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Published on April 23rd, 2008 | by Clayton

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Affordable Electric Cars Coming to US in 2009

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>> Update: Think City: An Affordable Electric Car you Won’t See Until 2010

While we love hearing about sweet rides like the $100K Tesla Roadster, a functional and economical electric car made for the rest of us would be even cooler.

This could be it: the Th!nk City electric car, a four-seater with 110 mile range and top speed of 65 mph, priced under $25,000, made from 95% recyclable materials, and available in the U.S. in 2009.

The Th!nk City electric car is the product of Norwegian firm Th!nk Global, an auto manufacturer backed by Silicon Valley funding who has plans to assemble the cars in Southern California. In contrast to Tesla’s limited release of 300 cars per year, the Th!nk City is designed for mass production to the tune of 30-50,000 units within a few years. Th!nk already produces about 10,000 of these cars in Europe annually.

As an interesting aside, Ford Motor Company originally developed the vehicle, but (in a move they may soon regret), sold it to Norwegian investors in 2003. Why is it so cool? Because most of us don’t drive more than 40 miles in a day, and small electric cars are optimally suited for congested city driving. The benefits are pretty obvious, but if you’re worried about getting out for the weekend with the Th!nk City, don’t. Use it for city driving and keep that gas-guzzling SUV for forays into the mountains. You’ll still come out ahead.

Safety-wise, the Th!nk City meets the strict safety requirements of both Europe and the US as a highway-safe road car. ABS brakes, airbags, side-impact bars, and an advanced frame designed to absorb energy and distribute it away from the passenger’s compartment make it another blow to the myth that bigger cars are inherently safer.

If recent sales trends toward smaller vehicles are any indication (sales of Toyota Yaris up 70%), the Th!ink city could be very popular when released in the US.

Check out a few more pictures (below), and learn more from Th!nk’s website.

Addendum: Are plug-in electric vehicles a perfect answer to our transportation problems? I think you’ll see from the comments below that no, they aren’t. As one reader pointed out, dead batteries in the Th!nk City could take up to 10 hours to charge. That’s not only inconvenient, but putting 50,000 of these on the road could cause serious power draw (see Plug-In Hybrids Could Require 160 New Power Plants By 2030 (Or None At All and Plug-In Hybrids Use Over 17 Times More Water Than Regular Cars, Researchers Say). Since such a large portion of US power generation comes from coal, the increasing use of plug-in hybrid and electric cars will require serious consideration of other energy sources (for example, see How Solar Panels Could Power 90% of US Transportation).

My recommendation: Get yourself a plug-in hybrid as soon as they become available and then put solar panels on your roof through a community solar purchasing program.

Updates [1/28/2009]:

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In a past life, Clayton was a professional blogger and editor of Gas 2.0, Important Media’s blog covering the future of sustainable transportation. He was also the Managing Editor for GO Media, the predecessor to Important Media.



  • Kaj

    Nice to see an affordable electric car that’s also made of recycled components. If they sell this in Canada I WILL buy it.

  • Kaj

    Nice to see an affordable electric car that’s also made of recycled components. If they sell this in Canada I WILL buy it.

  • Uncle B

    The electric car’s time has come. Desert sourced solar electricity is here, Even if the oil barons drop the price to $50 a barrel, we will not trust them again. They have hi-jacked the last prosperity build up of the USA. The jig is up! We will rid ourselves of this monopolistic parasitic business practice. Technology has come to our rescue, the cancerous benzine molecule will soon be a thing of the past. We can build electric cars that fill all needs, from economy models to 600 horsepower four motor models with 0 to 100 speeds that exceed any fossil fueled machine. We are the new paradigm!

  • Uncle B

    The electric car’s time has come. Desert sourced solar electricity is here, Even if the oil barons drop the price to $50 a barrel, we will not trust them again. They have hi-jacked the last prosperity build up of the USA. The jig is up! We will rid ourselves of this monopolistic parasitic business practice. Technology has come to our rescue, the cancerous benzine molecule will soon be a thing of the past. We can build electric cars that fill all needs, from economy models to 600 horsepower four motor models with 0 to 100 speeds that exceed any fossil fueled machine. We are the new paradigm!

  • http://www.greensmithconsulting.com Paul Smith

    Encouraging! Now if only they could create long distance friendly + affordable vehicle, that would be a slam dunk. Still, good to see this.

  • http://www.greensmithconsulting.com Paul Smith

    Encouraging! Now if only they could create long distance friendly + affordable vehicle, that would be a slam dunk. Still, good to see this.

  • Douglas

    What is “top”speed of these electric cars ???

  • Douglas

    What is “top”speed of these electric cars ???

  • Douglas

    I found out, it’s 65 MPH .

  • Douglas

    I found out, it’s 65 MPH .

  • Dean

    If they could tack a solar panel on the roof to charge it while I’m at work–that would be cool.

  • Dean

    If they could tack a solar panel on the roof to charge it while I’m at work–that would be cool.

  • Frank

    I’m encouraged, but let’s face it.

    Yes we drive under 40 miles on a typical day, but an ordinary car gives us the ability to drive much farther when we need to. My daily commute may be short, but when I need to drive 200 or even 500 miles away to another city, I can just do it with no preparation.

    It’s hard to imagine spending $25,000 on a car that lacks this ability. You would need both the electric car and a regular car for long trips. Few people can afford to spend $25 grand on a second car – those who can aren’t worrying about gas prices.

    What we need is a cheap alternative to cars for our daily commutes so we can keep our regular cars and use them less frequently. Personally, I just use a bicycle. Why not – it’s dirt cheap, uses zero fuel, and provides me with exercise to boot. I still have a small car that I use once in a while – if it rains, or when I need to pick up something too big to carry on a bike. I understand that a bicycle is not practical for everyone, but this is the model we should be shooting for, rather than trying to replace the car with an expensive electric alternative that can never really do the same job.

    Frank

  • Frank

    I’m encouraged, but let’s face it.

    Yes we drive under 40 miles on a typical day, but an ordinary car gives us the ability to drive much farther when we need to. My daily commute may be short, but when I need to drive 200 or even 500 miles away to another city, I can just do it with no preparation.

    It’s hard to imagine spending $25,000 on a car that lacks this ability. You would need both the electric car and a regular car for long trips. Few people can afford to spend $25 grand on a second car – those who can aren’t worrying about gas prices.

    What we need is a cheap alternative to cars for our daily commutes so we can keep our regular cars and use them less frequently. Personally, I just use a bicycle. Why not – it’s dirt cheap, uses zero fuel, and provides me with exercise to boot. I still have a small car that I use once in a while – if it rains, or when I need to pick up something too big to carry on a bike. I understand that a bicycle is not practical for everyone, but this is the model we should be shooting for, rather than trying to replace the car with an expensive electric alternative that can never really do the same job.

    Frank

  • WTF

    Why do alternative fuel cars that are affordable always look so gay? I mean really the thing looks like its made of red lego blocks. Lets make something that doesn’t scream QUEER and maybe people will buy it.

  • WTF

    Why do alternative fuel cars that are affordable always look so gay? I mean really the thing looks like its made of red lego blocks. Lets make something that doesn’t scream QUEER and maybe people will buy it.

  • http://www.songboom.com Rob

    It’s about time! I’d buy one of these in a minute.

  • http://www.songboom.com Rob

    It’s about time! I’d buy one of these in a minute.

  • angry about wasting our fuel

    Why don’t you american go on, driving your 5-7 Liter SUV cars? Now every american snivels about alternative fuels when gasoline is pricy. What have you done until now? I tell you: wasting oil with such cars, that oil which belongs to the mankind and not to the american nation! This is already an stereotype about americans here in Europe. Amerivans in their big-engine-SUVs .

    Where is the problem driving a 1.4 or 1.6 Liter car?

    You americans woke at least up but unfortunately a little bit late. I drive with a full gastank (60L=16 Gallons) about 480 miles and i have not to buy an electric car. BUY CARS WITH SMALLER ENGINES!

    (small is not 2 or 3 Liter but rather 1.2 to 1.6 Liter. Such an engine is more then enough to commute every day to work.

  • angry about wasting our fuel

    Why don’t you american go on, driving your 5-7 Liter SUV cars? Now every american snivels about alternative fuels when gasoline is pricy. What have you done until now? I tell you: wasting oil with such cars, that oil which belongs to the mankind and not to the american nation! This is already an stereotype about americans here in Europe. Amerivans in their big-engine-SUVs .

    Where is the problem driving a 1.4 or 1.6 Liter car?

    You americans woke at least up but unfortunately a little bit late. I drive with a full gastank (60L=16 Gallons) about 480 miles and i have not to buy an electric car. BUY CARS WITH SMALLER ENGINES!

    (small is not 2 or 3 Liter but rather 1.2 to 1.6 Liter. Such an engine is more then enough to commute every day to work.

    • http://Web Paul

      All of you Europeans would be speaking German if it wasn’t for us Americans. But how quickly you judgmental people forget.Not all Americans drive big cars and trucks. My engine is a 1.8 liter. You dip.

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  • Jeroen

    I agree with WTF and guess I will wait for the Think OX that looks much more ‘adult’ or ‘serious’…

  • Jeroen

    I agree with WTF and guess I will wait for the Think OX that looks much more ‘adult’ or ‘serious’…

  • Nick

    I agree with poster above me, gay might not be the correct word though. It certainly does look stupid. I cannot understand why they don’t make these cars more stylish.

  • Nick

    I agree with poster above me, gay might not be the correct word though. It certainly does look stupid. I cannot understand why they don’t make these cars more stylish.

  • Tom

    Frank,

    It may not be for you but it would be great for me. Most of the people I work with are all two car households. I could see 90% being able to use a car like this as their second car. Its perfect for the “soccer mom” who runs a few errands, picks the kids up, etc. but is home a lot of the day where the car could charge between short trips.

    There are great car sharing programs available in most cities now so if you had this car, but needed to run out of town for the weekend, there is one available.

    I got rid of my car two months ago and joined one of these programs. It works great, they have two Prius’ parked within a mile of my house. Just open your mind and think about the possibilities!

  • Tom

    Frank,

    It may not be for you but it would be great for me. Most of the people I work with are all two car households. I could see 90% being able to use a car like this as their second car. Its perfect for the “soccer mom” who runs a few errands, picks the kids up, etc. but is home a lot of the day where the car could charge between short trips.

    There are great car sharing programs available in most cities now so if you had this car, but needed to run out of town for the weekend, there is one available.

    I got rid of my car two months ago and joined one of these programs. It works great, they have two Prius’ parked within a mile of my house. Just open your mind and think about the possibilities!

  • Tom

    Frank,

    It may not be for you but it would be great for me. Most of the people I work with are all two car households. I could see 90% being able to use a car like this as their second car. Its perfect for the “soccer mom” who runs a few errands, picks the kids up, etc. but is home a lot of the day where the car could charge between short trips.

    There are great car sharing programs available in most cities now so if you had this car, but needed to run out of town for the weekend, there is one available.

    I got rid of my car two months ago and joined one of these programs. It works great, they have two Prius’ parked within a mile of my house. Just open your mind and think about the possibilities!

  • AndyM

    Frank,

    You make a good point if you are a single person and your choice is between owning one car or two. However, for a family with 2+ vehicles, I see no reason that at least one of them can’t have a fairly short range.

    What I wish is that this country had a better passenger train system. I live in Columbia, SC, but Amtrak won’t even take me to Atlanta unless I want to go several hundred miles out of the way. Apparently, trains out of this city can’t go east or west.

  • AndyM

    Frank,

    You make a good point if you are a single person and your choice is between owning one car or two. However, for a family with 2+ vehicles, I see no reason that at least one of them can’t have a fairly short range.

    What I wish is that this country had a better passenger train system. I live in Columbia, SC, but Amtrak won’t even take me to Atlanta unless I want to go several hundred miles out of the way. Apparently, trains out of this city can’t go east or west.

  • AndyM

    Frank,

    You make a good point if you are a single person and your choice is between owning one car or two. However, for a family with 2+ vehicles, I see no reason that at least one of them can’t have a fairly short range.

    What I wish is that this country had a better passenger train system. I live in Columbia, SC, but Amtrak won’t even take me to Atlanta unless I want to go several hundred miles out of the way. Apparently, trains out of this city can’t go east or west.

  • http://ecoworldly.com Gavin Hudson

    I wonder how long they take to charge. On some of the newer batteries, I’ve seen really impressive charge times of 10 minutes. A 10 minute charge time, of course, means that you could drive the car anywhere you’d want to go without worrying about how far you can go on one charge.

  • http://ecoworldly.com Gavin Hudson

    I wonder how long they take to charge. On some of the newer batteries, I’ve seen really impressive charge times of 10 minutes. A 10 minute charge time, of course, means that you could drive the car anywhere you’d want to go without worrying about how far you can go on one charge.

  • http://ecoworldly.com Gavin Hudson

    I wonder how long they take to charge. On some of the newer batteries, I’ve seen really impressive charge times of 10 minutes. A 10 minute charge time, of course, means that you could drive the car anywhere you’d want to go without worrying about how far you can go on one charge.

  • Super Mike

    I want mine to look like a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited X and be a gas/electric hybrid just in case the electricity runs out. Why can’t they stick to something like that? Heck, the gas engine could be designed such that it is tiny and pathetic and can only get a top speed of 80mph — just something to get me the last 5 miles home.

  • Super Mike

    I want mine to look like a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited X and be a gas/electric hybrid just in case the electricity runs out. Why can’t they stick to something like that? Heck, the gas engine could be designed such that it is tiny and pathetic and can only get a top speed of 80mph — just something to get me the last 5 miles home.

  • your face

    bwhahahahahha that thing is funny lookin’. i just want to punt it.

  • your face

    bwhahahahahha that thing is funny lookin’. i just want to punt it.

  • The Bigger The Better

    American’s have bigger roads…bigger roads need bigger cars. Myself, I drive a Chevy Cavalier…not big at all and it gets decent gas mileage. But the roads here need a bigger car so we don’t get lost. You said you’re from Europe…France for example, is about the size of the state of Texas here. So, the US is quite a bit bigger. We do things big…it’s how we are.

    Now don’t get em wrong, I’m kinda excited about an electric car, but America is about the freedom to do what you want. So if I want to drive a Hummer, I damn sure will, even if it gets 3.5 mpg….

  • The Bigger The Better

    American’s have bigger roads…bigger roads need bigger cars. Myself, I drive a Chevy Cavalier…not big at all and it gets decent gas mileage. But the roads here need a bigger car so we don’t get lost. You said you’re from Europe…France for example, is about the size of the state of Texas here. So, the US is quite a bit bigger. We do things big…it’s how we are.

    Now don’t get em wrong, I’m kinda excited about an electric car, but America is about the freedom to do what you want. So if I want to drive a Hummer, I damn sure will, even if it gets 3.5 mpg….

  • Jag

    Why not just buy a scooter?

    And you (Yankee, I presume) who brags about your tiny engine, what do you do when you need to transport your wife, three kids, and two dogs?

  • Jag

    Why not just buy a scooter?

    And you (Yankee, I presume) who brags about your tiny engine, what do you do when you need to transport your wife, three kids, and two dogs?

  • Adam

    aww-shucks. Just when I was thinking I’d never need a greater salary than non-profit provides, a car that actually seems worth making more money to get! 25k is great, and definitely managable… if only 10k more a year was made. Still smiling, just begun living the adult life, rumor is personal cars are an expectation.

  • Adam

    aww-shucks. Just when I was thinking I’d never need a greater salary than non-profit provides, a car that actually seems worth making more money to get! 25k is great, and definitely managable… if only 10k more a year was made. Still smiling, just begun living the adult life, rumor is personal cars are an expectation.

  • Adam

    aww-shucks. Just when I was thinking I’d never need a greater salary than non-profit provides, a car that actually seems worth making more money to get! 25k is great, and definitely managable… if only 10k more a year was made. Still smiling, just begun living the adult life, rumor is personal cars are an expectation.

  • Alnasi

    Looks good. I wonder who’s going to get there first? Think City, or Zenn Car. Zenn has a running partnership with a firm working on ultracapacitors over batteries. I cannot clain to understand the physics, especially since I thought that capacitors discharged their stored charge all at once, and these apparantly do not, but if it flies it is promising. 80 MPH, 200 miles to a charge, US freeway compliant, and recharged in 10 minutes, 100,000 charge lifecycle, the capacitor itself full recyclable vs. LiIon batteries, which are not.

    I’m in the market, and interested to see who gets there first.

  • Alnasi

    Looks good. I wonder who’s going to get there first? Think City, or Zenn Car. Zenn has a running partnership with a firm working on ultracapacitors over batteries. I cannot clain to understand the physics, especially since I thought that capacitors discharged their stored charge all at once, and these apparantly do not, but if it flies it is promising. 80 MPH, 200 miles to a charge, US freeway compliant, and recharged in 10 minutes, 100,000 charge lifecycle, the capacitor itself full recyclable vs. LiIon batteries, which are not.

    I’m in the market, and interested to see who gets there first.

  • Nathan

    How is $25,000 affordable? This car is tiny and ugly. The prius is like $26,000, gets better mpg and has a way better design.

    Call me when when a $12,000 electric shows up.

  • Nathan

    How is $25,000 affordable? This car is tiny and ugly. The prius is like $26,000, gets better mpg and has a way better design.

    Call me when when a $12,000 electric shows up.

  • Alnasi

    Looks good. I wonder who’s going to get there first? Think City, or Zenn Car. Zenn has a running partnership with a firm working on ultracapacitors over batteries. I cannot clain to understand the physics, especially since I thought that capacitors discharged their stored charge all at once, and these apparantly do not, but if it flies it is promising. 80 MPH, 200 miles to a charge, US freeway compliant, and recharged in 10 minutes, 100,000 charge lifecycle, the capacitor itself full recyclable vs. LiIon batteries, which are not.

    I’m in the market, and interested to see who gets there first.

  • Nathan

    How is $25,000 affordable? This car is tiny and ugly. The prius is like $26,000, gets better mpg and has a way better design.

    Call me when when a $12,000 electric shows up.

  • John

    How about…

    Buy this car and RENT a gasoline vehicle if you ever need one.

  • John

    How about…

    Buy this car and RENT a gasoline vehicle if you ever need one.

  • abe

    Hey “angry”, I drive a 15 year old Saturn, and I’m American. So shove your attitude up your arse. Not everyone over here drives an SUV, you tard.

  • abe

    Hey “angry”, I drive a 15 year old Saturn, and I’m American. So shove your attitude up your arse. Not everyone over here drives an SUV, you tard.

  • abe

    Hey “angry”, I drive a 15 year old Saturn, and I’m American. So shove your attitude up your arse. Not everyone over here drives an SUV, you tard.

  • Mark

    angry about wasting our fuel:

    You are a poptart. Not everyone in the US drive tanks. I get over 35MHG in my 06 GTI, which has a 2.0L.

  • Mark

    angry about wasting our fuel:

    You are a poptart. Not everyone in the US drive tanks. I get over 35MHG in my 06 GTI, which has a 2.0L.

  • asspennies

    Sweet! I’m still going to happily drive my 14 MPG Range Rover and run the hot water a half hour before I get in the shower, but since I’ve been selling so much Green Consulting work this year, I’ll have an alternative vehicle in which I can take clients to lunch. It gets old telling people my $250 sustainable shirt is made of bamboo and explaining my $30 reusable steel water bottle. One look at this car and they’ll know for sure I’m the guy that can craft and market a new clean image for them.

  • asspennies

    Sweet! I’m still going to happily drive my 14 MPG Range Rover and run the hot water a half hour before I get in the shower, but since I’ve been selling so much Green Consulting work this year, I’ll have an alternative vehicle in which I can take clients to lunch. It gets old telling people my $250 sustainable shirt is made of bamboo and explaining my $30 reusable steel water bottle. One look at this car and they’ll know for sure I’m the guy that can craft and market a new clean image for them.

  • http://www.nuvera.com/blog Danielle Andre

    Am I missing something…I live in an apartment and usually park four blocks away…where do I recharge??

  • http://www.nuvera.com/blog Danielle Andre

    Am I missing something…I live in an apartment and usually park four blocks away…where do I recharge??

  • John B.

    Do these cars have heat and air conditioning?

  • John B.

    Do these cars have heat and air conditioning?

  • John B.

    Do these cars have heat and air conditioning?

  • What about maintenance

    The concept is good. The cause is good too. Its an errand car. What do you expect an errand car to do? Do small short spurts of travel errand running. I can see people using it, but for its not for me. I wouldn’t argue the fact that it is usable. Though one big question comes to mind. Well actually a few. What about the maintenance? How much would it cost me over the time period to keep maintenance for the car over what I already have? How difficult is the maintenance from the easiest most practical things we do now with the gas guzzlers? How expensive would it be for the major parts of the car to break down? Are there special parts for the car that is not conviently available, if so what is it, where can i find it, and of course how much? Would there be any shops that can maintenance my car? See personally I see this car great for being friendly by not using gas directly to the engine. It may be eco-friendly to your wallet pumping gas for your trips. Can it be also eco-friendly to your wallet for keeping the car in shape? I also prefer to do my own maintenance given the fact that I may have used my own time and effort of doing, but saving more money by not having to spend that money for labor. Get me a six pack of beer and I’m good to go.

  • http://www.nerys.com/ Nerys

    NO what we need is a PROPER electric car. If we would take that patent from Chevron under $10k EV’s would be QUITE practical as a second car. I spend $4500 a year on gasoline (MORE now that was at $2.69 a gallon) An electric car with JUST a 75 mile range (I drive 54 miles each way and charging at work is NOT a problem) would be more than enough. I would save $3800, $4000 A YEAR in gasoline! a PROPER under $10k EV would be FREE in 3 years time! I could just put my “gas money” into the car payment and it would not cost me a DIME a month over what I am paying now.

    $25k is NOT affordable. Thats VERY VERY expensive. ($100k for the tesla is NOT expensive that what we call Ludicrous ie a fairy tale)

    If we could force chevron somehow to release the battery patent I could CONVERT MY MINIVAN into a 200mile range EV for under $15k !!

  • What about maintenance

    The concept is good. The cause is good too. Its an errand car. What do you expect an errand car to do? Do small short spurts of travel errand running. I can see people using it, but for its not for me. I wouldn’t argue the fact that it is usable. Though one big question comes to mind. Well actually a few. What about the maintenance? How much would it cost me over the time period to keep maintenance for the car over what I already have? How difficult is the maintenance from the easiest most practical things we do now with the gas guzzlers? How expensive would it be for the major parts of the car to break down? Are there special parts for the car that is not conviently available, if so what is it, where can i find it, and of course how much? Would there be any shops that can maintenance my car? See personally I see this car great for being friendly by not using gas directly to the engine. It may be eco-friendly to your wallet pumping gas for your trips. Can it be also eco-friendly to your wallet for keeping the car in shape? I also prefer to do my own maintenance given the fact that I may have used my own time and effort of doing, but saving more money by not having to spend that money for labor. Get me a six pack of beer and I’m good to go.

  • http://www.nerys.com/ Nerys

    NO what we need is a PROPER electric car. If we would take that patent from Chevron under $10k EV’s would be QUITE practical as a second car. I spend $4500 a year on gasoline (MORE now that was at $2.69 a gallon) An electric car with JUST a 75 mile range (I drive 54 miles each way and charging at work is NOT a problem) would be more than enough. I would save $3800, $4000 A YEAR in gasoline! a PROPER under $10k EV would be FREE in 3 years time! I could just put my “gas money” into the car payment and it would not cost me a DIME a month over what I am paying now.

    $25k is NOT affordable. Thats VERY VERY expensive. ($100k for the tesla is NOT expensive that what we call Ludicrous ie a fairy tale)

    If we could force chevron somehow to release the battery patent I could CONVERT MY MINIVAN into a 200mile range EV for under $15k !!

  • Us Americans

    I response to the wasting gas comment… There isn’t a gas shortage! In fact there are surpluses! The problem causing the high prices is’nt supply, it’s greed. Oil is being used as a cushion for people suffering from the failing economy. It’s being traded and re-traded to a point where, due to all of the hands in the pot, the price of oil goes through the roof. This, of course, doesn’t address the problem of pollution produced by these larger engines. But to complain about wasting the world’s oil is totally missing the point.

  • Us Americans

    I response to the wasting gas comment… There isn’t a gas shortage! In fact there are surpluses! The problem causing the high prices is’nt supply, it’s greed. Oil is being used as a cushion for people suffering from the failing economy. It’s being traded and re-traded to a point where, due to all of the hands in the pot, the price of oil goes through the roof. This, of course, doesn’t address the problem of pollution produced by these larger engines. But to complain about wasting the world’s oil is totally missing the point.

  • http://sportsunleashed.wordpress.com/ Chris

    As a high schooler, I am unable to afford a car, but I would love the idea of a small electric vehicle that could take me to work, school, and to friend’s houses in town. I don’t take any roadtrips, it seems senseless to use so much gas to travel short distances…

    Before alternative fuel cars that are cheap and have extremely high ranges become a reality, it would make a lot of sense for a family to own commuter cars such as this one for going to work or running to the store and then having a gasoline powered vehicle to go on long trips, at least in this transition period.

  • http://sportsunleashed.wordpress.com/ Chris

    As a high schooler, I am unable to afford a car, but I would love the idea of a small electric vehicle that could take me to work, school, and to friend’s houses in town. I don’t take any roadtrips, it seems senseless to use so much gas to travel short distances…

    Before alternative fuel cars that are cheap and have extremely high ranges become a reality, it would make a lot of sense for a family to own commuter cars such as this one for going to work or running to the store and then having a gasoline powered vehicle to go on long trips, at least in this transition period.

  • Brian

    Frank: Glad you’re riding a bike when you can, but your thinking about needing to have a car that does it all is exactly the “thinking inside the box” that we have to break out of. It will happen, in time. But the best we can affordably accomplish right now is something like this. If it forces you and me to plan ahead, then it will succeed. This is exactly how car co-ops succeed: you spend a few minutes planning when and where you need to go and what you need to do, and then you ONLY do those things. You can always make other plans (just like you do when riding your bike), but we must get away from our I-must-own-at-least-one-of-everything mentality, and start “Think”ing about what’s best.

    WTF: You don’t like it? You don’t have to buy it. You don’t need to be making disparaging remarks about people.

  • Brian

    Frank: Glad you’re riding a bike when you can, but your thinking about needing to have a car that does it all is exactly the “thinking inside the box” that we have to break out of. It will happen, in time. But the best we can affordably accomplish right now is something like this. If it forces you and me to plan ahead, then it will succeed. This is exactly how car co-ops succeed: you spend a few minutes planning when and where you need to go and what you need to do, and then you ONLY do those things. You can always make other plans (just like you do when riding your bike), but we must get away from our I-must-own-at-least-one-of-everything mentality, and start “Think”ing about what’s best.

    WTF: You don’t like it? You don’t have to buy it. You don’t need to be making disparaging remarks about people.

  • Joshua Welch

    I think that the idea is to move away from engines all together, I do not think that buying 1.6 liter engines is the answer. Think about being able to just plug your car in at night, and there being 5 maybe 6 huge energy stations in the US. Those stations would be “fueling” everything.

    Then if whatever source they are using for energy runs up, they can switch and move on. We as consumers would effectively rid ourselves of the energy crisis. I am all for something that uses No Gas. I see 110 miles as a temporary limitation. It will be where the next year they will boast 500 miles and then 1000 miles. Limitations in technology are just the next generations marketing terms.

  • Joshua Welch

    I think that the idea is to move away from engines all together, I do not think that buying 1.6 liter engines is the answer. Think about being able to just plug your car in at night, and there being 5 maybe 6 huge energy stations in the US. Those stations would be “fueling” everything.

    Then if whatever source they are using for energy runs up, they can switch and move on. We as consumers would effectively rid ourselves of the energy crisis. I am all for something that uses No Gas. I see 110 miles as a temporary limitation. It will be where the next year they will boast 500 miles and then 1000 miles. Limitations in technology are just the next generations marketing terms.

  • Paul

    Frank make a comment that might ring true with many people:

    “Yes we drive under 40 miles on a typical day, but an ordinary car gives us the ability to drive much farther when we need to”

    There are many large urban centres throughout North America where a city runabout would be a Godsend. I am in both categories; I would _love_ such a car to drive to work (70km round trip daily), but want greater range on the weekend. An option may be for my family to have two cars (1 gas auto) and use them efficiently. Or, I could rent a car on the weekends that I’m going out of town.

    A long-range electric vehicle would be great. However, this is a good start, and it solves a serious problem. Is it a panacea? Not by a long shot.

    Scores of young urbanites are on scooters for convenience and gas savings (also to be hip, but I’m trying to make a point). In towns such as Rome, you can see rows upon rows of scooters and small cars.

    It’s time for North America to come to grips with the cost of everyone having a long-range gas guzzler. As these cars increase in numbers, opportunity will pop up around it. I can see an increase in ‘to your door’ delivery of rental cars for convenience. I can see ‘quick charge’ highway stops to aid in range extension. It’s not a great solution, but it is workable.

    I am not a tree-hugger by any means; I just see the value of a concept that is long overdue; an urban car for an urban population. If you live in the country, I might recommend against buying such a car, since it might not work in your life. Much like I would recommend against buying a scooter for the same reason. It’s just great to have the option.

  • Paul

    Frank make a comment that might ring true with many people:

    “Yes we drive under 40 miles on a typical day, but an ordinary car gives us the ability to drive much farther when we need to”

    There are many large urban centres throughout North America where a city runabout would be a Godsend. I am in both categories; I would _love_ such a car to drive to work (70km round trip daily), but want greater range on the weekend. An option may be for my family to have two cars (1 gas auto) and use them efficiently. Or, I could rent a car on the weekends that I’m going out of town.

    A long-range electric vehicle would be great. However, this is a good start, and it solves a serious problem. Is it a panacea? Not by a long shot.

    Scores of young urbanites are on scooters for convenience and gas savings (also to be hip, but I’m trying to make a point). In towns such as Rome, you can see rows upon rows of scooters and small cars.

    It’s time for North America to come to grips with the cost of everyone having a long-range gas guzzler. As these cars increase in numbers, opportunity will pop up around it. I can see an increase in ‘to your door’ delivery of rental cars for convenience. I can see ‘quick charge’ highway stops to aid in range extension. It’s not a great solution, but it is workable.

    I am not a tree-hugger by any means; I just see the value of a concept that is long overdue; an urban car for an urban population. If you live in the country, I might recommend against buying such a car, since it might not work in your life. Much like I would recommend against buying a scooter for the same reason. It’s just great to have the option.

  • Paul

    Frank make a comment that might ring true with many people:

    “Yes we drive under 40 miles on a typical day, but an ordinary car gives us the ability to drive much farther when we need to”

    There are many large urban centres throughout North America where a city runabout would be a Godsend. I am in both categories; I would _love_ such a car to drive to work (70km round trip daily), but want greater range on the weekend. An option may be for my family to have two cars (1 gas auto) and use them efficiently. Or, I could rent a car on the weekends that I’m going out of town.

    A long-range electric vehicle would be great. However, this is a good start, and it solves a serious problem. Is it a panacea? Not by a long shot.

    Scores of young urbanites are on scooters for convenience and gas savings (also to be hip, but I’m trying to make a point). In towns such as Rome, you can see rows upon rows of scooters and small cars.

    It’s time for North America to come to grips with the cost of everyone having a long-range gas guzzler. As these cars increase in numbers, opportunity will pop up around it. I can see an increase in ‘to your door’ delivery of rental cars for convenience. I can see ‘quick charge’ highway stops to aid in range extension. It’s not a great solution, but it is workable.

    I am not a tree-hugger by any means; I just see the value of a concept that is long overdue; an urban car for an urban population. If you live in the country, I might recommend against buying such a car, since it might not work in your life. Much like I would recommend against buying a scooter for the same reason. It’s just great to have the option.

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  • http://www.uteachmusic.com ins0mniak

    There were modifications to the EV1 (i think) that exceeded the 250 mile limit and allowed well above 65mph, and that was 10 years ago. BRING IT ON!

  • http://www.uteachmusic.com ins0mniak

    There were modifications to the EV1 (i think) that exceeded the 250 mile limit and allowed well above 65mph, and that was 10 years ago. BRING IT ON!

  • http://www.geekpoint.com Chainblade

    to: angry about wasting our fuel – there is a place for larger vehicles. I’m 6’6″ and 270 pounds. You find me a 1.5 litre car that I will fit comfortably in. Hell, most cars, I do not fit comfortably in, unless it’s for a very short amount of time. I have an SUV. I have one so my neck and back aren’t as hurt all the time and so i can actually stretch my legs out of I need too so my leg doesn’t lock up or something. If I was a smaller man, then yes, I would gladly get a small car. But unfortunately, that is not really an option.

    I agree with the looks on these things. why do they hae to be so ugly? can’t they make them look like normal cars? i just don’t get it. unfortunately, a lot of us americans want something that is going to look nice. if i’m spending $25,000 on a car (which is NOT affordable by the way), then I better LOVE everything about it. Why can’t they make sports cars that have electric engines? why can’t they make SUV’s with electric engines. I’d buy an electric Explorer in a second. problem is, even with a gasoline engine, they only get 200 miles until it needs to be filled up again. if this little car will only go 100 miles before it needs to be charged again, obvioulsy a bigger vehicle will go less. I only drive about 10 miles a day so I could handle it but what if I need to drive someplace longer?

  • http://www.geekpoint.com Chainblade

    to: angry about wasting our fuel – there is a place for larger vehicles. I’m 6’6″ and 270 pounds. You find me a 1.5 litre car that I will fit comfortably in. Hell, most cars, I do not fit comfortably in, unless it’s for a very short amount of time. I have an SUV. I have one so my neck and back aren’t as hurt all the time and so i can actually stretch my legs out of I need too so my leg doesn’t lock up or something. If I was a smaller man, then yes, I would gladly get a small car. But unfortunately, that is not really an option.

    I agree with the looks on these things. why do they hae to be so ugly? can’t they make them look like normal cars? i just don’t get it. unfortunately, a lot of us americans want something that is going to look nice. if i’m spending $25,000 on a car (which is NOT affordable by the way), then I better LOVE everything about it. Why can’t they make sports cars that have electric engines? why can’t they make SUV’s with electric engines. I’d buy an electric Explorer in a second. problem is, even with a gasoline engine, they only get 200 miles until it needs to be filled up again. if this little car will only go 100 miles before it needs to be charged again, obvioulsy a bigger vehicle will go less. I only drive about 10 miles a day so I could handle it but what if I need to drive someplace longer?

  • http://www.geekpoint.com Chainblade

    to: angry about wasting our fuel – there is a place for larger vehicles. I’m 6’6″ and 270 pounds. You find me a 1.5 litre car that I will fit comfortably in. Hell, most cars, I do not fit comfortably in, unless it’s for a very short amount of time. I have an SUV. I have one so my neck and back aren’t as hurt all the time and so i can actually stretch my legs out of I need too so my leg doesn’t lock up or something. If I was a smaller man, then yes, I would gladly get a small car. But unfortunately, that is not really an option.

    I agree with the looks on these things. why do they hae to be so ugly? can’t they make them look like normal cars? i just don’t get it. unfortunately, a lot of us americans want something that is going to look nice. if i’m spending $25,000 on a car (which is NOT affordable by the way), then I better LOVE everything about it. Why can’t they make sports cars that have electric engines? why can’t they make SUV’s with electric engines. I’d buy an electric Explorer in a second. problem is, even with a gasoline engine, they only get 200 miles until it needs to be filled up again. if this little car will only go 100 miles before it needs to be charged again, obvioulsy a bigger vehicle will go less. I only drive about 10 miles a day so I could handle it but what if I need to drive someplace longer?

  • bpm2000

    I agree – $25,000 is very spendy for what you are getting here. A “solution” car like this needs to be MUCH cheaper if it is going to make any sort of impact. I’ve been a pedestrian/mass transit person my whole life (by choice) but recently have been thinking about a vehicle.

    And for mr.angry, if you’re going to generalize and bash a whole country/public, at least try to sound halfway intelligent when doing so. Jesus.

  • bpm2000

    I agree – $25,000 is very spendy for what you are getting here. A “solution” car like this needs to be MUCH cheaper if it is going to make any sort of impact. I’ve been a pedestrian/mass transit person my whole life (by choice) but recently have been thinking about a vehicle.

    And for mr.angry, if you’re going to generalize and bash a whole country/public, at least try to sound halfway intelligent when doing so. Jesus.

  • bpm2000

    I agree – $25,000 is very spendy for what you are getting here. A “solution” car like this needs to be MUCH cheaper if it is going to make any sort of impact. I’ve been a pedestrian/mass transit person my whole life (by choice) but recently have been thinking about a vehicle.

    And for mr.angry, if you’re going to generalize and bash a whole country/public, at least try to sound halfway intelligent when doing so. Jesus.

  • http://www.practice-questions.com CFA Level 1

    They could have made the car a bit more stylish

  • http://www.practice-questions.com CFA Level 1

    They could have made the car a bit more stylish

  • Walt Bland

    Sign me up! Whether or not the thing looks “gay”…I’ve just about had my fill of beasts that guzzle my wallet way.

  • Walt Bland

    Sign me up! Whether or not the thing looks “gay”…I’ve just about had my fill of beasts that guzzle my wallet way.

  • Walt Bland

    Sign me up! Whether or not the thing looks “gay”…I’ve just about had my fill of beasts that guzzle my wallet way.

  • taoofmac

    I’d love to “go electric” as soon as there is some honest RANGE to them. While the Tesla really rings my chimes, a max range of 220 miles is nothing to write home about for an old road warrior like me, who will drive 600, 850, even 1000 miles in a day.

    If I can get some good wind-in-the-hair performance, a 900 mile range, and 6 hours recharge time (while I’m snoozing), you’ve got me.

  • taoofmac

    I’d love to “go electric” as soon as there is some honest RANGE to them. While the Tesla really rings my chimes, a max range of 220 miles is nothing to write home about for an old road warrior like me, who will drive 600, 850, even 1000 miles in a day.

    If I can get some good wind-in-the-hair performance, a 900 mile range, and 6 hours recharge time (while I’m snoozing), you’ve got me.

  • interesting

    This is very cool although I think the mileage sucks for such a price. Poor Ford, they can’t get anything right.

    Just a f.y.i., look into the Chevy Volt that is coming out.

  • interesting

    This is very cool although I think the mileage sucks for such a price. Poor Ford, they can’t get anything right.

    Just a f.y.i., look into the Chevy Volt that is coming out.

  • Goose

    You’ve got your Tesla production numbers wrong.

    It’s more like 2,000 per year when they’re fully up and running. That 300 number is probably this year’s number, when they’re just starting up production and working out the kinks.

  • Goose

    You’ve got your Tesla production numbers wrong.

    It’s more like 2,000 per year when they’re fully up and running. That 300 number is probably this year’s number, when they’re just starting up production and working out the kinks.

  • Jeff

    I really want to like this car but…

    Just as bio fuels have come under scruteny for replacing valuable food crops, this has the potential for controversy. Think of the increased polution/emissions using coal fired power plants to generate needed electricity. Or fertilizer shortages caused by gas fired power plants(fertilizer is manufactured from natural gas)This car is switching the source of pollution from the tail pipe to the power plant.

    If this car doesn’t come with it’s own solar panel for recharging and it becomes popular, prepare for brownouts/blackouts.

    You wanna know what the solution is? Ride your bike, walk or take public transit.

  • Jeff

    I really want to like this car but…

    Just as bio fuels have come under scruteny for replacing valuable food crops, this has the potential for controversy. Think of the increased polution/emissions using coal fired power plants to generate needed electricity. Or fertilizer shortages caused by gas fired power plants(fertilizer is manufactured from natural gas)This car is switching the source of pollution from the tail pipe to the power plant.

    If this car doesn’t come with it’s own solar panel for recharging and it becomes popular, prepare for brownouts/blackouts.

    You wanna know what the solution is? Ride your bike, walk or take public transit.

  • Craig

    “Why do alternative fuel cars that are affordable always look so gay? ”

    Only when you’re sitting in the driver’s seat, you closet case.

  • Craig

    “Why do alternative fuel cars that are affordable always look so gay? ”

    Only when you’re sitting in the driver’s seat, you closet case.

  • Hmmm

    Why wasn’t the Volt mentioned…It seems to me that Geeenies have some kind of hate for GM. The Volt has all the sexiness of the Tesla and a price similar to the Th!nk at nearly 6x the range (so what if it’s not purely electric).

  • Hmmm

    Why wasn’t the Volt mentioned…It seems to me that Geeenies have some kind of hate for GM. The Volt has all the sexiness of the Tesla and a price similar to the Th!nk at nearly 6x the range (so what if it’s not purely electric).

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  • Jorgi40

    Capitalism at its finest. Leave the innovation to the people I think we have been waiting too long for the government to come up with something.

  • Jorgi40

    Capitalism at its finest. Leave the innovation to the people I think we have been waiting too long for the government to come up with something.

  • but what if…

    Bike, Walking, and Public Transit aren’t always available? I live about 20 miles away from my work place in a small town in kentucky. We don’t exactly have subways, monorails, and busses to get us everywhere we want to go. And with it being 20 miles, walking is out of the question, and I have no desire to get up a few hours early just to bike to work…So I’m happy with my normal car that runs on gas…even though it is 3.50 a gallon.

  • but what if…

    Bike, Walking, and Public Transit aren’t always available? I live about 20 miles away from my work place in a small town in kentucky. We don’t exactly have subways, monorails, and busses to get us everywhere we want to go. And with it being 20 miles, walking is out of the question, and I have no desire to get up a few hours early just to bike to work…So I’m happy with my normal car that runs on gas…even though it is 3.50 a gallon.

  • sinan

    I would sell my 2liter and buy this one instead.

  • sinan

    I would sell my 2liter and buy this one instead.

  • Timbo

    The Aptera Electric Plug-in Hybrid is a way better buy than this thing. Check it out.

  • Timbo

    The Aptera Electric Plug-in Hybrid is a way better buy than this thing. Check it out.

  • Dale

    WTF said: “Why do alternative fuel cars that are affordable always look so gay?”

    They don’t. Check out this one for under 30K.

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4237853.html

  • Dale

    WTF said: “Why do alternative fuel cars that are affordable always look so gay?”

    They don’t. Check out this one for under 30K.

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4237853.html

  • http://none Pollux

    @ Uncle B

    Little too soon to claim this as some sort of political victory. Gas for your car isn’t the only thing coming from the oil wells in the Middle East. What about rocket fuel? Jet fuel (all the airlines)? Plastic?

    Nevertheless, it would have a pretty major impact.

  • http://lms.org.au Red

    I would call cheap being sub 14k for such a vehicle. If the American and European car makers can’t do that then India no doubt will. The cost of making electric vehicles is greatly reduced over fuel munching vehicles simply by design. Mechanical compression engines have hundreds of parts, an electric motor has fewer than 10 major components. Regulators are cheap, and so too are batteries. The most expensive component of this car is the body kit and safety gear.

  • http://lms.org.au Red

    I would call cheap being sub 14k for such a vehicle. If the American and European car makers can’t do that then India no doubt will. The cost of making electric vehicles is greatly reduced over fuel munching vehicles simply by design. Mechanical compression engines have hundreds of parts, an electric motor has fewer than 10 major components. Regulators are cheap, and so too are batteries. The most expensive component of this car is the body kit and safety gear.

  • http://lms.org.au Red

    I would call cheap being sub 14k for such a vehicle. If the American and European car makers can’t do that then India no doubt will. The cost of making electric vehicles is greatly reduced over fuel munching vehicles simply by design. Mechanical compression engines have hundreds of parts, an electric motor has fewer than 10 major components. Regulators are cheap, and so too are batteries. The most expensive component of this car is the body kit and safety gear.

  • Nunya Bidness

    angry about wasting our fue,

    I agree about driving smaller engines even though I’m American. I’d drive one if I could find what I need. Where the Hell are the cars that are needed?

    I drive 40 miles one way and 40 miles back. Why? I need the paycheck and can’t find it in the area where my home is located. If I sell my home I will have to pay double or triple the price to purchase the same size or smaller house in the area where I work. It isn’t as simple as everyone wants to rant, rave and point fingers about.

    On the other hoof, I have my own rant, rave and finger pointing to do.If I had a small 1.2 gas engined car without the “HYBRID” attached to it I may be happy. Driving 40 miles of highway one way makes a Hybrid useless.

    I also need my small truck for deliveries.

    Oh, I just thought of something cool! I can buy one of these $25,000 electric cars, put a gas drive generator in the back to keep the batteries topped off and tow a trailer. When I realize that the dumpy little car won’t cut it I can pull the batteries, electric motor and generator out and install a real 10.0 motor.

    Damn! Right back where I started.

  • Nunya Bidness

    angry about wasting our fue,

    I agree about driving smaller engines even though I’m American. I’d drive one if I could find what I need. Where the Hell are the cars that are needed?

    I drive 40 miles one way and 40 miles back. Why? I need the paycheck and can’t find it in the area where my home is located. If I sell my home I will have to pay double or triple the price to purchase the same size or smaller house in the area where I work. It isn’t as simple as everyone wants to rant, rave and point fingers about.

    On the other hoof, I have my own rant, rave and finger pointing to do.If I had a small 1.2 gas engined car without the “HYBRID” attached to it I may be happy. Driving 40 miles of highway one way makes a Hybrid useless.

    I also need my small truck for deliveries.

    Oh, I just thought of something cool! I can buy one of these $25,000 electric cars, put a gas drive generator in the back to keep the batteries topped off and tow a trailer. When I realize that the dumpy little car won’t cut it I can pull the batteries, electric motor and generator out and install a real 10.0 motor.

    Damn! Right back where I started.

  • Nunya Bidness

    angry about wasting our fue,

    I agree about driving smaller engines even though I’m American. I’d drive one if I could find what I need. Where the Hell are the cars that are needed?

    I drive 40 miles one way and 40 miles back. Why? I need the paycheck and can’t find it in the area where my home is located. If I sell my home I will have to pay double or triple the price to purchase the same size or smaller house in the area where I work. It isn’t as simple as everyone wants to rant, rave and point fingers about.

    On the other hoof, I have my own rant, rave and finger pointing to do.If I had a small 1.2 gas engined car without the “HYBRID” attached to it I may be happy. Driving 40 miles of highway one way makes a Hybrid useless.

    I also need my small truck for deliveries.

    Oh, I just thought of something cool! I can buy one of these $25,000 electric cars, put a gas drive generator in the back to keep the batteries topped off and tow a trailer. When I realize that the dumpy little car won’t cut it I can pull the batteries, electric motor and generator out and install a real 10.0 motor.

    Damn! Right back where I started.

  • MotherMomOrama

    Not all alternative fuel cars HAVE to look look gay…just take a look at the Chevy Volt. MAN! That’s one sexy lookin’ car! Now, THAT’S what I’ve been talkin’ about! Forget the Prius uglier-then-s**t-but-I’m-driving-this-thing-so-everybody-will-know-how-I’m-saving-the-planet freak show….

  • MotherMomOrama

    Not all alternative fuel cars HAVE to look look gay…just take a look at the Chevy Volt. MAN! That’s one sexy lookin’ car! Now, THAT’S what I’ve been talkin’ about! Forget the Prius uglier-then-s**t-but-I’m-driving-this-thing-so-everybody-will-know-how-I’m-saving-the-planet freak show….

  • Self Powered Commuter

    @but what if…

    I grew up in KY and 20 miles on empty rural roads is a cakewalk compared to my urban bike commute in SF these days. If you’re too lazy to make a difference, just say so, but don’t make excuses. FYI, 20 miles is not “a few hours”, on a decent road bike you should have no problem averaging 17mph. Since you need 60 minutes of exercise a day anyway you’d probably only be out another 75 minutes a day tops, and you’d be healthier. Care or don’t but don’t make excuses, that just encourages other people to be lazy.

  • Self Powered Commuter

    @but what if…

    I grew up in KY and 20 miles on empty rural roads is a cakewalk compared to my urban bike commute in SF these days. If you’re too lazy to make a difference, just say so, but don’t make excuses. FYI, 20 miles is not “a few hours”, on a decent road bike you should have no problem averaging 17mph. Since you need 60 minutes of exercise a day anyway you’d probably only be out another 75 minutes a day tops, and you’d be healthier. Care or don’t but don’t make excuses, that just encourages other people to be lazy.

  • Pea

    Please watch the Documentary ” Who Killed the Electric Car ” on Google video. Our Corrupt Aholes on the hill will never allow these babies on the road again.

  • Pea

    Please watch the Documentary ” Who Killed the Electric Car ” on Google video. Our Corrupt Aholes on the hill will never allow these babies on the road again.

  • Nirad

    This would make a lot of sense for us in Los Angeles. If we can use it in the carpool lane and park it on city streets for free, they will sell.

  • Nirad

    This would make a lot of sense for us in Los Angeles. If we can use it in the carpool lane and park it on city streets for free, they will sell.

  • Nirad

    This would make a lot of sense for us in Los Angeles. If we can use it in the carpool lane and park it on city streets for free, they will sell.

  • http://xevio.us Texas

    Sounds great. You can go to work for just 3¢ per mile. By the way did you see the €200/month ($313/month) battery contract??? That kind of negates the savings doesn’t it? I can fill my Expedition, eh twice for that.

  • http://xevio.us Texas

    Sounds great. You can go to work for just 3¢ per mile. By the way did you see the €200/month ($313/month) battery contract??? That kind of negates the savings doesn’t it? I can fill my Expedition, eh twice for that.

  • Realistic

    I wonder if anyone has thought about what would happen if these things actually sold? I can imagine everyone either getting stuck in 5pm traffic and all the batteries dying, clogging up the freeways for miles around. Or everyone getting home around 6pm and plugging in their “zero emmission” electric car and the coal/oil/natural gas powerplant down the street having to crank into overdrive to avoid the massive blackout. The power generation/distribution system in this country can be wiped out by a determined squirrel, do we really want a bunch of these things running around?

  • Realistic

    I wonder if anyone has thought about what would happen if these things actually sold? I can imagine everyone either getting stuck in 5pm traffic and all the batteries dying, clogging up the freeways for miles around. Or everyone getting home around 6pm and plugging in their “zero emmission” electric car and the coal/oil/natural gas powerplant down the street having to crank into overdrive to avoid the massive blackout. The power generation/distribution system in this country can be wiped out by a determined squirrel, do we really want a bunch of these things running around?

  • Schism

    I agree with some of the other posters, the car looks stupid. Your average eco-mom might not care, but we sure as hell do. The tesla looks awesome, but it’s 75k more, do we really need to pay 75k more to get something that looks cool?

  • Schism

    I agree with some of the other posters, the car looks stupid. Your average eco-mom might not care, but we sure as hell do. The tesla looks awesome, but it’s 75k more, do we really need to pay 75k more to get something that looks cool?

  • josh

    Only one person commented on the power consumption, and it is the real problem. According to the specifications I found on the Think website, this car takes 10 hours for a full charge at 230 V AC/ 14 A. This means that every time you charge this car, which must owners would probably due nightly to avoid it running out of power on them, it would use 32.2 Kilowatt hours of electricity, per charge, per car. Since the company says it hopes to sell 30-50,000 of these in a few years, this car is not the cure for the environment that you are making it out to be. Sure it has zero emissions and it is made from 95% recycled materials, but roughly 31% of the power in the U.S. comes from coal plants, and they definitely will be producing emissions.

    For further illustration, if the company manages to sell even half the number they want (15-25,000) and each of those cars were plugged in for the full 10 hour charge time, that would be 483,000 – 805,000 Kilowatt hours a night (of course this assumes all of the cars were plugged in for ten hours a night). Now assume that every car in the U.S. was an electric…now you’re talking some serious energy consumption. Admittedly there are tons of factors that would have to be included to get the best estimate, but even a little bit of basic math shows that in their current state (no pun intended) Electric cars are simply not the answer.

    I am not saying that alternative fueled cars are a dumb idea, far from it, but I think there is a tendency among people to ignore simple common sense when it comes to the environment these days. In fact we would do far better if we just turned off the lights when we weren’t using them, or unplugged some appliances when they are not being used. That being said I hope the engineers working on these cars can find a way to make them better, but we also have to fix the problem of where we get our electricity first. Until we solve that little problem, all this is just debate.

  • josh

    Only one person commented on the power consumption, and it is the real problem. According to the specifications I found on the Think website, this car takes 10 hours for a full charge at 230 V AC/ 14 A. This means that every time you charge this car, which must owners would probably due nightly to avoid it running out of power on them, it would use 32.2 Kilowatt hours of electricity, per charge, per car. Since the company says it hopes to sell 30-50,000 of these in a few years, this car is not the cure for the environment that you are making it out to be. Sure it has zero emissions and it is made from 95% recycled materials, but roughly 31% of the power in the U.S. comes from coal plants, and they definitely will be producing emissions.

    For further illustration, if the company manages to sell even half the number they want (15-25,000) and each of those cars were plugged in for the full 10 hour charge time, that would be 483,000 – 805,000 Kilowatt hours a night (of course this assumes all of the cars were plugged in for ten hours a night). Now assume that every car in the U.S. was an electric…now you’re talking some serious energy consumption. Admittedly there are tons of factors that would have to be included to get the best estimate, but even a little bit of basic math shows that in their current state (no pun intended) Electric cars are simply not the answer.

    I am not saying that alternative fueled cars are a dumb idea, far from it, but I think there is a tendency among people to ignore simple common sense when it comes to the environment these days. In fact we would do far better if we just turned off the lights when we weren’t using them, or unplugged some appliances when they are not being used. That being said I hope the engineers working on these cars can find a way to make them better, but we also have to fix the problem of where we get our electricity first. Until we solve that little problem, all this is just debate.

  • mike

    wow these are really really nice, what a breakthrough

  • mike

    wow these are really really nice, what a breakthrough

  • http://www.afrodream.com afrodream ‘n’ beaded sandals

    frank speaking this car is nice but still expensive compare to the technology used to make this car. 25,000 dollars for a piggy car is beyond common man imagination.

    I guess the TATA NANO of india is the best option for the common man. Cost around 2000 dollars!

  • http://www.afrodream.com afrodream ‘n’ beaded sandals

    frank speaking this car is nice but still expensive compare to the technology used to make this car. 25,000 dollars for a piggy car is beyond common man imagination.

    I guess the TATA NANO of india is the best option for the common man. Cost around 2000 dollars!

  • angry about wasting our fuel

    Hey Abe, you drive an 15 year old car, so who is here a tard.

    Ups, sorry man, i couldn’t resist. ;)

    Sorry folks i didn’t mean to offend anybody

    But how many percent in teh US drives an V8.

    I can only say its useless and needless in these times

    EOT

  • angry about wasting our fuel

    Hey Abe, you drive an 15 year old car, so who is here a tard.

    Ups, sorry man, i couldn’t resist. ;)

    Sorry folks i didn’t mean to offend anybody

    But how many percent in teh US drives an V8.

    I can only say its useless and needless in these times

    EOT

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    @2 Josh and Realistic:

    I think you guys make a good point about energy consumption, and I added a short note to the post referencing that.

  • http://gas2.org Clayton B. Cornell

    @2 Josh and Realistic:

    I think you guys make a good point about energy consumption, and I added a short note to the post referencing that.

  • Anon-mius

    Unfortunately electric cars will not resolve the problem. America’s Economy is based on the oil industry. Most of our power plants use fossil fuels to generate electricity. In fact we will actually use more fossil fuels due to the limited charge granted by the cars battery. If everyone in the country used electric cars you would find yourself wasting even more fossil fuels trying to keep the cars charged because it requires more energy(and thus more fossil fuels) to charge something rather than directly powering it, as in the case of “gas guzzlers”. So in turn this is merely removing the problem from the eyes of the American public, but is obviously not a solution. Regardless of what cars we use, to eliminate fossil fuel consumption, corporate America needs to turn to an alternate source of power. If we use more nuclear and solar power then perhaps the electric car would be a viable solution.

  • Christine

    65mph? The only time I drive that slow is when I’m merging onto the freeway! I’m just kidding, but seriously, that would be a big factor into why I wouldn’t buy this car. Plus, since we Americans are in love with our SUVs, I’d be afraid to drive this and get into an accident. I’d look like a pancake in between two big cars. If they made this car actually look like it could withstand a major accident acceptably and could go even 5 mph faster, I would consider getting one.

  • Anon-mius

    Unfortunately electric cars will not resolve the problem. America’s Economy is based on the oil industry. Most of our power plants use fossil fuels to generate electricity. In fact we will actually use more fossil fuels due to the limited charge granted by the cars battery. If everyone in the country used electric cars you would find yourself wasting even more fossil fuels trying to keep the cars charged because it requires more energy(and thus more fossil fuels) to charge something rather than directly powering it, as in the case of “gas guzzlers”. So in turn this is merely removing the problem from the eyes of the American public, but is obviously not a solution. Regardless of what cars we use, to eliminate fossil fuel consumption, corporate America needs to turn to an alternate source of power. If we use more nuclear and solar power then perhaps the electric car would be a viable solution.

  • Christine

    65mph? The only time I drive that slow is when I’m merging onto the freeway! I’m just kidding, but seriously, that would be a big factor into why I wouldn’t buy this car. Plus, since we Americans are in love with our SUVs, I’d be afraid to drive this and get into an accident. I’d look like a pancake in between two big cars. If they made this car actually look like it could withstand a major accident acceptably and could go even 5 mph faster, I would consider getting one.

  • James

    I’m glad to see someone putting out a affordable alternative to the big automakers. The hybrids of today aren’t worth the money for the fuel they save often taking 7 – 10 years to recoup any money saved in fuel. And I think it’s rather obvious that the claims of more power plants and higher water usage made against electric cars is just claims by the Auto and oil companies. Plasma t.v.s, home computers and mega home stereo systems draw a lot more power than an electric car charged at night and yet you’ve never seen any data done about concerns of new power plants nor water used to supply power to these type of devices. It’s time for a shift in the way we travel daily, and the auto companies need to get on board or be left behind, as for oil companies they can kiss my ass. We can see thru their lies and propaganda, we just need a president that’s not an oil man.

  • James

    I’m glad to see someone putting out a affordable alternative to the big automakers. The hybrids of today aren’t worth the money for the fuel they save often taking 7 – 10 years to recoup any money saved in fuel. And I think it’s rather obvious that the claims of more power plants and higher water usage made against electric cars is just claims by the Auto and oil companies. Plasma t.v.s, home computers and mega home stereo systems draw a lot more power than an electric car charged at night and yet you’ve never seen any data done about concerns of new power plants nor water used to supply power to these type of devices. It’s time for a shift in the way we travel daily, and the auto companies need to get on board or be left behind, as for oil companies they can kiss my ass. We can see thru their lies and propaganda, we just need a president that’s not an oil man.

  • James

    first off, if your buying one of these vehicles it becomes your main car, then you keep a reasonable 2nd car for long term travel, something like a corolla or yaris a vehicle that still gets 35 – 40 mpg. even then you can do a lot to improve the fuel efficiency.

  • James

    first off, if your buying one of these vehicles it becomes your main car, then you keep a reasonable 2nd car for long term travel, something like a corolla or yaris a vehicle that still gets 35 – 40 mpg. even then you can do a lot to improve the fuel efficiency.

  • Tara Jenkins

    This is a great concept car. I am a greenie and a mom. Seating children in the retractable back seat, with no real rear collition protectiob could be very dangerous.

    Prius still ahead in family safety

  • Tara Jenkins

    This is a great concept car. I am a greenie and a mom. Seating children in the retractable back seat, with no real rear collition protectiob could be very dangerous.

    Prius still ahead in family safety

  • Nunya Bidness

    Have a look. It’s been, and is being, done to death.

    Why has it not worked?

    http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Vehicles/vhehicles.htm#NewKawEV

  • Nunya Bidness

    Have a look. It’s been, and is being, done to death.

    Why has it not worked?

    http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Vehicles/vhehicles.htm#NewKawEV

  • http://www.onnotextiles.com Dagny McKinley

    While I’m in love with the Tesla Roadster, I am not a rich woman. Nice to know there are more affordable alternatives in the world.

    Dagny McKinley

    http://www.onnotextiles.com

    organic apparel

  • http://www.onnotextiles.com Dagny McKinley

    While I’m in love with the Tesla Roadster, I am not a rich woman. Nice to know there are more affordable alternatives in the world.

    Dagny McKinley

    http://www.onnotextiles.com

    organic apparel

  • Adrian

    I am excited that electric cars are finally going to be available soon. A non-carbon emmitting automobile would reduce my output significantly since I drive quite frequently for my career.

    To continue the efforts I made on Earth Day, I am trying to find some easy, simple things I can do to help stop global warming. Has anyone seen the http://www.EarthLab.com is promoting their Earth Day (month) challenge, with the goal to get 1 million people to take their carbon footprint test in April? I took the test, it was easy and only took me about 2 minutes and I am planning on lowering my score with some of their tips.

    I am always looking for places to find more tips for living more environmentally friendly. If you know of any other sites worth my time let me know.

  • Adrian

    I am excited that electric cars are finally going to be available soon. A non-carbon emmitting automobile would reduce my output significantly since I drive quite frequently for my career.

    To continue the efforts I made on Earth Day, I am trying to find some easy, simple things I can do to help stop global warming. Has anyone seen the http://www.EarthLab.com is promoting their Earth Day (month) challenge, with the goal to get 1 million people to take their carbon footprint test in April? I took the test, it was easy and only took me about 2 minutes and I am planning on lowering my score with some of their tips.

    I am always looking for places to find more tips for living more environmentally friendly. If you know of any other sites worth my time let me know.

  • http://www.boredquiz.com Economy Quizzes

    Why on earth can’t these come a little bit sooner. 2009 seems too far away. I wonder which motor car companies have their hands in these projects.

  • http://www.boredquiz.com Economy Quizzes

    Why on earth can’t these come a little bit sooner. 2009 seems too far away. I wonder which motor car companies have their hands in these projects.

  • http://www.iphonebysteve.com Steve

    Bring it on! I ready to be part of the solution, no longer part of the problem.

    Steve

    http://www.iphonebysteve.com

  • http://www.iphonebysteve.com Steve

    Bring it on! I ready to be part of the solution, no longer part of the problem.

    Steve

    http://www.iphonebysteve.com

  • Shirley Hergesheimer

    Pease add an overhead solar panel to suppliment electric power.

  • Shirley Hergesheimer

    Pease add an overhead solar panel to suppliment electric power.

  • susan

    I’m glad SOMEONE is bringing back the electric car (watch, Who Killed the Electric Car) because GM sure the heck isn’t and neither is the Bush administration. It’s all about money

  • susan

    I’m glad SOMEONE is bringing back the electric car (watch, Who Killed the Electric Car) because GM sure the heck isn’t and neither is the Bush administration. It’s all about money

  • http://none R. Schlosser

    Would be great for a city car. I believe that it is over priced at 25K. It would be much more competitive at 15-18K. Unless fuel goes up a LOT more I can buy a lot of it to make up the difference between the cost of 17K for my Toyota Matrix and 25K for this new electric car. A last note is HOW DUMB is Ford feeliing now – they shojuld have sold the rights to the Excursion!!!

  • Craig Sundberg

    Can anyone tell me who to contact to make a purchase? I don’t care if I have to ship it myself. Petrolium is too expensive.

    I read the blogs here … let’s just make the purchases and stop complaining about the inconveniences. Action speaks louder than words.

    Someone should sue GM for eliminating the EV-1. This was a crime. Certainly the OIL GIANTS had their hand on someone’s family jews to cause that.

    Special interests in the US are preventing us from having these electric vehicles sold here in the US. Is there no one that can help us common people ?

  • Craig Sundberg

    Can anyone tell me who to contact to make a purchase? I don’t care if I have to ship it myself. Petrolium is too expensive.

    I read the blogs here … let’s just make the purchases and stop complaining about the inconveniences. Action speaks louder than words.

    Someone should sue GM for eliminating the EV-1. This was a crime. Certainly the OIL GIANTS had their hand on someone’s family jews to cause that.

    Special interests in the US are preventing us from having these electric vehicles sold here in the US. Is there no one that can help us common people ?

  • http://www.nerys.com/ Chris Taylor

    How about a Logical Addendum to your Silly Addendum

    NO electric cars will NOT increase the load on the grid. THIS IS A MYTH.

    How do you think gasoline gets from the refinery to your gas tank ? Fairy Dust?

    It takes electricity. A lot of it. MORE than what this car will use driving you around town. IE the NET LOAD on the grid will DECREASE as we use less and less gasoline and therefore less electricity shoving gasoline around in gas stations billboards advertising etc.. etc.. etc..

    I only need a 65 mile range. and I have a LONG commute. 53 miles EACH way. I drive to work. Plug in. Drive home Plug in.

    $1 worth of electricity used 50 cents at each location. Only a moron would thing that much electricity would even make the power company BLINK.

    If I turn on an electric heater of an air conditioner I will use far far more power in that same period of time.

    People are not ready for these short range cars because they are TOO EXPENSIVE to be a second car. Once these things get down to $10,000 they will be FREE. The amount of gas you would buy each month for your commute to to work will be greater than the CAR PAYMENT for such a vehicle. IE its FREE.

    Once critical ass is reached and we have enough R&D dollars will be spent and the range problem will be solved.

  • http://www.nerys.com/ Chris Taylor

    How about a Logical Addendum to your Silly Addendum

    NO electric cars will NOT increase the load on the grid. THIS IS A MYTH.

    How do you think gasoline gets from the refinery to your gas tank ? Fairy Dust?

    It takes electricity. A lot of it. MORE than what this car will use driving you around town. IE the NET LOAD on the grid will DECREASE as we use less and less gasoline and therefore less electricity shoving gasoline around in gas stations billboards advertising etc.. etc.. etc..

    I only need a 65 mile range. and I have a LONG commute. 53 miles EACH way. I drive to work. Plug in. Drive home Plug in.

    $1 worth of electricity used 50 cents at each location. Only a moron would thing that much electricity would even make the power company BLINK.

    If I turn on an electric heater of an air conditioner I will use far far more power in that same period of time.

    People are not ready for these short range cars because they are TOO EXPENSIVE to be a second car. Once these things get down to $10,000 they will be FREE. The amount of gas you would buy each month for your commute to to work will be greater than the CAR PAYMENT for such a vehicle. IE its FREE.

    Once critical ass is reached and we have enough R&D dollars will be spent and the range problem will be solved.

  • http://www.nerys.com/ Chris Taylor

    “angry about wasting our fuel said on April 24th, 2008 at 7:29 am

    Why don’t you american go on, driving your 5-7 Liter SUV cars? Now every american snivels about alternative fuels when gasoline is pricy. What have you done until now? I tell you: wasting oil with such cars, that oil which belongs to the mankind and not to the american nation! This is already an stereotype about americans here in Europe. Amerivans in their big-engine-SUVs .

    Where is the problem driving a 1.4 or 1.6 Liter car?”

    NOT my fault. The car I WANT the 1.2 litre 50mpg diesels are ILLEGAL here and far to expensive to import

    THATS not my fault.

  • http://www.nerys.com/ Chris Taylor

    “angry about wasting our fuel said on April 24th, 2008 at 7:29 am

    Why don’t you american go on, driving your 5-7 Liter SUV cars? Now every american snivels about alternative fuels when gasoline is pricy. What have you done until now? I tell you: wasting oil with such cars, that oil which belongs to the mankind and not to the american nation! This is already an stereotype about americans here in Europe. Amerivans in their big-engine-SUVs .

    Where is the problem driving a 1.4 or 1.6 Liter car?”

    NOT my fault. The car I WANT the 1.2 litre 50mpg diesels are ILLEGAL here and far to expensive to import

    THATS not my fault.

  • http://none richard

    no thing green about a think

    have you looked under the board of directors?

    do you see who you are promoting here?

    can you get a grip?

    they are not even selling the car complete,

    bueno, you have to rent the batteries, for ever !

    meaning, as long as you own the vehicle, you pay almost 300 per month to people you would never want to meet in a dark alley, who are armed as in the Pentagon,

    need another hint?

    Do something more than repeat the party line for once,

    you can do this, you can google, you are educated,

    you can spell, all good, use it

    and save us the grief.

    If there were a viable electric car

    actually available, ligit, decent price,

    made with something besides slave labor and plastic,

    it would not need you to announce it, I assure you.

  • Rudy Mueller

    I like it, I want to buy one, thanks, Rudy.

  • Rudy Mueller

    I like it, I want to buy one, thanks, Rudy.

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  • Larry cucolo

    Where can I buy one

  • Larry cucolo

    Where can I buy one

  • Sheri Lawhun

    I love it. Maybe I’ll get one, but I do have more research to do.

  • Sheri Lawhun

    I love it. Maybe I’ll get one, but I do have more research to do.

  • toya

    I like the idea, but I think $20-26K is still too much. Companies would sell a lot more cars if they were really affordable to the average income person,and even the below average. The people serving our country, teaching our children,stocking our store shelves, and checking us out in the grocery line are the ones who are in need of this car. You could sell these cars through the roof if they were around $15K families with teens could buy more than one, pretty much everyone in America would try to own one, and just think about your profits then. If this company is really earth friendly then they would price their car at a rate that would make everyone want to buy one and would let the people whose really need them be able to afford them.

  • toya

    I like the idea, but I think $20-26K is still too much. Companies would sell a lot more cars if they were really affordable to the average income person,and even the below average. The people serving our country, teaching our children,stocking our store shelves, and checking us out in the grocery line are the ones who are in need of this car. You could sell these cars through the roof if they were around $15K families with teens could buy more than one, pretty much everyone in America would try to own one, and just think about your profits then. If this company is really earth friendly then they would price their car at a rate that would make everyone want to buy one and would let the people whose really need them be able to afford them.

  • Richard

    I agree with the statement that the North American consumer has been brainwashed into owning a ‘safer’ larger car with a big motor for power ‘when you need it’

    All of a sudden in the 90s everyone needed minivans and SUVs

    The Europeans have been running 1.0L to 1.5L cars for years. They drive at Hwy speeds and are much more efficient. The US car companies build and produce small cars for Europe which are not available in North America(that goes for diesels as well)

    As for an electric car, if it could go 50 mph and go 50 miles it would be fine for 90% of most peoples’ daily needs. Work, School, Shopping. I’ll take one !!!

    Now, if they could get the price down a little to coincide with an similar-sized gas model, they would stand a better chance of acceptance. $25,000 for a Think is too rich for me.

    How about parking meters with plugs that provide electricity when you put coins in. This would put to rest peoples fears of running out of juice.

  • Richard

    I agree with the statement that the North American consumer has been brainwashed into owning a ‘safer’ larger car with a big motor for power ‘when you need it’

    All of a sudden in the 90s everyone needed minivans and SUVs

    The Europeans have been running 1.0L to 1.5L cars for years. They drive at Hwy speeds and are much more efficient. The US car companies build and produce small cars for Europe which are not available in North America(that goes for diesels as well)

    As for an electric car, if it could go 50 mph and go 50 miles it would be fine for 90% of most peoples’ daily needs. Work, School, Shopping. I’ll take one !!!

    Now, if they could get the price down a little to coincide with an similar-sized gas model, they would stand a better chance of acceptance. $25,000 for a Think is too rich for me.

    How about parking meters with plugs that provide electricity when you put coins in. This would put to rest peoples fears of running out of juice.

  • William

    So I use this small electric car around town and when I want to go very far (for the weekend)–I call one of many car rental firms that give good deals on weekends…Couple three weekends per year of rental car cost less than insurnace and depreciation by far….

  • William

    So I use this small electric car around town and when I want to go very far (for the weekend)–I call one of many car rental firms that give good deals on weekends…Couple three weekends per year of rental car cost less than insurnace and depreciation by far….

  • jim kirk

    obviously there are many opinions on the above plug-ins including one that is homophobic. a great deal of the problem in the USA is that most cities are designed around the gas guzzeling suv. the cores of many american cities are dead and empty and the population is used to long and expensive commuting. in european and canadian cities where the core still houses the bulk of the population a electric car such as the think citycar is idea. as for the bicyclist above, while what he does works for him, he failed to inculude senions and others who are not as physically able.

    the other question i would like answered is; does the battery efficiency drop in very cold weather?

    all i want to know is where and when i can buy one.

    Jim Kirk

  • jim kirk

    obviously there are many opinions on the above plug-ins including one that is homophobic. a great deal of the problem in the USA is that most cities are designed around the gas guzzeling suv. the cores of many american cities are dead and empty and the population is used to long and expensive commuting. in european and canadian cities where the core still houses the bulk of the population a electric car such as the think citycar is idea. as for the bicyclist above, while what he does works for him, he failed to inculude senions and others who are not as physically able.

    the other question i would like answered is; does the battery efficiency drop in very cold weather?

    all i want to know is where and when i can buy one.

    Jim Kirk

  • http://HiddenBuzz.com George Lewis

    So what’s the “Affordable” price you’re talking about? And does it use Lithium batteries? Does it have regenerative breaking? Can it let you drive in the car-pool lane by yourself? I WANT IT NOW! I’m getting a Triac! Just $19.995, and it’s available now.

  • http://HiddenBuzz.com George Lewis

    So what’s the “Affordable” price you’re talking about? And does it use Lithium batteries? Does it have regenerative breaking? Can it let you drive in the car-pool lane by yourself? I WANT IT NOW! I’m getting a Triac! Just $19.995, and it’s available now.

  • chris

    I believe this car is a great idea, but it’s way too ugly. I would love to save gas and drive a hybrid, but even those are ugly. The Prius is one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen. I believe that if I am going to pay tens of thousands of dollars on something, I should get something that I enjoy looking at and being seen in. The Tesla roadster is an amazing car, now make it affordable.

    I do drive a “smaller” engine car, and I am an american, but I am not about to stop complaining about gas prices. I have to travel about 100 miles a day for my job. I am in a different place everyday. I drive a 1.8T Audi and get about 28mpg. At these prices for gas, I am beraly surviving. We need this technology, we need to be able to convert existing vehicles. I would love to keep my car and just swap the engine for an electric one, but it’s just not worth the cost.

    As the price of living goes up and wages go nowhere, how can anyone expect to survive. The reason americans are in so much trouble is the simple fact that the price of living has jump exponentialy in the past couple of years. We just can’t afford gas, food, heat, the insane housing crisis, and other essentials. This is creating our uneasyness about the economy, so we are not spending. Our dollar is worth next to nothing, so imports are incredibly expensive. We just can’t seem to find a way out of the mess we are in. We need to do something like get away from gas, it is at the root of all of our issues. All of the increases in goods and living essentials revolves around gas prices. It takes gas to deliver goods, it takes oil to produce a lot of the goods we buy (like plastic), it takes oil to make lubircants that are on the gears of many things we buy. Our lives need oil, if we can stop using it as a fuel for cars, we can lower it’s demand and focus it for other things (thus lowering their cost).

    In the end, this car is a good idea. While they may produce it, it will not sell enough for people to acctually buy it due to its uglyness. I would never buy it based on its looks, no matter how expensive gas gets.

  • chris

    I believe this car is a great idea, but it’s way too ugly. I would love to save gas and drive a hybrid, but even those are ugly. The Prius is one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen. I believe that if I am going to pay tens of thousands of dollars on something, I should get something that I enjoy looking at and being seen in. The Tesla roadster is an amazing car, now make it affordable.

    I do drive a “smaller” engine car, and I am an american, but I am not about to stop complaining about gas prices. I have to travel about 100 miles a day for my job. I am in a different place everyday. I drive a 1.8T Audi and get about 28mpg. At these prices for gas, I am beraly surviving. We need this technology, we need to be able to convert existing vehicles. I would love to keep my car and just swap the engine for an electric one, but it’s just not worth the cost.

    As the price of living goes up and wages go nowhere, how can anyone expect to survive. The reason americans are in so much trouble is the simple fact that the price of living has jump exponentialy in the past couple of years. We just can’t afford gas, food, heat, the insane housing crisis, and other essentials. This is creating our uneasyness about the economy, so we are not spending. Our dollar is worth next to nothing, so imports are incredibly expensive. We just can’t seem to find a way out of the mess we are in. We need to do something like get away from gas, it is at the root of all of our issues. All of the increases in goods and living essentials revolves around gas prices. It takes gas to deliver goods, it takes oil to produce a lot of the goods we buy (like plastic), it takes oil to make lubircants that are on the gears of many things we buy. Our lives need oil, if we can stop using it as a fuel for cars, we can lower it’s demand and focus it for other things (thus lowering their cost).

    In the end, this car is a good idea. While they may produce it, it will not sell enough for people to acctually buy it due to its uglyness. I would never buy it based on its looks, no matter how expensive gas gets.

  • lisa bass

    Please send this to new York we could sure us it.

  • lisa bass

    Please send this to new York we could sure us it.

  • http://Frontrier Don

    I worked for Ford back in 1983 and sold new Fords – they made a Diesel Escort that got from 60- to 70 MPG back in 1983. Gas was cheep then and they did not sell very well, but my point is if we had that ability then to make that type car whats going on now?

    I find it hard to belive the car companies can,t produce a 100 MPG car if they put thier moind to it.

  • http://www.ezgenerics.com generic

    I tried doing a search and looking at the manufacturer website, but i can’t locate a price for this car. It says under 25K but nothing more specific

  • http://www.ezgenerics.com generic

    I tried doing a search and looking at the manufacturer website, but i can’t locate a price for this car. It says under 25K but nothing more specific

  • Adam

    This situation is simple: The world is becoming rich enough that just about everyone wants a car. We’re in a global oil auction, and there are a limited number of suppliers. Electric cars MUST take the place of many gas-based cars, or this auction will just keep escalating. This has nothing to do with the environment or ridiculous global warming garbage. It’s about our freedom to continue living the sort of lifestyle we want to live. I want to be able to drive whenever I want and not panic over every fillup. And as for the European who said oil belongs to mankind: We don’t live in a world commune, buddy. Learn something about private property rights and economics! Whoever owns the oil, owns it, not mankind. Now let’s screw those people, put up the nuke plants, and develop electric cars!

  • Adam

    This situation is simple: The world is becoming rich enough that just about everyone wants a car. We’re in a global oil auction, and there are a limited number of suppliers. Electric cars MUST take the place of many gas-based cars, or this auction will just keep escalating. This has nothing to do with the environment or ridiculous global warming garbage. It’s about our freedom to continue living the sort of lifestyle we want to live. I want to be able to drive whenever I want and not panic over every fillup. And as for the European who said oil belongs to mankind: We don’t live in a world commune, buddy. Learn something about private property rights and economics! Whoever owns the oil, owns it, not mankind. Now let’s screw those people, put up the nuke plants, and develop electric cars!

  • heather

    I have 4 kids at three different schools and I am driving them to and from everyday within a 5 mile radius.they would ride their bikes but there are very high traffic areas. I would love an electric car that will seat six and go more that 16 mph.( golf carts)

  • heather

    I have 4 kids at three different schools and I am driving them to and from everyday within a 5 mile radius.they would ride their bikes but there are very high traffic areas. I would love an electric car that will seat six and go more that 16 mph.( golf carts)

  • looking to the future

    I personally think that electric cars are a good thing because it doesn’t effect the enviroment and it still gives us the luxurey to go far places easily.

    The only thing that disturbs me about this particular car is the design. It looks kind of stupid, like it should be in a cartoon or something.

    I’v seen what tesla looks like and it’s pretty sweet, but to expensive.

    If tesla can look that cool then the manufactures of other electric cars can design something just as appealing but at an afordable price.

  • looking to the future

    I personally think that electric cars are a good thing because it doesn’t effect the enviroment and it still gives us the luxurey to go far places easily.

    The only thing that disturbs me about this particular car is the design. It looks kind of stupid, like it should be in a cartoon or something.

    I’v seen what tesla looks like and it’s pretty sweet, but to expensive.

    If tesla can look that cool then the manufactures of other electric cars can design something just as appealing but at an afordable price.

  • Dan

    If this car was 15k, i would buy solar with it to use that to recharge with. With 25k, ill just have to live with plugging it in. What would be cool is attaching a solar panel (200 watt solar panels only weigh like 44 pounds) to the hood of the vehicle to recharge when its not in use.

    I live in a small town where you can bike wherever u need to truly go to but visiting neighboring towns to visit friends would be so much easier with this car. I dont care if it costs 25k, ill figure out some way to pay for it, kidneys are going for what, 60k now a days?.

    A cheaper electric car would be great, and since we would be using less coal and oil, there would be more oil for large transport vehicles and coal electricity plants. We shouldve stuck with the EV1 and REV4 EV instead of having them destroyed. If we developed that technology from then to now, we would be driving fast, and more efficient electric cars. Batteries would be better since we would be developing stronger and more efficient ones.

  • Dan

    If this car was 15k, i would buy solar with it to use that to recharge with. With 25k, ill just have to live with plugging it in. What would be cool is attaching a solar panel (200 watt solar panels only weigh like 44 pounds) to the hood of the vehicle to recharge when its not in use.

    I live in a small town where you can bike wherever u need to truly go to but visiting neighboring towns to visit friends would be so much easier with this car. I dont care if it costs 25k, ill figure out some way to pay for it, kidneys are going for what, 60k now a days?.

    A cheaper electric car would be great, and since we would be using less coal and oil, there would be more oil for large transport vehicles and coal electricity plants. We shouldve stuck with the EV1 and REV4 EV instead of having them destroyed. If we developed that technology from then to now, we would be driving fast, and more efficient electric cars. Batteries would be better since we would be developing stronger and more efficient ones.

  • Stew

    I would almost certainly buy a Think City, I’m a consultant and drive about 100 miles a day on average to several clients. The distance I drive is on the outer limit of this cars range but I would still do it IF:

    Cost was under $25k including everything. I just wouldn’t buy one if I Had to lease or rent anything, namely the battery. I want to buy it so I wouldn’t have to worry about it being taken away from me, I guess I’m a little paranoid due to GM, Honda and others cancelling leases and crushing cars.

    If it cost $25k and I had to pay a battery rental of $200/mo that makes it equivalent to a $35k to $40k car, that is too much.

    Right now I drive a paid off ’04 Hyundai Accent and average over 40mpg, I really want the numbers to work for a car like this but I’m not going to loose money either.

  • Stew

    I would almost certainly buy a Think City, I’m a consultant and drive about 100 miles a day on average to several clients. The distance I drive is on the outer limit of this cars range but I would still do it IF:

    Cost was under $25k including everything. I just wouldn’t buy one if I Had to lease or rent anything, namely the battery. I want to buy it so I wouldn’t have to worry about it being taken away from me, I guess I’m a little paranoid due to GM, Honda and others cancelling leases and crushing cars.

    If it cost $25k and I had to pay a battery rental of $200/mo that makes it equivalent to a $35k to $40k car, that is too much.

    Right now I drive a paid off ’04 Hyundai Accent and average over 40mpg, I really want the numbers to work for a car like this but I’m not going to loose money either.

  • wild bill

    Most people dont care about being green but they do care about the price of fuel. IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GET OFF OF OIL, YOU NEED AN EV THAT LOOKS CONVENTIONAL,AND ACTS CONVENTIONAL. SIZE, SPEED, AND RANGE. NOT MOST OF THE FAR OUT DESIGNS THAT MAKE A VW BUG LOOK CONVENTIONAL, AND GOES 50 MPH WITH A RANGE OF 120 MILES. BY THE WAY, MAYBE WE SHOULD BLAME THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR HIGH OIL PRICES. OUR GOV. REPS WHO STOPED US FROM DRILING, OR BUILDING NUCULAR POWER PLANTS,OR REFINERS. FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS. HIGH GAS PRICES WILL SPURE ALTERATIVE R&D AT THE EXPENCE OF THE MASSES, WHO ARE FORCED TO PAY HIGH FUEL PRICES UNTIL ALTERNITIVES COME ON LINE.

  • wild bill

    Most people dont care about being green but they do care about the price of fuel. IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GET OFF OF OIL, YOU NEED AN EV THAT LOOKS CONVENTIONAL,AND ACTS CONVENTIONAL. SIZE, SPEED, AND RANGE. NOT MOST OF THE FAR OUT DESIGNS THAT MAKE A VW BUG LOOK CONVENTIONAL, AND GOES 50 MPH WITH A RANGE OF 120 MILES. BY THE WAY, MAYBE WE SHOULD BLAME THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR HIGH OIL PRICES. OUR GOV. REPS WHO STOPED US FROM DRILING, OR BUILDING NUCULAR POWER PLANTS,OR REFINERS. FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS. HIGH GAS PRICES WILL SPURE ALTERATIVE R&D AT THE EXPENCE OF THE MASSES, WHO ARE FORCED TO PAY HIGH FUEL PRICES UNTIL ALTERNITIVES COME ON LINE.

  • Jack

    I would definately buy a car that would be fuel efficient, or electric for that matter, but no car manufacturer makes these for tall people. I can not fit in anything I would want to save gas with. These manufacturers need to take into account that many Americans are much taller then people in other parts of the world!

  • Jack

    I would definately buy a car that would be fuel efficient, or electric for that matter, but no car manufacturer makes these for tall people. I can not fit in anything I would want to save gas with. These manufacturers need to take into account that many Americans are much taller then people in other parts of the world!

  • http://none don mayfield

    electrics will be pluged in the evenings and nights when power plants, are basicly not being run hard so no new plants would be needed as some think.

  • Rob

    For what it is worth…For the past 10-15 years I have bought luxury or near luxury cars, my present car being a ’06 Acura RL, gets about 18-19 miles combined driving and it’s costing me about $300/month to drive to work….as soon as there is a viable electric car I am selling my RL and buying the electric. I don’t care what it looks like as long as I do not have to fill up with gas. I am fed up with the oil producers, refiners and speculators…I am going to buy electric and fill up with solar panels and tell all those oil people where to go and how to get there. I never thought I would give up my vanity but I have and it is here to stay.

  • Rob

    For what it is worth…For the past 10-15 years I have bought luxury or near luxury cars, my present car being a ’06 Acura RL, gets about 18-19 miles combined driving and it’s costing me about $300/month to drive to work….as soon as there is a viable electric car I am selling my RL and buying the electric. I don’t care what it looks like as long as I do not have to fill up with gas. I am fed up with the oil producers, refiners and speculators…I am going to buy electric and fill up with solar panels and tell all those oil people where to go and how to get there. I never thought I would give up my vanity but I have and it is here to stay.

  • VX boy

    Getting closer but still no cigar. Think I’ll hold onto my Civic VX for a few more years… Buy for $4K and gets 50mpg. No better value than that yet.

  • VX boy

    Getting closer but still no cigar. Think I’ll hold onto my Civic VX for a few more years… Buy for $4K and gets 50mpg. No better value than that yet.

  • Dustin

    They have already got the technology to quickly charge the battery (12 minutes) also if they used regenitive braking that would help a lot. Theres a lot more that can be done; using HHO technology to extend the mileage of your current vehichle and then if you couple that with either CNG or Biofuel….

  • Dustin

    They have already got the technology to quickly charge the battery (12 minutes) also if they used regenitive braking that would help a lot. Theres a lot more that can be done; using HHO technology to extend the mileage of your current vehichle and then if you couple that with either CNG or Biofuel….

  • Robert

    I couldn’t live with 65mph. I would need 80 or 90. I would sacrifice distance for speed as my commute is only 32miles round trip to work each day.

    I wonder if they would let you adjust such things. It would be nice to choose, “Sport” when you get in to have more power overall and lose distance or “Economy” for the longer distance and slower top speed.

  • Robert

    I couldn’t live with 65mph. I would need 80 or 90. I would sacrifice distance for speed as my commute is only 32miles round trip to work each day.

    I wonder if they would let you adjust such things. It would be nice to choose, “Sport” when you get in to have more power overall and lose distance or “Economy” for the longer distance and slower top speed.

  • Lawrence Brown

    If they come to Oklahoma I would like a dealership. This area of the country would really be ideal for electric cars.

  • Lawrence Brown

    If they come to Oklahoma I would like a dealership. This area of the country would really be ideal for electric cars.

  • papa rick

    I can’t believe some of these complaints. Bridges are what crosses you from one place to another and all some of these people can complain about is that it’s not pretty enough or efficient enough yet. Please it’s better than what we currently have and how it’s draining our ecomony. Do we understand what evolution means?

  • papa rick

    I can’t believe some of these complaints. Bridges are what crosses you from one place to another and all some of these people can complain about is that it’s not pretty enough or efficient enough yet. Please it’s better than what we currently have and how it’s draining our ecomony. Do we understand what evolution means?

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  • http://www.worldbeauty.tv Peter IA Powell

    Its time for all the “oil men” and other fossil fuel billionaires to put up or get out the way!

    Theres enough investment funding between the oil cos and the other street in Silicon Valley ($$$) to get the new battery tech going for autos and buses.”Eveready lets GO” The Lithium batteries now are a big jump and they can be simultaneously recharged with generators that use the mechanical turning of wheels to create a charge – along with solar skin (The entire car should be made of solar (panel) skin. Lets do it We America for Gods Sake!!

    Peter Powell (Academy Award winning DP , Producer and Director)

  • http://www.worldbeauty.tv Peter IA Powell

    Its time for all the “oil men” and other fossil fuel billionaires to put up or get out the way!

    Theres enough investment funding between the oil cos and the other street in Silicon Valley ($$$) to get the new battery tech going for autos and buses.”Eveready lets GO” The Lithium batteries now are a big jump and they can be simultaneously recharged with generators that use the mechanical turning of wheels to create a charge – along with solar skin (The entire car should be made of solar (panel) skin. Lets do it We America for Gods Sake!!

    Peter Powell (Academy Award winning DP , Producer and Director)

  • http://www.BGelectricCars.com Barry Bernsten

    Please check out the affordable EV ($15,995), assembled in the USA. A real 4 door hatch back for 5 passengers made of steel (NOT PLASTIC). All the luxuries/features we are use to (ie. air conditioning, sunroof, AM/FM/CD,dual airbags, etc. etc.)

    http://www.BGelectricCars.com

  • http://www.BGelectricCars.com Barry Bernsten

    Please check out the affordable EV ($15,995), assembled in the USA. A real 4 door hatch back for 5 passengers made of steel (NOT PLASTIC). All the luxuries/features we are use to (ie. air conditioning, sunroof, AM/FM/CD,dual airbags, etc. etc.)

    http://www.BGelectricCars.com

  • http://www.electriccarblogging.com Paul

    The future is electric cars and with battery life improving it will only get better.

  • http://www.electriccarblogging.com Paul

    The future is electric cars and with battery life improving it will only get better.

  • fat dumb and happy

    OK. I drive a hemi, I tow my over powered boat, I tow my camper all around the country, I tow my jet ski’s, I tow my large tractor I bought just to cut my grass on the several different properties I own, I tow my Harley’s around because my soft arse will not last long in the seat. My wife drives a Navagator. I’m rich and I live in a free country, you poor people complaining about us Americans with our great big SUV’s can take those complaints and shove them into your 1.2 liter tanks. I gave $25,000.00 to the red cross last year. I gave $10,000.00 to my church to re-do thier sports fields on top on my ten percent to Jesus and sponsored five mission trips last year. I donated thousands to The boys and girls clubs and the United Way last year and matched funds with the local Cops for Kids Christmas shopping experience. Gosh it’s nice to live in a free country… Oh, wasting fuel in my SUV…Hmmmmm… Tell you what, I’ll give away one of my gas powered EZGO’s and buy an elecric one and maybe that will help your cause… and I’ll kepp my large, comfortable vehicles, maybe I’ll run into you on the road one day… See ya.

  • fat dumb and happy

    OK. I drive a hemi, I tow my over powered boat, I tow my camper all around the country, I tow my jet ski’s, I tow my large tractor I bought just to cut my grass on the several different properties I own, I tow my Harley’s around because my soft arse will not last long in the seat. My wife drives a Navagator. I’m rich and I live in a free country, you poor people complaining about us Americans with our great big SUV’s can take those complaints and shove them into your 1.2 liter tanks. I gave $25,000.00 to the red cross last year. I gave $10,000.00 to my church to re-do thier sports fields on top on my ten percent to Jesus and sponsored five mission trips last year. I donated thousands to The boys and girls clubs and the United Way last year and matched funds with the local Cops for Kids Christmas shopping experience. Gosh it’s nice to live in a free country… Oh, wasting fuel in my SUV…Hmmmmm… Tell you what, I’ll give away one of my gas powered EZGO’s and buy an elecric one and maybe that will help your cause… and I’ll kepp my large, comfortable vehicles, maybe I’ll run into you on the road one day… See ya.

  • fat dumb and happy

    P.S. you guys go green, stick it to the man… Just dont get run over…

    Some of you are considering buying a electric car that will not go over 25mph… Oh my, that car salesman was right when he said, “there’s a dumb ass for every seat on the lot”.

  • fat dumb and happy

    P.S. you guys go green, stick it to the man… Just dont get run over…

    Some of you are considering buying a electric car that will not go over 25mph… Oh my, that car salesman was right when he said, “there’s a dumb ass for every seat on the lot”.

  • Jim

    After reading 2 pages of comments, I have come to the conclusion that only about half of you have half of a brain.

  • Jim

    After reading 2 pages of comments, I have come to the conclusion that only about half of you have half of a brain.

  • lorraine

    I think we should just go back to the horse and carriage!!!

  • lorraine

    I think we should just go back to the horse and carriage!!!

  • Greg

    To fix the problem of limited range, what we need are refueling trucks like the army has refueling airplanes. The trucks would drive along the road all day, and then when you run low on power, you drive up next to the truck and plug your car into one of the jacks on the side of the truck.

    Also, if more things were downhill from other things, then we could use regenerative braking a lot more–that’s what we should be working on, putting things downhill.

    Also, obviously if we had conveyor belt roads, then we wouldn’t have to use any energy at all, we just drive our car onto the conveyor belt road, then park it until it reaches our destination. That way, also, we could get out and talk to other motorists while we’re waiting to arrive.

  • Greg

    To fix the problem of limited range, what we need are refueling trucks like the army has refueling airplanes. The trucks would drive along the road all day, and then when you run low on power, you drive up next to the truck and plug your car into one of the jacks on the side of the truck.

    Also, if more things were downhill from other things, then we could use regenerative braking a lot more–that’s what we should be working on, putting things downhill.

    Also, obviously if we had conveyor belt roads, then we wouldn’t have to use any energy at all, we just drive our car onto the conveyor belt road, then park it until it reaches our destination. That way, also, we could get out and talk to other motorists while we’re waiting to arrive.

  • shashi

    its very good idea.but expensive….try reducing costs……

  • shashi

    its very good idea.but expensive….try reducing costs……

  • http://www.twincityflowers.com Dale Becker

    Why not add photo cells to the roof and hood

    to help maintain battery life & charge batteries

    while idle? Electric cells are becoming cheaper &

    more effective every day (Nano-Electric)

  • http://www.twincityflowers.com Dale Becker

    Why not add photo cells to the roof and hood

    to help maintain battery life & charge batteries

    while idle? Electric cells are becoming cheaper &

    more effective every day (Nano-Electric)

  • Bill Craver

    Why do americans have to be so greedy,the cost of most things are for the rich. Google should have opted to manufacture EVs! for a fair price

  • Bill Craver

    Why do americans have to be so greedy,the cost of most things are for the rich. Google should have opted to manufacture EVs! for a fair price

  • dlk2008

    So I saw a GEM car in town the other day and it piqued my interest in the progression of elecric vehicles. I started researching EVs and while I am optimistic we eventually can phase out gasoline as a fuel source, I am not optimistic that it will occur anytime soon. So, just like any new technology, I will wait for the technology to become more advanced and the cost become more affordable.

    I do however have a simple logistics question spurred from my engineering mind. I read in many posts, “just plug it in.” I work with computer data centers and if I had a dollar for every time someone conveniently forgot to take the power receptacle design into consideration (physical placement, how many on a single breaker line, how many amps, etc.), I could afford an electric car. So what is the question you ask? Exactly WHERE are you going to plug your vehicle in?

    Most homes have an external 110 Volt outside the house in the front. You may need to run one of those fancy, attractive orange extension cords to get to it depending on where you park your car, but it is still doable. What about the people who live in apartment complexes and have to park half a mile away depending on when you get home?

    The simple placement of your vehicle needs to be taken into consideration. Have any of you ever left your lights on and needed a jump? At least some magic could be worked to try and position another car to jump your battery, but even then that can be a royal pain in the butt. Even if you had a portable power source to recharge your battery, how long would it take to get enough charge to get you home? 2 hours? 4 hours?

    Also, I love the comment about going to work and plugging in. How are you going to plug in your car in a parking lot when you are parked 200 parking spaces away from the nearest external plug? Is your work even going to mind that they are paying $5 a day per car that is plugged into their power? Let’s say there are 10 people at your work that own EVs and you depend on a recharge at work to get home? Are you going to put a power bar outside to accomodate all 10? What if there are no receptacles outside…are you going to run an extension cord inside to the nearest power? What is that circuit is already overloaded and the cleaning crew plugs in the vacuum cleaner and kills the circuit?

    There are a lot of practical questions that need to be answered before you can just assume that you can plug your car in anywhere if you lose a charge in your EV. At least with gas you can put in a gallon or two and get 40-60 miles up the road.

    This about it…

  • dlk2008

    So I saw a GEM car in town the other day and it piqued my interest in the progression of elecric vehicles. I started researching EVs and while I am optimistic we eventually can phase out gasoline as a fuel source, I am not optimistic that it will occur anytime soon. So, just like any new technology, I will wait for the technology to become more advanced and the cost become more affordable.

    I do however have a simple logistics question spurred from my engineering mind. I read in many posts, “just plug it in.” I work with computer data centers and if I had a dollar for every time someone conveniently forgot to take the power receptacle design into consideration (physical placement, how many on a single breaker line, how many amps, etc.), I could afford an electric car. So what is the question you ask? Exactly WHERE are you going to plug your vehicle in?

    Most homes have an external 110 Volt outside the house in the front. You may need to run one of those fancy, attractive orange extension cords to get to it depending on where you park your car, but it is still doable. What about the people who live in apartment complexes and have to park half a mile away depending on when you get home?

    The simple placement of your vehicle needs to be taken into consideration. Have any of you ever left your lights on and needed a jump? At least some magic could be worked to try and position another car to jump your battery, but even then that can be a royal pain in the butt. Even if you had a portable power source to recharge your battery, how long would it take to get enough charge to get you home? 2 hours? 4 hours?

    Also, I love the comment about going to work and plugging in. How are you going to plug in your car in a parking lot when you are parked 200 parking spaces away from the nearest external plug? Is your work even going to mind that they are paying $5 a day per car that is plugged into their power? Let’s say there are 10 people at your work that own EVs and you depend on a recharge at work to get home? Are you going to put a power bar outside to accomodate all 10? What if there are no receptacles outside…are you going to run an extension cord inside to the nearest power? What is that circuit is already overloaded and the cleaning crew plugs in the vacuum cleaner and kills the circuit?

    There are a lot of practical questions that need to be answered before you can just assume that you can plug your car in anywhere if you lose a charge in your EV. At least with gas you can put in a gallon or two and get 40-60 miles up the road.

    This about it…

  • Mike

    The Chevy VOLT looks promising, if they can get the battery design perfected. However, what we need is a device that will take the place of the engine that runs the generator, and eliminate the battery rack altogether. I am currently working on the design for a prototype of just such a device. If it works the way I expect it to, I’ll either end up richer that Bill Gates, or dead in a ditch. Wish me luck!

  • Mike

    The Chevy VOLT looks promising, if they can get the battery design perfected. However, what we need is a device that will take the place of the engine that runs the generator, and eliminate the battery rack altogether. I am currently working on the design for a prototype of just such a device. If it works the way I expect it to, I’ll either end up richer that Bill Gates, or dead in a ditch. Wish me luck!

  • Brandon

    interesting said on April 24th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    This is very cool although I think the mileage sucks for such a price. Poor Ford, they can’t get anything right

    Ford sold this to the Norwegian’s so it isn’t that they didn’t get it right they just gave up to early in the game. For those of you that want to see an more stylish EV check out Phoenix EV’s SUV and SUT at

    http://www.phoenixmotorcars.com/.

  • Brandon

    interesting said on April 24th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    This is very cool although I think the mileage sucks for such a price. Poor Ford, they can’t get anything right

    Ford sold this to the Norwegian’s so it isn’t that they didn’t get it right they just gave up to early in the game. For those of you that want to see an more stylish EV check out Phoenix EV’s SUV and SUT at

    http://www.phoenixmotorcars.com/.

  • http://aol John Wilfeard

    With these electric cars, why cant the batteries be charged while their being driven, like in regular cars. With either alternators, or a turbine set-up that catches the wind as you drive spins the alternator or generator to recharge the battery? Even a car that runs on gas to accelorate then switches to elecoric for cruising.

  • innovation and the customer

    Electric cars are an innovation, being retrofit into the roles ICE cars have carved out. There are many solutions to the polution caused by ICE cars, and not all of them need to be solved by replacing the ICE car with an electric one. Smaller engines are a start, bikes, e-bikes, even scooters are personal solutions. Mass transit systems need to be developed and improved in many car-dominant cities. The American idea of “style” needs to be re-invented as far as car styling goes. Bigger and louder may be the “american” way, but it’s not practical anymore. Buying a car based on “good MPG” should no longer be enough. I heard a commercial last night talking about the great MPG of an SUV… 20 MPG. good? really? The Vehical to Grid system is a great way to solve some problems of brown-outs, etc. and the oportunity to build solar and wind farms should be exciting the average american, an opportunity to create a middle class again. The power grid needs overhaul, so, let’s do it! Pay some taxes, get a job, and get it done. Sorry the rambling.

  • innovation and the customer

    Electric cars are an innovation, being retrofit into the roles ICE cars have carved out. There are many solutions to the polution caused by ICE cars, and not all of them need to be solved by replacing the ICE car with an electric one. Smaller engines are a start, bikes, e-bikes, even scooters are personal solutions. Mass transit systems need to be developed and improved in many car-dominant cities. The American idea of “style” needs to be re-invented as far as car styling goes. Bigger and louder may be the “american” way, but it’s not practical anymore. Buying a car based on “good MPG” should no longer be enough. I heard a commercial last night talking about the great MPG of an SUV… 20 MPG. good? really? The Vehical to Grid system is a great way to solve some problems of brown-outs, etc. and the oportunity to build solar and wind farms should be exciting the average american, an opportunity to create a middle class again. The power grid needs overhaul, so, let’s do it! Pay some taxes, get a job, and get it done. Sorry the rambling.

  • http://www.safetychoice.com Stefan Schreier

    What people forget is that technology is not static. Tomorrow’s electric cars will have much better performance than today’s. Given the research that is going on now and the advances we have already seen, it is likely that in a few years electric cars will have the same performance as gasoline powered cars. Gas stations will become charging stations and it will take about the same time for a full recharge as it now takes you to fill your tank. The only difference you will see is that instead of a nozzle at the end of the hose you will see an electric plug, and instead of putting it in the filler pipe you will plug it into a fitting on the side of your car.

  • http://www.safetychoice.com Stefan Schreier

    What people forget is that technology is not static. Tomorrow’s electric cars will have much better performance than today’s. Given the research that is going on now and the advances we have already seen, it is likely that in a few years electric cars will have the same performance as gasoline powered cars. Gas stations will become charging stations and it will take about the same time for a full recharge as it now takes you to fill your tank. The only difference you will see is that instead of a nozzle at the end of the hose you will see an electric plug, and instead of putting it in the filler pipe you will plug it into a fitting on the side of your car.

  • KAY

    The problem with electric is finding a place to plug it in AFTER you leave home. We rented an electric car/cart in Key West, and we had to wait in line for a plug to charge it. One day we couldn’t drive at all because there weren’t enough plugs for the carts. Solar plug-in posts or backup is needed, and the smaller cylinders is also helpful.

  • KAY

    The problem with electric is finding a place to plug it in AFTER you leave home. We rented an electric car/cart in Key West, and we had to wait in line for a plug to charge it. One day we couldn’t drive at all because there weren’t enough plugs for the carts. Solar plug-in posts or backup is needed, and the smaller cylinders is also helpful.

  • Dave

    This is a start in the right direction. Aggreed that the distance limitation is a problem. There are some work arounds to this issue and the battery technology is catching up with the demand for high power, small packaged batteries. Solar energy technology is getting much better. Soon we could have “service Stations” selling interchangable electric batteries like gas taking our discharged batteries in exchange. The “Service Stations” could use solar panels, wind energy and other renewable resources to recharge the discharged batteries for the next customers.

    All sounds very promising. This could get rid of our dependance on oil as a nation and give us more money in our pockets as individuals. An electric car would be a good start.

  • Dave

    This is a start in the right direction. Aggreed that the distance limitation is a problem. There are some work arounds to this issue and the battery technology is catching up with the demand for high power, small packaged batteries. Solar energy technology is getting much better. Soon we could have “service Stations” selling interchangable electric batteries like gas taking our discharged batteries in exchange. The “Service Stations” could use solar panels, wind energy and other renewable resources to recharge the discharged batteries for the next customers.

    All sounds very promising. This could get rid of our dependance on oil as a nation and give us more money in our pockets as individuals. An electric car would be a good start.

  • Mark

    Electric car top speed

    Electric cars top speed is not “65 MPH” as someone posted here.

    There are electric cars that go well over 100 MPH and the current electric powered land speed record for a car is 245 MPH

    As with gasoline powered cars, speed is a function of Power, Gearing, Weight, etc. There is not a limit on electric cars do to the fact that they have an electric power plant.

    Now certain cars may have speed limits to increase mileage (Just as in a gasoline powered vehicle, the faster you go, the more energy it requires and the less distance you will be able to travel for a given amount of fuel).

  • Mark

    Electric car top speed

    Electric cars top speed is not “65 MPH” as someone posted here.

    There are electric cars that go well over 100 MPH and the current electric powered land speed record for a car is 245 MPH

    As with gasoline powered cars, speed is a function of Power, Gearing, Weight, etc. There is not a limit on electric cars do to the fact that they have an electric power plant.

    Now certain cars may have speed limits to increase mileage (Just as in a gasoline powered vehicle, the faster you go, the more energy it requires and the less distance you will be able to travel for a given amount of fuel).

  • Karin Green

    I live in a small rural community. Since the nearest full-service “city” is a two hour drive distant and require a truck for our renovation business and electric vehicle can probably never my only vehicle but I am curious about the possibility of an electric car as the local runner. However, there is no free lunch! I came to this site looking for something I can’t find anywhere – the actual COST of using an electric car on a daily basis. How will my electric bill be affected? How much power does it take to change a battery? Might it be like running a fridge for a week, a month, a year? If we have to build more power plants to run the new electric era – are we not just shifting the problem? I will check back later to see if anyone has an answer.

  • Karin Green

    I live in a small rural community. Since the nearest full-service “city” is a two hour drive distant and require a truck for our renovation business and electric vehicle can probably never my only vehicle but I am curious about the possibility of an electric car as the local runner. However, there is no free lunch! I came to this site looking for something I can’t find anywhere – the actual COST of using an electric car on a daily basis. How will my electric bill be affected? How much power does it take to change a battery? Might it be like running a fridge for a week, a month, a year? If we have to build more power plants to run the new electric era – are we not just shifting the problem? I will check back later to see if anyone has an answer.

  • Matt Brown

    I think it’s great that a few cars are coming to market that are almost practical. Unfortunately most people who have $24000 to spend on a car will not spend it on something like this. But we don’t need one perfect solution. We need lots of solutions; different solutions that fit into different needs and lifestyles. Some people have enough money to pay a premium for a car over and above what they will ever likely save on gas, and are willing to do so. I find that my bicycle gets reasonably good gas mileage on the 15 to 30 miles I commute. I have a friend that combines roller blades, trains, and busses into an effective commuting system. Some can carpool (Thad definitely isn’t for me). What matters isn’t that one solution isn’t viable for everybody. What matters is whether or not enough people care enough about reducing dependence on foreign oil, the environment, food prices, or just the absurd price of gas, to find a way to wean themselves away from gasoline.

    By the way, electric cars on a massive scale will not help the environment much without lots and lots more nuclear power plants.

  • Matt Brown

    I think it’s great that a few cars are coming to market that are almost practical. Unfortunately most people who have $24000 to spend on a car will not spend it on something like this. But we don’t need one perfect solution. We need lots of solutions; different solutions that fit into different needs and lifestyles. Some people have enough money to pay a premium for a car over and above what they will ever likely save on gas, and are willing to do so. I find that my bicycle gets reasonably good gas mileage on the 15 to 30 miles I commute. I have a friend that combines roller blades, trains, and busses into an effective commuting system. Some can carpool (Thad definitely isn’t for me). What matters isn’t that one solution isn’t viable for everybody. What matters is whether or not enough people care enough about reducing dependence on foreign oil, the environment, food prices, or just the absurd price of gas, to find a way to wean themselves away from gasoline.

    By the way, electric cars on a massive scale will not help the environment much without lots and lots more nuclear power plants.

  • jeff847

    Can’t wait!!! Some places of employment are already offering employees the ability to charge at work!!!

    Let’s give s “shout-out” to the West Coast!!! Innovative, forward-thinking, staying at the vanguard of emerging markets!!!

  • jeff847

    Can’t wait!!! Some places of employment are already offering employees the ability to charge at work!!!

    Let’s give s “shout-out” to the West Coast!!! Innovative, forward-thinking, staying at the vanguard of emerging markets!!!

  • Laurie

    Sometimes it is not easy for me to admit that I am apart of the American society whose wastefullness and destructive habits are discusting. Yes I agree in part with what you say, but to generalize the American society as a whole to be a peopole with no reguard for future generation of our entire planet is absurd, sadly this is our majority. But I wish to change and to see change in my generation, so that this earth would be held to a higher regaurd. I’m not technologically savvy but I know I will do whatever I can to purchase a vehicle of this superior degree. Do not stereotype americans only by what you hear… there are some of us who really do care, and are striving to make a difference.

    Back to the subject at hand I think this vehicle is going to be an amazing tool for the people of today, my only comment is that I agree with what dean said about renewable solar energy… that’s a great idea!

  • Laurie

    Sometimes it is not easy for me to admit that I am apart of the American society whose wastefullness and destructive habits are discusting. Yes I agree in part with what you say, but to generalize the American society as a whole to be a peopole with no reguard for future generation of our entire planet is absurd, sadly this is our majority. But I wish to change and to see change in my generation, so that this earth would be held to a higher regaurd. I’m not technologically savvy but I know I will do whatever I can to purchase a vehicle of this superior degree. Do not stereotype americans only by what you hear… there are some of us who really do care, and are striving to make a difference.

    Back to the subject at hand I think this vehicle is going to be an amazing tool for the people of today, my only comment is that I agree with what dean said about renewable solar energy… that’s a great idea!

  • Greed from Green

    It doesn’t matter if it’s electric or gas, eventually it will all cost the same! As soon as the demand goes up for the electric car, you can bet your last dollar that the electric companies are going to see “green” and lots of it. Until a company comes up with a car that can recharge itself while on the-go and doesn’t plug in or fill-up, and I mean completely wean us off all fossil fuels then I will stick to the staus-quo!

  • Greed from Green

    It doesn’t matter if it’s electric or gas, eventually it will all cost the same! As soon as the demand goes up for the electric car, you can bet your last dollar that the electric companies are going to see “green” and lots of it. Until a company comes up with a car that can recharge itself while on the-go and doesn’t plug in or fill-up, and I mean completely wean us off all fossil fuels then I will stick to the staus-quo!

  • http://www.solarpioneers.com SOLARLADY

    I HAVE BUILT SEVERAL SOLAR ELECTRIC VEHICLES INCLUDING

    A TRUCK. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ON MORE EFFICIENT

    BATTERIES. WE NEED MEN RUNNING FOR OFFICIES IN

    GOVERNMENT THAT WILL ENCOURAGE ELEC. VEHICLES AND THEN

    WATCH OUR ECONOMY TURN AROUND.

  • http://www.solarpioneers.com SOLARLADY

    I HAVE BUILT SEVERAL SOLAR ELECTRIC VEHICLES INCLUDING

    A TRUCK. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ON MORE EFFICIENT

    BATTERIES. WE NEED MEN RUNNING FOR OFFICIES IN

    GOVERNMENT THAT WILL ENCOURAGE ELEC. VEHICLES AND THEN

    WATCH OUR ECONOMY TURN AROUND.

  • TrueFire

    As Far as driving further than posted distances between charges, please stay up with the industry news. Honda has already deployed quick charge stations that can recharge lithium-ion batteries in 15 minutes! That compares well with the time spent slopping petrol into your tank. Also, with the money you save on gas (about 550.00 per month in my case) I can always call Enterprise (or others) to drop a car off at my door. Like incase I have to drive to Peru unexpectedly!

  • TrueFire

    As Far as driving further than posted distances between charges, please stay up with the industry news. Honda has already deployed quick charge stations that can recharge lithium-ion batteries in 15 minutes! That compares well with the time spent slopping petrol into your tank. Also, with the money you save on gas (about 550.00 per month in my case) I can always call Enterprise (or others) to drop a car off at my door. Like incase I have to drive to Peru unexpectedly!

  • Tam

    I love it but the drawback for me is I live in a rural area in a state where most of it is rural. We need a car that will go LONG distances. My husband drives 90 miles a day round trip to work. I drive 50 miles a day round trip to work. What about people like us? We aren’t the only ones!

    It’s costing us $560 a month in gas. His Nissan gets roughly 30 mpg and my Toyota gets 34 mpg. Good mpg on both cars for the most part but still not nearly good enough.

  • Tam

    I love it but the drawback for me is I live in a rural area in a state where most of it is rural. We need a car that will go LONG distances. My husband drives 90 miles a day round trip to work. I drive 50 miles a day round trip to work. What about people like us? We aren’t the only ones!

    It’s costing us $560 a month in gas. His Nissan gets roughly 30 mpg and my Toyota gets 34 mpg. Good mpg on both cars for the most part but still not nearly good enough.

  • Hank

    I think that the price is still to high. You will only be able to use it in the city,so that means you will have to have another car,which means more insurance and more up keep and so on.Why pay that much for something that is limited to what you can do with it.

  • Hank

    I think that the price is still to high. You will only be able to use it in the city,so that means you will have to have another car,which means more insurance and more up keep and so on.Why pay that much for something that is limited to what you can do with it.

  • Jim Knight

    A tiny short-range car that uses zero gasoline is just fine for millions of us. Many 2 car families use one car only to putter around the neighborhood. And when we start buying these puppies U.S. gasoline consumption will drop even more than in 2008. And don’t worry about electricity – almost all recharging will happen at night when utilities have plenty to spare – recharging will not mean more power plants. As for future electricity – Solar farms, wind farms, micro-turbines and fuel cells are happening right now. In ten years the grid will be very different and many of us will not even need it. Oil ran our cars for 100 years and it was the best fuel for its time; now it begins a gradual decline. That’s fine with me – and I’m from Texas.

  • Jim Knight

    A tiny short-range car that uses zero gasoline is just fine for millions of us. Many 2 car families use one car only to putter around the neighborhood. And when we start buying these puppies U.S. gasoline consumption will drop even more than in 2008. And don’t worry about electricity – almost all recharging will happen at night when utilities have plenty to spare – recharging will not mean more power plants. As for future electricity – Solar farms, wind farms, micro-turbines and fuel cells are happening right now. In ten years the grid will be very different and many of us will not even need it. Oil ran our cars for 100 years and it was the best fuel for its time; now it begins a gradual decline. That’s fine with me – and I’m from Texas.

  • http://push.pickensplan.com/group/organizers/forum/topic/show?id=2187034%3ATopic%3A494790 JT

    Good one, Dan, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

    Electric engines have a lot of instant torque, making this an ideal solution, especially for urbanites. I’d like to see how many MPG that translates to (in terms of fossil fuels) though. It needs to be pointed out that we still need to make sure that the electricity is generated in passive ways (wind, solar) otherwise we’re just moving the pollution around.

    Finally, a couple points:

    1) The oil baron’s crude prices are NOT the problem. The companies that refine and wholesale (and effectively retail) the gas are the culprit. I can readily support that claim, but let us put the blame where it belongs. That’s not in the crude producers, but the US oil companies themselves.

    2) That whole “you Americans” line is getting really stale. There are no “you Americans” any more than there are “you Europeans” (and many Europeans would find it equally offensive to be considered all the same as the Brits, or the French, or the Germans… So lay off of that.

    The U.S. citizens are not entirely blameless, but they aren’t the ones who caused this. Americans would readily have bought some of the cars sold in Europe – the 1 liter diesel Renault with its 68 mpg, for example. But Europe didn’t sell them over here. The Smartcar was also not made available to us until very recently.

    Oh, and to the homophobe who said they look “gay” and “queer”… the only odd thing about it is that you’re so fragile-ego’d that you’d equate sexual orientation with an asexual car design, and let that little … ego… of yours keep you from the fuel efficiency.

    Make yours a great day!

    JT

  • http://push.pickensplan.com/group/organizers/forum/topic/show?id=2187034%3ATopic%3A494790 JT

    Good one, Dan, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

    Electric engines have a lot of instant torque, making this an ideal solution, especially for urbanites. I’d like to see how many MPG that translates to (in terms of fossil fuels) though. It needs to be pointed out that we still need to make sure that the electricity is generated in passive ways (wind, solar) otherwise we’re just moving the pollution around.

    Finally, a couple points:

    1) The oil baron’s crude prices are NOT the problem. The companies that refine and wholesale (and effectively retail) the gas are the culprit. I can readily support that claim, but let us put the blame where it belongs. That’s not in the crude producers, but the US oil companies themselves.

    2) That whole “you Americans” line is getting really stale. There are no “you Americans” any more than there are “you Europeans” (and many Europeans would find it equally offensive to be considered all the same as the Brits, or the French, or the Germans… So lay off of that.

    The U.S. citizens are not entirely blameless, but they aren’t the ones who caused this. Americans would readily have bought some of the cars sold in Europe – the 1 liter diesel Renault with its 68 mpg, for example. But Europe didn’t sell them over here. The Smartcar was also not made available to us until very recently.

    Oh, and to the homophobe who said they look “gay” and “queer”… the only odd thing about it is that you’re so fragile-ego’d that you’d equate sexual orientation with an asexual car design, and let that little … ego… of yours keep you from the fuel efficiency.

    Make yours a great day!

    JT

  • Richard Tarrant

    Where do you come up with this oil does not belong to the American people stuff? Perhaps we should sell you our wheat for $120.00 a bushel like you do your oil. Funny huh? Let’s get real, okay? Electric cars are nice but we need to consider all facets of energy as well to include wind power for the home user and hydrogen fuel cells as well to be effective in cutting the use of fossil fuels. One needs to cut through the red tape and politics to be able to accomplish anything worthwhile at all and, if it can be done during tough times like WWII then it can be done now as well folks. There is an old apache proverb that says “It is better to have more lightning in the hand than thunder in the mouth” so lets quit talking and get busy.

    Rick Tarrant

    Lubbock, Texas

  • Richard Tarrant

    Where do you come up with this oil does not belong to the American people stuff? Perhaps we should sell you our wheat for $120.00 a bushel like you do your oil. Funny huh? Let’s get real, okay? Electric cars are nice but we need to consider all facets of energy as well to include wind power for the home user and hydrogen fuel cells as well to be effective in cutting the use of fossil fuels. One needs to cut through the red tape and politics to be able to accomplish anything worthwhile at all and, if it can be done during tough times like WWII then it can be done now as well folks. There is an old apache proverb that says “It is better to have more lightning in the hand than thunder in the mouth” so lets quit talking and get busy.

    Rick Tarrant

    Lubbock, Texas

  • http://www.economicefficiency.blogspot.com WillG

    It is great to read about electric cars and how they are coming along.

    I read a great article titled, “Electric Car Finds its Niche” at http://economicefficiency.blogspot.com/2008/08/electric-car-finds-its-niche.html

    The article spells out why electric cars in London make sense.

  • http://www.economicefficiency.blogspot.com WillG

    It is great to read about electric cars and how they are coming along.

    I read a great article titled, “Electric Car Finds its Niche” at http://economicefficiency.blogspot.com/2008/08/electric-car-finds-its-niche.html

    The article spells out why electric cars in London make sense.

  • stlwest

    I’d rather drive a Prius for that much money. But I think I’m going to hold out for the Ford Escape Plugin Hybrid if and when they release it.

    Ford decided that they would sell trucks to Americans and small cars to Europeans since Europeans have higher gas prices due to extreme taxation or whatever. I guess Ford didn’t understand that even Americans don’t have a bottomless wallet and people in the country like trucks but can’t pay for gas when the MPG hasn’t increased hardly at all over the past decade.

    Whose fault? Who cares, its a free market economy and those who provide the products that meet our needs will prosper, while others like Ford and GM will lose 8.7 billion and 15.5 billion in one quarter respectively. If you didn’t plan for high prices or do anything while prices went up you still have time to act.

    If you don’t really get impacted much by the high prices do everyone a favor and wait 6 months before rushing out to buy a super fuel efficient model so those people who really need them can get one and manufacturers can fill the current backlog.

    If you expect government to solve the problem, well maybe you should get back on the short bus because government rarely solves anything but they are damn good at creating debt.

  • stlwest

    I’d rather drive a Prius for that much money. But I think I’m going to hold out for the Ford Escape Plugin Hybrid if and when they release it.

    Ford decided that they would sell trucks to Americans and small cars to Europeans since Europeans have higher gas prices due to extreme taxation or whatever. I guess Ford didn’t understand that even Americans don’t have a bottomless wallet and people in the country like trucks but can’t pay for gas when the MPG hasn’t increased hardly at all over the past decade.

    Whose fault? Who cares, its a free market economy and those who provide the products that meet our needs will prosper, while others like Ford and GM will lose 8.7 billion and 15.5 billion in one quarter respectively. If you didn’t plan for high prices or do anything while prices went up you still have time to act.

    If you don’t really get impacted much by the high prices do everyone a favor and wait 6 months before rushing out to buy a super fuel efficient model so those people who really need them can get one and manufacturers can fill the current backlog.

    If you expect government to solve the problem, well maybe you should get back on the short bus because government rarely solves anything but they are damn good at creating debt.

  • Froike

    This technology should have been developed thirty or more years ago. Ironically, one of the most efficient means of transportaion was the Trolley Car (now know as “Light Rail”. NYC was criss crossed with trolley tracks and Electric Bus Wire Trestles….I bet the air quality was much higher in the old days….Before GM bought out the Trolley/Electric Bus Companies and replaced them with inefficient/polluting diesel buses!

    The answer to the Oil Crisis….is probably a combination of development of Electric Vehicles, Hybrids, and Flexi-fuel vehicles (which can run on Propane, Natural Gas, Alcohol, and Gasoline) Brasil had this answer years ago! Incidentally, Corn is one of the least efficient crops to produce Alcohol for fuel!!!!

  • Froike

    This technology should have been developed thirty or more years ago. Ironically, one of the most efficient means of transportaion was the Trolley Car (now know as “Light Rail”. NYC was criss crossed with trolley tracks and Electric Bus Wire Trestles….I bet the air quality was much higher in the old days….Before GM bought out the Trolley/Electric Bus Companies and replaced them with inefficient/polluting diesel buses!

    The answer to the Oil Crisis….is probably a combination of development of Electric Vehicles, Hybrids, and Flexi-fuel vehicles (which can run on Propane, Natural Gas, Alcohol, and Gasoline) Brasil had this answer years ago! Incidentally, Corn is one of the least efficient crops to produce Alcohol for fuel!!!!

  • pluginhybrid

    Plug in huybrids, such as the upcoming Chevy Volt, may be a longer term solution. Drive the car with 100% battery power, allow the user to plug in when convenient and place a small gas/diesel powered generator on board to charge the battery and allow for longer trips.

    Up to 40 miles on electric alone using lithium-ion batteries. Over 100mpg using the generator for long trips.

    This gives us the best of both worlds until technology takes the next big step in clean/renewable power.

  • pluginhybrid

    Plug in huybrids, such as the upcoming Chevy Volt, may be a longer term solution. Drive the car with 100% battery power, allow the user to plug in when convenient and place a small gas/diesel powered generator on board to charge the battery and allow for longer trips.

    Up to 40 miles on electric alone using lithium-ion batteries. Over 100mpg using the generator for long trips.

    This gives us the best of both worlds until technology takes the next big step in clean/renewable power.

  • jayy

    well well well. Interesting little car. My moms friend is thinking about getting a Tesla though. which is a great car. “frank” you are right, and you are wrong. The electric car IS able to do the job already. Just at a hefty price. Just wait for more people to start producing them, then the prices will go down to that of a normal car. Just be patient.

  • jayy

    well well well. Interesting little car. My moms friend is thinking about getting a Tesla though. which is a great car. “frank” you are right, and you are wrong. The electric car IS able to do the job already. Just at a hefty price. Just wait for more people to start producing them, then the prices will go down to that of a normal car. Just be patient.

  • Janet

    Very interested. I travel all over Maricopa county in Arizona and I and my daughter are asthmatic. I am tired of breathing dirty air that is killing my five year old. I would travel to California for this car. Any chance of the price coming down if there are enough made? When can it be ordered and how?

  • Janet

    Very interested. I travel all over Maricopa county in Arizona and I and my daughter are asthmatic. I am tired of breathing dirty air that is killing my five year old. I would travel to California for this car. Any chance of the price coming down if there are enough made? When can it be ordered and how?

  • Juan Cardenas

    We have to change. Not only are we becoming incredibly dependant on foriegn oil. But it is a finite resource of energy. Not to mention the adverse effect fuel burning has on our environment. In other words it’s a loose, loose, loose situation for all of us. On the other hand electricity is a perfect resourse. A major concern voiced by anti electric car adovocates is the possibility of a dead battery. Leading to long re-charge periods in cumbersome areas. Simple answer, equip each vehicle with a spare battery which can be recharged once a desitination is reached. Another concern is the greater draw on current electrical resources. Answer, windmill power. How much wind reserves do we have left on earth? I don’t believe there is a limit. What could have an adverse effect on our wind is our continuous disregard for our environment. But if we start now and change to cleaner sources of energy we can maintain a healthy state for our environment. Enabling us to use its precious resources for a long time to come. In short electricity provides us with a win win win situation.

  • Juan Cardenas

    We have to change. Not only are we becoming incredibly dependant on foriegn oil. But it is a finite resource of energy. Not to mention the adverse effect fuel burning has on our environment. In other words it’s a loose, loose, loose situation for all of us. On the other hand electricity is a perfect resourse. A major concern voiced by anti electric car adovocates is the possibility of a dead battery. Leading to long re-charge periods in cumbersome areas. Simple answer, equip each vehicle with a spare battery which can be recharged once a desitination is reached. Another concern is the greater draw on current electrical resources. Answer, windmill power. How much wind reserves do we have left on earth? I don’t believe there is a limit. What could have an adverse effect on our wind is our continuous disregard for our environment. But if we start now and change to cleaner sources of energy we can maintain a healthy state for our environment. Enabling us to use its precious resources for a long time to come. In short electricity provides us with a win win win situation.

  • Nunya Bidness

    So, we need to rebuild the old and decaying nuclear power plants that are already in operation. New nuclear power plants are now on drawing boards to be built in the next two decades. OH, GOODY! Let’s keep it GREEN!

    So where do we bury the next load of nuclear poop?

    The leftover nuclear crud that is generated by these GREEN power plants can’t be buried deep enough. The stuff that’s being buried now is way the hell under a mountain in hopes that it doesn’t leak into the drinking water or a siesmic event doesn’t push it back to the surface. Oh, it’s supposed to be in special containers that can be hit by a train and never leak. Same thing as the nuclear power plants. Can you spell Chernoble (obviously I can’t). Three mile Island. The point is that reality happens. People don’t want to think about what may happen later. People only want a quick fix. People only want whatever problem to go away until after their death. That way if something does go wrong their children will be brilliant enough to fix it. YEAH, Right! Children from the same gene pool.

    Same thing for this gas crisis. Fix it now! Oh, wait. Gas prices are coming down. I can continue to drive my SUX 6000 until I need a bigger one. Same thing happened back in the ’70’s. People couldn’t see it then, people sure as hell can’t see it now.

    YOU…are the children of those who were in the 1970’s gas crisis.

    Anything been accomplished to cure the problem?

  • Nunya Bidness

    So, we need to rebuild the old and decaying nuclear power plants that are already in operation. New nuclear power plants are now on drawing boards to be built in the next two decades. OH, GOODY! Let’s keep it GREEN!

    So where do we bury the next load of nuclear poop?

    The leftover nuclear crud that is generated by these GREEN power plants can’t be buried deep enough. The stuff that’s being buried now is way the hell under a mountain in hopes that it doesn’t leak into the drinking water or a siesmic event doesn’t push it back to the surface. Oh, it’s supposed to be in special containers that can be hit by a train and never leak. Same thing as the nuclear power plants. Can you spell Chernoble (obviously I can’t). Three mile Island. The point is that reality happens. People don’t want to think about what may happen later. People only want a quick fix. People only want whatever problem to go away until after their death. That way if something does go wrong their children will be brilliant enough to fix it. YEAH, Right! Children from the same gene pool.

    Same thing for this gas crisis. Fix it now! Oh, wait. Gas prices are coming down. I can continue to drive my SUX 6000 until I need a bigger one. Same thing happened back in the ’70’s. People couldn’t see it then, people sure as hell can’t see it now.

    YOU…are the children of those who were in the 1970’s gas crisis.

    Anything been accomplished to cure the problem?

  • Roanoke

    I’ve never seen an estimate as to the cost of charging an electric car. Can someone direct me to a reference?

  • Roanoke

    I’ve never seen an estimate as to the cost of charging an electric car. Can someone direct me to a reference?

  • Nunya Bidness
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  • superchunk

    haha at those of you worrying about plugging them in and long distances…

    Read more about the EV coming out in the next 2yrs. Most have 100mi+ ranges some are approaching 300mi. Some take as little as 10-20min to fully charge. Most of the time that won’t matter.

    How often do you drive those 100mi+ distances? I bet a handful of times a year. These cars are perfect for 95% of your driving to and from work. Then, like your cellphone, you plug it in when you get home and don’t even worry about it.

    Do any of you know how long it takes to fully charge your cell phone? I bet you don’t without looking it up. Why? Because you don’t worry about it. You use it all day, plug it in at night and that’s it. Same thing here.

    Plus, the push on the Electric grid for EV’s are tiny compared to the existing crunch of oil needs. Not to mention how many regularly maintained parts will be unneeded once these hit the road.

    I for one refuse to buy a car until I can buy an EV and based on what Tesla and Phoenix and a few others are showing that should be easily done by 2010.

  • superchunk

    haha at those of you worrying about plugging them in and long distances…

    Read more about the EV coming out in the next 2yrs. Most have 100mi+ ranges some are approaching 300mi. Some take as little as 10-20min to fully charge. Most of the time that won’t matter.

    How often do you drive those 100mi+ distances? I bet a handful of times a year. These cars are perfect for 95% of your driving to and from work. Then, like your cellphone, you plug it in when you get home and don’t even worry about it.

    Do any of you know how long it takes to fully charge your cell phone? I bet you don’t without looking it up. Why? Because you don’t worry about it. You use it all day, plug it in at night and that’s it. Same thing here.

    Plus, the push on the Electric grid for EV’s are tiny compared to the existing crunch of oil needs. Not to mention how many regularly maintained parts will be unneeded once these hit the road.

    I for one refuse to buy a car until I can buy an EV and based on what Tesla and Phoenix and a few others are showing that should be easily done by 2010.

  • remy fransen

    A great idea. We live in a torrid climate. Can they be air conditioned?

  • remy fransen

    A great idea. We live in a torrid climate. Can they be air conditioned?

  • http://yahoo fran

    I can’t wait to get my hands on one!

  • Tom

    I think the world has forgotten exactly what “affordable” means. Just because someone will give me a loan for 20K to buy one of these things doesn’t mean I can afford it. I make a pretty good salary, but there’s no way I’m going to pay that much money for a car this size that goes the distance reported. There’s no way it costs that much to produce it. I think 10K is a lot more afforadable and reasonable. Really, when it comes down to whether I’m going to buy a 20K car or be able to afford my weekly trips to the farmer’s market and food co-op, the food’s gonna win, simply because I can’t eat my car.

  • Tom

    I think the world has forgotten exactly what “affordable” means. Just because someone will give me a loan for 20K to buy one of these things doesn’t mean I can afford it. I make a pretty good salary, but there’s no way I’m going to pay that much money for a car this size that goes the distance reported. There’s no way it costs that much to produce it. I think 10K is a lot more afforadable and reasonable. Really, when it comes down to whether I’m going to buy a 20K car or be able to afford my weekly trips to the farmer’s market and food co-op, the food’s gonna win, simply because I can’t eat my car.

  • Bryon

    I think the design of the car could be easily modified so that the battery could be robotically swapped out for a fully charged battery at a filling station in a matter of minutes. So, you could easily have your spontaneous cross-country trips. You would still have to stop more often to tend to the car, but a rest every 2 hours is desirable on a road trip anyway.

    BTW, with this car, you won’t need a rainbow bumper sticker on the back.

  • Bryon

    I think the design of the car could be easily modified so that the battery could be robotically swapped out for a fully charged battery at a filling station in a matter of minutes. So, you could easily have your spontaneous cross-country trips. You would still have to stop more often to tend to the car, but a rest every 2 hours is desirable on a road trip anyway.

    BTW, with this car, you won’t need a rainbow bumper sticker on the back.

  • DJ Adams

    I’ve seen, on a couple of TV magazine shows, where relatively inexperienced individuals have transformed old, used American cars that had blown gas engines into electric cars for something considerably less than ten thousand dollars.

    I don’t understand why these individuals and many more like them aren’t doing this and selling them to the general public. I’ll bet if you parked say a used, converted Chevy Cavalier on the street or in a parking lot with a sign on it saying “For Sale, Electric Car Conversion,” it would create tremendous attention and quite a few sales. I can see used car lots full of converted cars.

    Take a used car, convert it to electric, put it into excellent mechanical shape, and sell it to average people for a truly reasonable price. What a concept!

  • DJ Adams

    I’ve seen, on a couple of TV magazine shows, where relatively inexperienced individuals have transformed old, used American cars that had blown gas engines into electric cars for something considerably less than ten thousand dollars.

    I don’t understand why these individuals and many more like them aren’t doing this and selling them to the general public. I’ll bet if you parked say a used, converted Chevy Cavalier on the street or in a parking lot with a sign on it saying “For Sale, Electric Car Conversion,” it would create tremendous attention and quite a few sales. I can see used car lots full of converted cars.

    Take a used car, convert it to electric, put it into excellent mechanical shape, and sell it to average people for a truly reasonable price. What a concept!

  • Randy

    We should follow Israels idea. They are settimg up battery exchange stations throughout the country where you simply switch battery packs rather than fill up with gas. This is similar to a cell phone contract and you can switch with your battery provider at that specific “station”. This allows for long trips without worry.

  • Randy

    We should follow Israels idea. They are settimg up battery exchange stations throughout the country where you simply switch battery packs rather than fill up with gas. This is similar to a cell phone contract and you can switch with your battery provider at that specific “station”. This allows for long trips without worry.

  • Steve Lenz

    Why can’t the motion of the drive train be hooked up to an alternator to maintain battery charge for extended distances?

  • Steve Lenz

    Why can’t the motion of the drive train be hooked up to an alternator to maintain battery charge for extended distances?

  • mel

    I just read on the Th!nk website that the car will cost more like 31k. And it’s not made out of 95 percent recycled materials, it IS 95 percent recyclable and made out of 16 percent recycled material. still super cool though. can’t wait until 2010 for all these great new cars!!!

  • mel

    I just read on the Th!nk website that the car will cost more like 31k. And it’s not made out of 95 percent recycled materials, it IS 95 percent recyclable and made out of 16 percent recycled material. still super cool though. can’t wait until 2010 for all these great new cars!!!

  • Love Sporty Cars

    This thing just looks stupid. When I see it I will most certainly LMFAO.

  • Love Sporty Cars

    This thing just looks stupid. When I see it I will most certainly LMFAO.

  • http://www.AdvancedPowerWashing.net Elijah Phillips – (Advanced Po

    I saw a Porsche 944 EV with a ICE powered trailer for long trips.

  • http://www.AdvancedPowerWashing.net Elijah Phillips – (Advanced Power Washing)

    I saw a Porsche 944 EV with a ICE powered trailer for long trips.

  • David Boshart

    I want one! I will buy one tomorrow if someone will tell me where. I will fly there and pay cash.

  • David Boshart

    I want one! I will buy one tomorrow if someone will tell me where. I will fly there and pay cash.

  • Steve

    I woul like to know how many watts the charger takes so i can figure out cost of driving, also how long a battery lasts and replacement costs. If anyone knows please let me know. thank you. as far as the concept goes i think it is a great one, and a great start to make our society more eco-friendly. I think many people are going to find this vehicle very usefull. I have a 2005 suv with little miles on it, and i only drive it for pulling a trailer. I mostly drive a 2002 ford focus.

  • Steve

    I woul like to know how many watts the charger takes so i can figure out cost of driving, also how long a battery lasts and replacement costs. If anyone knows please let me know. thank you. as far as the concept goes i think it is a great one, and a great start to make our society more eco-friendly. I think many people are going to find this vehicle very usefull. I have a 2005 suv with little miles on it, and i only drive it for pulling a trailer. I mostly drive a 2002 ford focus.

  • Shannon

    My main concern is the safety of these cars. They look like death traps. I have small children. First of all, my family would never fit in one of these. But, secondly, I would never drive on a major highway in one. Have they performed crash tests on these? I would rather pay higher prices and keep my family safe. Sorry, I’m not green enough to put my children at risk.

  • Shannon

    My main concern is the safety of these cars. They look like death traps. I have small children. First of all, my family would never fit in one of these. But, secondly, I would never drive on a major highway in one. Have they performed crash tests on these? I would rather pay higher prices and keep my family safe. Sorry, I’m not green enough to put my children at risk.

  • http://peterthethinker.com/tesla/Venom/Venom.html peter KG6LSE

    not bad!!!! BUT if we all plugged in our EVs at once we WILL crash the grid!!!.. look at So-CAL our rolling blackouts..

    there are easy fixes to this …. but still a problem in some states ..

  • http://peterthethinker.com/tesla/Venom/Venom.html peter KG6LSE

    not bad!!!! BUT if we all plugged in our EVs at once we WILL crash the grid!!!.. look at So-CAL our rolling blackouts..

    there are easy fixes to this …. but still a problem in some states ..

  • http://www.none.com None

    I’m thinking there needs to be an all electric car that has a distance of at least 100 miles, max speed of 65 mph or better and costs less than $13k.

    Think about all the teens on the roads who drive big SUVs or trucks but would rather drive smaller cars. Think about all the adults who drive to work and back in their large SUVs and trucks because they can’t afford a 2nd smaller vehicle but can’t get rid of their larger vehicle because they need it quite often.

    Pump out some cheap all electric cars that can handle highway speeds and can get them to and from work and you’ll see a lot more of them on the road.

    I have a Hybrid and get 48mph on average but if an all electric car that met the specs I listed above were to be released, I’d buy one in a second and use it most the time while keeping the hybrid for longer trips.

  • http://www.none.com None

    I’m thinking there needs to be an all electric car that has a distance of at least 100 miles, max speed of 65 mph or better and costs less than $13k.

    Think about all the teens on the roads who drive big SUVs or trucks but would rather drive smaller cars. Think about all the adults who drive to work and back in their large SUVs and trucks because they can’t afford a 2nd smaller vehicle but can’t get rid of their larger vehicle because they need it quite often.

    Pump out some cheap all electric cars that can handle highway speeds and can get them to and from work and you’ll see a lot more of them on the road.

    I have a Hybrid and get 48mph on average but if an all electric car that met the specs I listed above were to be released, I’d buy one in a second and use it most the time while keeping the hybrid for longer trips.

  • ChrisP

    For the life of me, I cannot ever see electric cars making any sense until they can produce most of their own power on the fly (the way many gas hybrids do now, or possibly via solar). Anyone who thinks that electricity is cleaner than gasoline is blind. Where do you think this juice comes from? For the eastern two-thirds of the US, electricity comes from dirty high sulphur coal. So you wouldn’t see pollution from your tailpipe; but you would see it belching from big smokestacks.

    And it ain’t cheap either. The same forces that have driven up oil prices have put coal through the roof too.

    Hybrid/solar/fuel cell tech improvements might be the answer. But the plug-in car is not. It looks a lot like Obama’s promises — A really cool idea; just don’t peek behind the curtain.

  • ChrisP

    For the life of me, I cannot ever see electric cars making any sense until they can produce most of their own power on the fly (the way many gas hybrids do now, or possibly via solar). Anyone who thinks that electricity is cleaner than gasoline is blind. Where do you think this juice comes from? For the eastern two-thirds of the US, electricity comes from dirty high sulphur coal. So you wouldn’t see pollution from your tailpipe; but you would see it belching from big smokestacks.

    And it ain’t cheap either. The same forces that have driven up oil prices have put coal through the roof too.

    Hybrid/solar/fuel cell tech improvements might be the answer. But the plug-in car is not. It looks a lot like Obama’s promises — A really cool idea; just don’t peek behind the curtain.

  • sven

    My concern is, what do we do at freezing temperatures, do the cars have heaters, for defrosting the windows. Hybrids are best in my part of the country.

  • sven

    My concern is, what do we do at freezing temperatures, do the cars have heaters, for defrosting the windows. Hybrids are best in my part of the country.

  • Rick

    I’m with Dean. Make the roof out of solar panels and let the “Think” charge in the parking lot while I’m at work! Then they would REALLY have something!

  • Rick

    I’m with Dean. Make the roof out of solar panels and let the “Think” charge in the parking lot while I’m at work! Then they would REALLY have something!

  • http://trillions.topcities.com jack marchand

    oct. 11th, 2008

    Gentlemen (Ladies) Oct.12, 2008

    In my web page above, –index no.2–see electric cars with battery swap stations

    http://trillions.topcities.com/electriCar.html

    A standard size and voltage is required to provide the same convenience as gas cars in order to avoid apprehension by the drivers. Meeting at the U.N.maybe

    Roll on –Jack Marchand

  • http://trillions.topcities.com jack marchand

    oct. 11th, 2008

    Gentlemen (Ladies) Oct.12, 2008

    In my web page above, –index no.2–see electric cars with battery swap stations

    http://trillions.topcities.com/electriCar.html

    A standard size and voltage is required to provide the same convenience as gas cars in order to avoid apprehension by the drivers. Meeting at the U.N.maybe

    Roll on –Jack Marchand

  • http://trillions.topcities.com jack marchand

    Gentlemen (Ladies) Oct.12, 2008

    In my web page above, –index no.2–see electric cars with battery swap stations

    http://trillions.topcities.com/electriCar.html

    A standard size and voltage is required to provide the same convenience as gas cars in order to avoid apprehension by the drivers. Meeting at the U.N.maybe

    Roll on –Jack Marchand

  • http://trillions.topcities.com jack marchand

    Gentlemen (Ladies) Oct.12, 2008

    In my web page above, –index no.2–see electric cars with battery swap stations

    http://trillions.topcities.com/electriCar.html

    A standard size and voltage is required to provide the same convenience as gas cars in order to avoid apprehension by the drivers. Meeting at the U.N.maybe

    Roll on –Jack Marchand

  • Victoria

    They have faster crs check out: http://venturebeat.com/2008/01/10/27-electric-cars-companies-ready-to-take-over-the-road/

    I wanna know were+when i can buy 1

  • Victoria

    They have faster crs check out: http://venturebeat.com/2008/01/10/27-electric-cars-companies-ready-to-take-over-the-road/

    I wanna know were+when i can buy 1

  • yi5hedr3

    Great idea, but twice the reasonable cost!! These things should be no more than $10k.

  • yi5hedr3

    Great idea, but twice the reasonable cost!! These things should be no more than $10k.

  • Tired of the whining

    I’m so sick of hearing people complain about the limited range of electric cars. Just try and pretend that with the high price of gas, your driving habits don’t need to change! You plan a trip to be as efficient as it can be, same as you would do with an electric car.

    As for going on trips, JUST RENT OR BORROW A GAS OR HYBRID CAR. Most people only need the additional range a few times a year, and it is still cheaper to rent than to drive a gas car all the time.

    More importantly, WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. If nobody ever buys an electric car because it’s limited range is “inconvenient,” then it will be years before any kind of long-range infrastructure can be put in place, despite the fact that we already have batteries that can recharge from 0-100% in 15 minutes.

    Not to mention that foreign oil is an economic and national security hazard, waiting to explode in our face. The only alternative fuel we can generate 100% cleanly and 100% within our own country, is ELECTRICITY.

    Then there’s the environment. If we don’t seriously reduce carbon emissions soon, then it will be too late to reverse the ill-effects of humanly accelerated global warming. And if you don’t buy into global warming, you cannot deny that our cities have a smog problem, and AT THEIR WORST, electric cars move pollution away from populated areas.

    So STOP WHINING ABOUT THE RANGE OF ELECTRIC CARS. IF YOU WANT ANYTHING TO CHANGE YOU HAVE TO DEMAND THAT CHANGE AND ACT ON IT WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE. IF NOBODY WANTS TO BUY THESE CARS THEN NOBODY WILL MAKE OR SELL THEM.

  • Tired of the whining

    I’m so sick of hearing people complain about the limited range of electric cars. Just try and pretend that with the high price of gas, your driving habits don’t need to change! You plan a trip to be as efficient as it can be, same as you would do with an electric car.

    As for going on trips, JUST RENT OR BORROW A GAS OR HYBRID CAR. Most people only need the additional range a few times a year, and it is still cheaper to rent than to drive a gas car all the time.

    More importantly, WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. If nobody ever buys an electric car because it’s limited range is “inconvenient,” then it will be years before any kind of long-range infrastructure can be put in place, despite the fact that we already have batteries that can recharge from 0-100% in 15 minutes.

    Not to mention that foreign oil is an economic and national security hazard, waiting to explode in our face. The only alternative fuel we can generate 100% cleanly and 100% within our own country, is ELECTRICITY.

    Then there’s the environment. If we don’t seriously reduce carbon emissions soon, then it will be too late to reverse the ill-effects of humanly accelerated global warming. And if you don’t buy into global warming, you cannot deny that our cities have a smog problem, and AT THEIR WORST, electric cars move pollution away from populated areas.

    So STOP WHINING ABOUT THE RANGE OF ELECTRIC CARS. IF YOU WANT ANYTHING TO CHANGE YOU HAVE TO DEMAND THAT CHANGE AND ACT ON IT WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE. IF NOBODY WANTS TO BUY THESE CARS THEN NOBODY WILL MAKE OR SELL THEM.

  • Dex

    It would be nice if car body can be made of solar panel.

  • Dex

    It would be nice if car body can be made of solar panel.

  • http://www.dropacar.com Dropacar

    maybe its time to add some electric cars to my site dropacar

  • http://www.dropacar.com Dropacar

    maybe its time to add some electric cars to my site dropacar

  • mike

    i too have a problem with the gay look. BUT this one looks like it would be fun to drive and functional more than gay. it seems that every body agrees that electric cars makes sence for short trips and single person driving. why in heck are so many companies making these large sedan types complete with all the luxaries (i.e. GM Volt). i drive a chevy s-10, it seems to me they could simply change from internal combustion to electric and not change any thing else. my truck is small,lite and multi purpose. if it were only electric, you could not build them fast enough. the fact is, GM does not want the Volt to succeed. they only want to say “we tried”. anybody seriosly considering an electric car is smart enough to know that they will have to make changes in driving habbits and anybody that does not realize this, well, lets see how thier driving habits change when gas is above $5 a gallon. back to point, if you change the discussion to security rather than enviroment, the rednecks listen. if you change the style from gay to functional, rednecks will buy.

  • mike

    i too have a problem with the gay look. BUT this one looks like it would be fun to drive and functional more than gay. it seems that every body agrees that electric cars makes sence for short trips and single person driving. why in heck are so many companies making these large sedan types complete with all the luxaries (i.e. GM Volt). i drive a chevy s-10, it seems to me they could simply change from internal combustion to electric and not change any thing else. my truck is small,lite and multi purpose. if it were only electric, you could not build them fast enough. the fact is, GM does not want the Volt to succeed. they only want to say “we tried”. anybody seriosly considering an electric car is smart enough to know that they will have to make changes in driving habbits and anybody that does not realize this, well, lets see how thier driving habits change when gas is above $5 a gallon. back to point, if you change the discussion to security rather than enviroment, the rednecks listen. if you change the style from gay to functional, rednecks will buy.

  • stillwaiting

    i have been relentless in my search for an electric car for 8 years now. i bought a brand new chevy s-10 in 2000. i told the salesman at the time that i intended the truck to last until a viable electric car was available on the market and he laughed. the time has come. i have 100,000 miles on my truck (maintenance free). at some point i will have to invest money in my internal combustion engine to keep it running and i refuse to go down that same old road again on something that will be obsolete in 5 years. the “think” is small and ugly but not too gay looking, good range and descent speed. BUT, it is not made in america and way out of my price range. $8000- $10000 price range, and i could see this car in mass numbers on the road. its just nice to know that some one out there is getting closer to making an affordable practical electric car. p.s. check out their website- the battery options they offer is a brilliant idea.

  • stillwaiting

    i have been relentless in my search for an electric car for 8 years now. i bought a brand new chevy s-10 in 2000. i told the salesman at the time that i intended the truck to last until a viable electric car was available on the market and he laughed. the time has come. i have 100,000 miles on my truck (maintenance free). at some point i will have to invest money in my internal combustion engine to keep it running and i refuse to go down that same old road again on something that will be obsolete in 5 years. the “think” is small and ugly but not too gay looking, good range and descent speed. BUT, it is not made in america and way out of my price range. $8000- $10000 price range, and i could see this car in mass numbers on the road. its just nice to know that some one out there is getting closer to making an affordable practical electric car. p.s. check out their website- the battery options they offer is a brilliant idea.

  • http://Allhailgas.com Jane doe

    the cars are very ugly

  • http://Allhailgas.com Jane doe

    the cars are very ugly

  • http://www.olino.org/us/ Jeroen

    Look here for a very extensive overview of electric cars

  • http://www.olino.org/us/ Jeroen

    Look here for a very extensive overview of electric cars

  • Mike

    I found a great new blog which covers all electric cars all the time:

    http://www.allcarselectric.com

  • Mike

    I found a great new blog which covers all electric cars all the time:

    http://www.allcarselectric.com

  • tonya

    will it be cheaper as far as gas prices to buy an eletric car rather than a gasolin powered car?

  • tonya

    will it be cheaper as far as gas prices to buy an eletric car rather than a gasolin powered car?

  • http://mp3window.com music

    I very much love small cars, my wife wishes to buy the such

  • http://mp3window.com music

    I very much love small cars, my wife wishes to buy the such

  • http://electriccarphotos.com/ Vincent

    2009 and 2010 will be very good years for the beginning of this industry.

    Electric Cars are the Future.

    And it’s already here.

  • http://electriccarphotos.com/ Vincent

    2009 and 2010 will be very good years for the beginning of this industry.

    Electric Cars are the Future.

    And it’s already here.

  • http://www.realdemocracyinamerica.com/blog/ Mike Mathiesen

    Electric cars of the Future will not work in the way anyone else has in mind because we are on the verge of an entire Electric Energy Revolution. Where we use Electrified Freeways and Roads to get anywhere we want powered by the Sun and the WInd. Get on Board.

    WE CAN AND MUST ELECTRIFY THE ROADS and the cars will find their way there.

    http://www.realdemocracyinamerica.com/blog/ We need

    registered bloggers to UNITE on this concept.

    WE NEED DIGGS badly right now.

    Thanks

  • http://www.realdemocracyinamerica.com/blog/ Mike Mathiesen

    Electric cars of the Future will not work in the way anyone else has in mind because we are on the verge of an entire Electric Energy Revolution. Where we use Electrified Freeways and Roads to get anywhere we want powered by the Sun and the WInd. Get on Board.

    WE CAN AND MUST ELECTRIFY THE ROADS and the cars will find their way there.

    http://www.realdemocracyinamerica.com/blog/ We need

    registered bloggers to UNITE on this concept.

    WE NEED DIGGS badly right now.

    Thanks

  • John

    I am all for electric cars. They are coming and they will be constantly improving their range and performance. However, I will not support the inevitable backlash against internal combustion vehicles over the years and decades. They should continue to be legally manufactured for those who choose to use them.

  • John

    I am all for electric cars. They are coming and they will be constantly improving their range and performance. However, I will not support the inevitable backlash against internal combustion vehicles over the years and decades. They should continue to be legally manufactured for those who choose to use them.

  • Tory

    Who cares if they look gay, would you rather continue to drive your big ass 7 mile per gallon suv, with an unbelievable carbon footprint? Unless you can and did afford the gas prices, then I would think not, because i would be embarresed to drive one. And yes, bikes are the true alternative we should be looking for, but lets get real and consider the current economy and the current people living in the us. Biking everywhere is a great idea but completely unpractical in todays society and as a commute for most people. However, i do agree, and i also think many people should utilize the public transportation available in many areas like Chicago.

  • Tory

    Who cares if they look gay, would you rather continue to drive your big ass 7 mile per gallon suv, with an unbelievable carbon footprint? Unless you can and did afford the gas prices, then I would think not, because i would be embarresed to drive one. And yes, bikes are the true alternative we should be looking for, but lets get real and consider the current economy and the current people living in the us. Biking everywhere is a great idea but completely unpractical in todays society and as a commute for most people. However, i do agree, and i also think many people should utilize the public transportation available in many areas like Chicago.

  • Paul

    I think 25 grand for this car is too expensive. I understand why a car like this costs so much. What if this technology were put into a Corvette? Aerodynamic fiberglass body, two seater, and good looking body design. Now that’s a car more people would be willing to shell out that kind of cash for. Are you reading this Richard Wagoner?

  • Paul

    I think 25 grand for this car is too expensive. I understand why a car like this costs so much. What if this technology were put into a Corvette? Aerodynamic fiberglass body, two seater, and good looking body design. Now that’s a car more people would be willing to shell out that kind of cash for. Are you reading this Richard Wagoner?

  • gambori

    “The green in our personal philosophies will always take a back seat to the green in our wallets”.

    Which is more likely to be your next car: a $40,000.00 hybrid/electric, or a $16,000.00 E85?

    (So much for the hybrids ~ I see Ethanol in your future).

    It is only a matter of time.

  • gambori

    “The green in our personal philosophies will always take a back seat to the green in our wallets”.

    Which is more likely to be your next car: a $40,000.00 hybrid/electric, or a $16,000.00 E85?

    (So much for the hybrids ~ I see Ethanol in your future).

    It is only a matter of time.

  • Ricardo

    I still don’t know why any car company has come with an electric car that charges their batteries by itself??? Is it that difficult to attach a generator to an axle so the rotation of the wheel generates the energy needed to charge the batteries???

    It didn’t have to be an affordable car, and the only limit you’ll see is the time the air conditioner/heater, radio, and headlights can stay on until you have to move your car or turn them off

  • Ricardo

    I still don’t know why any car company has come with an electric car that charges their batteries by itself??? Is it that difficult to attach a generator to an axle so the rotation of the wheel generates the energy needed to charge the batteries???

    It didn’t have to be an affordable car, and the only limit you’ll see is the time the air conditioner/heater, radio, and headlights can stay on until you have to move your car or turn them off

  • http://you-read-it-here-first.com John Bailo

    I know it’s new technology, but it seems to me that electric cars should be cheaper than the most expensive ICE car and $20,000 is way too much!

    Electric cars have few moving parts. No gears (engine is variable speed). No idle, no fuel mixing…

    I would say that a subcompact “electric” car, either all-electric or (my preference) hydrogen fuel cell powered should be phenomenally cheap…maybe $5000 or less.

  • http://you-read-it-here-first.com John Bailo

    I know it’s new technology, but it seems to me that electric cars should be cheaper than the most expensive ICE car and $20,000 is way too much!

    Electric cars have few moving parts. No gears (engine is variable speed). No idle, no fuel mixing…

    I would say that a subcompact “electric” car, either all-electric or (my preference) hydrogen fuel cell powered should be phenomenally cheap…maybe $5000 or less.

  • http://livsystems.com.au Robin

    Imagine a Think, or any other electric vehicle, which covers 95% of driving needs. A small motorcycle trailer with 2nd battery pack, a small generator (Stirling motor perhaps) and a little more luggage space is all that’s needed to cover the other 5%. Unless, of course, you are addicted to the noise, the smell and the cost of the second-rate, sunset technology the major auto makers are sticking us with.

  • http://livsystems.com.au Robin

    Imagine a Think, or any other electric vehicle, which covers 95% of driving needs. A small motorcycle trailer with 2nd battery pack, a small generator (Stirling motor perhaps) and a little more luggage space is all that’s needed to cover the other 5%. Unless, of course, you are addicted to the noise, the smell and the cost of the second-rate, sunset technology the major auto makers are sticking us with.

  • Mad Scientist

    Simple solutions are best. I have a 38 mile commute (until I move closer to work). I could make this car work. I would plug it in at the office. If I wanted to make it a long range vehicle, I would add a 49cc motor with a generator head to charge the batteries while I drive. It would no longer be an emission free vehicle, but it would stretch the range.

    I agree with the concerns about style problems of these cars from a marketability standpoint, but two of the guys with whom I graduated The JFK Special Warfare Center drive cars that would be considered less than masculine. As both are huge & now resemble Grizzly Adams, they have never faced a crowd bent on gay-bashing. The question at hand is how secure you are in your manhood? (Do you need a V-8 as a symbol of your virility?)

    Until a car comes on the market that fits my needs, or can be modified to fit my needs (or I build one that fits my needs), I will ride my motorcycle when the weather is good. When the weather is bad, I will drive my Impala like I have some common sense & get 30+mpg.

  • Mad Scientist

    Simple solutions are best. I have a 38 mile commute (until I move closer to work). I could make this car work. I would plug it in at the office. If I wanted to make it a long range vehicle, I would add a 49cc motor with a generator head to charge the batteries while I drive. It would no longer be an emission free vehicle, but it would stretch the range.

    I agree with the concerns about style problems of these cars from a marketability standpoint, but two of the guys with whom I graduated The JFK Special Warfare Center drive cars that would be considered less than masculine. As both are huge & now resemble Grizzly Adams, they have never faced a crowd bent on gay-bashing. The question at hand is how secure you are in your manhood? (Do you need a V-8 as a symbol of your virility?)

    Until a car comes on the market that fits my needs, or can be modified to fit my needs (or I build one that fits my needs), I will ride my motorcycle when the weather is good. When the weather is bad, I will drive my Impala like I have some common sense & get 30+mpg.

  • lisa

    when talking about price I bought one factory direct… from hytricmotors.com in california for only $8900.00 us

  • lisa

    when talking about price I bought one factory direct… from hytricmotors.com in california for only $8900.00 us

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  • american SCOOTER daveduit2@ho

    Wow! Since when did this website turn into an american bashing website. I’m from the US and I ride a scooter to work everyday. Not all Americans drive SUVs and gas hogs.

  • american SCOOTER daveduit2@ho

    Wow! Since when did this website turn into an american bashing website. I’m from the US and I ride a scooter to work everyday. Not all Americans drive SUVs and gas hogs.

  • Manny

    I have to agree with folks that we don’t have the complete infrustruture to support these alternative fuel cars. Now that I’ve said that.

    All new inovations will always have a bump in the road. In this case I see the following:

    Distribution

    Vehicle support

    Source of fuel

    ETC.

    Thinking of where we are in terms of economics. All of these problems will be a way to offset job loss, closed business, and a way to start a new industry.

    People tend to overthink this issue. This is the right way to go, all signs point to this path so lets just do it. If these cars can only go 100miles then lets put a rest area and a charging station at that point. If we require more electricity then lets put up more solar power generator or other responsible source of energy. These are where the future jobs will be.

    Personally, I will be buying an electric car just so that i’m not held up once a week in the gas stations not knowing how much i’m going to get charged for each refill. We have to personally deside to stop being victims of companies that take advantage of the public. We need to be united and commited to change.

    Thanks

  • Manny

    I have to agree with folks that we don’t have the complete infrustruture to support these alternative fuel cars. Now that I’ve said that.

    All new inovations will always have a bump in the road. In this case I see the following:

    Distribution

    Vehicle support

    Source of fuel

    ETC.

    Thinking of where we are in terms of economics. All of these problems will be a way to offset job loss, closed business, and a way to start a new industry.

    People tend to overthink this issue. This is the right way to go, all signs point to this path so lets just do it. If these cars can only go 100miles then lets put a rest area and a charging station at that point. If we require more electricity then lets put up more solar power generator or other responsible source of energy. These are where the future jobs will be.

    Personally, I will be buying an electric car just so that i’m not held up once a week in the gas stations not knowing how much i’m going to get charged for each refill. We have to personally deside to stop being victims of companies that take advantage of the public. We need to be united and commited to change.

    Thanks

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  • Jester

    To make a vehicle truely affordable and to encourage people to purchase them you need electric vehicles that are less than $15000. If given the choice between a gas powered vehicle that costs $10000 and a electric/hybrid for 25000 what do you think people will choose. Dont get me wrong i love the idea of electric vehicles, petroleum companies have raped us long enough but they need to be truely AFFORDABLE.

  • Jester

    To make a vehicle truely affordable and to encourage people to purchase them you need electric vehicles that are less than $15000. If given the choice between a gas powered vehicle that costs $10000 and a electric/hybrid for 25000 what do you think people will choose. Dont get me wrong i love the idea of electric vehicles, petroleum companies have raped us long enough but they need to be truely AFFORDABLE.

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  • Lizzy

    i dont really like the car. They could make it look like a regular but make it electric to save the enviroment

  • Lizzy

    i dont really like the car. They could make it look like a regular but make it electric to save the enviroment

  • http://NONE NICK

    I am sick of Americans being branded for not buying alternative fuel vehicles. Let’s lower the prices so they are available to the average worker. Oh yeah, just the ones that look stupid are affordable. And even better, the oil companies I am sure are in bed with the automakers…”Who killed the electric car?” But just cause some large figureheads in the US started and caused this problem does not mean ALL Americans are stupid, close-minded individuals. Clean it up, world. Make sure your own porch is clean before you complain about mine…

  • Ryan

    Amen uncle B. I am totally going to get one of these. And BTW there is a car with long distance friendly(65 mi to the gal and 99.9 downhill)+ affordable vehicle (cost from $19000 to $25000)

  • Ryan

    Amen uncle B. I am totally going to get one of these. And BTW there is a car with long distance friendly(65 mi to the gal and 99.9 downhill)+ affordable vehicle (cost from $19000 to $25000)

  • Ryan

    Amen uncle B. I am totally going to get one of these. And BTW there is a car with long distance friendly(65 mi to the gal and 99.9 downhill)+ affordable vehicle (cost from $19000 to $25000)

  • Bob

    Do your homework everyone we are closer than you think. I am in no way affiliated with and of these new cars just interested in owning one. As long as the big dogs have the reins we will never get what we want. Many of these cars not just this one are available they are just asking so much because of development costs. They only take that long to charge because your pluging them into a wall. Fast up to 10 minute charging systems exist. We will slowly get there but in the near term electricity, long distance travel as well as got to have it Good old American Speed; It’s all already out there.

    When the price comes down people will switch. This car is just incapable of delivering in all areas. 3cents a mile for electric 9 for gas you decide. There are also Compressed air cars that are available for about the same price as a new honda civic.

    Don’t take my word for it do your own research on google or whatever and check out the air car, or type fastest electric car into google or you tube. The time is coming soon and I for one am excited.

    Last thought: my personal favorite FISKER KARMA looks like a bently.

    -peace

  • Bob

    Do your homework everyone we are closer than you think. I am in no way affiliated with and of these new cars just interested in owning one. As long as the big dogs have the reins we will never get what we want. Many of these cars not just this one are available they are just asking so much because of development costs. They only take that long to charge because your pluging them into a wall. Fast up to 10 minute charging systems exist. We will slowly get there but in the near term electricity, long distance travel as well as got to have it Good old American Speed; It’s all already out there.

    When the price comes down people will switch. This car is just incapable of delivering in all areas. 3cents a mile for electric 9 for gas you decide. There are also Compressed air cars that are available for about the same price as a new honda civic.

    Don’t take my word for it do your own research on google or whatever and check out the air car, or type fastest electric car into google or you tube. The time is coming soon and I for one am excited.

    Last thought: my personal favorite FISKER KARMA looks like a bently.

    -peace

  • Bob

    Do your homework everyone we are closer than you think. I am in no way affiliated with and of these new cars just interested in owning one. As long as the big dogs have the reins we will never get what we want. Many of these cars not just this one are available they are just asking so much because of development costs. They only take that long to charge because your pluging them into a wall. Fast up to 10 minute charging systems exist. We will slowly get there but in the near term electricity, long distance travel as well as got to have it Good old American Speed; It’s all already out there.

    When the price comes down people will switch. This car is just incapable of delivering in all areas. 3cents a mile for electric 9 for gas you decide. There are also Compressed air cars that are available for about the same price as a new honda civic.

    Don’t take my word for it do your own research on google or whatever and check out the air car, or type fastest electric car into google or you tube. The time is coming soon and I for one am excited.

    Last thought: my personal favorite FISKER KARMA looks like a bently.

    -peace

  • http://thepoliticalpunch.blogspot.com/ Joseph

    Can’t wait I have driven my prius for 4 years problem free, I am going to wait a bit linger to step into a vehicle that uses no gas or even less than I am using now

  • http://thepoliticalpunch.blogspot.com/ Joseph

    Can’t wait I have driven my prius for 4 years problem free, I am going to wait a bit linger to step into a vehicle that uses no gas or even less than I am using now

  • planetautomatic

    I think of all these guys the TATA/MDi AIr Car could be the real winners. Great combination (Guy Negre – ex formula one), TATAs – a wholesome winning company and riding on AIR.

    These guys could really pull it off. I guess they have been real quiet cause theyve been in development and very close to production- amny time soon. I think the AIR Car is the real thing. The rest seeem too expensive or hype.

    The AIr Car could bring this to reality at a reasonable cost anywhere, any market.

  • planetautomatic

    I think of all these guys the TATA/MDi AIr Car could be the real winners. Great combination (Guy Negre – ex formula one), TATAs – a wholesome winning company and riding on AIR.

    These guys could really pull it off. I guess they have been real quiet cause theyve been in development and very close to production- amny time soon. I think the AIR Car is the real thing. The rest seeem too expensive or hype.

    The AIr Car could bring this to reality at a reasonable cost anywhere, any market.

  • bill

    This car is dead on arrival if Toyota comes up with Plug in Prius in early 2010.

  • bill

    This car is dead on arrival if Toyota comes up with Plug in Prius in early 2010.

  • Kirsten

    The Th!nk was developed in Europe, Ford bought it in the early 2000’s when they though they would have to comply with the CARB (California Air Resources Board) requirement for ZEV’s (Zero Emissions Vehicles) by 2009. The CARB, under intense lobbying pressure from the car companies, caved and rolled back it’s requirements. I wrote many outraged letters at the time, and could not believe the depth of their betrayal. At the time that they crapped out I could buy a RAV4 EV, a Sparrow EV, Honda had a cute little EV mini Van, and of course the EV1. I now have no EV options that are not NEVs(Neighborhood Electric Vehicles AKA golf carts) or Tango/Tesla expensive. Within months of the CARB decision Ford dropped TH!NK like a hot potato.

    I rented a TH!NK from Hertz around 01 or ’02, and loved it, although it was kind of cheap. I would gladly drive one now!!!

    Keep the car you have and use it when you need the range. Use electric for the bulk of your trips, which for most Americans are under 20 miles. Or better yet, take the cliff bar 2 mile challenge, and ride your bike for errand s under that distance. http://www.2milechallenge.com/home.html

  • Kirsten

    The Th!nk was developed in Europe, Ford bought it in the early 2000’s when they though they would have to comply with the CARB (California Air Resources Board) requirement for ZEV’s (Zero Emissions Vehicles) by 2009. The CARB, under intense lobbying pressure from the car companies, caved and rolled back it’s requirements. I wrote many outraged letters at the time, and could not believe the depth of their betrayal. At the time that they crapped out I could buy a RAV4 EV, a Sparrow EV, Honda had a cute little EV mini Van, and of course the EV1. I now have no EV options that are not NEVs(Neighborhood Electric Vehicles AKA golf carts) or Tango/Tesla expensive. Within months of the CARB decision Ford dropped TH!NK like a hot potato.

    I rented a TH!NK from Hertz around 01 or ’02, and loved it, although it was kind of cheap. I would gladly drive one now!!!

    Keep the car you have and use it when you need the range. Use electric for the bulk of your trips, which for most Americans are under 20 miles. Or better yet, take the cliff bar 2 mile challenge, and ride your bike for errand s under that distance. http://www.2milechallenge.com/home.html

  • ech

    For long trips, no need to buy a 2nd car, you can just rent one. This is actually pretty cheap, compared to the alternatives.

  • ech

    For long trips, no need to buy a 2nd car, you can just rent one. This is actually pretty cheap, compared to the alternatives.

  • ech

    For long trips, no need to buy a 2nd car, you can just rent one. This is actually pretty cheap, compared to the alternatives.

  • Gregory Melton

    I couldn’t find any info on repairs or prevenitive maintenance.Do these cars have a long life span?

  • Gregory Melton

    I couldn’t find any info on repairs or prevenitive maintenance.Do these cars have a long life span?

  • http://www.vintageelectricauto.com Charles Sheridan

    Dear Sir:

    Would you be interested in an article about an electric car company that

    looked like it stepped out of 1910 into the present day?

  • http://www.vintageelectricauto.com Charles Sheridan

    Dear Sir:

    Would you be interested in an article about an electric car company that

    looked like it stepped out of 1910 into the present day?

  • http://www.vintageelectricauto.com Charles Sheridan

    Dear Sir:

    Would you be interested in an article about an electric car company that

    looked like it stepped out of 1910 into the present day?

  • Aj

    Im 16 and i really want an electric car for my first vehicle if i cant find one im not going to get a car period i might just get a motorcycle because they have smaller engines than cars and they dont need alot of gas even if you want to get cross country or something especially if you get a touring bike….in some way i am pissed off at my grand parents and parents for screwing my generation over they didnt make an effort and now my generation has to live with the crappy environment pollution and and even shittier economy i think being green is a great thing and im not a hippy or tree hugger i just think we really need to start looking at alternative fuels and ways to power our homes and other things we carelesly use…now likw i said im only 16 so i dont care what you old guys think this is what needs to be done instead of driving hummers or other big SUV’s i really wish that the world could have been more eco friendly sooner but oh well we are trying now but more needs to be done

    Thank you

  • Aj

    Im 16 and i really want an electric car for my first vehicle if i cant find one im not going to get a car period i might just get a motorcycle because they have smaller engines than cars and they dont need alot of gas even if you want to get cross country or something especially if you get a touring bike….in some way i am pissed off at my grand parents and parents for screwing my generation over they didnt make an effort and now my generation has to live with the crappy environment pollution and and even shittier economy i think being green is a great thing and im not a hippy or tree hugger i just think we really need to start looking at alternative fuels and ways to power our homes and other things we carelesly use…now likw i said im only 16 so i dont care what you old guys think this is what needs to be done instead of driving hummers or other big SUV’s i really wish that the world could have been more eco friendly sooner but oh well we are trying now but more needs to be done

    Thank you

  • Aj

    Im 16 and i really want an electric car for my first vehicle if i cant find one im not going to get a car period i might just get a motorcycle because they have smaller engines than cars and they dont need alot of gas even if you want to get cross country or something especially if you get a touring bike….in some way i am pissed off at my grand parents and parents for screwing my generation over they didnt make an effort and now my generation has to live with the crappy environment pollution and and even shittier economy i think being green is a great thing and im not a hippy or tree hugger i just think we really need to start looking at alternative fuels and ways to power our homes and other things we carelesly use…now likw i said im only 16 so i dont care what you old guys think this is what needs to be done instead of driving hummers or other big SUV’s i really wish that the world could have been more eco friendly sooner but oh well we are trying now but more needs to be done

    Thank you

  • Kenneth Nelan

    Why has no one thought of incorporating a solar panel into the roof of these, or any other electric cars? Here in Arizona we get (on average) more than 300 days of sun. While sitting in a parking lot it could be topping itself off quite easily making it ready for the next leap to the next store, or work, or where ever.

    And think about this, if I drive to work, (I teach at my local community college) the car would be parked for (on average for me anyway) 4 hours in the hot grueling sun. I’m sure that would be enough to top it off to get me home, the movies, the store and where ever else in town I need to go. Shoot… 110 miles would be enough to get me to the East side of Phoenix where I could stop and get some lunch, then let the solar panel do it’s thing to get me to my destination in town.

    Add to that regenerative breaking and who knows…

    I may just give up my truck for one of these and ask for it to be outfitted with a solar panel.

    I guess I’d rather look at the positives than the negatives.

  • Kenneth Nelan

    Why has no one thought of incorporating a solar panel into the roof of these, or any other electric cars? Here in Arizona we get (on average) more than 300 days of sun. While sitting in a parking lot it could be topping itself off quite easily making it ready for the next leap to the next store, or work, or where ever.

    And think about this, if I drive to work, (I teach at my local community college) the car would be parked for (on average for me anyway) 4 hours in the hot grueling sun. I’m sure that would be enough to top it off to get me home, the movies, the store and where ever else in town I need to go. Shoot… 110 miles would be enough to get me to the East side of Phoenix where I could stop and get some lunch, then let the solar panel do it’s thing to get me to my destination in town.

    Add to that regenerative breaking and who knows…

    I may just give up my truck for one of these and ask for it to be outfitted with a solar panel.

    I guess I’d rather look at the positives than the negatives.

  • frank

    The problem of mechanized transportation is and always will be energy. We have technology to build very powerful, highly efficient electric motors that can drive any type of road vehicles we care to build. The problem is the energy source to make them move. Batteries only store energy, they don’t produce it. This is a fact most people can’t seem to grasp. In no way can our present electrical grid support significant numbers of electric vehicles being charged and even if revamped at huge cost, the real, underlying problem of an original source of energy remains. That would be coal, for the most part-which is finite in supply and hugely polluting. If we start using it to power masses of vehicles it will soon be exhausted and our affect on the atmosphere/climate greatly worsened. I don’t believe for a moment that we can substitute wind and solar for the vast amount of energy we consume in the form of fossil fuels. Anyone who does believe this is just fooling them self. In my view what’s really going to happen is we will all do a lot less traveling and what we do will be more on foot, bicycle or horse. Only time will tell if I’m correct in this but I have come to these conclusions after much careful thought and analysis.

  • frank

    The problem of mechanized transportation is and always will be energy. We have technology to build very powerful, highly efficient electric motors that can drive any type of road vehicles we care to build. The problem is the energy source to make them move. Batteries only store energy, they don’t produce it. This is a fact most people can’t seem to grasp. In no way can our present electrical grid support significant numbers of electric vehicles being charged and even if revamped at huge cost, the real, underlying problem of an original source of energy remains. That would be coal, for the most part-which is finite in supply and hugely polluting. If we start using it to power masses of vehicles it will soon be exhausted and our affect on the atmosphere/climate greatly worsened. I don’t believe for a moment that we can substitute wind and solar for the vast amount of energy we consume in the form of fossil fuels. Anyone who does believe this is just fooling them self. In my view what’s really going to happen is we will all do a lot less traveling and what we do will be more on foot, bicycle or horse. Only time will tell if I’m correct in this but I have come to these conclusions after much careful thought and analysis.

  • frank

    Just wanted to add this to my previous post. The real, underlying problem of our planet-the one that underlies all others- is human overpopulation. If we can’t bring it under control then we have serious. catastrophic problems ahead. May I suggest you read prof. Paul Ehrlich books-The population Bomb and The Dominant Animal: Human Evolution and the Environment- to gain some perspective on this. There are many other good books on this crucial subject as well.

    Just watch this video http://www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp

    if you can stomach watching it all the way through. It’s heartrending, but real. This is from a link provided on this very web page. This is but one of the many consequences of mindless over breeding in the human species and an example of how we’re callously consuming the entire plant with total disregard for other life forms and even ourselves.

  • frank

    Just wanted to add this to my previous post. The real, underlying problem of our planet-the one that underlies all others- is human overpopulation. If we can’t bring it under control then we have serious. catastrophic problems ahead. May I suggest you read prof. Paul Ehrlich books-The population Bomb and The Dominant Animal: Human Evolution and the Environment- to gain some perspective on this. There are many other good books on this crucial subject as well.

    Just watch this video http://www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp

    if you can stomach watching it all the way through. It’s heartrending, but real. This is from a link provided on this very web page. This is but one of the many consequences of mindless over breeding in the human species and an example of how we’re callously consuming the entire plant with total disregard for other life forms and even ourselves.

  • Amber

    How many electric cars are in Wisconsin?

    How many electric cars are in the United States?

    How many electric cars are in Dane County, Wisconsin?

  • Amber

    How many electric cars are in Wisconsin?

    How many electric cars are in the United States?

    How many electric cars are in Dane County, Wisconsin?

  • Abhradeep Biswas

    this car ill surely help us to reduse the global warming… a Awsome invention

  • Abhradeep Biswas

    this car ill surely help us to reduse the global warming… a Awsome invention

  • richie

    How could the three large automakers not produce a backup fuel alternative for the cars after forty years of producing cars they would all rather lose there jobs. How could this happen?

  • richie

    How could the three large automakers not produce a backup fuel alternative for the cars after forty years of producing cars they would all rather lose there jobs. How could this happen?

  • Informed Consumer

    After much research I am still sold on the overall benefits and history behind ZAP vehicles

  • Informed Consumer

    After much research I am still sold on the overall benefits and history behind ZAP vehicles

  • John Mancine

    Just dont drive that electric car through a lightning storm, there has been, a rash of cars being hit by lightning, and since they are made of recycled material,it burns right through with no ground killing all passengers,something to do with the attraction to the magnetic field being generated by the generator!

  • John Mancine

    Just dont drive that electric car through a lightning storm, there has been, a rash of cars being hit by lightning, and since they are made of recycled material,it burns right through with no ground killing all passengers,something to do with the attraction to the magnetic field being generated by the generator!

  • Mike

    We Americans have a bad image as wasters of oil and other fuels. We drive so called gas guzzlers; produce electricity with coal, etc. We also provide the world with clean technologies, use nuclear power, hydro power, solar power and wind power, most of those technologies developed right here in the good old US of A.

    For all of our history we have been a place to go to for personal freedom. We think that we have a right to develop and use peaceful technological advances as we see fit. In fact we are quite arrogant about this. We think the rest of the world should use those advances as well, so we sell them abroad. We then get blamed for developing a technology that everyone wants and using it ourselves.

    Of course there is a missing link here. We are capitalist (for now) and think that we should maximize the profit on anything we sell. Supply and demand pricing works for us. We therefore don’t sell the best design first, but rather, let the consumer have new technology a bit at a time. One of my all time favorites is television. You might want to check when WRGB started broadcasting in color and compare that to when color receivers were commercially available.

    We appear to have the same thing going on in electric vehicles. Mamie Eisenhower had an electric car; it was on display in the presidential museum last time I was there. They were a flash in the pan then. We have had several limited editions made by American manufacturers, released to the public and then recalled and destroyed. We can build them, but we are not ready to sell them yet. Apparently the need is not great enough or something.

    The something is oil. We haven’t used it all up yet. We haven’t even come close, so why switch to something that costs more and performs only marginally better. If everything went electric (as is possible) we would put an entire industry out of business, not to mention that the remaining business would become more expensive (Try heating your home with electricity in Vermont).

    In the end, we will drive electric automobiles if they become more cost effective and work better than they do now. That is, when the manufacturers decide they will market an acceptable vehicle for the American public.

  • Mike

    We Americans have a bad image as wasters of oil and other fuels. We drive so called gas guzzlers; produce electricity with coal, etc. We also provide the world with clean technologies, use nuclear power, hydro power, solar power and wind power, most of those technologies developed right here in the good old US of A.

    For all of our history we have been a place to go to for personal freedom. We think that we have a right to develop and use peaceful technological advances as we see fit. In fact we are quite arrogant about this. We think the rest of the world should use those advances as well, so we sell them abroad. We then get blamed for developing a technology that everyone wants and using it ourselves.

    Of course there is a missing link here. We are capitalist (for now) and think that we should maximize the profit on anything we sell. Supply and demand pricing works for us. We therefore don’t sell the best design first, but rather, let the consumer have new technology a bit at a time. One of my all time favorites is television. You might want to check when WRGB started broadcasting in color and compare that to when color receivers were commercially available.

    We appear to have the same thing going on in electric vehicles. Mamie Eisenhower had an electric car; it was on display in the presidential museum last time I was there. They were a flash in the pan then. We have had several limited editions made by American manufacturers, released to the public and then recalled and destroyed. We can build them, but we are not ready to sell them yet. Apparently the need is not great enough or something.

    The something is oil. We haven’t used it all up yet. We haven’t even come close, so why switch to something that costs more and performs only marginally better. If everything went electric (as is possible) we would put an entire industry out of business, not to mention that the remaining business would become more expensive (Try heating your home with electricity in Vermont).

    In the end, we will drive electric automobiles if they become more cost effective and work better than they do now. That is, when the manufacturers decide they will market an acceptable vehicle for the American public.

  • http://www.amazon.com/Two-Cents-per-Mile-President/dp/0615293913/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245854577&sr=8-1 JB

    I just read a new book called Two Cents Per Mile: Will Obama Make it Happen with the Stroke of a Pen? Simply put, this book shows the open conspiracy going on between the Department of Energy and corporations to prevent the development of 100% electric cars. I had no idea this was going on. The book calls upon the reader to send letters to local, state and federal officials to get us back on track for all electric cars. There are links in the book to customize form letters. If you value America’s future, the environment and are concerned about what kind of world our kids will inherit, you have to check this book out. http://www.amazon.com/Two-Cents-per-Mile-President/dp/0615293913/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245854577&sr=8-1

  • http://www.amazon.com/Two-Cents-per-Mile-President/dp/0615293913/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245854577&sr=8-1 JB

    I just read a new book called Two Cents Per Mile: Will Obama Make it Happen with the Stroke of a Pen? Simply put, this book shows the open conspiracy going on between the Department of Energy and corporations to prevent the development of 100% electric cars. I had no idea this was going on. The book calls upon the reader to send letters to local, state and federal officials to get us back on track for all electric cars. There are links in the book to customize form letters. If you value America’s future, the environment and are concerned about what kind of world our kids will inherit, you have to check this book out. http://www.amazon.com/Two-Cents-per-Mile-President/dp/0615293913/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245854577&sr=8-1

  • http://www.dubraydesigns.com Jen

    I went to the think site, great! Also the new one, the think O. Looks very cool and stylish. Not cramped at all, and the solar panel on the top is promising. Looking very forward to this company being in the US.

    I am a Yaris driver. I do love my car, however I would love to be gas free more. But, I do agree on the power strain. Plugging in or fossil fuels is still taking too much. An alternative power source for charging the car would be great. The solar panel on the think O is a good start, same for the new Prius. (We need to have the solar power for more than just the AC.) We have the technology. We just need to be able to use it.

  • http://www.dubraydesigns.com Jen

    I went to the think site, great! Also the new one, the think O. Looks very cool and stylish. Not cramped at all, and the solar panel on the top is promising. Looking very forward to this company being in the US.

    I am a Yaris driver. I do love my car, however I would love to be gas free more. But, I do agree on the power strain. Plugging in or fossil fuels is still taking too much. An alternative power source for charging the car would be great. The solar panel on the think O is a good start, same for the new Prius. (We need to have the solar power for more than just the AC.) We have the technology. We just need to be able to use it.

  • ellenbetty

    Both of my Toyota Yarises are parked in rented parking spaces. I do not have access to a place to plug in a electric vehicle. I have zero plans to buy a electric car. While I would like to have solar panels on my home, I rent. I would need permission to install solar panels upon my home. I would have bought 2 Toyota Yarises with the 1.0 liter motor that gets 60+ mpg if the 1.0 liter motor was offered in the US and has the power to run things like auto, A/C, PS, PB, PW, and PM. If any one of the major auto makers ever offers a 2 seat in-line vehicle that better fuel economy than my Toyota Yaris, with auto, A/C, PS, PB, PW, PM, and a place for a navigation system, then I would consider buying such a vehicle to replace my Toyota Yarises.

  • ellenbetty

    Both of my Toyota Yarises are parked in rented parking spaces. I do not have access to a place to plug in a electric vehicle. I have zero plans to buy a electric car. While I would like to have solar panels on my home, I rent. I would need permission to install solar panels upon my home. I would have bought 2 Toyota Yarises with the 1.0 liter motor that gets 60+ mpg if the 1.0 liter motor was offered in the US and has the power to run things like auto, A/C, PS, PB, PW, and PM. If any one of the major auto makers ever offers a 2 seat in-line vehicle that better fuel economy than my Toyota Yaris, with auto, A/C, PS, PB, PW, PM, and a place for a navigation system, then I would consider buying such a vehicle to replace my Toyota Yarises.

  • ellenbetty

    Both of my Toyota Yarises are parked in rented parking spaces. I do not have access to a place to plug in a electric vehicle. I have zero plans to buy a electric car. While I would like to have solar panels on my home, I rent. I would need permission to install solar panels upon my home. I would have bought 2 Toyota Yarises with the 1.0 liter motor that gets 60+ mpg if the 1.0 liter motor was offered in the US and has the power to run things like auto, A/C, PS, PB, PW, and PM. If any one of the major auto makers ever offers a 2 seat in-line vehicle that better fuel economy than my Toyota Yaris, with auto, A/C, PS, PB, PW, PM, and a place for a navigation system, then I would consider buying such a vehicle to replace my Toyota Yarises.

  • Colton

    Yeah, i agree with WTF, those cars do look gay. This thing has happened many many times, it’s called change. It happened when we switched from horse to car, then on to better car, then to hybrid, now to electric. We need to stop being such pussies and figure out how to engineer a beast, at least 200miles max., 0-60 in at least 6(not hard for electric), and under $25k. why can’t we quit the war over gas, use that money to engineer electric, and prosper? …some things need to run on gas, but 99% of it doesn’t. We just need to put a realistic, non-pussy, non-“look at me I’m so worldly” and just figure out renewable on an individual scale… let me know if something comes up via comments.

  • Colton

    Yeah, i agree with WTF, those cars do look gay. This thing has happened many many times, it’s called change. It happened when we switched from horse to car, then on to better car, then to hybrid, now to electric. We need to stop being such pussies and figure out how to engineer a beast, at least 200miles max., 0-60 in at least 6(not hard for electric), and under $25k. why can’t we quit the war over gas, use that money to engineer electric, and prosper? …some things need to run on gas, but 99% of it doesn’t. We just need to put a realistic, non-pussy, non-“look at me I’m so worldly” and just figure out renewable on an individual scale… let me know if something comes up via comments.

  • Colton

    Yeah, i agree with WTF, those cars do look gay. This thing has happened many many times, it’s called change. It happened when we switched from horse to car, then on to better car, then to hybrid, now to electric. We need to stop being such pussies and figure out how to engineer a beast, at least 200miles max., 0-60 in at least 6(not hard for electric), and under $25k. why can’t we quit the war over gas, use that money to engineer electric, and prosper? …some things need to run on gas, but 99% of it doesn’t. We just need to put a realistic, non-pussy, non-“look at me I’m so worldly” and just figure out renewable on an individual scale… let me know if something comes up via comments.

  • james h.cadoo

    solar panels on roof would keep batteries charged and add to driving range,eliminating worry of out of power. is this avalable.I saw turn of century autos.edison electric and gould.. this is the way to go but their range was limited.. thank you

  • james h.cadoo

    solar panels on roof would keep batteries charged and add to driving range,eliminating worry of out of power. is this avalable.I saw turn of century autos.edison electric and gould.. this is the way to go but their range was limited.. thank you

  • james h.cadoo

    solar panels on roof would keep batteries charged and add to driving range,eliminating worry of out of power. is this avalable.I saw turn of century autos.edison electric and gould.. this is the way to go but their range was limited.. thank you

  • james h.cadoo

    electric cars in future.i saw turn of the century veichels using electric.draw back is travel distance. would solar panels on car roof aid is distance and eliminate worry about dead batteries people are ready for a comon sense veichel without the gadgets and just reavel from point a to pint b.whoneeds all the extras..thank you JC.

  • james h.cadoo

    electric cars in future.i saw turn of the century veichels using electric.draw back is travel distance. would solar panels on car roof aid is distance and eliminate worry about dead batteries people are ready for a comon sense veichel without the gadgets and just reavel from point a to pint b.whoneeds all the extras..thank you JC.

  • Dag Johansen

    With Th!nk mired in bankruptcy, I guess we are not going to see this car in the USA this year. And doubtful for 2010. I think the only time we’ll see one is after they build a factory in the USA.

  • Dag Johansen

    With Th!nk mired in bankruptcy, I guess we are not going to see this car in the USA this year. And doubtful for 2010. I think the only time we’ll see one is after they build a factory in the USA.

  • http://ExploreGoMedia Marti Edge

    What kind of government incentives will we see with these electric cars? I’m all for decreasing my use of gasoline and decreasing the amount of pollution from using a gasoline powered car. I would just like to see the price a little lower than 25K.

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    where can i find more of these cars and are they expensive to run

  • http://Web Shawn

    This car is worth about $12k, and that is it. It’s ridiculous how over-priced these electric cars are. $25,000 is not affordable, considering it’s a 4-seater, hatchback, with no real trunk or storage, unless you sacrifice 2 seats, making it a 2-seater, and it is not a sports car. The fact that it is electric means absolutely nothing, since it’s not like it runs on air. The consumer still has to pay to fuel it.

    It’s like being punished for trying to do the right thing.

    I never thought I’d be old and gray when this kind of technology becomes the norm, but it’s looking like that will be the case. At this rate, it’s going to be another 30-40 years, and that is pathetic.

  • David W. Wilson

    Heeeey…

    Look, not all Americans drive BIG gas gus-lin SUVs.
    However, it is all about money for most of us.
    I drive a 1991 Mazda Miata with 184K on it at 30 miles per gallon.
    Yeah and the top comes down.
    No car payments and it seats 2 and has a good heater and air con…
    Disc breaks, etc, uses no, no drips, oil, etc…

    Here in America things are spread out more than in Europe, in the towns for daily life…
    This can not be changed thought some of us wish it were.
    We have, my wife and I, have a 2007 Toyota RAV4 and get close to 34 MPG on highway with air, at 70mph, with the CD blasting, disc breaks, 2.4 L 4 cylinder, etc.
    Room for 5???.

    IF an electric vehicle comes along for 10K, 200 mile range and seats 4 why would no one get one…?
    Holy ship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    We have the technology today to make THIS happen.
    When will it.

    Over,
    dww

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  • rick smith

    has anyone really broke down the mileage on the all electric car to see cost on how much it takes to charge the car per mile and how much it cost per mile.

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