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Published on May 27th, 2008 | by Clayton

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An Electric Car You Can Buy Today: The $20K TRIAC EV

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TRIAC Electric Car. Range: 60-100 Miles. Cost: 2 cents per mile

This little number has been getting some good press lately (see EcoGeek and Inhabit), and for good reason: it’s the first commercially available electric vehicle with a price tag and functionality that could meet the needs of the average city driver (assuming you can afford it).

OK, you aren’t going to fit a family of 5 in there, but that’s not what it’s made for. Green Vehicles, manufacturer of the 3-wheeled TRIAC EV, calls it a “modern freeway commuter,” because the zero-emissions vehicle can reach 80 mph and will get you into the carpool lane with a single driver. Safety-wise, it has a structural steel cage the company says is the “same metal skeleton used in race cars” and a low center of gravity to maintain balance (but surprisingly has no airbags).

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Back at home, it takes about 6 hours to charge the car’s lithium-ion batteries at an estimated cost of about 2 cents per mile. Not a bad deal if you can afford the $20,000 price tag. The company website says the TRIAC EV is currently available at dealerships in San Jose and Mill Valley, California, and should be more widely available in the future..

Final thoughts: to me, it looks like they added an extra wheel to a racing bike and built a canopy around it, which makes it a powerful ride but a lot safer (and a lot greener). Generous State/Federal tax credits would put this car within reach for many more drivers, like the $4,000 Federal credit for electric vehicles that ended in 2006.

Want one of these? Check out the Green Vehicles website.

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About the Author

In a past life, Clayton was a professional blogger and editor of Gas 2.0, Important Media’s blog covering the future of sustainable transportation. He was also the Managing Editor for GO Media, the predecessor to Important Media.



  • thomas C Gray

    The Triac is NOT a car – it is a motorcycle, and it does NOT adhere to ANY safety regulations – it was designed with three wheels for that very purpose. Shilling this death trap I consider the sleaziest of the sleaze. I hope the first victim’s families sue your sorry ass.

    As for an “affordable electric car” from Nissan, that’s a joke. A $25,000 vehicle that has a driving radius of less than 50 miles is, stupid fellow, not a

    viable alternative for a gas powered car. Apparently you don’t expect the owners to ever want to leave the county. Just why are you shilling for these useless technologies? Do you own stock in these companies are are you just dumb? What your selling is pure fraud.

    • http://Web John Doe

      Do you have anything positive to say.

  • thomas C Gray

    The Triac is NOT a car – it is a motorcycle, and it does NOT adhere to ANY safety regulations – it was designed with three wheels for that very purpose. Shilling this death trap I consider the sleaziest of the sleaze. I hope the first victim’s families sue your sorry ass.

    As for an “affordable electric car” from Nissan, that’s a joke. A $25,000 vehicle that has a driving radius of less than 50 miles is, stupid fellow, not a

    viable alternative for a gas powered car. Apparently you don’t expect the owners to ever want to leave the county. Just why are you shilling for these useless technologies? Do you own stock in these companies are are you just dumb? What your selling is pure fraud.

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    I think I mentioned something about it looking like a motorcycle somewhere in the post. Thanks for reading the whole thing.

    I’m also pretty sure I’m not liable for damages if someone crashes this car, that the TRIAC has to adhere to some safety regulations to be on the road, and that an all-electric 50 mpg is pretty good, considering most people in this country don’t drive more than that in the average day.

    If these technologies are useless then no one will buy them. Time will tell.

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    I think I mentioned something about it looking like a motorcycle somewhere in the post. Thanks for reading the whole thing.

    I’m also pretty sure I’m not liable for damages if someone crashes this car, that the TRIAC has to adhere to some safety regulations to be on the road, and that an all-electric 50 mpg is pretty good, considering most people in this country don’t drive more than that in the average day.

    If these technologies are useless then no one will buy them. Time will tell.

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    I think I mentioned something about it looking like a motorcycle somewhere in the post. Thanks for reading the whole thing.

    I’m also pretty sure I’m not liable for damages if someone crashes this car, that the TRIAC has to adhere to some safety regulations to be on the road, and that an all-electric 50 mpg is pretty good, considering most people in this country don’t drive more than that in the average day.

    If these technologies are useless then no one will buy them. Time will tell.

  • Eddie

    Historically US Federal Tax Credits for Electric Cars are for just that CARS — 3 wheels is not a car and therefore typically tax incentives do NOT apply. If and when tax policies are changed you have been warned to not believe statements at face value and READ the tax law before spending hard earned monies before you are stiffed the credit.

  • Eddie

    Historically US Federal Tax Credits for Electric Cars are for just that CARS — 3 wheels is not a car and therefore typically tax incentives do NOT apply. If and when tax policies are changed you have been warned to not believe statements at face value and READ the tax law before spending hard earned monies before you are stiffed the credit.

  • Eddie

    Historically US Federal Tax Credits for Electric Cars are for just that CARS — 3 wheels is not a car and therefore typically tax incentives do NOT apply. If and when tax policies are changed you have been warned to not believe statements at face value and READ the tax law before spending hard earned monies before you are stiffed the credit.

  • Hank

    I think what Thom (rather inelegantly) is trying to say, is that according to U.S. law the Triac is a motorcycle. And, as such, doesn’t have to adhere to safety regulations.

    I don’t know what he’s so upset about though. It’s not like there aren’t millions of motorcycles in America already…and they’re certainly more dangerous than the Triac.

  • Hank

    I think what Thom (rather inelegantly) is trying to say, is that according to U.S. law the Triac is a motorcycle. And, as such, doesn’t have to adhere to safety regulations.

    I don’t know what he’s so upset about though. It’s not like there aren’t millions of motorcycles in America already…and they’re certainly more dangerous than the Triac.

  • Joe OBrien

    Thanks for the article. Unfortunately it seems with every car there are mental retards like Thomas C. Gray that think they need to mention the redneck comments of being crushed by a Hummer, or a F250 truck, or an Escalade. Every small environmentally friendly new car always has moronic posts like this attached to it. Let Thomas drive his 10mpg Ford that apparently just drives around smashing smaller cars all day while getting 10mpg.

    Thanks for the info on this future EV.

  • Joe OBrien

    Thanks for the article. Unfortunately it seems with every car there are mental retards like Thomas C. Gray that think they need to mention the redneck comments of being crushed by a Hummer, or a F250 truck, or an Escalade. Every small environmentally friendly new car always has moronic posts like this attached to it. Let Thomas drive his 10mpg Ford that apparently just drives around smashing smaller cars all day while getting 10mpg.

    Thanks for the info on this future EV.

  • Joe OBrien

    Thanks for the article. Unfortunately it seems with every car there are mental retards like Thomas C. Gray that think they need to mention the redneck comments of being crushed by a Hummer, or a F250 truck, or an Escalade. Every small environmentally friendly new car always has moronic posts like this attached to it. Let Thomas drive his 10mpg Ford that apparently just drives around smashing smaller cars all day while getting 10mpg.

    Thanks for the info on this future EV.

  • http://www.nailfile.net Richard

    Personally I wonder why these electric cars have to look like soap boxes. Even the popular Prius looks like a box on wheels. I love the idea but please give me something that I can put my groceries in and won’t make me look like an idiot.

  • http://www.nailfile.net Richard

    Personally I wonder why these electric cars have to look like soap boxes. Even the popular Prius looks like a box on wheels. I love the idea but please give me something that I can put my groceries in and won’t make me look like an idiot.

  • http://www.nailfile.net Richard

    Personally I wonder why these electric cars have to look like soap boxes. Even the popular Prius looks like a box on wheels. I love the idea but please give me something that I can put my groceries in and won’t make me look like an idiot.

  • http://www.nailfile.net Richard

    Personally I wonder why these electric cars have to look like soap boxes. Even the popular Prius looks like a box on wheels. I love the idea but please give me something that I can put my groceries in and won’t make me look like an idiot.

  • http://www.theokobox.com leslie @ the oko box

    Maybe Thomas above, is actually President Bush, writing under an alias ;)

    Cause his agenda seems clear, buy gas and don’t support new technology.

    I can’t wait till I can buy an electric car, in the meantime I have my feet and a bike.

  • http://www.theokobox.com leslie @ the oko box

    Maybe Thomas above, is actually President Bush, writing under an alias ;)

    Cause his agenda seems clear, buy gas and don’t support new technology.

    I can’t wait till I can buy an electric car, in the meantime I have my feet and a bike.

  • http://www.theokobox.com leslie @ the oko box

    Maybe Thomas above, is actually President Bush, writing under an alias ;)

    Cause his agenda seems clear, buy gas and don’t support new technology.

    I can’t wait till I can buy an electric car, in the meantime I have my feet and a bike.

  • drivin98

    Thomas C Gray is NOT a commenter. He’s just a shrill.

    Usually, he comments under the name of Kent Beauchert but he has a bunch of alias’s he uses. Go ahead and google him and check out some of his thousands of ranting/raving comments.

  • drivin98

    Thomas C Gray is NOT a commenter. He’s just a shrill.

    Usually, he comments under the name of Kent Beauchert but he has a bunch of alias’s he uses. Go ahead and google him and check out some of his thousands of ranting/raving comments.

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    Good points here about registration status for these types of vehicles. I think Aptera’s Typ1 will also be registered as a motorcycle.

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    Good points here about registration status for these types of vehicles. I think Aptera’s Typ1 will also be registered as a motorcycle.

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    Good points here about registration status for these types of vehicles. I think Aptera’s Typ1 will also be registered as a motorcycle.

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    Good points here about registration status for these types of vehicles. I think Aptera’s Typ1 will also be registered as a motorcycle.

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    Good points here about registration status for these types of vehicles. I think Aptera’s Typ1 will also be registered as a motorcycle.

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    Good points here about registration status for these types of vehicles. I think Aptera’s Typ1 will also be registered as a motorcycle.

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    Good points here about registration status for these types of vehicles. I think Aptera’s Typ1 will also be registered as a motorcycle.

  • Chris W

    I do think that whatever market / regulatory gains are made by having only three wheels reinforce the “eccentricity” or “weirdness” meme related to electric cars. The Prius, while a bit different than other cars from a looks perspective, is actually a fairly standard car. Although I love the range and the price point of the Triac, having a fourth wheel and two small back seats would have advanced the overall cause by a HUGE extent.

  • Chris W

    I do think that whatever market / regulatory gains are made by having only three wheels reinforce the “eccentricity” or “weirdness” meme related to electric cars. The Prius, while a bit different than other cars from a looks perspective, is actually a fairly standard car. Although I love the range and the price point of the Triac, having a fourth wheel and two small back seats would have advanced the overall cause by a HUGE extent.

  • treewrestler

    I like the idea, Ive even been looking at the T-rex three wheeler as an alternative to high fuel prices. More people will accept the idea in the future when there are less “big” S.U.Vs on the roads. As for people like Thomas he can continue spending half his income on fuel if he wants to, and I’ll keep riding my motorcycle.

  • treewrestler

    I like the idea, Ive even been looking at the T-rex three wheeler as an alternative to high fuel prices. More people will accept the idea in the future when there are less “big” S.U.Vs on the roads. As for people like Thomas he can continue spending half his income on fuel if he wants to, and I’ll keep riding my motorcycle.

  • treewrestler

    I like the idea, Ive even been looking at the T-rex three wheeler as an alternative to high fuel prices. More people will accept the idea in the future when there are less “big” S.U.Vs on the roads. As for people like Thomas he can continue spending half his income on fuel if he wants to, and I’ll keep riding my motorcycle.

  • treewrestler

    I like the idea, Ive even been looking at the T-rex three wheeler as an alternative to high fuel prices. More people will accept the idea in the future when there are less “big” S.U.Vs on the roads. As for people like Thomas he can continue spending half his income on fuel if he wants to, and I’ll keep riding my motorcycle.

  • treewrestler

    I like the idea, Ive even been looking at the T-rex three wheeler as an alternative to high fuel prices. More people will accept the idea in the future when there are less “big” S.U.Vs on the roads. As for people like Thomas he can continue spending half his income on fuel if he wants to, and I’ll keep riding my motorcycle.

  • Nick Lopez

    I think it looks incredibly elegant, considering what it is. The styling is ultra postmodern, for sure, but sexy, IMHO.

  • Nick Lopez

    I think it looks incredibly elegant, considering what it is. The styling is ultra postmodern, for sure, but sexy, IMHO.

  • Nick Lopez

    I think it looks incredibly elegant, considering what it is. The styling is ultra postmodern, for sure, but sexy, IMHO.

  • Nick Lopez

    I think it looks incredibly elegant, considering what it is. The styling is ultra postmodern, for sure, but sexy, IMHO.

  • James M

    It’s a motorcycle. That’s not a problem, except to those of us without a motorcycle license. Here in southern Ontario, that’s an 18 month graduated process with two roadtests, and no credit given for the fact that you might already hold a valid drivers license (in my case for more than 2 decades). Then we have to insure it as a motorcycle… and in the eyes of the insurance company, we’re newbies and must pay accordingly (in other words, they bend you over and rape your ass.) Yeah I think i’ll wait for something with 4 wheels, thanks.

  • James M

    It’s a motorcycle. That’s not a problem, except to those of us without a motorcycle license. Here in southern Ontario, that’s an 18 month graduated process with two roadtests, and no credit given for the fact that you might already hold a valid drivers license (in my case for more than 2 decades). Then we have to insure it as a motorcycle… and in the eyes of the insurance company, we’re newbies and must pay accordingly (in other words, they bend you over and rape your ass.) Yeah I think i’ll wait for something with 4 wheels, thanks.

  • James M

    It’s a motorcycle. That’s not a problem, except to those of us without a motorcycle license. Here in southern Ontario, that’s an 18 month graduated process with two roadtests, and no credit given for the fact that you might already hold a valid drivers license (in my case for more than 2 decades). Then we have to insure it as a motorcycle… and in the eyes of the insurance company, we’re newbies and must pay accordingly (in other words, they bend you over and rape your ass.) Yeah I think i’ll wait for something with 4 wheels, thanks.

  • James M

    It’s a motorcycle. That’s not a problem, except to those of us without a motorcycle license. Here in southern Ontario, that’s an 18 month graduated process with two roadtests, and no credit given for the fact that you might already hold a valid drivers license (in my case for more than 2 decades). Then we have to insure it as a motorcycle… and in the eyes of the insurance company, we’re newbies and must pay accordingly (in other words, they bend you over and rape your ass.) Yeah I think i’ll wait for something with 4 wheels, thanks.

  • John S

    Another question that needs to be answered is the cost of upkeep.

    Motorcycles typically need new tires every 5K miles or less at about $100 each. I don’t have the time to wait at a garage while the change tires every few months.

    How long do the batteries last and what’s the cost to replace them and dispose of the old ones?

  • John S

    Another question that needs to be answered is the cost of upkeep.

    Motorcycles typically need new tires every 5K miles or less at about $100 each. I don’t have the time to wait at a garage while the change tires every few months.

    How long do the batteries last and what’s the cost to replace them and dispose of the old ones?

  • John S

    Another question that needs to be answered is the cost of upkeep.

    Motorcycles typically need new tires every 5K miles or less at about $100 each. I don’t have the time to wait at a garage while the change tires every few months.

    How long do the batteries last and what’s the cost to replace them and dispose of the old ones?

  • The Heretic

    In most US locales, this would indeed be licensed/sold/registered as a motorcycle. That does not make it a “death trap” (I have ridden motorcycles for 40 years and I am still alive), it does make it less safe than a car. About the only safety regs a motorcycle has to meet is lighting and signalling. That doesn’t mean that such a vehicle couldn’t be designed with airbags, crush protection, seat belts and so on – it just means that by law it doesn’t have to be.

    I would not necessarily recommend this for somebody to haul their kids around in – but for a single person who lives where there is inclement weather and/or needs to haul groceries, it might be a good alternative to a car.

    Also, note that in many locales, motorcycles are allowed to use HOV lanes – even with a single passenger/rider/driver.

    The point about the limited range is an important one though; most people commute a short distance, so the range is adequate for that. But until the cost comes way down (less than half) or the range is increased, such vehicles won’t sell widely. Most people can’t afford one car for commuting and another for longer trips. This is why hybrids will be the most adopted solution until these problems of range and refueling are addressed.

    Personally, I await the Venture One hybrid. It has the range, the refueling, it leans like my motorcycles, it can be driven in inclement weather, it can haul groceries, and hopefully it will cost under $25K US. It also looks much better than most of the competition.

  • The Heretic

    In most US locales, this would indeed be licensed/sold/registered as a motorcycle. That does not make it a “death trap” (I have ridden motorcycles for 40 years and I am still alive), it does make it less safe than a car. About the only safety regs a motorcycle has to meet is lighting and signalling. That doesn’t mean that such a vehicle couldn’t be designed with airbags, crush protection, seat belts and so on – it just means that by law it doesn’t have to be.

    I would not necessarily recommend this for somebody to haul their kids around in – but for a single person who lives where there is inclement weather and/or needs to haul groceries, it might be a good alternative to a car.

    Also, note that in many locales, motorcycles are allowed to use HOV lanes – even with a single passenger/rider/driver.

    The point about the limited range is an important one though; most people commute a short distance, so the range is adequate for that. But until the cost comes way down (less than half) or the range is increased, such vehicles won’t sell widely. Most people can’t afford one car for commuting and another for longer trips. This is why hybrids will be the most adopted solution until these problems of range and refueling are addressed.

    Personally, I await the Venture One hybrid. It has the range, the refueling, it leans like my motorcycles, it can be driven in inclement weather, it can haul groceries, and hopefully it will cost under $25K US. It also looks much better than most of the competition.

  • The Heretic

    In most US locales, this would indeed be licensed/sold/registered as a motorcycle. That does not make it a “death trap” (I have ridden motorcycles for 40 years and I am still alive), it does make it less safe than a car. About the only safety regs a motorcycle has to meet is lighting and signalling. That doesn’t mean that such a vehicle couldn’t be designed with airbags, crush protection, seat belts and so on – it just means that by law it doesn’t have to be.

    I would not necessarily recommend this for somebody to haul their kids around in – but for a single person who lives where there is inclement weather and/or needs to haul groceries, it might be a good alternative to a car.

    Also, note that in many locales, motorcycles are allowed to use HOV lanes – even with a single passenger/rider/driver.

    The point about the limited range is an important one though; most people commute a short distance, so the range is adequate for that. But until the cost comes way down (less than half) or the range is increased, such vehicles won’t sell widely. Most people can’t afford one car for commuting and another for longer trips. This is why hybrids will be the most adopted solution until these problems of range and refueling are addressed.

    Personally, I await the Venture One hybrid. It has the range, the refueling, it leans like my motorcycles, it can be driven in inclement weather, it can haul groceries, and hopefully it will cost under $25K US. It also looks much better than most of the competition.

  • The Heretic

    In most US locales, this would indeed be licensed/sold/registered as a motorcycle. That does not make it a “death trap” (I have ridden motorcycles for 40 years and I am still alive), it does make it less safe than a car. About the only safety regs a motorcycle has to meet is lighting and signalling. That doesn’t mean that such a vehicle couldn’t be designed with airbags, crush protection, seat belts and so on – it just means that by law it doesn’t have to be.

    I would not necessarily recommend this for somebody to haul their kids around in – but for a single person who lives where there is inclement weather and/or needs to haul groceries, it might be a good alternative to a car.

    Also, note that in many locales, motorcycles are allowed to use HOV lanes – even with a single passenger/rider/driver.

    The point about the limited range is an important one though; most people commute a short distance, so the range is adequate for that. But until the cost comes way down (less than half) or the range is increased, such vehicles won’t sell widely. Most people can’t afford one car for commuting and another for longer trips. This is why hybrids will be the most adopted solution until these problems of range and refueling are addressed.

    Personally, I await the Venture One hybrid. It has the range, the refueling, it leans like my motorcycles, it can be driven in inclement weather, it can haul groceries, and hopefully it will cost under $25K US. It also looks much better than most of the competition.

  • John Thomas

    Looks cute but I sure wouldnt want to be rear ended by a truck in one of those things.

    JT

    http://www.Privacy-Center.net

  • John Thomas

    Looks cute but I sure wouldnt want to be rear ended by a truck in one of those things.

    JT

    http://www.Privacy-Center.net

  • John Thomas

    Looks cute but I sure wouldnt want to be rear ended by a truck in one of those things.

    JT

    http://www.Privacy-Center.net

  • John Thomas

    Looks cute but I sure wouldnt want to be rear ended by a truck in one of those things.

    JT

    http://www.Privacy-Center.net

  • John Thomas

    Looks cute but I sure wouldnt want to be rear ended by a truck in one of those things.

    JT

    http://www.Privacy-Center.net

  • John Thomas

    Looks cute but I sure wouldnt want to be rear ended by a truck in one of those things.

    JT

    http://www.Privacy-Center.net

  • John S

    Another question that needs to be answered is the cost of upkeep.

    Motorcycles typically need new tires every 5K miles or less at about $100 each. I don’t have the time to wait at a garage while the change tires every few months.

    How long do the batteries last and what’s the cost to replace them and dispose of the old ones?

  • The Heretic

    In most US locales, this would indeed be licensed/sold/registered as a motorcycle. That does not make it a “death trap” (I have ridden motorcycles for 40 years and I am still alive), it does make it less safe than a car. About the only safety regs a motorcycle has to meet is lighting and signalling. That doesn’t mean that such a vehicle couldn’t be designed with airbags, crush protection, seat belts and so on – it just means that by law it doesn’t have to be.

    I would not necessarily recommend this for somebody to haul their kids around in – but for a single person who lives where there is inclement weather and/or needs to haul groceries, it might be a good alternative to a car.

    Also, note that in many locales, motorcycles are allowed to use HOV lanes – even with a single passenger/rider/driver.

    The point about the limited range is an important one though; most people commute a short distance, so the range is adequate for that. But until the cost comes way down (less than half) or the range is increased, such vehicles won’t sell widely. Most people can’t afford one car for commuting and another for longer trips. This is why hybrids will be the most adopted solution until these problems of range and refueling are addressed.

    Personally, I await the Venture One hybrid. It has the range, the refueling, it leans like my motorcycles, it can be driven in inclement weather, it can haul groceries, and hopefully it will cost under $25K US. It also looks much better than most of the competition.

  • John Thomas

    Looks cute but I sure wouldnt want to be rear ended by a truck in one of those things.

    JT

    http://www.Privacy-Center.net

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  • http://www.linkerjpatrick.com Patrick

    No thanks. I don’t want to drive a wimpmobile.

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  • Drive Green

    Thomas C Gray = Exxon Mobil Executive

  • Drive Green

    Thomas C Gray = Exxon Mobil Executive

  • Drive Green

    Thomas C Gray = Exxon Mobil Executive

  • Chris Allegretta

    Wow, after noticing how thomas C Gray in fact does in fact post these garbage comments on so many post about alternative energy cars, I think I’ll actually go out and try one. Thanks Thomas, good reverse psychology you have going there!

  • Chris Allegretta

    Wow, after noticing how thomas C Gray in fact does in fact post these garbage comments on so many post about alternative energy cars, I think I’ll actually go out and try one. Thanks Thomas, good reverse psychology you have going there!

  • Chris Allegretta

    Wow, after noticing how thomas C Gray in fact does in fact post these garbage comments on so many post about alternative energy cars, I think I’ll actually go out and try one. Thanks Thomas, good reverse psychology you have going there!

  • Chris Allegretta

    Wow, after noticing how thomas C Gray in fact does in fact post these garbage comments on so many post about alternative energy cars, I think I’ll actually go out and try one. Thanks Thomas, good reverse psychology you have going there!

  • Chris Allegretta

    Wow, after noticing how thomas C Gray in fact does in fact post these garbage comments on so many post about alternative energy cars, I think I’ll actually go out and try one. Thanks Thomas, good reverse psychology you have going there!

  • Rickerus

    hmmm, I googled him and this is what I got:

    Thomas C Gray – Florida Sexual Offender

    Name: Thomas C Gray. Status: State Incarceration. Department of Corrections #: 048426 Search the Dept of Corrections Website. Date of Birth: 04/05/1952

    I guess that makes sense (?)

  • Rickerus

    hmmm, I googled him and this is what I got:

    Thomas C Gray – Florida Sexual Offender

    Name: Thomas C Gray. Status: State Incarceration. Department of Corrections #: 048426 Search the Dept of Corrections Website. Date of Birth: 04/05/1952

    I guess that makes sense (?)

  • Rickerus

    hmmm, I googled him and this is what I got:

    Thomas C Gray – Florida Sexual Offender

    Name: Thomas C Gray. Status: State Incarceration. Department of Corrections #: 048426 Search the Dept of Corrections Website. Date of Birth: 04/05/1952

    I guess that makes sense (?)

  • Rickerus

    hmmm, I googled him and this is what I got:

    Thomas C Gray – Florida Sexual Offender

    Name: Thomas C Gray. Status: State Incarceration. Department of Corrections #: 048426 Search the Dept of Corrections Website. Date of Birth: 04/05/1952

    I guess that makes sense (?)

  • Rickerus

    hmmm, I googled him and this is what I got:

    Thomas C Gray – Florida Sexual Offender

    Name: Thomas C Gray. Status: State Incarceration. Department of Corrections #: 048426 Search the Dept of Corrections Website. Date of Birth: 04/05/1952

    I guess that makes sense (?)

  • lincmercguy

    make sure you wear a helment, armor, and chappes with this car, because it is a motorcycle. It may have seatbelts, but there are no safety system standards in the US for this type of vehicle. No emmissions standards either, but it shouldn’t have any emissions.

  • lincmercguy

    make sure you wear a helment, armor, and chappes with this car, because it is a motorcycle. It may have seatbelts, but there are no safety system standards in the US for this type of vehicle. No emmissions standards either, but it shouldn’t have any emissions.

  • Sam Crutsinger

    What I find curious is that almost every time I see Thomas C Gray commenting on an article, he’s the first post. I mean wow. That takes dedication to scour the intarweb and post scathing comments within moments of each article going public! Shoot down the competition wherever they pop up. I’m thinking he’s working for Chevy. Extolling the virtues of the Volt is the only positive comment I’ve seen so far from this guy.

  • Sam Crutsinger

    What I find curious is that almost every time I see Thomas C Gray commenting on an article, he’s the first post. I mean wow. That takes dedication to scour the intarweb and post scathing comments within moments of each article going public! Shoot down the competition wherever they pop up. I’m thinking he’s working for Chevy. Extolling the virtues of the Volt is the only positive comment I’ve seen so far from this guy.

  • Sam Crutsinger

    What I find curious is that almost every time I see Thomas C Gray commenting on an article, he’s the first post. I mean wow. That takes dedication to scour the intarweb and post scathing comments within moments of each article going public! Shoot down the competition wherever they pop up. I’m thinking he’s working for Chevy. Extolling the virtues of the Volt is the only positive comment I’ve seen so far from this guy.

  • Sam Crutsinger

    What I find curious is that almost every time I see Thomas C Gray commenting on an article, he’s the first post. I mean wow. That takes dedication to scour the intarweb and post scathing comments within moments of each article going public! Shoot down the competition wherever they pop up. I’m thinking he’s working for Chevy. Extolling the virtues of the Volt is the only positive comment I’ve seen so far from this guy.

  • Tobias

    Give it better looks and people might actually give it a second look, keep EV’s looking like this (sh*t) and you read about it once and then it’s gone into oblivion.

    This is my main problem with these kind of cars, $100k and you get an EV-car that looks like an sportscar, useless when you think about it but still better looking then this TRIAC. From an $20k oogly to a $100k replica of an Elise, is there no way to make a car in between that actually looks good and is useful?

  • Tobias

    Give it better looks and people might actually give it a second look, keep EV’s looking like this (sh*t) and you read about it once and then it’s gone into oblivion.

    This is my main problem with these kind of cars, $100k and you get an EV-car that looks like an sportscar, useless when you think about it but still better looking then this TRIAC. From an $20k oogly to a $100k replica of an Elise, is there no way to make a car in between that actually looks good and is useful?

  • Tobias

    Give it better looks and people might actually give it a second look, keep EV’s looking like this (sh*t) and you read about it once and then it’s gone into oblivion.

    This is my main problem with these kind of cars, $100k and you get an EV-car that looks like an sportscar, useless when you think about it but still better looking then this TRIAC. From an $20k oogly to a $100k replica of an Elise, is there no way to make a car in between that actually looks good and is useful?

  • Tobias

    Give it better looks and people might actually give it a second look, keep EV’s looking like this (sh*t) and you read about it once and then it’s gone into oblivion.

    This is my main problem with these kind of cars, $100k and you get an EV-car that looks like an sportscar, useless when you think about it but still better looking then this TRIAC. From an $20k oogly to a $100k replica of an Elise, is there no way to make a car in between that actually looks good and is useful?

  • taelor

    thomas c gray?

    http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=57162

    sorry, but i dont take much advice from sex offenders…

  • taelor

    thomas c gray?

    http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=57162

    sorry, but i dont take much advice from sex offenders…

  • taelor

    thomas c gray?

    http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=57162

    sorry, but i dont take much advice from sex offenders…

  • taelor

    thomas c gray?

    http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=57162

    sorry, but i dont take much advice from sex offenders…

  • http://ottodestruct.com Otto

    100 mile range is what kills all-electric cars. Sorry, but the fact that you can never go more than 50 miles away from home simply makes it useless for any sort of larger city driving.

  • http://ottodestruct.com Otto

    100 mile range is what kills all-electric cars. Sorry, but the fact that you can never go more than 50 miles away from home simply makes it useless for any sort of larger city driving.

  • http://ottodestruct.com Otto

    100 mile range is what kills all-electric cars. Sorry, but the fact that you can never go more than 50 miles away from home simply makes it useless for any sort of larger city driving.

  • http://ottodestruct.com Otto

    100 mile range is what kills all-electric cars. Sorry, but the fact that you can never go more than 50 miles away from home simply makes it useless for any sort of larger city driving.

  • http://ottodestruct.com Otto

    100 mile range is what kills all-electric cars. Sorry, but the fact that you can never go more than 50 miles away from home simply makes it useless for any sort of larger city driving.

  • http://www.omgpotato.com Joshua M

    As much as Thomas was lacking in ability to form a logical sentence…the foundation of his argument is true.

    These are dangerous, moreso than even motorcycles.

    I used to have an inverted trike (3 wheeler with the two wheels up front). It wasn’t uncommon to end up on two wheels (1 front and the rear) when turning to sharply. It’s not a good design. At least motorcycles can lean safely in a sharp turn.

    That said, as long as the consumer is aware of the shortcomings, then there is no need to stop them from selling it.

    Also, to everyone insulting thomas, most of your rants are as bad as his, filled with terrible generalizations and lack of content. Ignore trolls, don’t become them.

  • http://www.omgpotato.com Joshua M

    As much as Thomas was lacking in ability to form a logical sentence…the foundation of his argument is true.

    These are dangerous, moreso than even motorcycles.

    I used to have an inverted trike (3 wheeler with the two wheels up front). It wasn’t uncommon to end up on two wheels (1 front and the rear) when turning to sharply. It’s not a good design. At least motorcycles can lean safely in a sharp turn.

    That said, as long as the consumer is aware of the shortcomings, then there is no need to stop them from selling it.

    Also, to everyone insulting thomas, most of your rants are as bad as his, filled with terrible generalizations and lack of content. Ignore trolls, don’t become them.

  • http://www.omgpotato.com Joshua M

    As much as Thomas was lacking in ability to form a logical sentence…the foundation of his argument is true.

    These are dangerous, moreso than even motorcycles.

    I used to have an inverted trike (3 wheeler with the two wheels up front). It wasn’t uncommon to end up on two wheels (1 front and the rear) when turning to sharply. It’s not a good design. At least motorcycles can lean safely in a sharp turn.

    That said, as long as the consumer is aware of the shortcomings, then there is no need to stop them from selling it.

    Also, to everyone insulting thomas, most of your rants are as bad as his, filled with terrible generalizations and lack of content. Ignore trolls, don’t become them.

  • http://www.omgpotato.com Joshua M

    As much as Thomas was lacking in ability to form a logical sentence…the foundation of his argument is true.

    These are dangerous, moreso than even motorcycles.

    I used to have an inverted trike (3 wheeler with the two wheels up front). It wasn’t uncommon to end up on two wheels (1 front and the rear) when turning to sharply. It’s not a good design. At least motorcycles can lean safely in a sharp turn.

    That said, as long as the consumer is aware of the shortcomings, then there is no need to stop them from selling it.

    Also, to everyone insulting thomas, most of your rants are as bad as his, filled with terrible generalizations and lack of content. Ignore trolls, don’t become them.

  • http://www.omgpotato.com Joshua M

    As much as Thomas was lacking in ability to form a logical sentence…the foundation of his argument is true.

    These are dangerous, moreso than even motorcycles.

    I used to have an inverted trike (3 wheeler with the two wheels up front). It wasn’t uncommon to end up on two wheels (1 front and the rear) when turning to sharply. It’s not a good design. At least motorcycles can lean safely in a sharp turn.

    That said, as long as the consumer is aware of the shortcomings, then there is no need to stop them from selling it.

    Also, to everyone insulting thomas, most of your rants are as bad as his, filled with terrible generalizations and lack of content. Ignore trolls, don’t become them.

  • anon

    Who is Thomas C Gray shilling for?

    a) Exxon

    b) some third country like Saudi Arabia

    c) some global hedge fund bent on sinking America faster

    Anyhow, I’d still hesitate to take it on the highway… the extra room over 30MPH seems mostly useful on non-Federal routes (like Route 1, etc).

    What’s notable is that there are NO OTHER relatively low-cost electrics. There are some souped up golf carts which are governed to 30MPH – this is a refreshing change.

    I see in Mass they shut down the electric recharge parking spaces at the MBTA. Bringing back the EV tax credits would be nice (it’s kind of fishy that the HUMMER tax credit’s not phased out, but the EV credit is??).

  • anon

    Who is Thomas C Gray shilling for?

    a) Exxon

    b) some third country like Saudi Arabia

    c) some global hedge fund bent on sinking America faster

    Anyhow, I’d still hesitate to take it on the highway… the extra room over 30MPH seems mostly useful on non-Federal routes (like Route 1, etc).

    What’s notable is that there are NO OTHER relatively low-cost electrics. There are some souped up golf carts which are governed to 30MPH – this is a refreshing change.

    I see in Mass they shut down the electric recharge parking spaces at the MBTA. Bringing back the EV tax credits would be nice (it’s kind of fishy that the HUMMER tax credit’s not phased out, but the EV credit is??).

  • michael

    thomas C Gray:

    You sure use the word “Shilling” a lot.

    And your statement “it does NOT adhere to ANY safety regulations” Is VERY not true. These sized cars have been driven in parts of Aisa for years, this has revealed that, if designed right, cars this size can be safer than motorcycles.

    Go ahead and drive your POS SUV. Die knowing that you did your part to fu*k the environment.

  • michael

    thomas C Gray:

    You sure use the word “Shilling” a lot.

    And your statement “it does NOT adhere to ANY safety regulations” Is VERY not true. These sized cars have been driven in parts of Aisa for years, this has revealed that, if designed right, cars this size can be safer than motorcycles.

    Go ahead and drive your POS SUV. Die knowing that you did your part to fu*k the environment.

  • michael

    thomas C Gray:

    You sure use the word “Shilling” a lot.

    And your statement “it does NOT adhere to ANY safety regulations” Is VERY not true. These sized cars have been driven in parts of Aisa for years, this has revealed that, if designed right, cars this size can be safer than motorcycles.

    Go ahead and drive your POS SUV. Die knowing that you did your part to fu*k the environment.

  • michael

    thomas C Gray:

    You sure use the word “Shilling” a lot.

    And your statement “it does NOT adhere to ANY safety regulations” Is VERY not true. These sized cars have been driven in parts of Aisa for years, this has revealed that, if designed right, cars this size can be safer than motorcycles.

    Go ahead and drive your POS SUV. Die knowing that you did your part to fu*k the environment.

  • michael

    thomas C Gray:

    You sure use the word “Shilling” a lot.

    And your statement “it does NOT adhere to ANY safety regulations” Is VERY not true. These sized cars have been driven in parts of Aisa for years, this has revealed that, if designed right, cars this size can be safer than motorcycles.

    Go ahead and drive your POS SUV. Die knowing that you did your part to fu*k the environment.

  • michael

    thomas C Gray:

    You sure use the word “Shilling” a lot.

    And your statement “it does NOT adhere to ANY safety regulations” Is VERY not true. These sized cars have been driven in parts of Aisa for years, this has revealed that, if designed right, cars this size can be safer than motorcycles.

    Go ahead and drive your POS SUV. Die knowing that you did your part to fu*k the environment.

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  • Jeremiah

    Why are you profiling the Triac, a $20K motorcycle, rather than the Microwatt, a $12k car?

  • Jeremiah

    Why are you profiling the Triac, a $20K motorcycle, rather than the Microwatt, a $12k car?

  • Jeremiah

    Why are you profiling the Triac, a $20K motorcycle, rather than the Microwatt, a $12k car?

  • Ken Howell

    Looks like our paradigm of “motorcycle” needs to change a litle. Next year we will have many choices as to what vehicle we are going to use for the next 10 years, and as soon as a barrel of oil hits $200 we will all have our paradigm shifted and be driving electrics. Don’t worry, Honda, Toyota, and all the rest will supply us with the cars we need, however many wheels you want.

  • Ken Howell

    Looks like our paradigm of “motorcycle” needs to change a litle. Next year we will have many choices as to what vehicle we are going to use for the next 10 years, and as soon as a barrel of oil hits $200 we will all have our paradigm shifted and be driving electrics. Don’t worry, Honda, Toyota, and all the rest will supply us with the cars we need, however many wheels you want.

  • Ken Howell

    Looks like our paradigm of “motorcycle” needs to change a litle. Next year we will have many choices as to what vehicle we are going to use for the next 10 years, and as soon as a barrel of oil hits $200 we will all have our paradigm shifted and be driving electrics. Don’t worry, Honda, Toyota, and all the rest will supply us with the cars we need, however many wheels you want.

  • Ken Howell

    Looks like our paradigm of “motorcycle” needs to change a litle. Next year we will have many choices as to what vehicle we are going to use for the next 10 years, and as soon as a barrel of oil hits $200 we will all have our paradigm shifted and be driving electrics. Don’t worry, Honda, Toyota, and all the rest will supply us with the cars we need, however many wheels you want.

  • Ken Howell

    Looks like our paradigm of “motorcycle” needs to change a litle. Next year we will have many choices as to what vehicle we are going to use for the next 10 years, and as soon as a barrel of oil hits $200 we will all have our paradigm shifted and be driving electrics. Don’t worry, Honda, Toyota, and all the rest will supply us with the cars we need, however many wheels you want.

  • KEN PASCO

    I pray for the day that I can go to a dealer and buy a fuel cell car. I love the concept of a car with H20 as an emission and can go 300 to 400 miles per charge. I may die waiting for these cars to be mass produced :-(

  • KEN PASCO

    I pray for the day that I can go to a dealer and buy a fuel cell car. I love the concept of a car with H20 as an emission and can go 300 to 400 miles per charge. I may die waiting for these cars to be mass produced :-(

  • KEN PASCO

    I pray for the day that I can go to a dealer and buy a fuel cell car. I love the concept of a car with H20 as an emission and can go 300 to 400 miles per charge. I may die waiting for these cars to be mass produced :-(

  • Dan D.

    Thomas is a rather fearful little man, and I truly wonder how he gets out of bed in the morning. Does he also weep for all the bikers that take spills on their Harleys?

  • Dan D.

    Thomas is a rather fearful little man, and I truly wonder how he gets out of bed in the morning. Does he also weep for all the bikers that take spills on their Harleys?

  • Dan D.

    Thomas is a rather fearful little man, and I truly wonder how he gets out of bed in the morning. Does he also weep for all the bikers that take spills on their Harleys?

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  • B

    Microwatt is not allowed on streets with a speed limit higher than 35MPH. It get’s 60 miles to a charge

    Triac is legal on freeways and get’s 100-125 miles to a charge.

  • B

    Microwatt is not allowed on streets with a speed limit higher than 35MPH. It get’s 60 miles to a charge

    Triac is legal on freeways and get’s 100-125 miles to a charge.

  • http://www.painful-back.com neednewbed.com

    fact is, 3-wheelers suck, unstable, would it cost so much more for another wheel?

    for an electric the range and speed is quite reasonable along with the price, that is a refreshing

    as far as safety, if everyone drove much lighter, slower vehicles and not 4 ton suv’s im sure these will be safe enough, and besides we all grew up with cars that by todays standards were not safe, but all the features give people a false sense of safety anyhow

  • http://www.painful-back.com neednewbed.com

    fact is, 3-wheelers suck, unstable, would it cost so much more for another wheel?

    for an electric the range and speed is quite reasonable along with the price, that is a refreshing

    as far as safety, if everyone drove much lighter, slower vehicles and not 4 ton suv’s im sure these will be safe enough, and besides we all grew up with cars that by todays standards were not safe, but all the features give people a false sense of safety anyhow

  • mike k

    my friend works at a green car company next to UCdavis and i drove a couple of these. Really when you drive it it’s the worst experience ever. Because their electric, its instant torque which means every time you touch the gas pedal the car jerks, and the suspension on all electric cars under 30k are just horrible. It really takes a green person to drive one of these. Just go with a prius, or in my case, a corolla.

  • mike k

    my friend works at a green car company next to UCdavis and i drove a couple of these. Really when you drive it it’s the worst experience ever. Because their electric, its instant torque which means every time you touch the gas pedal the car jerks, and the suspension on all electric cars under 30k are just horrible. It really takes a green person to drive one of these. Just go with a prius, or in my case, a corolla.

  • MichaelG

    Most people in this country don’t drive more than 50 miles round trip in a day? I’d like to know where you live and work, it might be worth moving. In metro Atlanta however 50 miles in a day is nothing. No thanks I’ll keep my gas slurping Ford V8 with my 18 mpg and $110 fill ups. Have to go run over some eco friendly cars now…

  • MichaelG

    Most people in this country don’t drive more than 50 miles round trip in a day? I’d like to know where you live and work, it might be worth moving. In metro Atlanta however 50 miles in a day is nothing. No thanks I’ll keep my gas slurping Ford V8 with my 18 mpg and $110 fill ups. Have to go run over some eco friendly cars now…

  • Alan

    Having a fourth wheel and two small back seats would have priced it out of reach. Currently affordable EVs are commuter vehicles. Period. They’re a second car and should be evaluated as such. You don’t *need* range unless you live farther away from work than you ought to, and you don’t need to pack the family. It would be nice, but for the 90% functionality, it’s not needed. Keep track of your driving for a week: 1. how far do you drive between stops at home and work (if you could charge up there)? and 2. how many people are riding with you? That’s what you need in a commuter car, and for the vast majority of people (there will always be exceptions), this sort of vehicle is perfect.

    My main concern is if it’s real, as there has been a lot of vapor in this market…

  • Alan

    Having a fourth wheel and two small back seats would have priced it out of reach. Currently affordable EVs are commuter vehicles. Period. They’re a second car and should be evaluated as such. You don’t *need* range unless you live farther away from work than you ought to, and you don’t need to pack the family. It would be nice, but for the 90% functionality, it’s not needed. Keep track of your driving for a week: 1. how far do you drive between stops at home and work (if you could charge up there)? and 2. how many people are riding with you? That’s what you need in a commuter car, and for the vast majority of people (there will always be exceptions), this sort of vehicle is perfect.

    My main concern is if it’s real, as there has been a lot of vapor in this market…

  • Alan

    As for the issue of 3-wheeler stability, the proof is in the driving, and *how* you drive it, I suspect. I had a Sparrow, also a 3-wheeler, and did not find it unstable in the least. My understanding is that 2 in front is the more stable arrangement. The short wheelbase made the steering twitchy at freeway speeds, and it’s almost certainly more rollable, but the way to deal with that is to drive defensively (as everyone should anyhow), not for everyone to drive a hummer “just in case”.

    Just like with the nonsense about U-haul refusing to rent to Explorers: I pulled a 3000 lb boat with my Explorer and it handled it just fine. You have to drive accordingly: you *do* have a 3000lb tail wagging your dog, but is hardly unsafe. U-haul just got hit with a rash of people trying to win the lottery after they proved they didn’t know how to drive with a trailer IMHO. But that’s another matter…

    It’s possible that this thing is unstable, but it would be bad design, not the fact of 3 wheels.

  • Alan

    As for the issue of 3-wheeler stability, the proof is in the driving, and *how* you drive it, I suspect. I had a Sparrow, also a 3-wheeler, and did not find it unstable in the least. My understanding is that 2 in front is the more stable arrangement. The short wheelbase made the steering twitchy at freeway speeds, and it’s almost certainly more rollable, but the way to deal with that is to drive defensively (as everyone should anyhow), not for everyone to drive a hummer “just in case”.

    Just like with the nonsense about U-haul refusing to rent to Explorers: I pulled a 3000 lb boat with my Explorer and it handled it just fine. You have to drive accordingly: you *do* have a 3000lb tail wagging your dog, but is hardly unsafe. U-haul just got hit with a rash of people trying to win the lottery after they proved they didn’t know how to drive with a trailer IMHO. But that’s another matter…

    It’s possible that this thing is unstable, but it would be bad design, not the fact of 3 wheels.

  • http://none richard

    so

    how much ?

    what exactly is the price?

    where exactly do i go to take the money to get one and drive away?

    where exactly is this cutie built, constructed ?

    how many are on the road?

    can i talk to or see an owner, happy or furious?

    pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

    more dodgy stuff about fantasy vehicles,

    how does this save any planet?

    integrity, it’s just an old worn out concept

  • Borden Borhosephat

    I applaud the company for the ingenuity and engineering of this car. The problem though it that it has 3 freakin’ wheels on it! Why do the electric and alternate energy vehicles always require us (if we want them) to drive a dorked out rinky dink vehicle? I don’t want a big SUV, but make the cars look like regular cars. What would be even better than that would be to sell me a small car that looks good and is good, not some bubble looking suppository impersonator.

  • Borden Borhosephat

    I applaud the company for the ingenuity and engineering of this car. The problem though it that it has 3 freakin’ wheels on it! Why do the electric and alternate energy vehicles always require us (if we want them) to drive a dorked out rinky dink vehicle? I don’t want a big SUV, but make the cars look like regular cars. What would be even better than that would be to sell me a small car that looks good and is good, not some bubble looking suppository impersonator.

  • LckyS

    For $6K you can buy the Maini Reva all electric vehicle. This car is quite popular in Bangalore, India and some time last year, Draper Fisher Jurvetson investment quite a good amount of money in this company.

    URL: http://www.revaindia.com/

    News about the DFJ funding: http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1067776

  • LckyS

    For $6K you can buy the Maini Reva all electric vehicle. This car is quite popular in Bangalore, India and some time last year, Draper Fisher Jurvetson investment quite a good amount of money in this company.

    URL: http://www.revaindia.com/

    News about the DFJ funding: http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1067776

  • Wm

    Only $20,000. What a bargain. $3500 less than the large two bedroom house on 1/3 acre with 23 trees in the yard we bought in 1958 in Dallas. And everyone brags about how much they make in contrast to the old days.

  • Wm

    Only $20,000. What a bargain. $3500 less than the large two bedroom house on 1/3 acre with 23 trees in the yard we bought in 1958 in Dallas. And everyone brags about how much they make in contrast to the old days.

  • Paul Anthony

    This gas crisis is so out of hand, that I’ve resorted to drastic measures. Recently I converted my 04 Cadillac to utilize water as fuel from an easy to install kit, I obtained online from a company called Water4fuel.info

  • Paul Anthony

    This gas crisis is so out of hand, that I’ve resorted to drastic measures. Recently I converted my 04 Cadillac to utilize water as fuel from an easy to install kit, I obtained online from a company called Water4fuel.info

  • Iwan N Agag

    Why does it seem impossible to build an electric car that doesn’t look stupid. For example, the Honda Insight, this Triac thing. Yeah, Tesla makes a nice looking car but it cost $100K. Why doesn’t somebody make a small good looking electric car that people will want to drive. Something that looks like a small Honda Civic (sedan), Chevy Cavalier (coupe), or a Mazda Miata (sports).

  • Iwan N Agag

    Why does it seem impossible to build an electric car that doesn’t look stupid. For example, the Honda Insight, this Triac thing. Yeah, Tesla makes a nice looking car but it cost $100K. Why doesn’t somebody make a small good looking electric car that people will want to drive. Something that looks like a small Honda Civic (sedan), Chevy Cavalier (coupe), or a Mazda Miata (sports).

  • rich

    igrew up in england and we had the 3 wheel car it got great gas milage and had no more accidents than anything else.we also had an elecdtric car that worked fine w/ 4 wheels did america just reject all the history of cars ? the prius is a joke .spend ?1000s$$ to save what a little more than a grand e year. crunch some numbers nobody paying a fortune for electric to save money ever will. and those batteries are huge non eco caring garbage in a few years.-modern tech is failing us at a an astounding rate.

  • rich

    igrew up in england and we had the 3 wheel car it got great gas milage and had no more accidents than anything else.we also had an elecdtric car that worked fine w/ 4 wheels did america just reject all the history of cars ? the prius is a joke .spend ?1000s$$ to save what a little more than a grand e year. crunch some numbers nobody paying a fortune for electric to save money ever will. and those batteries are huge non eco caring garbage in a few years.-modern tech is failing us at a an astounding rate.

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  • Jeff

    I love electric vehicles. Torque is amazing, no tailpipe emissions, But 20k for that. OMG, yuck, eww, pht pht, bleeck…no way dude!

  • Jeff

    I love electric vehicles. Torque is amazing, no tailpipe emissions, But 20k for that. OMG, yuck, eww, pht pht, bleeck…no way dude!

  • Jeff

    You can register and drive these butt ugly 3wheelers in California without a motorcycle license. But for love of all thats good and decent, WHY WHY, WHYYYYYY?

    Otto the vast majority of commutes are far less than 50 miles and a lot more utility than useless. However, , WHY WHY, WHYYYYYY? (screaming psychotically, exit stage left)

  • Jeff

    You can register and drive these butt ugly 3wheelers in California without a motorcycle license. But for love of all thats good and decent, WHY WHY, WHYYYYYY?

    Otto the vast majority of commutes are far less than 50 miles and a lot more utility than useless. However, , WHY WHY, WHYYYYYY? (screaming psychotically, exit stage left)

  • Andy B

    I will buy a plug-in electric car when it is the same size and cost of a Prius or Civic…and has 4 wheels. Until then, I’ll ride my bike and keep repairing my current car. Like a lot of folks, I have two cars, one for my wife/kids and one for me. We try to drive them as little as possible.

    I believe we are not unique, in that if we have one car that can go long distances, I can buy a plug-in electric vehicle and never feel inconvenienced. I would like both of them to use no gas or as little gas as possible, and I don’t mind plugging them in.

    Thanks for writing this article and helping people see an alternative.

  • Andy B

    I will buy a plug-in electric car when it is the same size and cost of a Prius or Civic…and has 4 wheels. Until then, I’ll ride my bike and keep repairing my current car. Like a lot of folks, I have two cars, one for my wife/kids and one for me. We try to drive them as little as possible.

    I believe we are not unique, in that if we have one car that can go long distances, I can buy a plug-in electric vehicle and never feel inconvenienced. I would like both of them to use no gas or as little gas as possible, and I don’t mind plugging them in.

    Thanks for writing this article and helping people see an alternative.

  • imenigma

    I have a question, i note on tv news and other media,no one says how many AMPS of electricity it takes to recharge the green cars batteries ? at if in Cal. they have so many “brownouts” in summer what will be the drain on energy use of these vehicles ? how is that saving energy when it has to be plugged into a power sourse ? these batteries when they wear out will have to buried in a tocic waste dump and that costs a lot of money,waste disposal has to also added into the cost of these cars of which i hear no one talking about. In the long run these cars could cost a lot in the future when they start to fill up special landfills.

    Remember they tell people to cut back on heating and air conditioning all of which use energy.

    Its time we started using Nuclear power, its being used all over the world and we do have millions of tons of some of the cleanest coal in the world in Utah that Pres. Clinton closed off ( 100 years worth)plus we have Billions of gallons of oil under our soil,but green wackos have banned new refineries and drilling for oil.

    But since all you greens out there are against this,we can go back to the old slogan of the 1970s, freeze and starve to death in the dark..

    That ought to raise get the chicken littles of Gores crowd stirred up. In the 1950s they told us we were headed for a new ice age,then again in the 1970s,now we are going to all melt..hahaha look where Al have his $$$ invested suckers…he’s going to make even more $$$$$$$$$$$ off your rear ends

  • imenigma

    I have a question, i note on tv news and other media,no one says how many AMPS of electricity it takes to recharge the green cars batteries ? at if in Cal. they have so many “brownouts” in summer what will be the drain on energy use of these vehicles ? how is that saving energy when it has to be plugged into a power sourse ? these batteries when they wear out will have to buried in a tocic waste dump and that costs a lot of money,waste disposal has to also added into the cost of these cars of which i hear no one talking about. In the long run these cars could cost a lot in the future when they start to fill up special landfills.

    Remember they tell people to cut back on heating and air conditioning all of which use energy.

    Its time we started using Nuclear power, its being used all over the world and we do have millions of tons of some of the cleanest coal in the world in Utah that Pres. Clinton closed off ( 100 years worth)plus we have Billions of gallons of oil under our soil,but green wackos have banned new refineries and drilling for oil.

    But since all you greens out there are against this,we can go back to the old slogan of the 1970s, freeze and starve to death in the dark..

    That ought to raise get the chicken littles of Gores crowd stirred up. In the 1950s they told us we were headed for a new ice age,then again in the 1970s,now we are going to all melt..hahaha look where Al have his $$$ invested suckers…he’s going to make even more $$$$$$$$$$$ off your rear ends

  • http://www.auto-motor-car.com Car Brother

    So smart this car.

  • http://www.auto-motor-car.com Car Brother

    So smart this car.

  • Brian

    We have to start some place. This is the start of somthing great. We need to put a end to the BIG OIL COMPANIES and make them go away along with their record profits. F them they rape us all every day and this is what we all need to do to change that. Keep up the great work.

  • Brian

    We have to start some place. This is the start of somthing great. We need to put a end to the BIG OIL COMPANIES and make them go away along with their record profits. F them they rape us all every day and this is what we all need to do to change that. Keep up the great work.

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  • http://www.freshautos.com Jason

    I buy that soap if it came in a box looking the 3 wheel enclosed bike talked about here. That is a cool vehicle, and exactly what I am looking for in my next vehicle

  • http://www.freshautos.com Jason

    I buy that soap if it came in a box looking the 3 wheel enclosed bike talked about here. That is a cool vehicle, and exactly what I am looking for in my next vehicle

  • http://ooyes.net website design

    Why no airbags? It would be pretty stupid to drive on the freeway without them.

  • http://ooyes.net website design

    Why no airbags? It would be pretty stupid to drive on the freeway without them.

  • Toxteth O’Grady

    I was excited until I saw the lame rear end. Oh, and the pointless third headlight in the middle there.

    3 wheels =

    • No crash testing (meaning it would never pass any crash worthiness measure)

    • No air conditioning (in an enclosed vehicle sold in North America!?)

    • No airbags (in a car that size what would be the point)

    • No guarantee of stability (not a good wide stance like an Aptera)

    So.. it’s a motorcycle without the fun.

    Oh but it is an EV so we’ll forgive its shortcomings. All of them.

    The comment from Brian a few days ago is interesting: “We have to start some place.”

    We did Brian. GM did it a decade ago. Toyota did. Honda did.

    Why do we have to put up with these lame 3 wheel plastic go carts???

  • Toxteth O’Grady

    I was excited until I saw the lame rear end. Oh, and the pointless third headlight in the middle there.

    3 wheels =

    • No crash testing (meaning it would never pass any crash worthiness measure)

    • No air conditioning (in an enclosed vehicle sold in North America!?)

    • No airbags (in a car that size what would be the point)

    • No guarantee of stability (not a good wide stance like an Aptera)

    So.. it’s a motorcycle without the fun.

    Oh but it is an EV so we’ll forgive its shortcomings. All of them.

    The comment from Brian a few days ago is interesting: “We have to start some place.”

    We did Brian. GM did it a decade ago. Toyota did. Honda did.

    Why do we have to put up with these lame 3 wheel plastic go carts???

  • http://mygreenblog.info Mygreenblog

    This a stupid looking car its doesnt look safe in the least. It looks like a bike maybe they should have put a forth wheel and make it into a car. The 2 cents a mile sounds good but thats it.

  • http://mygreenblog.info Mygreenblog

    This a stupid looking car its doesnt look safe in the least. It looks like a bike maybe they should have put a forth wheel and make it into a car. The 2 cents a mile sounds good but thats it.

  • Lancelot

    If this is the best engineering we can expect then I wouldn’t expect anyone to rush to alternative transportation, especially when you consider a $20,000 sticker – For the life of me I cannot understand why every offering I’ve seen carries at least a 50% higher retail than an equivalent gas offering – I know this technology isn’t cheap but these people are shooting themselves in the foot with the styling & price points

    they’re offering.

  • Lancelot

    If this is the best engineering we can expect then I wouldn’t expect anyone to rush to alternative transportation, especially when you consider a $20,000 sticker – For the life of me I cannot understand why every offering I’ve seen carries at least a 50% higher retail than an equivalent gas offering – I know this technology isn’t cheap but these people are shooting themselves in the foot with the styling & price points

    they’re offering.

  • diana drake

    I need a van to haul stuff, and I want to go hydrogen cell or electric. ASAP

  • diana drake

    I need a van to haul stuff, and I want to go hydrogen cell or electric. ASAP

  • Uncle B

    Road-rash proof wonder! I want mine in electric metallic orange with three point safety harness and a jet fighter cockpit motif. I can hardly wait to go blasting past gridlock to a half price shared parking space with my buddies. Bravo! more fun commuting than a bag full of Prozac. Commuting could be ballsey with this thing, and maybe an insightful city government would give us lanes of our own to reduce downtown congestion and air pollution. London England has a surcharge on big vehicles downtown, why not a break for the smaller faster non-polluting smart stuff?

  • Uncle B

    Road-rash proof wonder! I want mine in electric metallic orange with three point safety harness and a jet fighter cockpit motif. I can hardly wait to go blasting past gridlock to a half price shared parking space with my buddies. Bravo! more fun commuting than a bag full of Prozac. Commuting could be ballsey with this thing, and maybe an insightful city government would give us lanes of our own to reduce downtown congestion and air pollution. London England has a surcharge on big vehicles downtown, why not a break for the smaller faster non-polluting smart stuff?

  • Greg

    No, they can’t replace a gas powered vehicle, but if you just want it to commute to/from work and do short distance errands, it would do the job. I live in the NW and like the fact that it has a canopy, I don’t care if it’s just a “motorcycle with and extra wheel”. Would I get one? Probably not, because I can only afford one vehicle and need one that will haul cargo, so I have a Ford Ranger PU. They have hybrid technology that powers 60ft city buses, why can’t I get a hybrid pu?

  • Greg

    No, they can’t replace a gas powered vehicle, but if you just want it to commute to/from work and do short distance errands, it would do the job. I live in the NW and like the fact that it has a canopy, I don’t care if it’s just a “motorcycle with and extra wheel”. Would I get one? Probably not, because I can only afford one vehicle and need one that will haul cargo, so I have a Ford Ranger PU. They have hybrid technology that powers 60ft city buses, why can’t I get a hybrid pu?

  • http://freehelp911.com M.Gonzo Gonzalez

    This is the best alternative so far I will love to be the spokesperson for this toy.

  • http://freehelp911.com M.Gonzo Gonzalez

    This is the best alternative so far I will love to be the spokesperson for this toy.

  • Tom

    I like the idea but in Indiana if your driving something clasified as a cycle you must wear a helmet, if your under 18 or a first time rider any age for 3 months and you can’t drive after dark. I wish it would do at least 100 mile on a charge. 50 gives you nothing left on your charge after a 35 mile round trip without risk of going dead. Battery life is decreased if run real low every time causing heat and sulfides problems.

  • Tom

    I like the idea but in Indiana if your driving something clasified as a cycle you must wear a helmet, if your under 18 or a first time rider any age for 3 months and you can’t drive after dark. I wish it would do at least 100 mile on a charge. 50 gives you nothing left on your charge after a 35 mile round trip without risk of going dead. Battery life is decreased if run real low every time causing heat and sulfides problems.

  • Russell Sweet

    i see a lot of knockdowns here about a rinkydink little car you have to squeeze into but personally i would love to have a 50 mile range buggy for back and forth to work with the cost of fuel nowadays you can laugh all you want . and with the stringent inspection laws i have been getting beaten down with on building my own a 3 wheeler sounds fine to me …. laugh your way past all them bullies with there monster gas sucking buggies when theres no fuel left for them

  • Russell Sweet

    i see a lot of knockdowns here about a rinkydink little car you have to squeeze into but personally i would love to have a 50 mile range buggy for back and forth to work with the cost of fuel nowadays you can laugh all you want . and with the stringent inspection laws i have been getting beaten down with on building my own a 3 wheeler sounds fine to me …. laugh your way past all them bullies with there monster gas sucking buggies when theres no fuel left for them

  • AL

    I’ve recently had the privilege to work on and drive some Ford Model T’s. These cars are rickety crap compared to modern vehicles, and in some cases were inferior to horse drawn vehicles (or ridden horses) …but, soon became, in their time, for a long time, e the cat’s meow. We are now dealing with the Model T’s of electric cars. How exciting to be part of an era that is just beginning. In fifty years folks will be amazed that we were driving filthy, wasteful gasoline powered vehicles. And many of you will be able to remember the transition. I won’t live to see it, but just to be in at the start of a serious commitment to a new way of life is just awesome.

  • AL

    I’ve recently had the privilege to work on and drive some Ford Model T’s. These cars are rickety crap compared to modern vehicles, and in some cases were inferior to horse drawn vehicles (or ridden horses) …but, soon became, in their time, for a long time, e the cat’s meow. We are now dealing with the Model T’s of electric cars. How exciting to be part of an era that is just beginning. In fifty years folks will be amazed that we were driving filthy, wasteful gasoline powered vehicles. And many of you will be able to remember the transition. I won’t live to see it, but just to be in at the start of a serious commitment to a new way of life is just awesome.

  • http://TRIACAVElectricCar Walter Koerner

    Where can I buy one???

  • Alex M w

    Would you guys buy a car from a sleazy lawyer who F’s People over every day for a living. thats like buying fresh produce from the garbage man!!

    Ever wonder why you cant find any Dealerships for this contraption?

    I’ll tell you, Because its not even being made on an large scale or even an official scale at all…

  • Alex M w

    Would you guys buy a car from a sleazy lawyer who F’s People over every day for a living. thats like buying fresh produce from the garbage man!!

    Ever wonder why you cant find any Dealerships for this contraption?

    I’ll tell you, Because its not even being made on an large scale or even an official scale at all…

  • Aubrey Stanton

    My opinon of hybrids is that they are just a way to keep sing gasoline longer. The tech to recharge Lithium-ion batteries in motion is already in use on high end golf carts and some conversion cars to total electric from gas. So it doesn’t make sense to continue sing gas/ele hybrids. the total electric can recharge in moting and regen braking recharges during de celerate and stopping to give an extended milage range equal to or better than gas only vehicles. This tech is not all that new and has been around for years. Guess why it has not been widely used before. Petroluem cartels” ! A total electric Ford Ranger Pickup can be bought for approx $22,000 new with 20 yr warrenty on the lith-ion batt and reg manufactor warrenty on the rest of the new Ranger truck Just one example of what is already available. ck snoops for verifaction.

  • Aubrey Stanton

    My opinon of hybrids is that they are just a way to keep sing gasoline longer. The tech to recharge Lithium-ion batteries in motion is already in use on high end golf carts and some conversion cars to total electric from gas. So it doesn’t make sense to continue sing gas/ele hybrids. the total electric can recharge in moting and regen braking recharges during de celerate and stopping to give an extended milage range equal to or better than gas only vehicles. This tech is not all that new and has been around for years. Guess why it has not been widely used before. Petroluem cartels” ! A total electric Ford Ranger Pickup can be bought for approx $22,000 new with 20 yr warrenty on the lith-ion batt and reg manufactor warrenty on the rest of the new Ranger truck Just one example of what is already available. ck snoops for verifaction.

  • http://www.magtransauto.com/ Aubrey Stanton

    Ford Mtr Co built a small number of these all electric trucks and then recalled them. Now they are a few still out there and in great demand. some new ranger trucks are being converted to all electric with 100 hp motors and mag drive transmission, with vibra shock re charging capabilities, Hope the petro cartels don’t buy them off or kill the builders. also another old tech,is making headway, that is magnetic drive motors that run without a battery to recharge. Try snoops re Budipest factories using them to run big factory machines. So get congress and the petro cartels out of the way and let the free market correct the problem that big oil dependancey has enslaved us to.(Including foreign oil)In the short term lift the drill ban and let our own reserves help reduce the price for gas now.

    respectfully, Aubrey Stanton, Texas

  • http://www.magtransauto.com/ Aubrey Stanton

    Ford Mtr Co built a small number of these all electric trucks and then recalled them. Now they are a few still out there and in great demand. some new ranger trucks are being converted to all electric with 100 hp motors and mag drive transmission, with vibra shock re charging capabilities, Hope the petro cartels don’t buy them off or kill the builders. also another old tech,is making headway, that is magnetic drive motors that run without a battery to recharge. Try snoops re Budipest factories using them to run big factory machines. So get congress and the petro cartels out of the way and let the free market correct the problem that big oil dependancey has enslaved us to.(Including foreign oil)In the short term lift the drill ban and let our own reserves help reduce the price for gas now.

    respectfully, Aubrey Stanton, Texas

  • Stevie B

    I’m sure that auto companies can make an e-car that is more aesthetic, although I personally like the look of these cars. It’s too bad that uncle Sam doesn’t cut a break for buyers of these cars anymore. Perhaps if the government used just 25% of the money we pump into the middle east for buyers, we would see electric cars explode in popularity! If the US government gave financial incentives to auto makers, maybe they could come up with VERY affordable e-cars. I’m sure that there would be alot less loss of life!

  • Stevie B

    I’m sure that auto companies can make an e-car that is more aesthetic, although I personally like the look of these cars. It’s too bad that uncle Sam doesn’t cut a break for buyers of these cars anymore. Perhaps if the government used just 25% of the money we pump into the middle east for buyers, we would see electric cars explode in popularity! If the US government gave financial incentives to auto makers, maybe they could come up with VERY affordable e-cars. I’m sure that there would be alot less loss of life!

  • Mark

    Can anyone drive by the dealership to see if this guy is real, maybe post a picture and get back to me.

    Mar

  • Mark

    Can anyone drive by the dealership to see if this guy is real, maybe post a picture and get back to me.

    Mar

  • http://www.buyingadvice.com/ stevee0506

    I think this car will be fine when we compare with the current gas prices as such…..Though only two people can travel in this car….personally i feel okay with this car…….When i went through the comments…i would like to know whether it comes under car or motorcycles…can anyone explain me? http://www.buyingadvice.com/

  • http://www.buyingadvice.com/ stevee0506

    I think this car will be fine when we compare with the current gas prices as such…..Though only two people can travel in this car….personally i feel okay with this car…….When i went through the comments…i would like to know whether it comes under car or motorcycles…can anyone explain me? http://www.buyingadvice.com/

  • tonya s

    yeah… umm… no!

    for around the same price you can get a midsize

    sedan from goss132. i’m glad there are more options

    to people who want an EV, but it’s all about the

    money. I can get a car that seats 4 comfortably,

    or this?? it’s goss all the way!

  • tonya s

    yeah… umm… no!

    for around the same price you can get a midsize

    sedan from goss132. i’m glad there are more options

    to people who want an EV, but it’s all about the

    money. I can get a car that seats 4 comfortably,

    or this?? it’s goss all the way!

  • http://www.zerogasoline.com Ed

    This seems to be a pretty hefty price tag for what you get. This will basically take you to and from work. I think you’d be out of luck if you needed to bring anyone with you or (I know this will sound crazy) if you need to get some groceries.

    I am in the middle of converting my car to be 100% electric. The total cost will end up right around $7,000 and it will certainly be a much more functional vehicle than this is at $20,000. You can see my project at http://www.zerogasoline.com

  • http://www.zerogasoline.com Ed

    This seems to be a pretty hefty price tag for what you get. This will basically take you to and from work. I think you’d be out of luck if you needed to bring anyone with you or (I know this will sound crazy) if you need to get some groceries.

    I am in the middle of converting my car to be 100% electric. The total cost will end up right around $7,000 and it will certainly be a much more functional vehicle than this is at $20,000. You can see my project at http://www.zerogasoline.com

  • Allan Jensen

    I want to see the concept of electric vehicle extended. A electric vehicle with removable hybrid option. A day to day commuter electric vehicle is great especially if I can travel to work or the shops for 2c a mile. But for occasional and optional longer trips id like a trailer or bolt on unit that can extend my range, but be easily removed again for commuter work. OPEC will lose its power over me as i can easily decide its to expensive to go on a longer trip but ill still have my commuter vehicle. So to sum up an electric battery vehicle with solar panel and mains charging, or my own alternative power. But a easily removable trailer or reverse in and bolt on generator which makes it a hybrid concept for long trips that are maybe 5% of my trips. And if I went camping it could power some lights and music. The battery unit could even be removable depending on needs. The trick will be making the removable unit easily removed and replaced perhaps different sizes of generator will be available depending on need and fuel availability. Also it should include a solar panel hopefully this will charge the vehicle so its charged for the home trip from work or the shops extending its range while driving and when its parked.

    This could include single user vehicles or 2,4 passenger vehicles. No need to buy fuel, its optional. This concept could be used for conversion vehicles also, a trailer, generator….optional extended range for those infrequent trips but the best of electric vehicles benefits for day to day use.

  • Allan Jensen

    I want to see the concept of electric vehicle extended. A electric vehicle with removable hybrid option. A day to day commuter electric vehicle is great especially if I can travel to work or the shops for 2c a mile. But for occasional and optional longer trips id like a trailer or bolt on unit that can extend my range, but be easily removed again for commuter work. OPEC will lose its power over me as i can easily decide its to expensive to go on a longer trip but ill still have my commuter vehicle. So to sum up an electric battery vehicle with solar panel and mains charging, or my own alternative power. But a easily removable trailer or reverse in and bolt on generator which makes it a hybrid concept for long trips that are maybe 5% of my trips. And if I went camping it could power some lights and music. The battery unit could even be removable depending on needs. The trick will be making the removable unit easily removed and replaced perhaps different sizes of generator will be available depending on need and fuel availability. Also it should include a solar panel hopefully this will charge the vehicle so its charged for the home trip from work or the shops extending its range while driving and when its parked.

    This could include single user vehicles or 2,4 passenger vehicles. No need to buy fuel, its optional. This concept could be used for conversion vehicles also, a trailer, generator….optional extended range for those infrequent trips but the best of electric vehicles benefits for day to day use.

  • john

    I think this is good news, and worth watching, but we should be more carfull about it’s practical uses. You said most poeple drive less than X miles a day. That is true… but only as an average. A large number of people drive considerably, and a large number drive very little. Take me for instance: I drive 2.5 miles to drop the kids off at daycare and 3 miles to work that is 5.5 miles to and 5.5 miles from. Total 11 miles a day, at the 32 miles round trip to the grocery store ( all shopping done together)and the average is about 17 miles…. i fit your model, take my brother… 31 miles one way to work. that is 62 miles a day. Stop off to get something from the store twice a week and add 5 miles per trip average. hes up to 63 miles per day average. imagine getting off of work and saying I have to go home and get my gas car because to go to my brothers house it will be 8 miles past my trip limit.

    once again… good tech, but usable enough for most. besides if I have to keep a second car for longer trips, the cost of gas savings on the first does not cover the new car not or added insurance.

  • john

    I think this is good news, and worth watching, but we should be more carfull about it’s practical uses. You said most poeple drive less than X miles a day. That is true… but only as an average. A large number of people drive considerably, and a large number drive very little. Take me for instance: I drive 2.5 miles to drop the kids off at daycare and 3 miles to work that is 5.5 miles to and 5.5 miles from. Total 11 miles a day, at the 32 miles round trip to the grocery store ( all shopping done together)and the average is about 17 miles…. i fit your model, take my brother… 31 miles one way to work. that is 62 miles a day. Stop off to get something from the store twice a week and add 5 miles per trip average. hes up to 63 miles per day average. imagine getting off of work and saying I have to go home and get my gas car because to go to my brothers house it will be 8 miles past my trip limit.

    once again… good tech, but usable enough for most. besides if I have to keep a second car for longer trips, the cost of gas savings on the first does not cover the new car not or added insurance.

  • http://www.springbrooke.tripod.com R Brooks

    I have and have driven a 3 wheeled runabout for about 5 years (www.gizmo-ev.com) it travels at 45 mph, has a range of 40-50 miles on a 25 cent charge and is a viable alternative 2nd vehicle for groceries, errands personal transport etc. It is not intended as a replacement for a long range 4-6 passenger family vehicle. I use a diesel running waste veg oil for that. If you don’t want it don’t get one. OPEC will still need some customers even when oil hits $200+ a barrel. Enjoy!

  • http://www.springbrooke.tripod.com R Brooks

    I have and have driven a 3 wheeled runabout for about 5 years (www.gizmo-ev.com) it travels at 45 mph, has a range of 40-50 miles on a 25 cent charge and is a viable alternative 2nd vehicle for groceries, errands personal transport etc. It is not intended as a replacement for a long range 4-6 passenger family vehicle. I use a diesel running waste veg oil for that. If you don’t want it don’t get one. OPEC will still need some customers even when oil hits $200+ a barrel. Enjoy!

  • DAVID BOWMAN

    I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WHILE NOT PERFECT, THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ELECTRIC CARS WILL NOT GET “ON THE ROAD” WITHOUT HEALTHY COMPETATION AND IT HAS TO START SOMEWHERE. SO WHILE THIS MAY NOT BE THE PERFECT SOLUTION TO REPLACING THE LARGER VEHICLES WE ARE ALL USED TO, IT WILL START A TREND LEADING TO NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT WILL EVENTUALLY GIVE US A GREEN CAR THAT WILL BE LARGE ENOUGH AND GO THE DISTANCE FOR THE AVERAGE FAMILY, AMERICAN OR OTHERWISE.

  • DAVID BOWMAN

    I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WHILE NOT PERFECT, THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ELECTRIC CARS WILL NOT GET “ON THE ROAD” WITHOUT HEALTHY COMPETATION AND IT HAS TO START SOMEWHERE. SO WHILE THIS MAY NOT BE THE PERFECT SOLUTION TO REPLACING THE LARGER VEHICLES WE ARE ALL USED TO, IT WILL START A TREND LEADING TO NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT WILL EVENTUALLY GIVE US A GREEN CAR THAT WILL BE LARGE ENOUGH AND GO THE DISTANCE FOR THE AVERAGE FAMILY, AMERICAN OR OTHERWISE.

  • http://www.mppbodyguards.com Dominic m

    once the car companys put a little effort in the electric vehicals,they will blow away the gas vehicals.they have one moving part compared to dozens on the gas hog..that means kiddies its fast real fast small electric cars are blowing away ferrari”s off on a quater mile.no smog mabee we will see the sky again.oh yea we can make more electricity from the sun in america or wind.hey the first gas car was a junker .lets do this its up to us not a bunch of jerks in washington.just buy electric ,do it.quit the finger pointing .once the demands thier they will build what jerky boy wants a big s u v but all electric that if you hit a speed bump you wont roll over .i think thats what most of us want..the batteries are the issue so get in the garrage future bill gates and make one(battery) and you will be bill gates rich..you want to get even for 9-11 buy electric and hopefully a american car company will build the majority of them..thanks god bless america

  • http://www.mppbodyguards.com Dominic m

    once the car companys put a little effort in the electric vehicals,they will blow away the gas vehicals.they have one moving part compared to dozens on the gas hog..that means kiddies its fast real fast small electric cars are blowing away ferrari”s off on a quater mile.no smog mabee we will see the sky again.oh yea we can make more electricity from the sun in america or wind.hey the first gas car was a junker .lets do this its up to us not a bunch of jerks in washington.just buy electric ,do it.quit the finger pointing .once the demands thier they will build what jerky boy wants a big s u v but all electric that if you hit a speed bump you wont roll over .i think thats what most of us want..the batteries are the issue so get in the garrage future bill gates and make one(battery) and you will be bill gates rich..you want to get even for 9-11 buy electric and hopefully a american car company will build the majority of them..thanks god bless america

  • erik

    what is wrong with air cars? Can the MYT engine not run on compressed atmosphere air. That is a combustion engine that can be swapped into anything. It seems silly that we waste time talking about EV hybrid and hydrogen fuel cell cars when we can make brutally efficient vehicles without changing to a new kind of technology. We can just alter the arrangement of the 100 year proven combustion engine.

  • erik

    what is wrong with air cars? Can the MYT engine not run on compressed atmosphere air. That is a combustion engine that can be swapped into anything. It seems silly that we waste time talking about EV hybrid and hydrogen fuel cell cars when we can make brutally efficient vehicles without changing to a new kind of technology. We can just alter the arrangement of the 100 year proven combustion engine.

  • http://www.alvinodesign.com Gianpaolo Alvino

    They copied my project of the Comet (look at the comet here http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q236/dotcommodity/comet.jpg )

    Thanks for reporting that, I’ll start a legal action

    regards

  • http://www.alvinodesign.com Gianpaolo Alvino

    They copied my project of the Comet (look at the comet here http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q236/dotcommodity/comet.jpg )

    Thanks for reporting that, I’ll start a legal action

    regards

  • http://peterthethinker.com/tesla/Venom/Venom.html peter

    can you say corbin !!!! i like it and its not a bad price for REAL batteres LI-ion….

    now if only my school had a close outlet.. until then i am takeing the propane route..

    the name TRIAC hmmmm SCRs anyone?? what no IGBT drive

    ….. BTW all the kids here drive thoes coffins on wheels AKA scions.. ULGY! this thing has curves …

  • http://peterthethinker.com/tesla/Venom/Venom.html peter

    can you say corbin !!!! i like it and its not a bad price for REAL batteres LI-ion….

    now if only my school had a close outlet.. until then i am takeing the propane route..

    the name TRIAC hmmmm SCRs anyone?? what no IGBT drive

    ….. BTW all the kids here drive thoes coffins on wheels AKA scions.. ULGY! this thing has curves …

  • David

    Great post, I’m really looking for something like this, I can’t wait for a better car to come out, I’ll be selling my 2008 Ford Mustang for an EV, I’m really tired of spending about $55 every 300 miles, I’m spending about the same amount that I spend for auto insurance every 6 months on gas, I’ll spend about $6000 for gas and insurance for 1 year with my mustang.

  • David

    Great post, I’m really looking for something like this, I can’t wait for a better car to come out, I’ll be selling my 2008 Ford Mustang for an EV, I’m really tired of spending about $55 every 300 miles, I’m spending about the same amount that I spend for auto insurance every 6 months on gas, I’ll spend about $6000 for gas and insurance for 1 year with my mustang.

  • http://Spectrewriter.com jt

    See also the Joule from Optimal Energy of South Africa, which appeared early in October at the Paris Motor Car show.

    6 seats, 84 mph, 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, LiIo batteries, base range of 125 miles, optional additional battery for a range of 250 miles… designed by the guy who did the F-type for Jaguar. $25k USD, available 2010.

  • http://Spectrewriter.com jt

    See also the Joule from Optimal Energy of South Africa, which appeared early in October at the Paris Motor Car show.

    6 seats, 84 mph, 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, LiIo batteries, base range of 125 miles, optional additional battery for a range of 250 miles… designed by the guy who did the F-type for Jaguar. $25k USD, available 2010.

  • Antonio

    I’m thankful that the Motorcycle classification is broad enough to allow these INNOVATIVE new(old) vehicle designs to market, despite them not having advanced safety features.

    I like the trikes and plan to buy one this year; I know they haven’t passed(or even gone through) crash tests, and I’m willing to take the risk anyway in order to get the benefits; less oil, less war for oil etc.

    Bring on the Livingry, out with the killingry, to paraphrase Bucky Fuller.

    To be fair to the not-so-big-three, they are held to a higher standard than a “motorcycle” so their costs to market are huge.

    There’s nothing stopping them from making a Motorcycle/Trike themselves though. They’ve done concepts, but no resulting product.

    As for driving radius…90% of North Americans drive less than 40 miles daily, total.

    Ciao tutti,

    Antonio

  • Antonio

    I’m thankful that the Motorcycle classification is broad enough to allow these INNOVATIVE new(old) vehicle designs to market, despite them not having advanced safety features.

    I like the trikes and plan to buy one this year; I know they haven’t passed(or even gone through) crash tests, and I’m willing to take the risk anyway in order to get the benefits; less oil, less war for oil etc.

    Bring on the Livingry, out with the killingry, to paraphrase Bucky Fuller.

    To be fair to the not-so-big-three, they are held to a higher standard than a “motorcycle” so their costs to market are huge.

    There’s nothing stopping them from making a Motorcycle/Trike themselves though. They’ve done concepts, but no resulting product.

    As for driving radius…90% of North Americans drive less than 40 miles daily, total.

    Ciao tutti,

    Antonio

  • Craig Talbot

    Mr TC Gray is wrong. This “car” adheres to all federal motor vehicle safety regulations for motorcycles and to motor vehicle safety regulations for all states that allow trikes to have seats (rather than saddles)….which is most. While it may not be as safe as some cars with airbags, it is much safer than riding a motorcycle, which lacks any kind of roll cage….and which as far as I know are legal to drive on roads and highways in all states. For the 90% of us who drive less than 40 miles per day this car works. Those who wish to continue pigging up fossil fuel may continue…if they are willing to pay for it….until it runs out in 20-30 years anyway. And by the way Mr. Gray, most people who want to leave the country take an airplane, regardless of what kind of car they drive.

  • Craig Talbot

    Mr TC Gray is wrong. This “car” adheres to all federal motor vehicle safety regulations for motorcycles and to motor vehicle safety regulations for all states that allow trikes to have seats (rather than saddles)….which is most. While it may not be as safe as some cars with airbags, it is much safer than riding a motorcycle, which lacks any kind of roll cage….and which as far as I know are legal to drive on roads and highways in all states. For the 90% of us who drive less than 40 miles per day this car works. Those who wish to continue pigging up fossil fuel may continue…if they are willing to pay for it….until it runs out in 20-30 years anyway. And by the way Mr. Gray, most people who want to leave the country take an airplane, regardless of what kind of car they drive.

  • Aaron

    There is a very good aerodynamic reason to only have 3 wheels. My biggest questions would be a) the possible lack of a tax credit for something not (TRULY) a car, and b) if it’s legally a motorcycle, do I have to get a motorcycle license to drive one? What about a helmet?

  • Aaron

    There is a very good aerodynamic reason to only have 3 wheels. My biggest questions would be a) the possible lack of a tax credit for something not (TRULY) a car, and b) if it’s legally a motorcycle, do I have to get a motorcycle license to drive one? What about a helmet?

  • Saunya

    The EV1 was produced in america by GM from 1996-1999

    The price for the car used to compute lease payments was US$33,995 to US$43,995, which made for lease payments of US$299 to over US$574 per month. Since GM did not offer consumers the option to purchase at the end of the lease, the car’s residual value was never established making it impossible to determine the actual full purchase price or replacement value. One industry official said that each EV1 cost the company about US$80,000,[citation needed] including research, development and other associated costs.[25] The vehicle’s lease prices also depended on available state rebates. In 1999, the cost for the electricity used to power the car was computed to be one-third to half the cost of the equivalent amount of gasoline, and since that time, increases in gas prices may have made electricity relatively even less expensive (depending on customer location, recharging time and electricity billing variations — some utility companies have variable billing for peak vs. non-peak usage rates).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1

  • Saunya

    The EV1 was produced in america by GM from 1996-1999

    The price for the car used to compute lease payments was US$33,995 to US$43,995, which made for lease payments of US$299 to over US$574 per month. Since GM did not offer consumers the option to purchase at the end of the lease, the car’s residual value was never established making it impossible to determine the actual full purchase price or replacement value. One industry official said that each EV1 cost the company about US$80,000,[citation needed] including research, development and other associated costs.[25] The vehicle’s lease prices also depended on available state rebates. In 1999, the cost for the electricity used to power the car was computed to be one-third to half the cost of the equivalent amount of gasoline, and since that time, increases in gas prices may have made electricity relatively even less expensive (depending on customer location, recharging time and electricity billing variations — some utility companies have variable billing for peak vs. non-peak usage rates).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1

  • Petero

    This is never gonna work. Why do electric car makers insist on making something so flimsy and pathetic. The only thing that’s ‘CAR’ about it, is its CARtoonish appearance. It’s something only Noddy would drive. Available in any good toy shop.

  • Petero

    This is never gonna work. Why do electric car makers insist on making something so flimsy and pathetic. The only thing that’s ‘CAR’ about it, is its CARtoonish appearance. It’s something only Noddy would drive. Available in any good toy shop.

  • D

    I would buy one like this $20K TRIAV EV

  • D

    I would buy one like this $20K TRIAV EV

  • Art Boese

    How long would it take charged a battery of an electric if you used a cycle to do it.

    Art

  • Art Boese

    How long would it take charged a battery of an electric if you used a cycle to do it.

    Art

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