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Published on June 4th, 2008 | by Nick Chambers

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Company Unveils Hydrogen Hybrid Supercar: Available Fall 2008

Ronn Motors Scorpion[social_buttons]

Well, here it is folks. A company has finally gone and built the controversial hydrogen hybrid system (or hydrogen injection, or Water4Gas or HHO system – choose your poison) into what appears to be a true production car. Not only that, the car looks, well, stunning… to put it mildly.

Ronn Motors of Austin, Texas, yesterday unveiled what they’re calling “the key to a new generation of “green cars.” The company’s Chief Executive Officer, Ronn Maxwell, had this to say about it:

“What we are revealing today is an innovation in the automotive industry and demonstrates American ingenuity at a time of real need. We’re designing and building cars with performance components and unique styling with the objective of making the new environmentally friendly vehicle stand out with never before seen style and approximately 40 mpg plus efficiency.”

I recently featured this type of hydrogen-on-demand hybrid system in a Gas 2.0 post about potential fuel saving scam devices. At the end of that post I had to say that the jury was still out on these types of systems. There was plenty of back and forth from folks who felt that hydrogen hybrids were scams and those that claimed they had installed the devices and they actually worked.

If Ronn Motors has truly built it into a production supercar, and it works, that would kind of put the kibosh on any naysayers out there now, wouldn’t it? Not only would the development and production of this car validate the functionality of hydrogen hybrids, it also could spur a broader public interest and recognition of the technology.

As of right now, it’s only a test car and some of the quotes from Ronn executives suggest they haven’t actually installed a hydrogen generator into the vehicle yet. But as the Hydrogen Cars & Vehicles blog puts it: “Move over Bugatti, Lamborghini and Saleen, the Ronn Motors Scorpion is a supercar that will scoot 0 to 60 mph in 3.5 seconds and achieve 40 mpg, too.” I mean, if it’s true, this appears to be an awesome development.

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  • Sheri

    I hope this thing isn’t fueled by water. That’s about as stupid as using corn for biofuel. We need to think about our precious resources and how we’re using them. Water is more important than gasoline. We don’t need to be using it as fuel. Most school kids realize that only 1% of all freshwater on this planet is available for use. There really is not much of it.

  • Sheri

    I hope this thing isn’t fueled by water. That’s about as stupid as using corn for biofuel. We need to think about our precious resources and how we’re using them. Water is more important than gasoline. We don’t need to be using it as fuel. Most school kids realize that only 1% of all freshwater on this planet is available for use. There really is not much of it.

  • Mike

    @Sheri

    When water is converted to hydrogen and oxygen then ignited, it is converted back to pure water. So we won’t be using up water. We’ll be creating more pure water.

  • Mike

    @Sheri

    When water is converted to hydrogen and oxygen then ignited, it is converted back to pure water. So we won’t be using up water. We’ll be creating more pure water.

  • Nick Chambers

    @Sheri

    It isn’t entirely fueled by water. That would be the basis for a perpetual motion machine and then we’d be on really thin ice in terms of reality.

    The Scorpion is a hydrogen hybrid which means that water from an on-board tank is split into its component parts and then the resulting hydrogen and oxygen gases are injected into the normal fuel line in small proportions to theoretically increase combustion rates and fuel economy. Whether this actually works is a point up for considerable debate. If this car actually delivers, it would merit serious further scrutiny.

  • blckecho3

    First of all Sheri, your a frickin genius (sarcastic) second this car sounds like Jesus as in it runs on water (couldn’t resist) and third, this car looks great but the purpose is to save gas money so unless they make one that costs like $15,000, I’m not interested.

  • blckecho3

    First of all Sheri, your a frickin genius (sarcastic) second this car sounds like Jesus as in it runs on water (couldn’t resist) and third, this car looks great but the purpose is to save gas money so unless they make one that costs like $15,000, I’m not interested.

  • Mitch

    Running on only water isn’t the basis for a perpetual motion machine.

    As I ‘understand’ it, a perpetual motion machine creates as much energy as it consumes. Therefore it can run forever. Running solely on water is only changing the fuel type, not how much energy it consumes or produces.

  • Mitch

    Running on only water isn’t the basis for a perpetual motion machine.

    As I ‘understand’ it, a perpetual motion machine creates as much energy as it consumes. Therefore it can run forever. Running solely on water is only changing the fuel type, not how much energy it consumes or produces.

  • http://www.keyboard-culture-global-warming.com Mr. Sustainable

    Sweet! I’m also eager for the Venture to hit the highway.

  • http://www.keyboard-culture-global-warming.com Mr. Sustainable

    Sweet! I’m also eager for the Venture to hit the highway.

  • Komail Mithani

    I think this is the starting point where sexy meets green. Where fuel efficient vehicles have the appearance that American consumers are looking for. No one wants to drive an ugly hybrid, but I bet you can get many bachelors to invest in this new sustainable vehicle. Finally, a company that understands the American consumer and the Y generation’s existence. I am looking forward to learn more about Ronn Motors new vehicle and how they will advertise this car. One thing that worries me is the price.

  • Komail Mithani

    I think this is the starting point where sexy meets green. Where fuel efficient vehicles have the appearance that American consumers are looking for. No one wants to drive an ugly hybrid, but I bet you can get many bachelors to invest in this new sustainable vehicle. Finally, a company that understands the American consumer and the Y generation’s existence. I am looking forward to learn more about Ronn Motors new vehicle and how they will advertise this car. One thing that worries me is the price.

  • davd

    it looks expensive…but sexy

  • davd

    it looks expensive…but sexy

  • Jaime

    So essentially what they have now is a rolling chassis (sans hydrogen hybrid system) and a CGI mockup of what the body will look like. Granted, it’s a very pretty rolling chassis, but if they haven’t even tested the hydrogen hybrid part out yet I seriously doubt they’ll be ready for production by fall (I mean, there are a whole gigantic set of red-tape hurdles to building production cars unless you are doing custom build jobs, and if that’s the case these won’t be very affordable or profitable).

  • Jaime

    So essentially what they have now is a rolling chassis (sans hydrogen hybrid system) and a CGI mockup of what the body will look like. Granted, it’s a very pretty rolling chassis, but if they haven’t even tested the hydrogen hybrid part out yet I seriously doubt they’ll be ready for production by fall (I mean, there are a whole gigantic set of red-tape hurdles to building production cars unless you are doing custom build jobs, and if that’s the case these won’t be very affordable or profitable).

  • bob jones

    The ronnmotors.com needs some work.

    In the Engine / Drivetrain section alone, I see plenty of errors.

    2008 Acura dual overhead cam, aluminum/magnesium block, 3.5 liter, V-tech, V-6, Type S Engine (That’s VTEC®)

    6 speed close ration manual transmission. (Why would a transmission need to be rationed)

    It’s a very pretty body, with a decent powertrain.

  • bob jones

    The ronnmotors.com needs some work.

    In the Engine / Drivetrain section alone, I see plenty of errors.

    2008 Acura dual overhead cam, aluminum/magnesium block, 3.5 liter, V-tech, V-6, Type S Engine (That’s VTEC®)

    6 speed close ration manual transmission. (Why would a transmission need to be rationed)

    It’s a very pretty body, with a decent powertrain.

  • http://www.h2ofuelboost.com Mr Green

    This technology is very exciting, but it will be a while before it makes it into a mass-produced version. Fortunately, there is a simple system that harbors this technology and can be used on your car today. Check out http://www.h2ofuelboost.com

  • http://www.h2ofuelboost.com Mr Green

    This technology is very exciting, but it will be a while before it makes it into a mass-produced version. Fortunately, there is a simple system that harbors this technology and can be used on your car today. Check out http://www.h2ofuelboost.com

  • Keith

    “some of the quotes from Ronn executives suggest they haven’t actually installed a hydrogen generator into the vehicle yet.” – So in that case, I’d like to announce that I have solved the “cold fusion” problem and saved the world!! Well, no, I haven’t actually BUILT anything yet, but IF I DID….!

  • Keith

    “some of the quotes from Ronn executives suggest they haven’t actually installed a hydrogen generator into the vehicle yet.” – So in that case, I’d like to announce that I have solved the “cold fusion” problem and saved the world!! Well, no, I haven’t actually BUILT anything yet, but IF I DID….!

  • http://www.articlesnatch.com matt

    thats a crazy cool looking car!

  • http://www.articlesnatch.com matt

    thats a crazy cool looking car!

  • HDS

    Yes! Another eco friendly car the mass public cant afford! Hazah! NEXT!

  • HDS

    Yes! Another eco friendly car the mass public cant afford! Hazah! NEXT!

  • Chris

    @Mitch

    If the car ran solely on water, it would have to split the water molecules to H2 and O2, introduce these to the combustion engine, the products of the combustion cycle being H2O and motion. Since you began with water and end with water and H2O it would actually be “producing” more energy than it began with.

  • Chris

    @Mitch

    If the car ran solely on water, it would have to split the water molecules to H2 and O2, introduce these to the combustion engine, the products of the combustion cycle being H2O and motion. Since you began with water and end with water and H2O it would actually be “producing” more energy than it began with.

  • VWuser

    This is not really a breakthrough or even realistic. VW will be releasing a diesel Jetta soon that will get 60mpg. Imagine if someone like a big oil company decided to develop the distribution of SVO? That is something to look into. SVO ( straight veg oil) is clean burning, fuel efficient and a very renewable resource. That is something to write about and for more people to adopt. It’s a viable solution to gasoline.

    This guy already has a company based on diesels running SVO….worth looking into.

    http://www.goldenfuelsystems.com

  • VWuser

    This is not really a breakthrough or even realistic. VW will be releasing a diesel Jetta soon that will get 60mpg. Imagine if someone like a big oil company decided to develop the distribution of SVO? That is something to look into. SVO ( straight veg oil) is clean burning, fuel efficient and a very renewable resource. That is something to write about and for more people to adopt. It’s a viable solution to gasoline.

    This guy already has a company based on diesels running SVO….worth looking into.

    http://www.goldenfuelsystems.com

  • http://gmail.com CK53

    No, no, no!! No hydrogen car! NO! This is how Exxon “trades up” from selling us gas, they’ll sell us hydrogen at fill up stations. We’re smarter then this, we have better technology then this. It takes more energy to make the hydrogen then to just run off electricity directly. Buy a Tesla!

  • http://gmail.com CK53

    No, no, no!! No hydrogen car! NO! This is how Exxon “trades up” from selling us gas, they’ll sell us hydrogen at fill up stations. We’re smarter then this, we have better technology then this. It takes more energy to make the hydrogen then to just run off electricity directly. Buy a Tesla!

  • Ernie

    I am sure the green people and the tree huggers will find something wrong with it after a 20 year $30,000,000 environmental study.

  • Ernie

    I am sure the green people and the tree huggers will find something wrong with it after a 20 year $30,000,000 environmental study.

  • James

    SVO is a great idea but has anyone took a look at the yield per acre of pure vegetable oil, or what other crop we can use to generate SVO? What we need is sustainable harvests of something that won’t constrain our food production levels. It would be interesting if we as a group could get some of this type of research done ourselves so that we know what the best courses of action are to help in the cause. I often feel people want to make a change in their lives for the future but with so many options available and no real clear alternative outlined for the future it’s hard to make a decision that you know will be the right direction to head in. Of course that’s why sites like these are so great, since there’s so much going on we can at least be informed to make a better decision that the masses who prefer to rely on the government…

  • James

    SVO is a great idea but has anyone took a look at the yield per acre of pure vegetable oil, or what other crop we can use to generate SVO? What we need is sustainable harvests of something that won’t constrain our food production levels. It would be interesting if we as a group could get some of this type of research done ourselves so that we know what the best courses of action are to help in the cause. I often feel people want to make a change in their lives for the future but with so many options available and no real clear alternative outlined for the future it’s hard to make a decision that you know will be the right direction to head in. Of course that’s why sites like these are so great, since there’s so much going on we can at least be informed to make a better decision that the masses who prefer to rely on the government…

  • Ernie

    Thank you. Not a chance

  • Ernie

    Thank you. Not a chance

  • http://socialbang.com Chat room guy

    I wondered when somebody would do this.

  • http://socialbang.com Chat room guy

    I wondered when somebody would do this.

  • raredirt

    @Mitch I think the point of saying it was a perpetual motion machine was that if it was taking only water in and putting pure water out why couldn’t you just put the output back in and run forever, hence perpetual motion. Obviously there is a lot more involved in true perpetual motion but I think that is what he was getting at.

    I am inquisitive about this as there are some ramifications if this is true. I mean there are already some smalltime folks testing with something similar and hey if you could add a 5 gallon water tank to your car and some “other stuff” and get 10 to 15 more MPG wouldn’t you do it?

    Unfortunately once again the technology will come to market at a price point that is out of reach of most of the population.

  • raredirt

    @Mitch I think the point of saying it was a perpetual motion machine was that if it was taking only water in and putting pure water out why couldn’t you just put the output back in and run forever, hence perpetual motion. Obviously there is a lot more involved in true perpetual motion but I think that is what he was getting at.

    I am inquisitive about this as there are some ramifications if this is true. I mean there are already some smalltime folks testing with something similar and hey if you could add a 5 gallon water tank to your car and some “other stuff” and get 10 to 15 more MPG wouldn’t you do it?

    Unfortunately once again the technology will come to market at a price point that is out of reach of most of the population.

  • raredirt

    @Mitch I think the point of saying it was a perpetual motion machine was that if it was taking only water in and putting pure water out why couldn’t you just put the output back in and run forever, hence perpetual motion. Obviously there is a lot more involved in true perpetual motion but I think that is what he was getting at.

    I am inquisitive about this as there are some ramifications if this is true. I mean there are already some smalltime folks testing with something similar and hey if you could add a 5 gallon water tank to your car and some “other stuff” and get 10 to 15 more MPG wouldn’t you do it?

    Unfortunately once again the technology will come to market at a price point that is out of reach of most of the population.

  • http://none mike baker

    if this thing is powered by hydrogen shuldn’t we be getting, like, 100000 miles per gallon of H2O?

  • Nick Chambers

    @ raredirt

    Thank you, that was basically my point about perpetual motion. Running an engine from pure water where you can continually refill it with the exhaust would conflict with the basic laws of thermodynamics. However, I think that a system like a hydrogen hybrid where only portion of the fuel is split from water could increase the overall efficiency of an engine that otherwise is an incredibly inefficient beast (something like less than 50% of the energy in the gas is used in combustion in a modern engine – I may be wrong on that one). Hydrogen hybrids have potential, but I surely don’t have the physics background to make a thorough evaluation of it, so I’ll wait and see if the Scorpion becomes reality. I can tell you though that this is a very controversial subject.

  • Doc Rings

    It’s powered by water-”Vapor-ware”!

  • Doc Rings

    It’s powered by water-”Vapor-ware”!

  • R B

    FTS: “..deposits will be kept in a third party escrow account..”

    That sounds so much like the car scams on Craigslist. Or may be I am too cynical.

  • R B

    FTS: “..deposits will be kept in a third party escrow account..”

    That sounds so much like the car scams on Craigslist. Or may be I am too cynical.

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  • souljah

    if this car is over 40g’s then don’t even think of selling it.

  • souljah

    if this car is over 40g’s then don’t even think of selling it.

  • nights

    Ok RONN and company forget it.I was with you until i heard 40 miles per gallon. have you ever heared of Toyota Prius which gets 45 to 48 MPG at a 21,000 dollar cost with extremely low costs: and you want to sell soemthing with less milage and probly cost 100 grand>? get real.

    We are looking for somethjing which does not need a gas pump AT ALL> GET IT> IT”S OUT THERE EITHER GET YOUR BUTT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR GET OFF THE RACE TRACK.

    hEY A HINT.. I CAN WITH A QUART OF WATER PICK UP ANOTHER 5 TO 8 MPG WITH MY TOYOTA COROLLA USING A SIMPLE UNDER 50$ SETUP. GOOD GREIF WHAT RU THINKING? WHO AR EYOU TRYING TO IMPRESS?

  • nights

    Ok RONN and company forget it.I was with you until i heard 40 miles per gallon. have you ever heared of Toyota Prius which gets 45 to 48 MPG at a 21,000 dollar cost with extremely low costs: and you want to sell soemthing with less milage and probly cost 100 grand>? get real.

    We are looking for somethjing which does not need a gas pump AT ALL> GET IT> IT”S OUT THERE EITHER GET YOUR BUTT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR GET OFF THE RACE TRACK.

    hEY A HINT.. I CAN WITH A QUART OF WATER PICK UP ANOTHER 5 TO 8 MPG WITH MY TOYOTA COROLLA USING A SIMPLE UNDER 50$ SETUP. GOOD GREIF WHAT RU THINKING? WHO AR EYOU TRYING TO IMPRESS?

  • nights

    Ok RONN and company forget it.I was with you until i heard 40 miles per gallon. have you ever heared of Toyota Prius which gets 45 to 48 MPG at a 21,000 dollar cost with extremely low costs: and you want to sell soemthing with less milage and probly cost 100 grand>? get real.

    We are looking for somethjing which does not need a gas pump AT ALL> GET IT> IT”S OUT THERE EITHER GET YOUR BUTT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR GET OFF THE RACE TRACK.

    hEY A HINT.. I CAN WITH A QUART OF WATER PICK UP ANOTHER 5 TO 8 MPG WITH MY TOYOTA COROLLA USING A SIMPLE UNDER 50$ SETUP. GOOD GREIF WHAT RU THINKING? WHO AR EYOU TRYING TO IMPRESS?

  • IV Bob XX

    This thing will work. there are plenty of people with this scam out there that one of them has got to make it work. There are kits out there that you can do this your self for under 100$. Is it convenient? NO. Thats why it hasn’t been mass marketed yet. Who want to change out there HHO solution once a week. I have hard eneogh time checking my oil. I would like to see more of theses thing come into production and maybe someone will make it more user friendly, or americans can just stop being so fu$%ing lazy.

  • IV Bob XX

    This thing will work. there are plenty of people with this scam out there that one of them has got to make it work. There are kits out there that you can do this your self for under 100$. Is it convenient? NO. Thats why it hasn’t been mass marketed yet. Who want to change out there HHO solution once a week. I have hard eneogh time checking my oil. I would like to see more of theses thing come into production and maybe someone will make it more user friendly, or americans can just stop being so fu$%ing lazy.

  • http://www.auto-motor-car.com Car Brother

    Red car, Red wind.

  • http://www.auto-motor-car.com Car Brother

    Red car, Red wind.

  • DartX

    If anyone thinks you can run a car of water … think again. If you could generate enough electricity for electrolyzes to create meaningful amounts of hydrogen … just run a flipping electric motor! If you use very high temperatures, you can get about 50% of the electricity you put into electrolyzes back in terms of Hydrogen gas … but this is not very high temperatures, so it is waaaay less. So instead of throwing 50%+ of the electricity away in the process, just pump it into a electric motor which is 95%+ efficient!

    Just to a search on google for water for fuel … and you’ll find that this is scam that is popping up all over the place with high fuel prices.

    Contrary to popular believe it seems, engineers and scientists are working on ways to use alternative fuels and have been for a long time … some guy in his garage is not going to suddenly solve the energy crisis.

  • DartX

    If anyone thinks you can run a car of water … think again. If you could generate enough electricity for electrolyzes to create meaningful amounts of hydrogen … just run a flipping electric motor! If you use very high temperatures, you can get about 50% of the electricity you put into electrolyzes back in terms of Hydrogen gas … but this is not very high temperatures, so it is waaaay less. So instead of throwing 50%+ of the electricity away in the process, just pump it into a electric motor which is 95%+ efficient!

    Just to a search on google for water for fuel … and you’ll find that this is scam that is popping up all over the place with high fuel prices.

    Contrary to popular believe it seems, engineers and scientists are working on ways to use alternative fuels and have been for a long time … some guy in his garage is not going to suddenly solve the energy crisis.

  • DartX

    If anyone thinks you can run a car of water … think again. If you could generate enough electricity for electrolyzes to create meaningful amounts of hydrogen … just run a flipping electric motor! If you use very high temperatures, you can get about 50% of the electricity you put into electrolyzes back in terms of Hydrogen gas … but this is not very high temperatures, so it is waaaay less. So instead of throwing 50%+ of the electricity away in the process, just pump it into a electric motor which is 95%+ efficient!

    Just to a search on google for water for fuel … and you’ll find that this is scam that is popping up all over the place with high fuel prices.

    Contrary to popular believe it seems, engineers and scientists are working on ways to use alternative fuels and have been for a long time … some guy in his garage is not going to suddenly solve the energy crisis.

  • Pierre

    This sounds like voodoo magic to me. They say that the system uses batteries to make hydrogen gas via electrolysis which is then added to your regular gas/air mixture to reduce gas use.

    The problem with this is that it’s stupid.

    Battery -> H2 electrolysis is only about 60-70% efficient and then burning the H2 is only 80% efficient

    If you convert the electricity from the battery directly to kinetic energy you skip those losses and get much higher efficiency!

    This is pure BS crap and I’m pretty upset that a blog like yours can even post this crap press release to their fancy ‘please invest’ website without pointing out what clear scam artists these guys are.

  • Pierre

    This sounds like voodoo magic to me. They say that the system uses batteries to make hydrogen gas via electrolysis which is then added to your regular gas/air mixture to reduce gas use.

    The problem with this is that it’s stupid.

    Battery -> H2 electrolysis is only about 60-70% efficient and then burning the H2 is only 80% efficient

    If you convert the electricity from the battery directly to kinetic energy you skip those losses and get much higher efficiency!

    This is pure BS crap and I’m pretty upset that a blog like yours can even post this crap press release to their fancy ‘please invest’ website without pointing out what clear scam artists these guys are.

  • http://www.water4gasdownloads.com Steve

    This car is really beautiful. But I’m still skeptical, this water using system seems great but if anyone can do it, why doesn’t car manufacturers use this technology? I started to search for information about alternative fuel solutions and the HOD (hydrogen-on-demand) method sounds interesting. Somebody know about this site: http://www.water4gasdownloads.com ?

  • http://www.water4gasdownloads.com Steve

    This car is really beautiful. But I’m still skeptical, this water using system seems great but if anyone can do it, why doesn’t car manufacturers use this technology? I started to search for information about alternative fuel solutions and the HOD (hydrogen-on-demand) method sounds interesting. Somebody know about this site: http://www.water4gasdownloads.com ?

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    om – This red hot car is green in reality.

  • http://ooyes.net website design

    om – This red hot car is green in reality.

  • http://bwt.jeffotto.com/sr/dweber.php Duane Weber

    HAFC(Hydrogen Assist Fuel Cell) is NOW for most gas autos as an add on at a kit price of $1100. It is installable by most any competent mechanic but needs to be tuned by a certified company mechanic to benefit from the efficiency it can produce. It is guaranteed to provide a minimum of 50% in MPG! Many vehicles are achieving over 100MPG. See http://bwt.jeffotto.com/sr/dweber.php

  • http://bwt.jeffotto.com/sr/dweber.php Duane Weber

    HAFC(Hydrogen Assist Fuel Cell) is NOW for most gas autos as an add on at a kit price of $1100. It is installable by most any competent mechanic but needs to be tuned by a certified company mechanic to benefit from the efficiency it can produce. It is guaranteed to provide a minimum of 50% in MPG! Many vehicles are achieving over 100MPG. See http://bwt.jeffotto.com/sr/dweber.php

  • Charley Snider

    Hey guys, I found the designers website, this guy is f***ing amazing!

    http://www.gryphonauto.com/

    Evidently his name is Jonathan Griffin & I think he does this sh*t all by himself. I don’t know if this tech is real or not, but godd*mn, if one guy pulled this off, I wonder what other cool stuff we’ll see in the next few years! I hope Tesla or Lotus hires him.

  • Charley Snider

    Hey guys, I found the designers website, this guy is f***ing amazing!

    http://www.gryphonauto.com/

    Evidently his name is Jonathan Griffin & I think he does this sh*t all by himself. I don’t know if this tech is real or not, but godd*mn, if one guy pulled this off, I wonder what other cool stuff we’ll see in the next few years! I hope Tesla or Lotus hires him.

  • Charley Snider

    Hey guys, I found the designers website, this guy is f***ing amazing!

    http://www.gryphonauto.com/

    Evidently his name is Jonathan Griffin & I think he does this sh*t all by himself. I don’t know if this tech is real or not, but godd*mn, if one guy pulled this off, I wonder what other cool stuff we’ll see in the next few years! I hope Tesla or Lotus hires him.

  • eeezzzyyy

    What many don’t know or understand is that this tech has been around for decades. There are engines that can and do run soley on HHO from a hydrogen generator. The reason people haven’t heard of it is big oil doesn’t want you to or they would be out of business. HHO will run just about any internal combustion engine. Car, truck, train, plane, ect. HHO is almost here. Fossil fuels demand will deminish greatly. The oil producers know this and are ripping off the world for every last dime they can get before this Hydrogen tech takes over. Only problem is, before it does take over, gas in the US will hit $10 a gallon.

  • eeezzzyyy

    What many don’t know or understand is that this tech has been around for decades. There are engines that can and do run soley on HHO from a hydrogen generator. The reason people haven’t heard of it is big oil doesn’t want you to or they would be out of business. HHO will run just about any internal combustion engine. Car, truck, train, plane, ect. HHO is almost here. Fossil fuels demand will deminish greatly. The oil producers know this and are ripping off the world for every last dime they can get before this Hydrogen tech takes over. Only problem is, before it does take over, gas in the US will hit $10 a gallon.

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    Nice!

  • http://www.waterpetrolcar.com Save Gas

    Nice!

  • http://hydrogenfuel4cars.blogspot.com/ Craig

    I read this blog pertaining to a relatively inexpensive way to burn Hydrogen in your car. Its not the home made mayonnaise jar crap, its a professionally manufactured one out of stainless steel. Looks interesting. Just a FYI. The blog is

    http://hydrogenfuel4cars.blogspot.com/

  • http://hydrogenfuel4cars.blogspot.com/ Craig

    I read this blog pertaining to a relatively inexpensive way to burn Hydrogen in your car. Its not the home made mayonnaise jar crap, its a professionally manufactured one out of stainless steel. Looks interesting. Just a FYI. The blog is

    http://hydrogenfuel4cars.blogspot.com/

  • http://hydrogenfuel4cars.blogspot.com/ Craig

    I read this blog pertaining to a relatively inexpensive way to burn Hydrogen in your car. Its not the home made mayonnaise jar crap, its a professionally manufactured one out of stainless steel. Looks interesting. Just a FYI. The blog is

    http://hydrogenfuel4cars.blogspot.com/

  • Scott

    Sheri,

    Have you ever heard of desalization plants. They can take remove salt from saltwater and as we know about 70% of the planet is covered by water – 236 billion trillion gallons. That is a whole lot more feasable them corn, bio fuels and gosh – oil and it has a reusable bi product…water!

  • Scott

    Sheri,

    Have you ever heard of desalization plants. They can take remove salt from saltwater and as we know about 70% of the planet is covered by water – 236 billion trillion gallons. That is a whole lot more feasable them corn, bio fuels and gosh – oil and it has a reusable bi product…water!

  • http://www.motorcarscleveland.com Dee Mullen

    Correct me if I’m wrong… but didn’t Honda develop the first hydrogen car??? It’s called the FCX and came out in the late 1990s. I will be writing a blog about this vehicle line on my website http://www.motorcarscleveland.com You should go check it out. There will be video footage and all kinds of neat media proving how environmentally safe and efficient this car is.

  • http://www.motorcarscleveland.com Dee Mullen

    Correct me if I’m wrong… but didn’t Honda develop the first hydrogen car??? It’s called the FCX and came out in the late 1990s. I will be writing a blog about this vehicle line on my website http://www.motorcarscleveland.com You should go check it out. There will be video footage and all kinds of neat media proving how environmentally safe and efficient this car is.

  • http://www.motorcarscleveland.com Dee Mullen

    Correct me if I’m wrong… but didn’t Honda develop the first hydrogen car??? It’s called the FCX and came out in the late 1990s. I will be writing a blog about this vehicle line on my website http://www.motorcarscleveland.com You should go check it out. There will be video footage and all kinds of neat media proving how environmentally safe and efficient this car is.

  • Nick Chambers

    @ Dee Mullen

    Honda developed a hydrogen fuel cell car. The automobile in this article is a fundamentally different car. There is no fuel cell. It runs on a combination of normal gas and hydrogen. The hydrogen in this car is created from the on-board splitting of water into its component parts… which, if you read through the comments, is in and of itself a controversial topic.

    The FCX has gone through many revisions. The newly released 2008 model is called the FCX Clarity. It will have a production run of only 250-300 cars worldwide. We’ve covered the Clarity in another post.

  • Art

    Awesome looking car! Especially, the blue & green version. I’m a believer that HHO works. I do mobile mechanic repairs and saw my first D.I.Y. kit under the hood of a 92′ Jeep Cherokee roughly 3 days ago. The gentleman claimed to have been getting 18 mpg using straight unleaded fuel, and 32 mpg after installing the HHO unit.

    Having just finished building, and installing my own version of a home-made HHO system for my 1990 Dodge Ramcharger 4×4, I am HOOKED!!!

    Although, I cannot give the exact increase in mpg as of yet ( still testing the unit) my truck definitely has more HP, and my foots riding higher on the pedal, suggesting better combustion = less fuel. My only concern with the HHO induction system is corrosion, as it has already begun to tarnish the 304 grade stainless steel wire I used as the coil for the fuel cell. I have heard other major car developers using platinum plates, and having similar issues with corrosion on the fuel. Considering the unit I built cost only $45, I’ll gladly replace the coil every 6 months if need be. :)

    Regarding the concern about creating water shortages, the unit I built uses 1 liter of water, and if it works according to the average statistics I’ve researched, should produce the equivalent of 1,800 gallons of fuel (HHO gas), and only needs to be changed every 8 weeks. Amounting to roughly 6 liters = 1.5 gallons of water, per vehicle, per year! And emits water through the exhaust, replacing some of the water safely back into the atmosphere.

    HHO, Brown’s Gas, Water for Fuel has been around for years, and is rumored that the first patent on the hybrid fuel cell (similar to the one I just built) dates back to the 1930′s and was purchased by a petroleum company in an effort to silence HHO’S powerful technology, and redirect the focus on the reliance we placed in gasoline(s).

    If all goes well, I’ll market my version of the HHO Hybrid Kit, and buy one of these Scorpion’s.

    Peace

  • Art

    Awesome looking car! Especially, the blue & green version. I’m a believer that HHO works. I do mobile mechanic repairs and saw my first D.I.Y. kit under the hood of a 92′ Jeep Cherokee roughly 3 days ago. The gentleman claimed to have been getting 18 mpg using straight unleaded fuel, and 32 mpg after installing the HHO unit.

    Having just finished building, and installing my own version of a home-made HHO system for my 1990 Dodge Ramcharger 4×4, I am HOOKED!!!

    Although, I cannot give the exact increase in mpg as of yet ( still testing the unit) my truck definitely has more HP, and my foots riding higher on the pedal, suggesting better combustion = less fuel. My only concern with the HHO induction system is corrosion, as it has already begun to tarnish the 304 grade stainless steel wire I used as the coil for the fuel cell. I have heard other major car developers using platinum plates, and having similar issues with corrosion on the fuel. Considering the unit I built cost only $45, I’ll gladly replace the coil every 6 months if need be. :)

    Regarding the concern about creating water shortages, the unit I built uses 1 liter of water, and if it works according to the average statistics I’ve researched, should produce the equivalent of 1,800 gallons of fuel (HHO gas), and only needs to be changed every 8 weeks. Amounting to roughly 6 liters = 1.5 gallons of water, per vehicle, per year! And emits water through the exhaust, replacing some of the water safely back into the atmosphere.

    HHO, Brown’s Gas, Water for Fuel has been around for years, and is rumored that the first patent on the hybrid fuel cell (similar to the one I just built) dates back to the 1930′s and was purchased by a petroleum company in an effort to silence HHO’S powerful technology, and redirect the focus on the reliance we placed in gasoline(s).

    If all goes well, I’ll market my version of the HHO Hybrid Kit, and buy one of these Scorpion’s.

    Peace

  • Art

    Awesome looking car! Especially, the blue & green version. I’m a believer that HHO works. I do mobile mechanic repairs and saw my first D.I.Y. kit under the hood of a 92′ Jeep Cherokee roughly 3 days ago. The gentleman claimed to have been getting 18 mpg using straight unleaded fuel, and 32 mpg after installing the HHO unit.

    Having just finished building, and installing my own version of a home-made HHO system for my 1990 Dodge Ramcharger 4×4, I am HOOKED!!!

    Although, I cannot give the exact increase in mpg as of yet ( still testing the unit) my truck definitely has more HP, and my foots riding higher on the pedal, suggesting better combustion = less fuel. My only concern with the HHO induction system is corrosion, as it has already begun to tarnish the 304 grade stainless steel wire I used as the coil for the fuel cell. I have heard other major car developers using platinum plates, and having similar issues with corrosion on the fuel. Considering the unit I built cost only $45, I’ll gladly replace the coil every 6 months if need be. :)

    Regarding the concern about creating water shortages, the unit I built uses 1 liter of water, and if it works according to the average statistics I’ve researched, should produce the equivalent of 1,800 gallons of fuel (HHO gas), and only needs to be changed every 8 weeks. Amounting to roughly 6 liters = 1.5 gallons of water, per vehicle, per year! And emits water through the exhaust, replacing some of the water safely back into the atmosphere.

    HHO, Brown’s Gas, Water for Fuel has been around for years, and is rumored that the first patent on the hybrid fuel cell (similar to the one I just built) dates back to the 1930′s and was purchased by a petroleum company in an effort to silence HHO’S powerful technology, and redirect the focus on the reliance we placed in gasoline(s).

    If all goes well, I’ll market my version of the HHO Hybrid Kit, and buy one of these Scorpion’s.

    Peace

  • sandy

    this is brilliant! i had my ben franklin moment last year and have been dreaming of a real hybrid since. it feels very exciting to know that this is a step in human evolution devoting to the preservation phase. smaht! very smaht. noted how the guy said “pick your poisons.” next people should note which potions are “pass” and which are “fail.” after all we have both our vehicles to take care of.

    —sandy “the rebirth of a hypocrite.” :)

  • sandy

    this is brilliant! i had my ben franklin moment last year and have been dreaming of a real hybrid since. it feels very exciting to know that this is a step in human evolution devoting to the preservation phase. smaht! very smaht. noted how the guy said “pick your poisons.” next people should note which potions are “pass” and which are “fail.” after all we have both our vehicles to take care of.

    —sandy “the rebirth of a hypocrite.” :)

  • sandy

    this is brilliant! i had my ben franklin moment last year and have been dreaming of a real hybrid since. it feels very exciting to know that this is a step in human evolution devoting to the preservation phase. smaht! very smaht. noted how the guy said “pick your poisons.” next people should note which potions are “pass” and which are “fail.” after all we have both our vehicles to take care of.

    —sandy “the rebirth of a hypocrite.” :)

  • sandy

    some lady mentions how precious water is and how much we need to conserve it! all the alcohol she’s been consuming on saturday nights is fogging up her brain capacity. through evaporation water is a self recycling resource! it’s one of necessary elements for a reason. think of how grateful the trees would be for this one.

    sandy

  • sandy

    some lady mentions how precious water is and how much we need to conserve it! all the alcohol she’s been consuming on saturday nights is fogging up her brain capacity. through evaporation water is a self recycling resource! it’s one of necessary elements for a reason. think of how grateful the trees would be for this one.

    sandy

  • sandy

    some lady mentions how precious water is and how much we need to conserve it! all the alcohol she’s been consuming on saturday nights is fogging up her brain capacity. through evaporation water is a self recycling resource! it’s one of necessary elements for a reason. think of how grateful the trees would be for this one.

    sandy

  • sandy

    how expensive do they plan on making these things anyway? companies usually tend to get exclusive when they first put something this hot out on the market, but a few years down the road hopefully they’ll make these affordable for everyone. the world doesn’t repair itself overnight. it’s a long process. but i’m so glad to be around to witness this turning of the tide. 10 points awarded to the human team!

  • sandy

    how expensive do they plan on making these things anyway? companies usually tend to get exclusive when they first put something this hot out on the market, but a few years down the road hopefully they’ll make these affordable for everyone. the world doesn’t repair itself overnight. it’s a long process. but i’m so glad to be around to witness this turning of the tide. 10 points awarded to the human team!

  • sandy

    how expensive do they plan on making these things anyway? companies usually tend to get exclusive when they first put something this hot out on the market, but a few years down the road hopefully they’ll make these affordable for everyone. the world doesn’t repair itself overnight. it’s a long process. but i’m so glad to be around to witness this turning of the tide. 10 points awarded to the human team!

  • Paul

    when? and if? this type of car becomes available on a Henry ford type scenario, makes no difference really.

    Has anyone got any solutions for straightening out the failing world economy and the fact that it does wholly rely on oil production.

    MP’s who do have any intelligence will wisely try to pacify the general public so as not to instill mass hysteria.

    the world poulation has over doubled in in just over thirty years.

    so yes ! i’d love a water fueled car too, but only so i can say to the ignorent, i did my bit for cleaning up the planet !

    my educated gestimates tell me that we are not going to last another 100 years or alot less.

    my solution is to get rid of nearly six bilion people but save what we have learned for a new world with less people on it?

    Then we can do the same shit all over again?

    live in hope that YOU MIGHT BE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE A SURVIVOR.

    CAN YOU LIVE WITH THAT ?

  • Paul

    when? and if? this type of car becomes available on a Henry ford type scenario, makes no difference really.

    Has anyone got any solutions for straightening out the failing world economy and the fact that it does wholly rely on oil production.

    MP’s who do have any intelligence will wisely try to pacify the general public so as not to instill mass hysteria.

    the world poulation has over doubled in in just over thirty years.

    so yes ! i’d love a water fueled car too, but only so i can say to the ignorent, i did my bit for cleaning up the planet !

    my educated gestimates tell me that we are not going to last another 100 years or alot less.

    my solution is to get rid of nearly six bilion people but save what we have learned for a new world with less people on it?

    Then we can do the same shit all over again?

    live in hope that YOU MIGHT BE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE A SURVIVOR.

    CAN YOU LIVE WITH THAT ?

  • Paul

    when? and if? this type of car becomes available on a Henry ford type scenario, makes no difference really.

    Has anyone got any solutions for straightening out the failing world economy and the fact that it does wholly rely on oil production.

    MP’s who do have any intelligence will wisely try to pacify the general public so as not to instill mass hysteria.

    the world poulation has over doubled in in just over thirty years.

    so yes ! i’d love a water fueled car too, but only so i can say to the ignorent, i did my bit for cleaning up the planet !

    my educated gestimates tell me that we are not going to last another 100 years or alot less.

    my solution is to get rid of nearly six bilion people but save what we have learned for a new world with less people on it?

    Then we can do the same shit all over again?

    live in hope that YOU MIGHT BE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE A SURVIVOR.

    CAN YOU LIVE WITH THAT ?

  • http://www.boatwagons.com john S

    Have worn out honda civic 1.5. 1995 model. Have installed the very basic hydrogen rig with the additional condenser jar. Ran the car dry. Put two gallons in. 25 miles into the test run to empty again. Notes: the car starts much faster, idles smoother, the plugs are half as tan as they were. If I make another fifty miles in the next two days my mpg will have gone from 25 to 33+. Combo light city plus hwy. So far so good. Next install 2005 chevy Blazer 20 mpg best hwy with straight six. You see more home done rigs. Every place I go to buy wire, switches, tubing the retailers ask if mine is working yet. I’ll take a 30 % increase any day just look around you. Liked the custom but out of the regular guys buget.

  • http://www.boatwagons.com john S

    Have worn out honda civic 1.5. 1995 model. Have installed the very basic hydrogen rig with the additional condenser jar. Ran the car dry. Put two gallons in. 25 miles into the test run to empty again. Notes: the car starts much faster, idles smoother, the plugs are half as tan as they were. If I make another fifty miles in the next two days my mpg will have gone from 25 to 33+. Combo light city plus hwy. So far so good. Next install 2005 chevy Blazer 20 mpg best hwy with straight six. You see more home done rigs. Every place I go to buy wire, switches, tubing the retailers ask if mine is working yet. I’ll take a 30 % increase any day just look around you. Liked the custom but out of the regular guys buget.

  • http://www.boatwagons.com john S

    Have worn out honda civic 1.5. 1995 model. Have installed the very basic hydrogen rig with the additional condenser jar. Ran the car dry. Put two gallons in. 25 miles into the test run to empty again. Notes: the car starts much faster, idles smoother, the plugs are half as tan as they were. If I make another fifty miles in the next two days my mpg will have gone from 25 to 33+. Combo light city plus hwy. So far so good. Next install 2005 chevy Blazer 20 mpg best hwy with straight six. You see more home done rigs. Every place I go to buy wire, switches, tubing the retailers ask if mine is working yet. I’ll take a 30 % increase any day just look around you. Liked the custom but out of the regular guys buget.

  • http://www.boatwagons.com john S

    Have worn out honda civic 1.5. 1995 model. Have installed the very basic hydrogen rig with the additional condenser jar. Ran the car dry. Put two gallons in. 25 miles into the test run to empty again. Notes: the car starts much faster, idles smoother, the plugs are half as tan as they were. If I make another fifty miles in the next two days my mpg will have gone from 25 to 33+. Combo light city plus hwy. So far so good. Next install 2005 chevy Blazer 20 mpg best hwy with straight six. You see more home done rigs. Every place I go to buy wire, switches, tubing the retailers ask if mine is working yet. I’ll take a 30 % increase any day just look around you. Liked the custom but out of the regular guys buget.

  • Ron

    I read one comment regarding the waste of precious clean water. The electrical reaction to release HHO requires good conductivity. Distilled water is a poor conductor. The best is a mineral laden water, such as salt water, very hard water or baking soda and water. I’ve tried this in the lab with low DC current. Without adding minerals, there’s little or no reaction. When done properly, it generates a gas (probably hydrogen), that when ignited, gives off a high-pitched “pop”.

  • Ron

    I read one comment regarding the waste of precious clean water. The electrical reaction to release HHO requires good conductivity. Distilled water is a poor conductor. The best is a mineral laden water, such as salt water, very hard water or baking soda and water. I’ve tried this in the lab with low DC current. Without adding minerals, there’s little or no reaction. When done properly, it generates a gas (probably hydrogen), that when ignited, gives off a high-pitched “pop”.

  • Ron

    I read one comment regarding the waste of precious clean water. The electrical reaction to release HHO requires good conductivity. Distilled water is a poor conductor. The best is a mineral laden water, such as salt water, very hard water or baking soda and water. I’ve tried this in the lab with low DC current. Without adding minerals, there’s little or no reaction. When done properly, it generates a gas (probably hydrogen), that when ignited, gives off a high-pitched “pop”.

  • Ron

    I read one comment regarding the waste of precious clean water. The electrical reaction to release HHO requires good conductivity. Distilled water is a poor conductor. The best is a mineral laden water, such as salt water, very hard water or baking soda and water. I’ve tried this in the lab with low DC current. Without adding minerals, there’s little or no reaction. When done properly, it generates a gas (probably hydrogen), that when ignited, gives off a high-pitched “pop”.

  • http://Water4octane.com Mike O’Brien

    Very nice looking car….now, how about one that is practical and hauls kids! I have been watching vehicles for years with adoration. Everytime a new model comes out that gets great mileage, it is shortly there after discontinued with the newer replacement getting less yet. For instance, the little Ford Fiesta which got 34-36mpg respectively. It was replaced with the Festiva(I own one) which came in about 38-40mpg. It was replaced by the Aspire which attained 46-50mpg. Then the Focus came out, which in all embarassment sees 26-28mpg(my neighbor gets 21 in her new one. Now there are folks who have seen more or less mpg then these, but you see what I am saying. Every car manufacturer has had more then one that got terrific mileage over the years, then it was replaced by something much less then satisfactory in the mpg arena.

    I became interested in saving gas some years ago and set out on a quest to maximize the mpg of my own vehciles through the conventional methods of tune-ups etc. Last year I heard of the “On-Demand” hydrogen systems and saw the “Water4gas” ideas. Great books, full of useful info, some good and some not so good. I make my own systems and installed it on my little 91′ Festiva. Wow, it went from 38mpg to 46mpg, with a noticable increase in power as well. I then installed a second one and attained 50mpg. I have stayed consistant in the 48-51mpg range for the past couple of months. Just last week, I added a “Condensator”. I just tested it two days ago and went 231 miles on 3.8 gallons. Doing the math, that is 60mpg.

    We also have a 1996 Chevy 2500 Suburban 4×4 kid hauler with the Vortec 7.4L. It is a big, heavy, gas guzzlin’ work of art from Chevrolet(they should be ashamed to turn something out like that). Anyway, it comes in at an average of 8-9mpg. I added three of the Water4gas type devices in series, added one of the electrical devices they also recommend and have attained 16mpg., with a best of 16.2mpg. I just added one of the Condensators as well and we will see what it will go up to now.

    I have personally installed nearly 60 systems the past several months for others and helped that many again for sure make their own. Diesels respond well with the simple Water4gas type systems with a few simple design modifications that I have come up with. Consequently, pre-97′ gasoline vehicles respond well for the most part, any older carburated ones respond impressively. The 1998 and newer gasoline vehicles I find require the help of a few electrical devices and some tuning. The factory computer system is more restrictive and only allows a slight variance in the sensors.

    Every diesel vehicle I have done or assisted with has seen very good mpg gains, some better then others of course though usually 5-9mpg gains. The technology is out there folks. In 1982, I personally saw an older chevy vega that started on gasoline and once warmed up, the owner would switch it over to hydrogen that he made from water with a device under the hood of the vehicle. I wish I would have paid more attention to the older gentelman then, he shortly there after was visited by four oriental gentlemen dressed very nicely in suits and all carrying brief cases. An hour or so later, the four of them all left(with their briefcases) and so did the older man. I never saw him after that or his old water-car.

    I am learning more about the Hydrogen On-Demand systems, and know this is where our future lies. My lawn mower will run on it next, then I will move to my little car. It sure is fun to experiment with and most enjoyable seeing folks’ faces when they come by with their fuel receipts in hand and their mileage written on them boasting reasonable mpg gains! Get involved Folks. I say it again, Get Involved.

    The car manufacturers and Oil interests want you to remain dependant on them. They would have you believe the only way to use Hydrogen is to trade one shackle and chain at the gas pump for another one at the Hydrogen pump!

    I will gladly respond to all of your questions as time allows. Build one of your own kits with your spouse or kids or buy one already made from someone. Install it and start saving now! I would like to hear your responses, comments, trials, attempts and curiousity. My family time is precious to me, so Please leave the negativity somewhere else. Nay-sayers need not respond or waste our time.

    Thank you so very much for your time and efforts to bring us the currnet flow of info from the fuel economy efforts!

    Mike O’Brien

    BillandMike@water4octane.com

  • http://Water4octane.com Mike O’Brien

    Very nice looking car….now, how about one that is practical and hauls kids! I have been watching vehicles for years with adoration. Everytime a new model comes out that gets great mileage, it is shortly there after discontinued with the newer replacement getting less yet. For instance, the little Ford Fiesta which got 34-36mpg respectively. It was replaced with the Festiva(I own one) which came in about 38-40mpg. It was replaced by the Aspire which attained 46-50mpg. Then the Focus came out, which in all embarassment sees 26-28mpg(my neighbor gets 21 in her new one. Now there are folks who have seen more or less mpg then these, but you see what I am saying. Every car manufacturer has had more then one that got terrific mileage over the years, then it was replaced by something much less then satisfactory in the mpg arena.

    I became interested in saving gas some years ago and set out on a quest to maximize the mpg of my own vehciles through the conventional methods of tune-ups etc. Last year I heard of the “On-Demand” hydrogen systems and saw the “Water4gas” ideas. Great books, full of useful info, some good and some not so good. I make my own systems and installed it on my little 91′ Festiva. Wow, it went from 38mpg to 46mpg, with a noticable increase in power as well. I then installed a second one and attained 50mpg. I have stayed consistant in the 48-51mpg range for the past couple of months. Just last week, I added a “Condensator”. I just tested it two days ago and went 231 miles on 3.8 gallons. Doing the math, that is 60mpg.

    We also have a 1996 Chevy 2500 Suburban 4×4 kid hauler with the Vortec 7.4L. It is a big, heavy, gas guzzlin’ work of art from Chevrolet(they should be ashamed to turn something out like that). Anyway, it comes in at an average of 8-9mpg. I added three of the Water4gas type devices in series, added one of the electrical devices they also recommend and have attained 16mpg., with a best of 16.2mpg. I just added one of the Condensators as well and we will see what it will go up to now.

    I have personally installed nearly 60 systems the past several months for others and helped that many again for sure make their own. Diesels respond well with the simple Water4gas type systems with a few simple design modifications that I have come up with. Consequently, pre-97′ gasoline vehicles respond well for the most part, any older carburated ones respond impressively. The 1998 and newer gasoline vehicles I find require the help of a few electrical devices and some tuning. The factory computer system is more restrictive and only allows a slight variance in the sensors.

    Every diesel vehicle I have done or assisted with has seen very good mpg gains, some better then others of course though usually 5-9mpg gains. The technology is out there folks. In 1982, I personally saw an older chevy vega that started on gasoline and once warmed up, the owner would switch it over to hydrogen that he made from water with a device under the hood of the vehicle. I wish I would have paid more attention to the older gentelman then, he shortly there after was visited by four oriental gentlemen dressed very nicely in suits and all carrying brief cases. An hour or so later, the four of them all left(with their briefcases) and so did the older man. I never saw him after that or his old water-car.

    I am learning more about the Hydrogen On-Demand systems, and know this is where our future lies. My lawn mower will run on it next, then I will move to my little car. It sure is fun to experiment with and most enjoyable seeing folks’ faces when they come by with their fuel receipts in hand and their mileage written on them boasting reasonable mpg gains! Get involved Folks. I say it again, Get Involved.

    The car manufacturers and Oil interests want you to remain dependant on them. They would have you believe the only way to use Hydrogen is to trade one shackle and chain at the gas pump for another one at the Hydrogen pump!

    I will gladly respond to all of your questions as time allows. Build one of your own kits with your spouse or kids or buy one already made from someone. Install it and start saving now! I would like to hear your responses, comments, trials, attempts and curiousity. My family time is precious to me, so Please leave the negativity somewhere else. Nay-sayers need not respond or waste our time.

    Thank you so very much for your time and efforts to bring us the currnet flow of info from the fuel economy efforts!

    Mike O’Brien

    BillandMike@water4octane.com

  • http://Water4octane.com Mike O’Brien

    Very nice looking car….now, how about one that is practical and hauls kids! I have been watching vehicles for years with adoration. Everytime a new model comes out that gets great mileage, it is shortly there after discontinued with the newer replacement getting less yet. For instance, the little Ford Fiesta which got 34-36mpg respectively. It was replaced with the Festiva(I own one) which came in about 38-40mpg. It was replaced by the Aspire which attained 46-50mpg. Then the Focus came out, which in all embarassment sees 26-28mpg(my neighbor gets 21 in her new one. Now there are folks who have seen more or less mpg then these, but you see what I am saying. Every car manufacturer has had more then one that got terrific mileage over the years, then it was replaced by something much less then satisfactory in the mpg arena.

    I became interested in saving gas some years ago and set out on a quest to maximize the mpg of my own vehciles through the conventional methods of tune-ups etc. Last year I heard of the “On-Demand” hydrogen systems and saw the “Water4gas” ideas. Great books, full of useful info, some good and some not so good. I make my own systems and installed it on my little 91′ Festiva. Wow, it went from 38mpg to 46mpg, with a noticable increase in power as well. I then installed a second one and attained 50mpg. I have stayed consistant in the 48-51mpg range for the past couple of months. Just last week, I added a “Condensator”. I just tested it two days ago and went 231 miles on 3.8 gallons. Doing the math, that is 60mpg.

    We also have a 1996 Chevy 2500 Suburban 4×4 kid hauler with the Vortec 7.4L. It is a big, heavy, gas guzzlin’ work of art from Chevrolet(they should be ashamed to turn something out like that). Anyway, it comes in at an average of 8-9mpg. I added three of the Water4gas type devices in series, added one of the electrical devices they also recommend and have attained 16mpg., with a best of 16.2mpg. I just added one of the Condensators as well and we will see what it will go up to now.

    I have personally installed nearly 60 systems the past several months for others and helped that many again for sure make their own. Diesels respond well with the simple Water4gas type systems with a few simple design modifications that I have come up with. Consequently, pre-97′ gasoline vehicles respond well for the most part, any older carburated ones respond impressively. The 1998 and newer gasoline vehicles I find require the help of a few electrical devices and some tuning. The factory computer system is more restrictive and only allows a slight variance in the sensors.

    Every diesel vehicle I have done or assisted with has seen very good mpg gains, some better then others of course though usually 5-9mpg gains. The technology is out there folks. In 1982, I personally saw an older chevy vega that started on gasoline and once warmed up, the owner would switch it over to hydrogen that he made from water with a device under the hood of the vehicle. I wish I would have paid more attention to the older gentelman then, he shortly there after was visited by four oriental gentlemen dressed very nicely in suits and all carrying brief cases. An hour or so later, the four of them all left(with their briefcases) and so did the older man. I never saw him after that or his old water-car.

    I am learning more about the Hydrogen On-Demand systems, and know this is where our future lies. My lawn mower will run on it next, then I will move to my little car. It sure is fun to experiment with and most enjoyable seeing folks’ faces when they come by with their fuel receipts in hand and their mileage written on them boasting reasonable mpg gains! Get involved Folks. I say it again, Get Involved.

    The car manufacturers and Oil interests want you to remain dependant on them. They would have you believe the only way to use Hydrogen is to trade one shackle and chain at the gas pump for another one at the Hydrogen pump!

    I will gladly respond to all of your questions as time allows. Build one of your own kits with your spouse or kids or buy one already made from someone. Install it and start saving now! I would like to hear your responses, comments, trials, attempts and curiousity. My family time is precious to me, so Please leave the negativity somewhere else. Nay-sayers need not respond or waste our time.

    Thank you so very much for your time and efforts to bring us the currnet flow of info from the fuel economy efforts!

    Mike O’Brien

    BillandMike@water4octane.com

  • Jason Ricketts

    Nice article Mike. I just ordered a pre-assembled kit with the MAP resistor to use on my 4×4 Chev w/7.4l vortec. It uses both a MAF sensor and a MAP sensor. Do you know which circuit I should modify to get the best results? I think the MAF sensor may be frequency based but I haven’t gotten that far yet as I haven’t received all my parts yet. Any helpful info would be appreciated. Thanks,

    Jason Ricketts

    Riverdale, UT

  • Jason Ricketts

    Nice article Mike. I just ordered a pre-assembled kit with the MAP resistor to use on my 4×4 Chev w/7.4l vortec. It uses both a MAF sensor and a MAP sensor. Do you know which circuit I should modify to get the best results? I think the MAF sensor may be frequency based but I haven’t gotten that far yet as I haven’t received all my parts yet. Any helpful info would be appreciated. Thanks,

    Jason Ricketts

    Riverdale, UT

  • Jackie

    i love this car i want it so bad but i will never be able to afford it!!! give me one as a trial and i will let you know how it rides!

  • Jackie

    i love this car i want it so bad but i will never be able to afford it!!! give me one as a trial and i will let you know how it rides!

  • Jackie

    i love this car i want it so bad but i will never be able to afford it!!! give me one as a trial and i will let you know how it rides!

  • http://none Stephanie

    I’m stuck on the hydrogen hybrid concept. There’s this guy in my neighborhood selling a device for $650. He installs it under your hood, it theoretically splits water, sends the gas(hydrogen & water) into the carborater and increases the fuel efficiency of any car. He claims that his truck is now getting 45 and a woman with an old Prius who was getting 35-40 now gets 70. I have heard that it takes more energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen than it will generate. So here’s my question: Would injecting steam into a carborator actually help mileage, or is this just a scam?

  • http://www.water4gasonline.com/ alex

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  • http://www.water4gasonline.com/ alex

    Thanks for sharing. It is useful for me.

  • http://www.water4gasonline.com/ alex

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  • Geoff

    if anybody thinks that burning hydrogen from water somehow DESTROYS the water, is…well..APOXIC. Come up for air, please. Hydrogen recombines with atmospheric ( or with the co-generated oxygen in the case of HHO ) to form…(drum roll)…>WATER! again! My argument is that we’ve never really given ample consideration to the air/gas portion of fuel combustion,and HHO-(hydrogen) hybrid technology will improve both consumption and performance of an engine; we’ll be able to use even smaller engines and enjoy more horsepower and cleaner emissions. Please, Shari; water won’t be harmed in this event.

  • Geoff

    if anybody thinks that burning hydrogen from water somehow DESTROYS the water, is…well..APOXIC. Come up for air, please. Hydrogen recombines with atmospheric ( or with the co-generated oxygen in the case of HHO ) to form…(drum roll)…>WATER! again! My argument is that we’ve never really given ample consideration to the air/gas portion of fuel combustion,and HHO-(hydrogen) hybrid technology will improve both consumption and performance of an engine; we’ll be able to use even smaller engines and enjoy more horsepower and cleaner emissions. Please, Shari; water won’t be harmed in this event.

  • http://slrman.wordpress.com/ James Smith

    It’s 2014. Where is this car and the technology it claims to be so effective and revolutionary?

    • Nick Chambers

      LOL! Exactly! This is a lie designed by the government to fool us into thinking they are going green. They have this technology for sure because the reverse engineered alien technology. Anyway, wherever this technology is now, they are hiding it from us for their own means.

  • Monte
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