coming more quickly.thomas

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