Fuel economy VW 1L Car

Published on May 7th, 2008 | by Benjamin Jones

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VW Confirms 1L Concept Will Become Reality in 2010

VW 1L Car

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There’s been talk about the VW 1L concept for years. Since VW built the original, fuel economy, safety, price, and release date has been speculated upon and argued about, and I’d finally stopped thinking it was ever going to happen. However, according to VW’s CEO, it should hit the market in 2010.

The VW 1L is so named because, in theory, it only consumes one liter of fuel per 100 kilometers traveled. For those of us in the US, this translates into about 235 MPG. Definitely far and above anything on the market currently. The concept, developed in 2002, actually got better fuel economy, scoring a sweet .89L/100km in VW testing. It’s likely to use more fuel in real world use, but with that kind of mileage in testing it’s unlikely that anyone would complain about an “unsatisfactory 200 MPG.”

The thing is, that kinda of fuel economy comes at the price of riding in an extremely small two seater, with the two seats being one in front of the other, a la jet plane, rather than a standard side by side. The 1L also looks frighteningly close to the ground, which is part of how it pulls off a drag coefficient of .159, much better than any current production vehicle. While the final design isn’t done, VW will probably power the car with a 1 cyclinder diesel engine of displacement lower the .5 L, meaning the car’s speed will top out at 120 km/h.

The other obvious issue is the one I’m sure you’re all wondering about too. How safe is this thing? While I’m not usually one to complain about small cars, the 1L is extremely light and low to the ground. If it were released in the US I could easily see it being run over by any old F150 or Hummer. Nothing is out right now about safety, but as the production date nears, I’m sure VW will be doing lots of testing to reassure the public.

2010 isn’t that far off, in fact, it’s about the same time the Volt is supposed to be hitting the streets, so you’ll likely hear a lot more good and bad about this car in the coming months.

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Benjamin Jones is a student of Dartmouth College and co-founder of EcoModder.com and writer at CollegeVegan.com. He is double majoring in Japanese and Linguistics, and is most interested in Sociolinguistics and Anthropology in Japan.



  • Super Mike

    No one will buy it. Here’s one for the car companies:

    – Just create a gas/electric plug-in hybrid.

    – Make it look somewhat like a normal car but with a lower drag co-efficient.

    – Stop shooting for numbers like 235mpg, and more like 120mpg.

    – Ship it in 2009, not a decade from now!

  • Super Mike

    No one will buy it. Here’s one for the car companies:

    – Just create a gas/electric plug-in hybrid.

    – Make it look somewhat like a normal car but with a lower drag co-efficient.

    – Stop shooting for numbers like 235mpg, and more like 120mpg.

    – Ship it in 2009, not a decade from now!

  • Super Mike?

    2010 is only one year later then 2009. Check your math.

  • Super Mike?

    2010 is only one year later then 2009. Check your math.

  • http://www.beagooddad.com/ Mike (but not quite Super Mike

    I’ll probably be looking to buy a new car in 2010-2012. My car is the car that I use for getting to work. We have a different car we use when hauling the kids around.

    If this car was available at that time period for the price that the Civics and Corollas are going for, I would definitely consider buying one. I could care less about whether it looks like a normal car. I just want it to get me to and from work and get decent (or amazing) gas mileage.

  • http://www.beagooddad.com/ Mike (but not quite Super Mike)

    I’ll probably be looking to buy a new car in 2010-2012. My car is the car that I use for getting to work. We have a different car we use when hauling the kids around.

    If this car was available at that time period for the price that the Civics and Corollas are going for, I would definitely consider buying one. I could care less about whether it looks like a normal car. I just want it to get me to and from work and get decent (or amazing) gas mileage.

  • http://Apteraforum.com Bob

    Also Aptera has a 300 mpg vehicle coming this winter 2008:

    http://Apteraforum.com

  • http://Apteraforum.com Bob

    Also Aptera has a 300 mpg vehicle coming this winter 2008:

    http://Apteraforum.com

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  • Big D

    Awsome. Speaking just for myself, anything that lessens the need for OIL the better. This car is not for everyone, but it would fit my commuting needs just fine providing it’s not in the Telsla price range. What is the proposed price?

  • mark

    Agreed, it will not sell in the US in any mass numbers unless they adopt a more traditional & bigger styling. They obviously have some engine technology tricks up their sleeve to achieve this. I can’t believe the drag is the main contributing factor to the mileage. I say create a regular bug that gets 100mpg and they will sell like crazy…

  • Big D

    Awsome. Speaking just for myself, anything that lessens the need for OIL the better. This car is not for everyone, but it would fit my commuting needs just fine providing it’s not in the Telsla price range. What is the proposed price?

  • mark

    Agreed, it will not sell in the US in any mass numbers unless they adopt a more traditional & bigger styling. They obviously have some engine technology tricks up their sleeve to achieve this. I can’t believe the drag is the main contributing factor to the mileage. I say create a regular bug that gets 100mpg and they will sell like crazy…

  • Chris

    Super Mike:

    – Gas/Electric plug-in hybrids continue to tax our already overloaded power grids.

    – It can either look like a “normal” car or have a lower drage co-efficient.

    – Shoot for 235, settle for 120

    – 2010 is not a decade from now, it’s only 2 years (calendar) or 1 model year away.

  • Chris

    Super Mike:

    – Gas/Electric plug-in hybrids continue to tax our already overloaded power grids.

    – It can either look like a “normal” car or have a lower drage co-efficient.

    – Shoot for 235, settle for 120

    – 2010 is not a decade from now, it’s only 2 years (calendar) or 1 model year away.

  • JF

    It’s probably true that noone would want to buy it as a main car but it would make a handy second-car for the shorter rides. It does not look so freakishly outlandish as some other concept-cars I’ve seen and it might have a chance.

    As for your other complaints:

    – Gas/electric is nice….but too heavy for that small a car.

    – Normal car…Yeah, of course, it would look nicer, but it could also be that in 15 years every car looks like this. Remember the first cars? Also, most conceptcars look even more outlandish. This one looks reasonably normal.

    – Always shoot for higher stakes. The problem with current cars is that people often think “oh….30-40-50 mpg is already good” whereas it can be much much better.

    – 2010 – 2008 = 2 years. Decade? Not even close.

  • JF

    It’s probably true that noone would want to buy it as a main car but it would make a handy second-car for the shorter rides. It does not look so freakishly outlandish as some other concept-cars I’ve seen and it might have a chance.

    As for your other complaints:

    – Gas/electric is nice….but too heavy for that small a car.

    – Normal car…Yeah, of course, it would look nicer, but it could also be that in 15 years every car looks like this. Remember the first cars? Also, most conceptcars look even more outlandish. This one looks reasonably normal.

    – Always shoot for higher stakes. The problem with current cars is that people often think “oh….30-40-50 mpg is already good” whereas it can be much much better.

    – 2010 – 2008 = 2 years. Decade? Not even close.

  • http://car-swap-meet.damox.com Car Encyclopedia

    Some single people will buy this car. Although it doesn’t look like much, green cars are a status symbol in some circles.

  • http://car-swap-meet.damox.com Car Encyclopedia

    Some single people will buy this car. Although it doesn’t look like much, green cars are a status symbol in some circles.

  • Mouse

    What are you talking about? I’d buy that in a heartbeat. If it gets the mileage they’re talking about then I’d be more than willing to buy that.

  • Mouse

    What are you talking about? I’d buy that in a heartbeat. If it gets the mileage they’re talking about then I’d be more than willing to buy that.

  • Travis

    @Super Mike:

    Keep thinking that way, as technology and society speed past you and you wonder what happened.

  • Travis

    @Super Mike:

    Keep thinking that way, as technology and society speed past you and you wonder what happened.

  • Clay

    Probably appealing to the super-greenies, motorcyclers, and folks who are looking for an all weather alternative to a motorcycle… But it’s not going to have the appeal of a smart car. Echoing “Super Mike’s” comments, quit striving for 120 MPG years out in the future and start delivering something like 50 MPG today!!!

  • Clay

    Probably appealing to the super-greenies, motorcyclers, and folks who are looking for an all weather alternative to a motorcycle… But it’s not going to have the appeal of a smart car. Echoing “Super Mike’s” comments, quit striving for 120 MPG years out in the future and start delivering something like 50 MPG today!!!

  • Chris D

    Super Mike, you’re wrong. I would absolutely buy this car. I think it’s a game-changer, and bravo to VW if they get it on the market.

  • Chris D

    Super Mike, you’re wrong. I would absolutely buy this car. I think it’s a game-changer, and bravo to VW if they get it on the market.

  • Horatio

    People will buy it especially as gas prices increase. The problem is we are stuck in 1950s thinking but we don’t live in that world anymore. The smaller size won’t matter because no one will be able to afford to drive a Hummer or a pick up truck and they will start to vanish from the roads. Resale on a Hummer will be zilch. VW would be crazy not to advertise 235mph. I see every car commuting into the city having only one person so why do we need such big cars anyway?

  • Horatio

    People will buy it especially as gas prices increase. The problem is we are stuck in 1950s thinking but we don’t live in that world anymore. The smaller size won’t matter because no one will be able to afford to drive a Hummer or a pick up truck and they will start to vanish from the roads. Resale on a Hummer will be zilch. VW would be crazy not to advertise 235mph. I see every car commuting into the city having only one person so why do we need such big cars anyway?

  • Mubaque

    Maybe it’s not SO interesting in the US, but there will be a lot of Europeans that will eventually buy such kind of car. That’s an ideal city-car.

    Besides, 2010 is in 1.5 years not a decade!

  • Mubaque

    Maybe it’s not SO interesting in the US, but there will be a lot of Europeans that will eventually buy such kind of car. That’s an ideal city-car.

    Besides, 2010 is in 1.5 years not a decade!

  • artimusbill

    Mark, the high mpg numbers for this are a result of low drag, very low weight (less than 700, iirc), and a very small, efficient, low rev’ing diesel engine. And if it was priced in the 15-17k range, I would be all over it. I don’t consider myself a tree hugger type, but for my 20 mile commute to work, this would be perfect. If they can make a profit on say 30k units a year at an affordable price, I think it would do well for VW.

  • artimusbill

    Mark, the high mpg numbers for this are a result of low drag, very low weight (less than 700, iirc), and a very small, efficient, low rev’ing diesel engine. And if it was priced in the 15-17k range, I would be all over it. I don’t consider myself a tree hugger type, but for my 20 mile commute to work, this would be perfect. If they can make a profit on say 30k units a year at an affordable price, I think it would do well for VW.

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  • Terry

    If a single 1-cylinder engine gets 235 MPG in a tiny car, wouldn’t the same sort of engine in a 4-cylinder model get ~60 MPG? I’d settle for 60 MPG in a normal size sub-compact car.

  • Terry

    If a single 1-cylinder engine gets 235 MPG in a tiny car, wouldn’t the same sort of engine in a 4-cylinder model get ~60 MPG? I’d settle for 60 MPG in a normal size sub-compact car.

  • Alex

    I think cars like this will be a hit in Europe. In the Netherlands for example cars are generally smaller than in North America, and gas costs TWICE as much at the moment.

    Since most people there ride a bike as a primary or secondary transportation, they won’t be too worried about how the car looks.

  • Alex

    I think cars like this will be a hit in Europe. In the Netherlands for example cars are generally smaller than in North America, and gas costs TWICE as much at the moment.

    Since most people there ride a bike as a primary or secondary transportation, they won’t be too worried about how the car looks.

  • http://www.friuch.com/wordpress Aaron Cruikshank

    I’d buy this car under three conditions:

    1. It was under $20,000.

    2. I could fit in it (I’m 6’2″ and have trouble fitting in sub-compact cars already)

    3. It was classified like a motorcycle so that I could drive it in the HOV lane.

  • http://www.friuch.com/wordpress Aaron Cruikshank

    I’d buy this car under three conditions:

    1. It was under $20,000.

    2. I could fit in it (I’m 6’2″ and have trouble fitting in sub-compact cars already)

    3. It was classified like a motorcycle so that I could drive it in the HOV lane.

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  • http://www.zpya.com Daniel Travolto

    that car is so ugly i dont think anybody will buy it :-)

  • http://www.zpya.com Daniel Travolto

    that car is so ugly i dont think anybody will buy it :-)

  • Tunes

    Is that 235 with an American driving or a European? Our American “size” will hinder it a bit.

    But seriously, I think this WOULD work for some of us here. No car will work for everyone. But I think they could sell enough for it to make sense.

    It makes more sense than the SMART car considering I get better mileage with my Golf Diesel than the SMART car and I can carry 5 people (3 kids). And they are selling the SMART car here. So…..

  • Tunes

    Is that 235 with an American driving or a European? Our American “size” will hinder it a bit.

    But seriously, I think this WOULD work for some of us here. No car will work for everyone. But I think they could sell enough for it to make sense.

    It makes more sense than the SMART car considering I get better mileage with my Golf Diesel than the SMART car and I can carry 5 people (3 kids). And they are selling the SMART car here. So…..

  • Dave

    I used to ride a motorcycle. I gave it up because it is pretty hard to strap a kid on the back of your bike. If VW can price this at the Civic/Corolla price range, I’d buy one. It won’t handle and accelerate like a sport bike, but I can live with that for my daily commute. Plus, I’d be out of the weather, have a lockable space and can take the kid if I need to.

  • Dave

    I used to ride a motorcycle. I gave it up because it is pretty hard to strap a kid on the back of your bike. If VW can price this at the Civic/Corolla price range, I’d buy one. It won’t handle and accelerate like a sport bike, but I can live with that for my daily commute. Plus, I’d be out of the weather, have a lockable space and can take the kid if I need to.

  • Lint

    It’s curious that they’re trying to sell it in the country of the big trucks and hi-drag cars/gas-hoggers, this car will for sure sellout in all the third world, europe and japan (you don’t need to have a garage for cars with engine’s displacement smaller than 2/3 of a liter. And this drag coefficient is beyond crazy! The top drag coefficients cars are like what? .26? They should actually put a better engine, it may reduce the mileage but it would be much more attractive for normal consumers, perhaps it’s safety issues..

  • Lint

    It’s curious that they’re trying to sell it in the country of the big trucks and hi-drag cars/gas-hoggers, this car will for sure sellout in all the third world, europe and japan (you don’t need to have a garage for cars with engine’s displacement smaller than 2/3 of a liter. And this drag coefficient is beyond crazy! The top drag coefficients cars are like what? .26? They should actually put a better engine, it may reduce the mileage but it would be much more attractive for normal consumers, perhaps it’s safety issues..

  • Paul

    Well you won’t see it here unless it gets here in 2009. NOX output goes down in 2010 here in the states. Europe will match next year and then be behind in 2010 so the diesel engines won’t be coming in to the US in 2010. I assume that the engine is a diesel and not gas. Smart car has 3L per 100km now and you can’t get one to save your life in the US. Canada you can as well as Europe.

  • Paul

    Well you won’t see it here unless it gets here in 2009. NOX output goes down in 2010 here in the states. Europe will match next year and then be behind in 2010 so the diesel engines won’t be coming in to the US in 2010. I assume that the engine is a diesel and not gas. Smart car has 3L per 100km now and you can’t get one to save your life in the US. Canada you can as well as Europe.

  • crunchy

    The low-drag is great, but how’s it handle against gravity? A 1 cyclinder diesel sounds great for flat roads and commuting, but what if I need to go to a city in Appalachia or some other mountainous region?

  • crunchy

    The low-drag is great, but how’s it handle against gravity? A 1 cyclinder diesel sounds great for flat roads and commuting, but what if I need to go to a city in Appalachia or some other mountainous region?

  • http://watters.ws Michael

    It doesn’t look any less safe than a motorcycle, and you can drive it all year long. My car will be due for a replacement around 2010 and if they sell this here I may have to consider getting one.

  • http://watters.ws Michael

    It doesn’t look any less safe than a motorcycle, and you can drive it all year long. My car will be due for a replacement around 2010 and if they sell this here I may have to consider getting one.

  • http://NA Michael Sartor

    Nobody notices that these technologies have been around for decades, and developement should have been no more than a year…… Cars in 2010 mean that the companies are all STILL dragging their feet until they absolutely have no choice…. GM, Ford, and some others have bo’t and retired more useful devices than the rest of the whole world. It is disgusting, and remains just so…. Collaberation with the oil companies have kept us all in the dark for more years than I can count.

    Sometimes, Capitalism just does NOT work….

    Cyborg

  • http://cheatbuzz.com/ flaquito

    It would only be dangerous because of all the a**holes driving Hummer’s and Escalade’s. If everyone drove a sensible sized car, smaller cars would be much safer. For the record, the Smart car is safer than most mid-sized cars because of it’s frame construction. You don’t know anything about the construction of this VW, so this might be equally safe.

  • http://cheatbuzz.com/ flaquito

    It would only be dangerous because of all the a**holes driving Hummer’s and Escalade’s. If everyone drove a sensible sized car, smaller cars would be much safer. For the record, the Smart car is safer than most mid-sized cars because of it’s frame construction. You don’t know anything about the construction of this VW, so this might be equally safe.

  • Jeff

    Someone please put out an efficient, small, 4 door, diesel pickup truck…. it can’t be that hard for one to beat the <20mpg of my Nissan Frontier 4dr 4×4.

  • Jeff

    Someone please put out an efficient, small, 4 door, diesel pickup truck…. it can’t be that hard for one to beat the <20mpg of my Nissan Frontier 4dr 4×4.

  • http://www.jhn1.blogspot.com J’hn1

    If they can make the EU market with this efficiency, I would expect the US legal market to get the 160MPG if it meets US motorcycle standards, and under 80MPG if it has to meet US 2010 car standards. And under 60MPG by 2012.

    Tightening emissions and safety standards is not cost free, no matter what the Greens tell us.

  • http://www.jhn1.blogspot.com J’hn1

    If they can make the EU market with this efficiency, I would expect the US legal market to get the 160MPG if it meets US motorcycle standards, and under 80MPG if it has to meet US 2010 car standards. And under 60MPG by 2012.

    Tightening emissions and safety standards is not cost free, no matter what the Greens tell us.

  • luagha

    I’d be a little worried about two guys loading it into the back of their pickup truck to steal it…

  • luagha

    I’d be a little worried about two guys loading it into the back of their pickup truck to steal it…

  • Bev

    Since when does 100 kilometers = 236 miles? More like 62.1 miles

  • Bev

    Since when does 100 kilometers = 236 miles? More like 62.1 miles

  • sagi

    For plug-ins and other alternative vehicles or combos, we need to start talking about miles per dollar, not MPG.

    And include the subsidies that contribute to the bottom line cost.

  • sagi

    For plug-ins and other alternative vehicles or combos, we need to start talking about miles per dollar, not MPG.

    And include the subsidies that contribute to the bottom line cost.

  • Dave S.

    “Sometimes, Capitalism just does NOT work….”

    Yeah, we’d be better off driving Trabants. Sheesh.

    If all the genius anti-capitalist, anti-oil-company conspirazoid greenies would pool their awesome brainpower together, maybe they could build their fairydust-powered dream cars that The Man is keeping from them. Instead of just complaining.

    Anyway, I think this machine is pretty cool. If it goes for under twenty grand and can handle snow, I’m in.

  • Dave S.

    “Sometimes, Capitalism just does NOT work….”

    Yeah, we’d be better off driving Trabants. Sheesh.

    If all the genius anti-capitalist, anti-oil-company conspirazoid greenies would pool their awesome brainpower together, maybe they could build their fairydust-powered dream cars that The Man is keeping from them. Instead of just complaining.

    Anyway, I think this machine is pretty cool. If it goes for under twenty grand and can handle snow, I’m in.

  • Tom Frank

    That would be the perfect commuter car, and the looks are OUTSTANDING. If people will buy a ‘Smart’, they’ll snap these things up as fast as they make them if the price is anything close to reasonable.

    If they bring it to the US, I rather hope they ‘sacrifice’ a little bit of the mileage (gee, only 175 mpg…) to get the top speed up to a more reasonable 100 mph (160 km/hr), which is fairly common out west.

    Heck, the average speed on 128 around Boston is either 20 or 90 mph.

  • Tom Frank

    That would be the perfect commuter car, and the looks are OUTSTANDING. If people will buy a ‘Smart’, they’ll snap these things up as fast as they make them if the price is anything close to reasonable.

    If they bring it to the US, I rather hope they ‘sacrifice’ a little bit of the mileage (gee, only 175 mpg…) to get the top speed up to a more reasonable 100 mph (160 km/hr), which is fairly common out west.

    Heck, the average speed on 128 around Boston is either 20 or 90 mph.

  • Dave S.

    “Since when does 100 kilometers = 236 miles? More like 62.1 miles”

    1 liter = .26 gallons. 100 kilometers per liter = 238 mpg. You’re reading it wrong.

  • Dave S.

    “Since when does 100 kilometers = 236 miles? More like 62.1 miles”

    1 liter = .26 gallons. 100 kilometers per liter = 238 mpg. You’re reading it wrong.

  • Mike

    Bev, it’s 100km per Liter (or, very roughly, a quart). So it’s 400km per gallon, which is 240 miles, rounding everything off quite a bit.

    I’m sure it would be great as a city car, especially in Europe. Its proposed top speed works out to 72 mph, which is only slightly lower than my old Geo Metro (I got it up to 80 once, but it wasn’t easy). Not a car for the Interstates, for sure. Or freeways in general, unless its light weight gives it decent acceleration. I agree with some of the others: shoot for 100 mpg in a slightly larger, slightly more powerful car, keep it simple and crank them out to keep the price down, and it’ll kill in the US market.

  • Mike

    Bev, it’s 100km per Liter (or, very roughly, a quart). So it’s 400km per gallon, which is 240 miles, rounding everything off quite a bit.

    I’m sure it would be great as a city car, especially in Europe. Its proposed top speed works out to 72 mph, which is only slightly lower than my old Geo Metro (I got it up to 80 once, but it wasn’t easy). Not a car for the Interstates, for sure. Or freeways in general, unless its light weight gives it decent acceleration. I agree with some of the others: shoot for 100 mpg in a slightly larger, slightly more powerful car, keep it simple and crank them out to keep the price down, and it’ll kill in the US market.

  • Patrick Kovchok

    Terry:

    “I’d settle for 60 MPG in a normal size sub-compact car.”

    The 2008 VW Jetta TDI stick will be sold in September and gets 60 mpg. It was already spotted on a truck, car carrier, today May 7th, 2008 in South Carolina. The guy who spotted it called his VW dealer. The dealer says one model is going to each dealership now, for test drive purposes. Stop by your nearest dealer and leave your number. Have them call you when it gets in. They said 30-40 percent of the Jetta wagons will be TDI. They guess the sedan percentage will be higher.

    My 2000 VW Jetta TDI 5 speed stick gets 43 mpg and has 184,000 miles on it. The new ones have 6 speed stick and a more up to date computer chip. 60 mpg. Good luck.

  • Patrick Kovchok

    Terry:

    “I’d settle for 60 MPG in a normal size sub-compact car.”

    The 2008 VW Jetta TDI stick will be sold in September and gets 60 mpg. It was already spotted on a truck, car carrier, today May 7th, 2008 in South Carolina. The guy who spotted it called his VW dealer. The dealer says one model is going to each dealership now, for test drive purposes. Stop by your nearest dealer and leave your number. Have them call you when it gets in. They said 30-40 percent of the Jetta wagons will be TDI. They guess the sedan percentage will be higher.

    My 2000 VW Jetta TDI 5 speed stick gets 43 mpg and has 184,000 miles on it. The new ones have 6 speed stick and a more up to date computer chip. 60 mpg. Good luck.

  • Dave S.

    Reading the linked article, I found this-

    “Everything in the car was made out of lightweight carbon-fiber or magnesium, gears were hollowed, and bolts were made from titanium… the VW 1L was designed without side mirrors (too much drag), instead relying on internal video screens to guide the driver.”

    So much for sub-$20,000.

  • Dave S.

    Reading the linked article, I found this-

    “Everything in the car was made out of lightweight carbon-fiber or magnesium, gears were hollowed, and bolts were made from titanium… the VW 1L was designed without side mirrors (too much drag), instead relying on internal video screens to guide the driver.”

    So much for sub-$20,000.

  • Sam

    I want a plug-in hybrid that seats at least 4 safely and modern nuke plants down the wire supplying the juice when I charge it over night for pennies.

    This thing is a joke.

  • Sam

    I want a plug-in hybrid that seats at least 4 safely and modern nuke plants down the wire supplying the juice when I charge it over night for pennies.

    This thing is a joke.

  • Brendon

    ooops….

    Bev, thats 100 Km on ~1 litre. ~4 litres per gallon hence 62.1 * 4….

  • Brendon

    ooops….

    Bev, thats 100 Km on ~1 litre. ~4 litres per gallon hence 62.1 * 4….

  • http://bcostin.wordpress.com Bryan Costin

    Wow, I’m glad some of you guys weren’t advising the Beetle’s and Mini’s stylists. “It’ll never sell. Make it look just like an Escort. Our customers demand generic styling!”

    They need to keep this original styling, or as close as possible after refactoring it for production. The people who are interested in this kind of car are exactly the sort who appreciate driving a car that’s unique. A boring, conventional design will lose your best customers and your best buzz, and won’t make up for it in sales to people who’d prefer to buy a Focus or a Prius anyway.

  • http://bcostin.wordpress.com Bryan Costin

    Wow, I’m glad some of you guys weren’t advising the Beetle’s and Mini’s stylists. “It’ll never sell. Make it look just like an Escort. Our customers demand generic styling!”

    They need to keep this original styling, or as close as possible after refactoring it for production. The people who are interested in this kind of car are exactly the sort who appreciate driving a car that’s unique. A boring, conventional design will lose your best customers and your best buzz, and won’t make up for it in sales to people who’d prefer to buy a Focus or a Prius anyway.

  • Matt

    If my 6’4″ body will fit in it, and its under 30K, I will buy one. I will keep my truck and use this to go to work in. At 235mpg I would need less than 5 gallons a month.

  • Matt

    If my 6’4″ body will fit in it, and its under 30K, I will buy one. I will keep my truck and use this to go to work in. At 235mpg I would need less than 5 gallons a month.

  • Pastafarian

    Let me guess. 235 mpg. Price tag? $91,0000. Right? Probably. Thanks I’ll pass.

  • Pastafarian

    Let me guess. 235 mpg. Price tag? $91,0000. Right? Probably. Thanks I’ll pass.

  • Jim McMichael

    I would buy one in a heartbeat if it is affordable. I currently make do with a Yamaha Royal Star motorcycle as my 2nd car (only 45mpg in town/50 mpg highway). It would be safer, warmer, and dryer than a motorcycle. Can’t wait to see one in real life.

  • Jim McMichael

    I would buy one in a heartbeat if it is affordable. I currently make do with a Yamaha Royal Star motorcycle as my 2nd car (only 45mpg in town/50 mpg highway). It would be safer, warmer, and dryer than a motorcycle. Can’t wait to see one in real life.

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  • http://www.waterpetrolcar.com brian

    Faster please! I need on now. Imagine going cross country with one tank of fuel

    Brian

    http://www.waterpetrolcar.com

  • http://www.waterpetrolcar.com brian

    Faster please! I need on now. Imagine going cross country with one tank of fuel

    Brian

    http://www.waterpetrolcar.com

  • Nick Houser

    I aplaud VW for radical thinking—why not

    push the envelope for REALLY better fuel economy–It has to happen somehow!!!!! I

    just hope that it can pass safety standards and at least a FEW of them can

    show up on the road

  • Nick Houser

    I aplaud VW for radical thinking—why not

    push the envelope for REALLY better fuel economy–It has to happen somehow!!!!! I

    just hope that it can pass safety standards and at least a FEW of them can

    show up on the road

  • AC

    anyone know how much this will cost?

  • AC

    anyone know how much this will cost?

  • J Baustian

    A huge percentage of commuter vehicles never carry more than two people, and most only carry the driver. This vehicle would be the perfect commuter vehicle

  • J Baustian

    A huge percentage of commuter vehicles never carry more than two people, and most only carry the driver. This vehicle would be the perfect commuter vehicle

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  • http://jclarkerealty.com middle aged biker1

    This is ideal for the middle aged want to be & upper aged biker.

    It also looks safer then a motorcycle. Still make as safe as possible it’s a good selling tool.

    Price in the motorcyle range and it will be sell.

    Keep the price toward the lower end of the motorclcle and it will dominate.

    Good luck!

    If test parties are needed sign me up.

  • http://jclarkerealty.com middle aged biker1

    This is ideal for the middle aged want to be & upper aged biker.

    It also looks safer then a motorcycle. Still make as safe as possible it’s a good selling tool.

    Price in the motorcyle range and it will be sell.

    Keep the price toward the lower end of the motorclcle and it will dominate.

    Good luck!

    If test parties are needed sign me up.

  • http://www.shareandrent.com Sunder

    I would love to buy it, but for some reason I think it will not beat my trusted road bike !

  • http://www.shareandrent.com Sunder

    I would love to buy it, but for some reason I think it will not beat my trusted road bike !

  • http://www.shareandrent.com Sunder

    I would love to buy it, but for some reason I think it will not beat my trusted road bike !

  • JS

    I would buy this car if it’s not too expensive

  • JS

    I would buy this car if it’s not too expensive

  • that one guy

    How much does this thing cost? It’s awsome but I’m not gonna buy it if its like $50,000.

  • that one guy

    How much does this thing cost? It’s awsome but I’m not gonna buy it if its like $50,000.

  • Bill

    Really big time like this car, what I have been wanting for years – please make it VW and soon.

    Bill

  • Bill

    Really big time like this car, what I have been wanting for years – please make it VW and soon.

    Bill

  • Mark Crane

    I think you need to compare this to a motorcycle, rather than a hummer. From that perspective it makes a great deal of sense–weatherproof, much safer, and probably will include some sort roll cage.

  • Mark Crane

    I think you need to compare this to a motorcycle, rather than a hummer. From that perspective it makes a great deal of sense–weatherproof, much safer, and probably will include some sort roll cage.

  • Mark Crane

    I think you need to compare this to a motorcycle, rather than a hummer. From that perspective it makes a great deal of sense–weatherproof, much safer, and probably will include some sort roll cage.

  • Sophie

    Biking in to work, the thing you notice is that *everyone* is driving to work alone. Apparently, people don’t carpool and they don’t take public transportation, they don’t bike and (probably) they don’t live very close to where they work.

    I breathe the many exhaust fumes from the 4000lbs of machine hauling the 150lbs of person around.

    So I hope the green car “status symbol” thing takes over and the 40 sq ft massive SUV “status symbol” thing dies – the world will be *objectively* better for it.

  • Sophie

    Biking in to work, the thing you notice is that *everyone* is driving to work alone. Apparently, people don’t carpool and they don’t take public transportation, they don’t bike and (probably) they don’t live very close to where they work.

    I breathe the many exhaust fumes from the 4000lbs of machine hauling the 150lbs of person around.

    So I hope the green car “status symbol” thing takes over and the 40 sq ft massive SUV “status symbol” thing dies – the world will be *objectively* better for it.

  • Corey

    It’s pretty sad that I drive a 2001 Echo, getting 41 – 47 mpg, and that 7 years later there is absolutely nothing better on the market unless you want to add $10k for a Prius.

    I have 171k on the car, and hope it will last until the Aptera or 1L are available.

    I commute 70 miles round per day, and the savings would be significant. I don’t care what it looks like, and the best safety equipment is the common sence of the driver.

  • Corey

    It’s pretty sad that I drive a 2001 Echo, getting 41 – 47 mpg, and that 7 years later there is absolutely nothing better on the market unless you want to add $10k for a Prius.

    I have 171k on the car, and hope it will last until the Aptera or 1L are available.

    I commute 70 miles round per day, and the savings would be significant. I don’t care what it looks like, and the best safety equipment is the common sence of the driver.

  • Corey

    It’s pretty sad that I drive a 2001 Echo, getting 41 – 47 mpg, and that 7 years later there is absolutely nothing better on the market unless you want to add $10k for a Prius.

    I have 171k on the car, and hope it will last until the Aptera or 1L are available.

    I commute 70 miles round per day, and the savings would be significant. I don’t care what it looks like, and the best safety equipment is the common sence of the driver.

  • http://www.norcalcars.com/articles/highgaspricerelief.aspx Tiny compacts

    I work with a lot of used cars dealers. Even with the rising gas prices people are not flocking to the Tiny compacts. Perhaps thats only because they offer 10-20 mpg than the more comfortable less efficient cars, but the motivation doesn’t seem strong enough for the main stream car buyer yet.

  • http://www.norcalcars.com/articles/highgaspricerelief.aspx Tiny compacts

    I work with a lot of used cars dealers. Even with the rising gas prices people are not flocking to the Tiny compacts. Perhaps thats only because they offer 10-20 mpg than the more comfortable less efficient cars, but the motivation doesn’t seem strong enough for the main stream car buyer yet.

  • jd

    I love the idea of all these extremely fuel efficient cars, but they all look so weird. They should make a car like this except with a reasonable body style, but if not, i dont care it will still be awesome to have a car that gets i liter every 100k.

  • jd

    I love the idea of all these extremely fuel efficient cars, but they all look so weird. They should make a car like this except with a reasonable body style, but if not, i dont care it will still be awesome to have a car that gets i liter every 100k.

  • jd

    I love the idea of all these extremely fuel efficient cars, but they all look so weird. They should make a car like this except with a reasonable body style, but if not, i dont care it will still be awesome to have a car that gets i liter every 100k.

  • http://google c

    how much will it cost?

  • LFTDI

    Don’t worry about safety, by 2010 there will be no F150 or Hummers left on the road. ;)

  • LFTDI

    Don’t worry about safety, by 2010 there will be no F150 or Hummers left on the road. ;)

  • LFTDI

    Don’t worry about safety, by 2010 there will be no F150 or Hummers left on the road. ;)

  • Phil

    Bigger? You’ve got to be kidding. I commute 50 miles every day, and 98% of the cars I pass have only one passenger. Why are there no one passenger cars that are good at highway speeds? This thing gets super mileage and will carry one passenger at 75 mph…perfect. I’ll take it just like it is as soon as I can get one…they can screw it up later by making it bigger.

    Phil

  • Phil

    Bigger? You’ve got to be kidding. I commute 50 miles every day, and 98% of the cars I pass have only one passenger. Why are there no one passenger cars that are good at highway speeds? This thing gets super mileage and will carry one passenger at 75 mph…perfect. I’ll take it just like it is as soon as I can get one…they can screw it up later by making it bigger.

    Phil

  • Phil

    Bigger? You’ve got to be kidding. I commute 50 miles every day, and 98% of the cars I pass have only one passenger. Why are there no one passenger cars that are good at highway speeds? This thing gets super mileage and will carry one passenger at 75 mph…perfect. I’ll take it just like it is as soon as I can get one…they can screw it up later by making it bigger.

    Phil

  • Jason Tootle

    Depending on the price of this car with fuel prices being what they are I believe they would not be able to keep this 200+ mpg car on the lots. I think it looks a lot better than the EV-1 that was supposed to be great.

  • Jason Tootle

    Depending on the price of this car with fuel prices being what they are I believe they would not be able to keep this 200+ mpg car on the lots. I think it looks a lot better than the EV-1 that was supposed to be great.

  • Jason Tootle

    Depending on the price of this car with fuel prices being what they are I believe they would not be able to keep this 200+ mpg car on the lots. I think it looks a lot better than the EV-1 that was supposed to be great.

  • http://bt b.zgorzelski

    dear all,

    life is just getting a bit silly, as has been mentioned, firstly vw give us a normal golf that we all know and recognize, that will do 70mpg(us)gallon.

    DO not give us some space age looking car that, claims

    to do 200mpg plus.one step at a time vw otherwise you will trip up, then ford will simply do what you should of done!!!!!!!!!! history repeats itself-bad decisions,yet again from the board room that NEVER understands

    reality, or EVER asks people what is a practical solution.

    ps – some time ago i drove the vw lupo cousin-seat arosa with the 3cylinder tdi engine, and 64mpg URBAN(uk)gallon,and 70-80mpg(uk), gentle cruise, so vw with a bigger car for the AMERICAN MARKET-give us the golf, the the 70mpg (us)gallon car, stop wasting our time by telling us you might make a few for loan- we the american public want answers now!!! not tomorrow,not the year later,or the year after that if you dont want to build this car ,dont worry,either the japanese will, or to your cost,the AMERICAN PUBLIC will demand the ford motor company to build a similar car.WHAT vw is demonstrating is its complete inablity to make a good decisions, something which is creeping into the german nation.Its the same crazy decision to replace the current vw polo with a design that looks as though a child had something to do with this car!!!!

    I would suggest a few changes at vw before your brand is totally forgotten in north america-STOP PUSSY FOOTING WITH YOUR PRODUCTS-START GETTING TO THE FACTS OF WHAT WORKS IN LIFE-GET REAL-WAKE UP,STOP PATTING YOURSELVES ON THE BACK JUST BECAUSE you WON LE MAN 24HRS RACE -WITH THE V12TDI, ARROGANCE IS THE WORD.AND I am SADDENED TO SAY THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME GERMANY HAS FALLEN INTO THIS THINKING TRAP———– BEWARE VW/audi board of director (remember1939)

  • Tom

    Gush, with all these efforts in gas saving technology, I bet vehicle gas consumption will reduce dramatically in a few years and Texans can still enjoy their big ugly trucks and SUVs with a reasonable gas price very soon.

  • Tom

    Gush, with all these efforts in gas saving technology, I bet vehicle gas consumption will reduce dramatically in a few years and Texans can still enjoy their big ugly trucks and SUVs with a reasonable gas price very soon.

  • Tom

    Gush, with all these efforts in gas saving technology, I bet vehicle gas consumption will reduce dramatically in a few years and Texans can still enjoy their big ugly trucks and SUVs with a reasonable gas price very soon.

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  • Tim

    Just ship the damn 1.4 TDI Polo (70mpg) to the US. What the hell is VW waiting for?

  • Tim

    Just ship the damn 1.4 TDI Polo (70mpg) to the US. What the hell is VW waiting for?

  • Tim

    Just ship the damn 1.4 TDI Polo (70mpg) to the US. What the hell is VW waiting for?

  • http://n/a cymbol

    b.zgorzelski said: “stuff”

    ^

    Ignore this guy. I think the front-rear 2-seater with 235 mpg is very sexy and practical at the same time.

    To see how practical it is, next time you are on the road, pay attention to how many cars carry only the driver.

  • Ray

    Sorry to chime in so late but I can honestly say I’ll be in the front of the line to buy this one I think it is the perfect commuter car. I drive 100 miles a day just to and from work so the better the mpg the better. I guess I’ll put off buying a new car for a few more months till they release more info. I only hope they release it here in the US.

  • Ray

    Sorry to chime in so late but I can honestly say I’ll be in the front of the line to buy this one I think it is the perfect commuter car. I drive 100 miles a day just to and from work so the better the mpg the better. I guess I’ll put off buying a new car for a few more months till they release more info. I only hope they release it here in the US.

  • Ray

    Sorry to chime in so late but I can honestly say I’ll be in the front of the line to buy this one I think it is the perfect commuter car. I drive 100 miles a day just to and from work so the better the mpg the better. I guess I’ll put off buying a new car for a few more months till they release more info. I only hope they release it here in the US.

  • Greg Pruett

    Corey,

    I drive a 92 honda civic with 38-45 mpg. I know what you mean.

  • Greg Pruett

    Corey,

    I drive a 92 honda civic with 38-45 mpg. I know what you mean.

  • TTK

    I would buy this tomorrow if it were available, not simply because the cost of gasoline is so high, but because these “fuel efficient” cars that only get 35 mpg are insulting and wasteful when you consider the technology already exists which would allow us to do much, much better. Hopefully VW will offer a waiting list prior to the sale of this car.

  • TTK

    I would buy this tomorrow if it were available, not simply because the cost of gasoline is so high, but because these “fuel efficient” cars that only get 35 mpg are insulting and wasteful when you consider the technology already exists which would allow us to do much, much better. Hopefully VW will offer a waiting list prior to the sale of this car.

  • TTK

    I would buy this tomorrow if it were available, not simply because the cost of gasoline is so high, but because these “fuel efficient” cars that only get 35 mpg are insulting and wasteful when you consider the technology already exists which would allow us to do much, much better. Hopefully VW will offer a waiting list prior to the sale of this car.

  • Lisa

    Garbage! I would RUN to buy one! I’m so sick of the politics and BIG GUNS with the oil companies pushing mpg DOWN. WE KNOW IT CAN BE DONE!! And WITHOUT hydrogen cells or electricity–Honda’s Civic ran a steady 50mpg back in the 80s–I had one and when I sold it after 8 years it STILL GOT 70mpg!! Heck! Just 8 years ago I could get a Toyota Echo with 42mpg hwy but they ditched it for the similar Yaris that gets only 35 at best. Take a look people–ALL THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN! WE HAVE TO DEMAND BETTER FUEL EFFICIENCY!!!!

    I am American but I will buy WHOEVER gets me the best mpg car I can get–I don’t care if it’s produced in Cambodia! This is the ONLY way to force American car manufacturers to do better. We know they can..they just need incentive and oil companies ARENT gonna give it to them –WE HAVE TO!!

    I don’t care what this car looks like, I’m with the guy who said if he can get one for the equivalent price range he’d buy one. $13K-$18K and I’m in there too!

  • Lisa

    Garbage! I would RUN to buy one! I’m so sick of the politics and BIG GUNS with the oil companies pushing mpg DOWN. WE KNOW IT CAN BE DONE!! And WITHOUT hydrogen cells or electricity–Honda’s Civic ran a steady 50mpg back in the 80s–I had one and when I sold it after 8 years it STILL GOT 70mpg!! Heck! Just 8 years ago I could get a Toyota Echo with 42mpg hwy but they ditched it for the similar Yaris that gets only 35 at best. Take a look people–ALL THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN! WE HAVE TO DEMAND BETTER FUEL EFFICIENCY!!!!

    I am American but I will buy WHOEVER gets me the best mpg car I can get–I don’t care if it’s produced in Cambodia! This is the ONLY way to force American car manufacturers to do better. We know they can..they just need incentive and oil companies ARENT gonna give it to them –WE HAVE TO!!

    I don’t care what this car looks like, I’m with the guy who said if he can get one for the equivalent price range he’d buy one. $13K-$18K and I’m in there too!

  • Aaron

    I want this car. I saw it in an email…. said it was going for only 600 bucks some where in asia….. I find that hard to believe. I still want the car. I need to get rid of my rusted college beater!

  • Aaron

    I want this car. I saw it in an email…. said it was going for only 600 bucks some where in asia….. I find that hard to believe. I still want the car. I need to get rid of my rusted college beater!

  • eliz. holleman

    How does one sign up for one of the VW Il cars? It would be a perfect second car and much safer than a bike or motorcycle! I want my name on the list to buy one asap. Thanks.

  • eliz. holleman

    How does one sign up for one of the VW Il cars? It would be a perfect second car and much safer than a bike or motorcycle! I want my name on the list to buy one asap. Thanks.

  • MH

    I would buy that car. I’m frustrated with current cars, I think that they’re ugly, stuck “inside the box,” and desperately need to be improved. If they sold this car at an affordable price I could see not only myself but many other people driving this car or something like this.

    Think about what cars looked like in the 80’s or what computers looked like. No one then would have ever imagined cell phones or laptops. I think this car is sweet, and am interested in seeing the price.

  • MH

    I would buy that car. I’m frustrated with current cars, I think that they’re ugly, stuck “inside the box,” and desperately need to be improved. If they sold this car at an affordable price I could see not only myself but many other people driving this car or something like this.

    Think about what cars looked like in the 80’s or what computers looked like. No one then would have ever imagined cell phones or laptops. I think this car is sweet, and am interested in seeing the price.

  • jerry fischer

    and the people in this country keep getting screwed by the oil/car manufactures, I’m not buying a car until it gets 60 city 80 hwy and it looks like the Japanese/Germans and others will scope the market (AGAIN). I can aready hear U.S. car company’s crying, boo-hoo, they all need to go out of business, oh, one already has, and even with a new chance to start over they still continue to build crap cars with zero mpg. I just want to know where I can buy the new IPO and how much they will cost. $600.00 in Shaghai I’d spend that and buy 2 cars.

  • jerry fischer

    and the people in this country keep getting screwed by the oil/car manufactures, I’m not buying a car until it gets 60 city 80 hwy and it looks like the Japanese/Germans and others will scope the market (AGAIN). I can aready hear U.S. car company’s crying, boo-hoo, they all need to go out of business, oh, one already has, and even with a new chance to start over they still continue to build crap cars with zero mpg. I just want to know where I can buy the new IPO and how much they will cost. $600.00 in Shaghai I’d spend that and buy 2 cars.

  • Marisa

    I drive a Ford F150 so I would be one of the ones picking there things out of the grill of my truck if i didnt just go right over them and Jeff Dunham says that a prius is small wait till he gets a load of these i cant wait to hear what he has to say WAY TOO SMALL NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!!!

  • Marisa

    I drive a Ford F150 so I would be one of the ones picking there things out of the grill of my truck if i didnt just go right over them and Jeff Dunham says that a prius is small wait till he gets a load of these i cant wait to hear what he has to say WAY TOO SMALL NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!!!

  • Jean Pierre

    I would definitely buy one if the price is right.

    This is a perfect option for suburban commuters. This would generate a lot of savings due to the rising cost gasoline.

  • Jean Pierre

    I would definitely buy one if the price is right.

    This is a perfect option for suburban commuters. This would generate a lot of savings due to the rising cost gasoline.

  • Mickey Souza

    Well… It’s 2010… How much? If it is $26K I’m interested.

  • Mickey Souza

    Well… It’s 2010… How much? If it is $26K I’m interested.

    • http://Web Garth Shafer

      They are selling in Shanghai for 4000rmb. US won’t allow import. You need to buy in Canada (buy for about $US1800) or go for vacation in Shanghai.

  • http://Web parley faller

    Well 2010 is almost over, and I have not heard any word of this car yet. Plz if anyone could enlighten me on when its supposed to come out ill be listening. Living in Wyoming really does not help save on gas, soooooo contact me on this website or parleyfaller@yahoo.com and let me know. . . . plz?

  • http://Web Garth Scahefr

    Where can I buy in Florida, USA?

    • http://Web Mac McDougal

      It is now 2011. Chris, could you update us on this car? I would buy one in a heartbeat, even though I love my 2000 Insight and its aggregate MPG of 56.3 over 100,000 miles :-)

  • http://Web Art

    The bubble canopy will insure virtually unrestricted visibility. However, the greenouse effect will most certainly make it hot during the summer.

    Will this car offer air-conditioning?

  • http://Web Jack

    I’ll buy it. re. the Hummer: what about motorcycles, Minis, Smartcars and everything else that’s efficient? Take the ridiculous Hummers off the road as unreasonably dangerous to everyone else.

    • http://Web Cotton

      Jack, your an idiot!!!

  • http://Web Daniel Diefenderfer

    would love to get a dealer shiop on the one and two seaters VW’s p-lease contact me as soon as possible, I live in Wyoming

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