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	<title>Comments on: The World&#8217;s Most Fuel Efficient Car: 285 MPG, Not A Hybrid</title>
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	<description>What is the future of fuel?  What&#039;s new?  What&#039;s next?  Since 2007, Gas 2 has covered a rapidly changing world coming to terms with its oil addiction.</description>
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		<title>By: kenny lynch</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/#comment-135482</link>
		<dc:creator>kenny lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 02:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the guy that said that the big oil companies woun&#039;t let this happen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the guy that said that the big oil companies woun&#8217;t let this happen</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Kaup</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/#comment-133759</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Kaup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve all heard the calls lately for improved CAFE standards and it sounds good.  We&#039;d all like to be able to reduce our personal cost for driving as well as reduce our nation&#039;s and our planet&#039;s dependency on petroleum.  The problem is the proposed CAFE standards (along with E85 capable vehicles) are a feel good measure that actually gives vehicle manufacturers license to produce more, not less, large gas guzzling vehicles.

Lets do the math.  Take 2 cars that each are relatively safe and get 30 mpg each such as the Chevy Impala. The pair of them driving 1000 miles would consume 1000/30 x 2 gallons of gas or 66 gallons of gas.  Now lets take a pair of vehicles that together average 30 mpg.  I&#039;ll use a hypothetical 12 mpg vehicle (think Hummer) to average 30 mpg we&#039;ll pair it with a 48 mpg Honda Civic (48 +12 = 60 / 2 = 30).  Over the course of 1000 miles the Hummer will consume just over 83 gallons of gas.  So there&#039;s no need to even calculate the Civic&#039;s mileage.  Even if it ran on sunshine nothing it could do could offset the Hummer&#039;s terrible mileage.  By itself it consumed more than a pair of Impala&#039;s so the idea that somehow we can offset to achieve a goal of reducing gas consumption doesn&#039;t even come close to passing the &quot;back of napkin&quot; test.
Another real problem with CAFE standards is that in order to get these offsets car manufacturers need to get us to buy ultra efficient cars.  This is how we got the Geo Metro a few years back.  So instead of having vehicles of similar sizes on the road we have lots of cars at the extremes.  This leads to a partially correct view that small cars are dangerous.  They don&#039;t have to be, but when built with ultra high MPG as the main goal, they are too small to stand up to a high speed collision with a large or medium size vehicle.  This perception of small cars as dangerous leads more people to buy large vehicles &quot;to be safe&quot;.  This increases the danger to those occupants of the smallest cars and increases the danger to the occupants of the large SUV who otherwise might be in something more sensible such as an Impala.  The Impala is safer than the Hummer because it doesn&#039;t roll over as easily AND people in Impalas are more likely to wear their safety belts.
CAFE standards that allow averaging simple MPG numbers rather than averaging gallons of gas consumed lead to unintended consequences that we can&#039;t live with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve all heard the calls lately for improved CAFE standards and it sounds good.  We&#8217;d all like to be able to reduce our personal cost for driving as well as reduce our nation&#8217;s and our planet&#8217;s dependency on petroleum.  The problem is the proposed CAFE standards (along with E85 capable vehicles) are a feel good measure that actually gives vehicle manufacturers license to produce more, not less, large gas guzzling vehicles.</p>
<p>Lets do the math.  Take 2 cars that each are relatively safe and get 30 mpg each such as the Chevy Impala. The pair of them driving 1000 miles would consume 1000/30 x 2 gallons of gas or 66 gallons of gas.  Now lets take a pair of vehicles that together average 30 mpg.  I&#8217;ll use a hypothetical 12 mpg vehicle (think Hummer) to average 30 mpg we&#8217;ll pair it with a 48 mpg Honda Civic (48 +12 = 60 / 2 = 30).  Over the course of 1000 miles the Hummer will consume just over 83 gallons of gas.  So there&#8217;s no need to even calculate the Civic&#8217;s mileage.  Even if it ran on sunshine nothing it could do could offset the Hummer&#8217;s terrible mileage.  By itself it consumed more than a pair of Impala&#8217;s so the idea that somehow we can offset to achieve a goal of reducing gas consumption doesn&#8217;t even come close to passing the &#8220;back of napkin&#8221; test.<br />
Another real problem with CAFE standards is that in order to get these offsets car manufacturers need to get us to buy ultra efficient cars.  This is how we got the Geo Metro a few years back.  So instead of having vehicles of similar sizes on the road we have lots of cars at the extremes.  This leads to a partially correct view that small cars are dangerous.  They don&#8217;t have to be, but when built with ultra high MPG as the main goal, they are too small to stand up to a high speed collision with a large or medium size vehicle.  This perception of small cars as dangerous leads more people to buy large vehicles &#8220;to be safe&#8221;.  This increases the danger to those occupants of the smallest cars and increases the danger to the occupants of the large SUV who otherwise might be in something more sensible such as an Impala.  The Impala is safer than the Hummer because it doesn&#8217;t roll over as easily AND people in Impalas are more likely to wear their safety belts.<br />
CAFE standards that allow averaging simple MPG numbers rather than averaging gallons of gas consumed lead to unintended consequences that we can&#8217;t live with.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/#comment-130302</link>
		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 18:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not the most stylish, but excellent for city driving...what is the horsepower and torque on this beast?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not the most stylish, but excellent for city driving&#8230;what is the horsepower and torque on this beast?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher DeMorro</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/#comment-130154</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher DeMorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 13:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ john stevens

Actually, VW is moving forward with a limited run of a vehicle based on this concept.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://gas2.org/2011/01/31/vw-will-build-100-formula-xl-1-261-mpg-vehicles/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gas2.org/2011/01/31/vw-will-build-100-formula-xl-1-261-mpg-vehicles/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ john stevens</p>
<p>Actually, VW is moving forward with a limited run of a vehicle based on this concept.</p>
<p><a href="http://gas2.org/2011/01/31/vw-will-build-100-formula-xl-1-261-mpg-vehicles/" rel="nofollow">http://gas2.org/2011/01/31/vw-will-build-100-formula-xl-1-261-mpg-vehicles/</a></p>
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		<title>By: john stevens</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/#comment-130132</link>
		<dc:creator>john stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 02:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think the greedy oil companies and  greedy government with gasoline taxes would actually allow this car to be produced? lol... only in your dreams</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think the greedy oil companies and  greedy government with gasoline taxes would actually allow this car to be produced? lol&#8230; only in your dreams</p>
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		<title>By: 261 MPG VW XL1 Concept Confirmed for 2013 Production &#124; Environmental, Health and Safety News</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/#comment-126519</link>
		<dc:creator>261 MPG VW XL1 Concept Confirmed for 2013 Production &#124; Environmental, Health and Safety News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VW XL1 Concept Confirmed for 2013 Production  Posted on November 1, 2011 by Editor     Remember the world’s most fuel-efficienct car? Volkswagen has been showing off increasingly-efficient versions of their original 1L concept for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] VW XL1 Concept Confirmed for 2013 Production  Posted on November 1, 2011 by Editor     Remember the world’s most fuel-efficienct car? Volkswagen has been showing off increasingly-efficient versions of their original 1L concept for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 261 MPG VW XL1 Concept Confirmed for 2013 Production</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/#comment-126472</link>
		<dc:creator>261 MPG VW XL1 Concept Confirmed for 2013 Production</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are new here, you might want to subscribe to the RSS feed for updates on this topic.Remember the world’s most fuel-efficienct car? Volkswagen has been showing off increasingly-efficient versions of their original 1L concept for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/#comment-122318</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So 2010 has come and gone.  Where is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So 2010 has come and gone.  Where is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Most Fuel Efficient Car: 285 MPG, Not A Hybrid &#171; Interesting Things</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/#comment-110359</link>
		<dc:creator>Most Fuel Efficient Car: 285 MPG, Not A Hybrid &#171; Interesting Things</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 01:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Story Continues &amp; More pictures -&gt; Most Fuel Efficient Car: 285 MPG, Not A Hybrid [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wat Theravuthi</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/#comment-110051</link>
		<dc:creator>Wat Theravuthi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 08:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At present we really need a car not that efficient 285 MPG if we can have a car half of this target efficiency the world will be very happy for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At present we really need a car not that efficient 285 MPG if we can have a car half of this target efficiency the world will be very happy for now.</p>
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