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	<title>Comments on: The Cleanest Cars on Earth?: Honda Civic GX and Other Natural Gas Vehicles (NGVs)</title>
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	<description>What is the future of fuel?  What&#039;s new?  What&#039;s next?  Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction.</description>
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		<title>By: Rand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong Mike,
My Son lives in Melbourn AU and drives a CNG car. CNG for cars is readily available at gas stations. Even Ford Australia is producing a line of CNG cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong Mike,<br />
My Son lives in Melbourn AU and drives a CNG car. CNG for cars is readily available at gas stations. Even Ford Australia is producing a line of CNG cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/05/05/the-cleanest-cars-on-earth-honda-civic-gx-and-other-natural-gas-vehicles-ngvs/#comment-122356</link>
		<dc:creator>Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Compressed natural gas is far safer than gasoline. It will not burn in it&#039;s compressed state and if it escapes as in the case of a gas line rupture it will not pool arount the leak. Rather it disipates into the atmousphere and it is not harmful to the environment like gas. It has no VOCs like gas and is a naturaly occuring gas from decomposing plant and animal waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Compressed natural gas is far safer than gasoline. It will not burn in it&#8217;s compressed state and if it escapes as in the case of a gas line rupture it will not pool arount the leak. Rather it disipates into the atmousphere and it is not harmful to the environment like gas. It has no VOCs like gas and is a naturaly occuring gas from decomposing plant and animal waste.</p>
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		<title>By: miles king</title>
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		<dc:creator>miles king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only when we put forth the will as citizens, and demand that our government get off our backs (i.e. EPA), drill baby drill can expect any thing better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only when we put forth the will as citizens, and demand that our government get off our backs (i.e. EPA), drill baby drill can expect any thing better!</p>
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		<title>By: Elmer</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/05/05/the-cleanest-cars-on-earth-honda-civic-gx-and-other-natural-gas-vehicles-ngvs/#comment-69148</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack first of all let me say just how unrefreshing it is to hear that &quot;Drill Baby Drill&quot; has been changed by Newt to &quot;Drill Here, Drill Now&quot;... yeech. 

I already hated Newt, and knew he was an idiot, but to see this being pushed at a time when drilling offshore is simply not needed due to the recent advances in onshore Shale Drilling like the Barnett Shale in Texas. 

There have also been numerous other recently announced shale deposits that covers most of the east coast there simply is very little reason to assume the dangers of drilling off shore are still needed.

try to read a little about natural gas and recent developments in the last decade before being drawn into a political debate by the likes of Newt Gingrich who very seldom has an intelligent thought, or one that benefits anyone outside his home state of Georgia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack first of all let me say just how unrefreshing it is to hear that &#8220;Drill Baby Drill&#8221; has been changed by Newt to &#8220;Drill Here, Drill Now&#8221;&#8230; yeech. </p>
<p>I already hated Newt, and knew he was an idiot, but to see this being pushed at a time when drilling offshore is simply not needed due to the recent advances in onshore Shale Drilling like the Barnett Shale in Texas. </p>
<p>There have also been numerous other recently announced shale deposits that covers most of the east coast there simply is very little reason to assume the dangers of drilling off shore are still needed.</p>
<p>try to read a little about natural gas and recent developments in the last decade before being drawn into a political debate by the likes of Newt Gingrich who very seldom has an intelligent thought, or one that benefits anyone outside his home state of Georgia.</p>
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		<title>By: Elmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure where you are getting this misinformation from, but the reason that natural gas prices spiral upward is those commodity traders &quot;whores&quot; on wall street who care very little about anything but profits, and when the prices of heating oil and other petroleum based products tend to go upward because of increased demand in the winter months the commodity traders can increase the cost of natural gas as well and make more money. Isn&#039;t the free market just wonderful?? LOL !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure where you are getting this misinformation from, but the reason that natural gas prices spiral upward is those commodity traders &#8220;whores&#8221; on wall street who care very little about anything but profits, and when the prices of heating oil and other petroleum based products tend to go upward because of increased demand in the winter months the commodity traders can increase the cost of natural gas as well and make more money. Isn&#8217;t the free market just wonderful?? LOL !!</p>
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		<title>By: Elmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chevy Volt can have it&#039;s Generator fueled from many different sources as this was brought up during the design program where it was mentioned the Gen-set would be powered by Diesel on the European model the Opel variant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chevy Volt can have it&#8217;s Generator fueled from many different sources as this was brought up during the design program where it was mentioned the Gen-set would be powered by Diesel on the European model the Opel variant.</p>
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		<title>By: Elmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clayton great response, but I need to expand upon your comment about natural Gas being a fossil fuel &quot;but can also be produced by the breakdown of plant material&quot; which by definition is what all fossil fuels are. 

I suspect the point you were trying to make is that unlike Oil which takes much longer that methane it can be produced from recent deposits of materials such as the methane produced by landfills that are years old instead of centuries old. The &quot;Landfill Gas&quot; has only recently been directed toward power production as in decades past it was simply burned or &quot;flared&quot; to the atmosphere without using the heat it produces for electricity generation. 

The point you make about the testing of the tanks does tend to imply that once that hurdle to alternative automobiles is accomplished very little change would need to be made to use Hydrogen as a fuel so this accomplishes the shorter term goal as well as it enables the infrastructure for the longer term goal of Hydrogen to be accomplished ahead of the actual supply issues being accomplished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clayton great response, but I need to expand upon your comment about natural Gas being a fossil fuel &#8220;but can also be produced by the breakdown of plant material&#8221; which by definition is what all fossil fuels are. </p>
<p>I suspect the point you were trying to make is that unlike Oil which takes much longer that methane it can be produced from recent deposits of materials such as the methane produced by landfills that are years old instead of centuries old. The &#8220;Landfill Gas&#8221; has only recently been directed toward power production as in decades past it was simply burned or &#8220;flared&#8221; to the atmosphere without using the heat it produces for electricity generation. </p>
<p>The point you make about the testing of the tanks does tend to imply that once that hurdle to alternative automobiles is accomplished very little change would need to be made to use Hydrogen as a fuel so this accomplishes the shorter term goal as well as it enables the infrastructure for the longer term goal of Hydrogen to be accomplished ahead of the actual supply issues being accomplished.</p>
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		<title>By: Elmer</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/05/05/the-cleanest-cars-on-earth-honda-civic-gx-and-other-natural-gas-vehicles-ngvs/#comment-69138</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe again you are being too simple in your evaluation&gt; i see where someone has already mentioned the inherent dirtiness of the production of Hydrogen, which is certainly true, but there is also the embedded cost and dirtiness of the transportation of the compressed Hydrogen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe again you are being too simple in your evaluation&gt; i see where someone has already mentioned the inherent dirtiness of the production of Hydrogen, which is certainly true, but there is also the embedded cost and dirtiness of the transportation of the compressed Hydrogen.</p>
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		<title>By: Elmer</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/05/05/the-cleanest-cars-on-earth-honda-civic-gx-and-other-natural-gas-vehicles-ngvs/#comment-69136</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe your simplistic approach to this subject fails to mention that the USA is nowhere close to having a Hydrogen infrastructure, but that a natural gas or methane infrastructure already exists.  

It should also be noted that longer term most places where Methane is used a Hydrogen fuel could be easily adapted for usage so any methane work is certainly not wasted, but merely a transitional fuel that is Domestically sourced until we can establish a Hydrogen Infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe your simplistic approach to this subject fails to mention that the USA is nowhere close to having a Hydrogen infrastructure, but that a natural gas or methane infrastructure already exists.  </p>
<p>It should also be noted that longer term most places where Methane is used a Hydrogen fuel could be easily adapted for usage so any methane work is certainly not wasted, but merely a transitional fuel that is Domestically sourced until we can establish a Hydrogen Infrastructure.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The writer of this is WRONG on the amounts of natural gas there is in the 
USA, we have the largest deposits of natural gas in the world here. Even if we
Were to make all cars on the road cng&#039;s it would take around 200 years to use 
What we have. And the beauty of it all is, earth making the stuff...... faster then we
Can burn it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The writer of this is WRONG on the amounts of natural gas there is in the<br />
USA, we have the largest deposits of natural gas in the world here. Even if we<br />
Were to make all cars on the road cng&#8217;s it would take around 200 years to use<br />
What we have. And the beauty of it all is, earth making the stuff&#8230;&#8230; faster then we<br />
Can burn it off.</p>
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