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		<title>By: Mr. Biodiesel Meets Gas 2.0 At Sundance Film Fest : Ecoscraps</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/01/18/2008-sundance-film-festival-gets-underway/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Biodiesel Meets Gas 2.0 At Sundance Film Fest : Ecoscraps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2.0 writer Clayton B. Cornell meets Mr. Biodiesel himself, Josh Tickell, at this year&#8217;s Sundance Film Festival. Tickell is author of several books on biodiesel, including  From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2.0 writer Clayton B. Cornell meets Mr. Biodiesel himself, Josh Tickell, at this year&#8217;s Sundance Film Festival. Tickell is author of several books on biodiesel, including  From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/01/18/2008-sundance-film-festival-gets-underway/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your response; great information!



Keep up the excellent work.



Sara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response; great information!</p>
<p>Keep up the excellent work.</p>
<p>Sara</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/01/18/2008-sundance-film-festival-gets-underway/#comment-21872</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your response; great information!



Keep up the excellent work.



Sara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response; great information!</p>
<p>Keep up the excellent work.</p>
<p>Sara</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton B. Cornell</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/01/18/2008-sundance-film-festival-gets-underway/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton B. Cornell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@2 Adam: Where did you go to school? (my undergrad was University of Utah)... The beauty is hard to beat, no question about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@2 Adam: Where did you go to school? (my undergrad was University of Utah)&#8230; The beauty is hard to beat, no question about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton B. Cornell</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/01/18/2008-sundance-film-festival-gets-underway/#comment-21869</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton B. Cornell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@2 Adam: Where did you go to school? (my undergrad was University of Utah)... The beauty is hard to beat, no question about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@2 Adam: Where did you go to school? (my undergrad was University of Utah)&#8230; The beauty is hard to beat, no question about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton B. Cornell</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/01/18/2008-sundance-film-festival-gets-underway/#comment-21870</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton B. Cornell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@2 Adam: Where did you go to school? (my undergrad was University of Utah)... The beauty is hard to beat, no question about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@2 Adam: Where did you go to school? (my undergrad was University of Utah)&#8230; The beauty is hard to beat, no question about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton B. Cornell</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/01/18/2008-sundance-film-festival-gets-underway/#comment-21871</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton B. Cornell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@2 Adam: Where did you go to school? (my undergrad was University of Utah)... The beauty is hard to beat, no question about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@2 Adam: Where did you go to school? (my undergrad was University of Utah)&#8230; The beauty is hard to beat, no question about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton B. Cornell</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/01/18/2008-sundance-film-festival-gets-underway/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton B. Cornell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara,

Here are some replies from the biofuels4oregon listserv:



Oregon&#039;s Business Energy Tax Credit is great.  By far and away the best

program in existence.



Main Oregon DOE website here:  http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/index.shtml



Business Energy Tax Credit (aka BET-C) info here:

http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/CONS/BUS/BETC.shtml



The BET-C is simple.  On any capital project you file for the BET-C with a

simple form.  They approve it, you do the project, and the state offers a

50% Income Tax credit on the project.  They also allow a pass through so

that a cash strapped business can sell the BET-C for cash up front with the

project.  This makes the addition of a biofuel tank really attractive to

existing fuel providers.  In particular if they are doing work on their

tank, dispensers, etc..... the construction project can easily add a BET-C

pump and tank and reduce the overall cost enough to pay back even with a

slower moving biofuel product.



Mark Fitz

StarOilco



The bio-fuels industry is a three legged stool where the industry has

focused on only two: production and marketing (mostly wholesale).

Distribution and infrastructure is lacking everywhere and when the talk

comes around to distribution, again, government and big oil skip bio-diesel

and ethanol, moving to a high profile, highly regulated (the better to

control you with), and therefore high $$$, distribution system like the

&quot;Hydrogen Highway.&quot;



There are general incentives for increasing alternative energy production

and distribution systems (BETC, Blender&#039;s Credits, etc.) but no specific

incentives to support development of bio-fuel retail distribution and

delivery. Star Oil, Whole Energy, and SeQuential may have better information

on the subject for you.



How does one deal with the &quot;Chicken and Egg&quot; paradox with regard to

bio-fuels? How do bio-fuel distributors develop and sustain enough volume in

the market to become profitable before the start up capital runs out?

Especially, when as soon as you open your doors every petro dealer in your

neighborhood will do everything in its power, with the backing of their big

oil suppliers, to undercut you to keep its strangle hold on the fuel market.

If you are old enough to remember &quot;Gas Wars,&quot; this fight will be much more

intense than the internal disputes among oil companies for who gets to

control what market share.



Jeff, GO Bio Co.



P.S. The Gas Wars are over. They won. Guess who lost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara,</p>
<p>Here are some replies from the biofuels4oregon listserv:</p>
<p>Oregon&#8217;s Business Energy Tax Credit is great.  By far and away the best</p>
<p>program in existence.</p>
<p>Main Oregon DOE website here:  <a href="http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/index.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/index.shtml</a></p>
<p>Business Energy Tax Credit (aka BET-C) info here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/CONS/BUS/BETC.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/CONS/BUS/BETC.shtml</a></p>
<p>The BET-C is simple.  On any capital project you file for the BET-C with a</p>
<p>simple form.  They approve it, you do the project, and the state offers a</p>
<p>50% Income Tax credit on the project.  They also allow a pass through so</p>
<p>that a cash strapped business can sell the BET-C for cash up front with the</p>
<p>project.  This makes the addition of a biofuel tank really attractive to</p>
<p>existing fuel providers.  In particular if they are doing work on their</p>
<p>tank, dispensers, etc&#8230;.. the construction project can easily add a BET-C</p>
<p>pump and tank and reduce the overall cost enough to pay back even with a</p>
<p>slower moving biofuel product.</p>
<p>Mark Fitz</p>
<p>StarOilco</p>
<p>The bio-fuels industry is a three legged stool where the industry has</p>
<p>focused on only two: production and marketing (mostly wholesale).</p>
<p>Distribution and infrastructure is lacking everywhere and when the talk</p>
<p>comes around to distribution, again, government and big oil skip bio-diesel</p>
<p>and ethanol, moving to a high profile, highly regulated (the better to</p>
<p>control you with), and therefore high $$$, distribution system like the</p>
<p>&#8220;Hydrogen Highway.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are general incentives for increasing alternative energy production</p>
<p>and distribution systems (BETC, Blender&#8217;s Credits, etc.) but no specific</p>
<p>incentives to support development of bio-fuel retail distribution and</p>
<p>delivery. Star Oil, Whole Energy, and SeQuential may have better information</p>
<p>on the subject for you.</p>
<p>How does one deal with the &#8220;Chicken and Egg&#8221; paradox with regard to</p>
<p>bio-fuels? How do bio-fuel distributors develop and sustain enough volume in</p>
<p>the market to become profitable before the start up capital runs out?</p>
<p>Especially, when as soon as you open your doors every petro dealer in your</p>
<p>neighborhood will do everything in its power, with the backing of their big</p>
<p>oil suppliers, to undercut you to keep its strangle hold on the fuel market.</p>
<p>If you are old enough to remember &#8220;Gas Wars,&#8221; this fight will be much more</p>
<p>intense than the internal disputes among oil companies for who gets to</p>
<p>control what market share.</p>
<p>Jeff, GO Bio Co.</p>
<p>P.S. The Gas Wars are over. They won. Guess who lost?</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton B. Cornell</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/01/18/2008-sundance-film-festival-gets-underway/#comment-21868</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton B. Cornell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara,

Here are some replies from the biofuels4oregon listserv:



Oregon&#039;s Business Energy Tax Credit is great.  By far and away the best

program in existence.



Main Oregon DOE website here:  http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/index.shtml



Business Energy Tax Credit (aka BET-C) info here:

http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/CONS/BUS/BETC.shtml



The BET-C is simple.  On any capital project you file for the BET-C with a

simple form.  They approve it, you do the project, and the state offers a

50% Income Tax credit on the project.  They also allow a pass through so

that a cash strapped business can sell the BET-C for cash up front with the

project.  This makes the addition of a biofuel tank really attractive to

existing fuel providers.  In particular if they are doing work on their

tank, dispensers, etc..... the construction project can easily add a BET-C

pump and tank and reduce the overall cost enough to pay back even with a

slower moving biofuel product.



Mark Fitz

StarOilco



The bio-fuels industry is a three legged stool where the industry has

focused on only two: production and marketing (mostly wholesale).

Distribution and infrastructure is lacking everywhere and when the talk

comes around to distribution, again, government and big oil skip bio-diesel

and ethanol, moving to a high profile, highly regulated (the better to

control you with), and therefore high $$$, distribution system like the

&quot;Hydrogen Highway.&quot;



There are general incentives for increasing alternative energy production

and distribution systems (BETC, Blender&#039;s Credits, etc.) but no specific

incentives to support development of bio-fuel retail distribution and

delivery. Star Oil, Whole Energy, and SeQuential may have better information

on the subject for you.



How does one deal with the &quot;Chicken and Egg&quot; paradox with regard to

bio-fuels? How do bio-fuel distributors develop and sustain enough volume in

the market to become profitable before the start up capital runs out?

Especially, when as soon as you open your doors every petro dealer in your

neighborhood will do everything in its power, with the backing of their big

oil suppliers, to undercut you to keep its strangle hold on the fuel market.

If you are old enough to remember &quot;Gas Wars,&quot; this fight will be much more

intense than the internal disputes among oil companies for who gets to

control what market share.



Jeff, GO Bio Co.



P.S. The Gas Wars are over. They won. Guess who lost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara,</p>
<p>Here are some replies from the biofuels4oregon listserv:</p>
<p>Oregon&#8217;s Business Energy Tax Credit is great.  By far and away the best</p>
<p>program in existence.</p>
<p>Main Oregon DOE website here:  <a href="http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/index.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/index.shtml</a></p>
<p>Business Energy Tax Credit (aka BET-C) info here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/CONS/BUS/BETC.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/CONS/BUS/BETC.shtml</a></p>
<p>The BET-C is simple.  On any capital project you file for the BET-C with a</p>
<p>simple form.  They approve it, you do the project, and the state offers a</p>
<p>50% Income Tax credit on the project.  They also allow a pass through so</p>
<p>that a cash strapped business can sell the BET-C for cash up front with the</p>
<p>project.  This makes the addition of a biofuel tank really attractive to</p>
<p>existing fuel providers.  In particular if they are doing work on their</p>
<p>tank, dispensers, etc&#8230;.. the construction project can easily add a BET-C</p>
<p>pump and tank and reduce the overall cost enough to pay back even with a</p>
<p>slower moving biofuel product.</p>
<p>Mark Fitz</p>
<p>StarOilco</p>
<p>The bio-fuels industry is a three legged stool where the industry has</p>
<p>focused on only two: production and marketing (mostly wholesale).</p>
<p>Distribution and infrastructure is lacking everywhere and when the talk</p>
<p>comes around to distribution, again, government and big oil skip bio-diesel</p>
<p>and ethanol, moving to a high profile, highly regulated (the better to</p>
<p>control you with), and therefore high $$$, distribution system like the</p>
<p>&#8220;Hydrogen Highway.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are general incentives for increasing alternative energy production</p>
<p>and distribution systems (BETC, Blender&#8217;s Credits, etc.) but no specific</p>
<p>incentives to support development of bio-fuel retail distribution and</p>
<p>delivery. Star Oil, Whole Energy, and SeQuential may have better information</p>
<p>on the subject for you.</p>
<p>How does one deal with the &#8220;Chicken and Egg&#8221; paradox with regard to</p>
<p>bio-fuels? How do bio-fuel distributors develop and sustain enough volume in</p>
<p>the market to become profitable before the start up capital runs out?</p>
<p>Especially, when as soon as you open your doors every petro dealer in your</p>
<p>neighborhood will do everything in its power, with the backing of their big</p>
<p>oil suppliers, to undercut you to keep its strangle hold on the fuel market.</p>
<p>If you are old enough to remember &#8220;Gas Wars,&#8221; this fight will be much more</p>
<p>intense than the internal disputes among oil companies for who gets to</p>
<p>control what market share.</p>
<p>Jeff, GO Bio Co.</p>
<p>P.S. The Gas Wars are over. They won. Guess who lost?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Denison</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2008/01/18/2008-sundance-film-festival-gets-underway/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Denison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope you enjoy Utah. I went to school out there and it is an absolutely beautiful place. Looking forward to seeing your documentary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope you enjoy Utah. I went to school out there and it is an absolutely beautiful place. Looking forward to seeing your documentary!</p>
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