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	<title>Comments on: Biodiesel Myth (Or Fact?) #23: Biodiesel is Raising Food Prices</title>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/04/11/biodiesel-myth-or-fact-23-biodiesel-is-raising-food-prices/#comment-1524</link>
		<dc:creator>Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 06:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin and others are right dead on. I can cite the Indian scenario which supports their arguments.

Scarcities are created by a combination of factors-hoarding of existing stocks, lesser yields as farmers couldn&#039;t afford the high fertiliser prices (due to price hikes and/or withdrawal of subsidies on them)and less monsoon.

What is the % of arable land taken up by biofuel crops- negligible to cause any impact.

Yes, the oil lobby is working overtime to cause the distortions of truth.



And don&#039;t forget the economic terrorists aiming to dstabilise the developed and developing world for their own stupid ideological goals.



You have the recipe and we are feeling the heat all over the world. It will be worse, if immediate fiscal measures are not put in place to make available enough credit to farmers. The result could be catastrophic, worse than what we are seeing and may become difficult to reverse without timely action by US &amp; EU together.



Ram

This can only be mitigated by facing it without flinching and going about implementing economic and financial reforms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin and others are right dead on. I can cite the Indian scenario which supports their arguments.</p>
<p>Scarcities are created by a combination of factors-hoarding of existing stocks, lesser yields as farmers couldn&#8217;t afford the high fertiliser prices (due to price hikes and/or withdrawal of subsidies on them)and less monsoon.</p>
<p>What is the % of arable land taken up by biofuel crops- negligible to cause any impact.</p>
<p>Yes, the oil lobby is working overtime to cause the distortions of truth.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget the economic terrorists aiming to dstabilise the developed and developing world for their own stupid ideological goals.</p>
<p>You have the recipe and we are feeling the heat all over the world. It will be worse, if immediate fiscal measures are not put in place to make available enough credit to farmers. The result could be catastrophic, worse than what we are seeing and may become difficult to reverse without timely action by US &amp; EU together.</p>
<p>Ram</p>
<p>This can only be mitigated by facing it without flinching and going about implementing economic and financial reforms.</p>
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		<title>By: Orion</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/04/11/biodiesel-myth-or-fact-23-biodiesel-is-raising-food-prices/#comment-1523</link>
		<dc:creator>Orion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only rational way to go is non-food raw stocks such as algae produced on land rated marginal/unusable for food production.  There&#039;re *lots* of places in the US to run bioreactors that won&#039;t interfere with farming and to top it off the production rates with algae are far higher than we can achieve with either corn or soybeans.



Given investment capital I could see us cutting oil consumption by 80%-90% in 25 years.  It all depends on taking those first few steps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only rational way to go is non-food raw stocks such as algae produced on land rated marginal/unusable for food production.  There&#8217;re *lots* of places in the US to run bioreactors that won&#8217;t interfere with farming and to top it off the production rates with algae are far higher than we can achieve with either corn or soybeans.</p>
<p>Given investment capital I could see us cutting oil consumption by 80%-90% in 25 years.  It all depends on taking those first few steps.</p>
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		<title>By: Orion</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/04/11/biodiesel-myth-or-fact-23-biodiesel-is-raising-food-prices/#comment-23010</link>
		<dc:creator>Orion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only rational way to go is non-food raw stocks such as algae produced on land rated marginal/unusable for food production.  There&#039;re *lots* of places in the US to run bioreactors that won&#039;t interfere with farming and to top it off the production rates with algae are far higher than we can achieve with either corn or soybeans.



Given investment capital I could see us cutting oil consumption by 80%-90% in 25 years.  It all depends on taking those first few steps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only rational way to go is non-food raw stocks such as algae produced on land rated marginal/unusable for food production.  There&#8217;re *lots* of places in the US to run bioreactors that won&#8217;t interfere with farming and to top it off the production rates with algae are far higher than we can achieve with either corn or soybeans.</p>
<p>Given investment capital I could see us cutting oil consumption by 80%-90% in 25 years.  It all depends on taking those first few steps.</p>
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		<title>By: michael mcomber</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/04/11/biodiesel-myth-or-fact-23-biodiesel-is-raising-food-prices/#comment-1522</link>
		<dc:creator>michael mcomber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great insight 20% of soybean crop is extracted oil the rest is protein and carbs animal feed not so with corn ethanol check out Solazyme in the award winning documentary Fields of Fuel by Josh Tickell author of Fryer to the Fuel Tank and new fact filled Biodiesel America my favorite referrence book</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great insight 20% of soybean crop is extracted oil the rest is protein and carbs animal feed not so with corn ethanol check out Solazyme in the award winning documentary Fields of Fuel by Josh Tickell author of Fryer to the Fuel Tank and new fact filled Biodiesel America my favorite referrence book</p>
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		<title>By: michael mcomber</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/04/11/biodiesel-myth-or-fact-23-biodiesel-is-raising-food-prices/#comment-23009</link>
		<dc:creator>michael mcomber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great insight 20% of soybean crop is extracted oil the rest is protein and carbs animal feed not so with corn ethanol check out Solazyme in the award winning documentary Fields of Fuel by Josh Tickell author of Fryer to the Fuel Tank and new fact filled Biodiesel America my favorite referrence book</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great insight 20% of soybean crop is extracted oil the rest is protein and carbs animal feed not so with corn ethanol check out Solazyme in the award winning documentary Fields of Fuel by Josh Tickell author of Fryer to the Fuel Tank and new fact filled Biodiesel America my favorite referrence book</p>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/04/11/biodiesel-myth-or-fact-23-biodiesel-is-raising-food-prices/#comment-1521</link>
		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>algae algae algae.  Oh yeah.  Algae.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>algae algae algae.  Oh yeah.  Algae.</p>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/04/11/biodiesel-myth-or-fact-23-biodiesel-is-raising-food-prices/#comment-23008</link>
		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>algae algae algae.  Oh yeah.  Algae.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>algae algae algae.  Oh yeah.  Algae.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/04/11/biodiesel-myth-or-fact-23-biodiesel-is-raising-food-prices/#comment-1520</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were hired by a petroleum company to come up with an attack on competition from biodiesel (the way cigarette companies came up with &quot;arguments&quot; against health claims), I would look for something to counter the moral justification for biodiesel. How can this be shown to hurt the poor sympathetics of the world. That would sway a lot better than anything that looks like I want sympathy for my poor little oil megapoly.



The first time I ever heard of how biodiesel was &quot;immoral&quot; was from the CEO of Exxon (or Chevron...). Forgive me if I doubt the sincerity of the plea. A CEO is not hired to care about the poor, disenfranchised, non-stock holders of the world. He isn&#039;t paid $100 million a year to balance the needs of his corporate god against the benefits to humankind as a whole.



So when you tell me that most of the studies on the hike in fuel prices only looked at the contribution from biofuel, let&#039;s look at who funded that research. If it&#039;s petroleum companies, than they have successfully suckered us by appealing to our vulnerability as moral beings (which corporations are not.) The fact that we keep repeating these arguments shows just how successfully they&#039;ve duped us. So thanks for expanding the discussion and weakening their domination of the discussion.



Look at all the data, not just the part they&#039;ve disseminated for their cause!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were hired by a petroleum company to come up with an attack on competition from biodiesel (the way cigarette companies came up with &#8220;arguments&#8221; against health claims), I would look for something to counter the moral justification for biodiesel. How can this be shown to hurt the poor sympathetics of the world. That would sway a lot better than anything that looks like I want sympathy for my poor little oil megapoly.</p>
<p>The first time I ever heard of how biodiesel was &#8220;immoral&#8221; was from the CEO of Exxon (or Chevron&#8230;). Forgive me if I doubt the sincerity of the plea. A CEO is not hired to care about the poor, disenfranchised, non-stock holders of the world. He isn&#8217;t paid $100 million a year to balance the needs of his corporate god against the benefits to humankind as a whole.</p>
<p>So when you tell me that most of the studies on the hike in fuel prices only looked at the contribution from biofuel, let&#8217;s look at who funded that research. If it&#8217;s petroleum companies, than they have successfully suckered us by appealing to our vulnerability as moral beings (which corporations are not.) The fact that we keep repeating these arguments shows just how successfully they&#8217;ve duped us. So thanks for expanding the discussion and weakening their domination of the discussion.</p>
<p>Look at all the data, not just the part they&#8217;ve disseminated for their cause!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/04/11/biodiesel-myth-or-fact-23-biodiesel-is-raising-food-prices/#comment-23007</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were hired by a petroleum company to come up with an attack on competition from biodiesel (the way cigarette companies came up with &quot;arguments&quot; against health claims), I would look for something to counter the moral justification for biodiesel. How can this be shown to hurt the poor sympathetics of the world. That would sway a lot better than anything that looks like I want sympathy for my poor little oil megapoly.



The first time I ever heard of how biodiesel was &quot;immoral&quot; was from the CEO of Exxon (or Chevron...). Forgive me if I doubt the sincerity of the plea. A CEO is not hired to care about the poor, disenfranchised, non-stock holders of the world. He isn&#039;t paid $100 million a year to balance the needs of his corporate god against the benefits to humankind as a whole.



So when you tell me that most of the studies on the hike in fuel prices only looked at the contribution from biofuel, let&#039;s look at who funded that research. If it&#039;s petroleum companies, than they have successfully suckered us by appealing to our vulnerability as moral beings (which corporations are not.) The fact that we keep repeating these arguments shows just how successfully they&#039;ve duped us. So thanks for expanding the discussion and weakening their domination of the discussion.



Look at all the data, not just the part they&#039;ve disseminated for their cause!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were hired by a petroleum company to come up with an attack on competition from biodiesel (the way cigarette companies came up with &#8220;arguments&#8221; against health claims), I would look for something to counter the moral justification for biodiesel. How can this be shown to hurt the poor sympathetics of the world. That would sway a lot better than anything that looks like I want sympathy for my poor little oil megapoly.</p>
<p>The first time I ever heard of how biodiesel was &#8220;immoral&#8221; was from the CEO of Exxon (or Chevron&#8230;). Forgive me if I doubt the sincerity of the plea. A CEO is not hired to care about the poor, disenfranchised, non-stock holders of the world. He isn&#8217;t paid $100 million a year to balance the needs of his corporate god against the benefits to humankind as a whole.</p>
<p>So when you tell me that most of the studies on the hike in fuel prices only looked at the contribution from biofuel, let&#8217;s look at who funded that research. If it&#8217;s petroleum companies, than they have successfully suckered us by appealing to our vulnerability as moral beings (which corporations are not.) The fact that we keep repeating these arguments shows just how successfully they&#8217;ve duped us. So thanks for expanding the discussion and weakening their domination of the discussion.</p>
<p>Look at all the data, not just the part they&#8217;ve disseminated for their cause!</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Cordochorea</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/04/11/biodiesel-myth-or-fact-23-biodiesel-is-raising-food-prices/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Cordochorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 00:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was raised in corn country. Ogle county Illinois is where I lived and went to high-school.



Now, I was no farm-boy, but I wansn&#039;t blind either. Soy beans and corn did not &quot;compete.&quot; They were more like symbiotes. Corn sucked the nitrogen out of the soil. Soy beans put nitrogen back into the soil. Crops were alternated annually by most farmers.



Of course, that was three decades ago...



I would also like to know how much of the increase in food cost is due to the petroleum used to till, plant, fertilize, harvest, process, and deliver said food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised in corn country. Ogle county Illinois is where I lived and went to high-school.</p>
<p>Now, I was no farm-boy, but I wansn&#8217;t blind either. Soy beans and corn did not &#8220;compete.&#8221; They were more like symbiotes. Corn sucked the nitrogen out of the soil. Soy beans put nitrogen back into the soil. Crops were alternated annually by most farmers.</p>
<p>Of course, that was three decades ago&#8230;</p>
<p>I would also like to know how much of the increase in food cost is due to the petroleum used to till, plant, fertilize, harvest, process, and deliver said food.</p>
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