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	<title>Comments on: Car Hacker&#039;s Hummer Gets 60 MPG</title>
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		<title>By: fuzzywzhe</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2007/12/14/car-hackers-hummer-gets-60-mpg/#comment-127972</link>
		<dc:creator>fuzzywzhe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China doesn&#039;t give a crap about US companies, they need to industrialize.  If it were possible to get a car that did 60 miles per gallon, they would adopt it immediately.

Tata&#039;s Nano gets 60 miles to the gallon.  No H2 Hummer does, in the world, nor will it ever.  This article is bullshit.  It&#039;s a complete lie.  It&#039;s a scam.  You can have a 100% efficient generator, and you still won&#039;t get 60 miles to the gallon on a 6000 pound piece of shit vehicle with no aerodynamics.

The author of this article is just a lazy stupid bonehead that doesn&#039;t do any research or fact checking advertising for a professional liar and conman.  That&#039;s all this is.  A dumb shit head that couldn&#039;t be bothered to actually verify these bullshit claims.  Why do these stupid fucking idiots have a job when they don&#039;t do their job?  I don&#039;t even have to look at the car to know this is bullshit, I can just calculate the energy in vegetable oil, which is about the same as diesel, and how much air has to be displaced by an H2.

This article is a just total lie.  Let me be as clear I can about this.  If Jonathan Goodwin is claiming he modified an H2 to get 60 miles per gallon of either gasoline or diesel, or french fry oil, he&#039;s a total lying scumbag.  You might be able to get it with Hydrogen, but to make that liquid it has to be under quite a bit of pressure and cooled considerably.  But not a hydrocarbon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China doesn&#8217;t give a crap about US companies, they need to industrialize.  If it were possible to get a car that did 60 miles per gallon, they would adopt it immediately.</p>
<p>Tata&#8217;s Nano gets 60 miles to the gallon.  No H2 Hummer does, in the world, nor will it ever.  This article is bullshit.  It&#8217;s a complete lie.  It&#8217;s a scam.  You can have a 100% efficient generator, and you still won&#8217;t get 60 miles to the gallon on a 6000 pound piece of shit vehicle with no aerodynamics.</p>
<p>The author of this article is just a lazy stupid bonehead that doesn&#8217;t do any research or fact checking advertising for a professional liar and conman.  That&#8217;s all this is.  A dumb shit head that couldn&#8217;t be bothered to actually verify these bullshit claims.  Why do these stupid fucking idiots have a job when they don&#8217;t do their job?  I don&#8217;t even have to look at the car to know this is bullshit, I can just calculate the energy in vegetable oil, which is about the same as diesel, and how much air has to be displaced by an H2.</p>
<p>This article is a just total lie.  Let me be as clear I can about this.  If Jonathan Goodwin is claiming he modified an H2 to get 60 miles per gallon of either gasoline or diesel, or french fry oil, he&#8217;s a total lying scumbag.  You might be able to get it with Hydrogen, but to make that liquid it has to be under quite a bit of pressure and cooled considerably.  But not a hydrocarbon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Borras</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2007/12/14/car-hackers-hummer-gets-60-mpg/#comment-127968</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Borras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s natural to be skeptical of any intelligent person buying a Hummer, but he seems fairly legit.  Turbines are ideal generators, and - if the Army has proven nothing else - any bonehead can work on a Hummer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s natural to be skeptical of any intelligent person buying a Hummer, but he seems fairly legit.  Turbines are ideal generators, and &#8211; if the Army has proven nothing else &#8211; any bonehead can work on a Hummer.</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzywzhe</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2007/12/14/car-hackers-hummer-gets-60-mpg/#comment-127967</link>
		<dc:creator>fuzzywzhe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bull shit.

That&#039;s all this article is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bull shit.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all this article is.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2007/12/14/car-hackers-hummer-gets-60-mpg/#comment-84192</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 01:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dumb-ass named &quot;ROCKY&quot; what is water made out of??? here&#039;s the model,,,, &quot;&quot;H20&quot;&quot; hydrogen makes water=water causes flooding=flooding cause oceans=END OF US!?! if u didnt finish high school then shut the fuck up and shove your comments to someone that cares like the govenment since there not doing shit but making more fucking problems!?!?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dumb-ass named &#8220;ROCKY&#8221; what is water made out of??? here&#8217;s the model,,,, &#8220;&#8221;H20&#8243;&#8221; hydrogen makes water=water causes flooding=flooding cause oceans=END OF US!?! if u didnt finish high school then shut the fuck up and shove your comments to someone that cares like the govenment since there not doing shit but making more fucking problems!?!?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: cheap solar panels</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2007/12/14/car-hackers-hummer-gets-60-mpg/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>cheap solar panels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This goes to show that car companies are not producing cars as efficient as they can. It seems that everyone except car companies can do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This goes to show that car companies are not producing cars as efficient as they can. It seems that everyone except car companies can do this.</p>
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		<title>By: cheap solar panels</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2007/12/14/car-hackers-hummer-gets-60-mpg/#comment-21768</link>
		<dc:creator>cheap solar panels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This goes to show that car companies are not producing cars as efficient as they can. It seems that everyone except car companies can do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This goes to show that car companies are not producing cars as efficient as they can. It seems that everyone except car companies can do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ju Dam</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2007/12/14/car-hackers-hummer-gets-60-mpg/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Ju Dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is awesome! Hummer H3 with 60 MPG! I&#039;m extremely jealous. My small car does get me 60 MPG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome! Hummer H3 with 60 MPG! I&#8217;m extremely jealous. My small car does get me 60 MPG.</p>
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		<title>By: Ju Dam</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2007/12/14/car-hackers-hummer-gets-60-mpg/#comment-21766</link>
		<dc:creator>Ju Dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is awesome! Hummer H3 with 60 MPG! I&#039;m extremely jealous. My small car does get me 60 MPG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome! Hummer H3 with 60 MPG! I&#8217;m extremely jealous. My small car does get me 60 MPG.</p>
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		<title>By: Ju Dam</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2007/12/14/car-hackers-hummer-gets-60-mpg/#comment-21767</link>
		<dc:creator>Ju Dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is awesome! Hummer H3 with 60 MPG! I&#039;m extremely jealous. My small car does get me 60 MPG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome! Hummer H3 with 60 MPG! I&#8217;m extremely jealous. My small car does get me 60 MPG.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomo-kun</title>
		<link>http://gas2.org/2007/12/14/car-hackers-hummer-gets-60-mpg/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomo-kun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;money for nothing&quot; concept of fuel production *always* stirs up interesting comments, and I love blogs like this!  BUT, as mentioned by nearly everyone, you *can&#039;t* get something for nothing.  But too many others have commented along those lines.  I won&#039;t.



I *will* comment on &quot;the diesel issue&quot; in regards to the US as I&#039;ve owned diesel vehicles for ages.  None US made, BTW.  (though there are some decent trucks out there with good unmodded economy.)





I found a way to double the fuel economy of the Smart Car ForTwo -- I simply purchased a non-US model with a turbo diesel engine! lol



Sadly, the much hyped smart -- which has been around for ten years now, pretty much everywhere but the US -- got an mpg trip to make it &quot;legal&quot; in the USA.  The current US models get on average of 35-40 mpg from a non-turbo petrol engine.



I have an unmodified 1985 heavy slow Mercedes Benz with 5 cylinder turbo-diesel that will get 33 on the highway!



Back to the smart comment -- my other car is a 2006 smart CDI Canadian spec with teeeeeeny 800cc turbo-diesel engine, and on the highway *it* gets nearly 70 mpg with no mods, using regular or biodiesel.



If Mercedes can build engines with such economy, why can&#039;t Detroit??  If Japan can do the same, why can&#039;t Detroit?  And why do they have to be detuned to meet US spec when EU specs for emissions are even tighter????  Why has diesel suddenly gone up in cost past premium gasoline when it used to be half the price of regular????  (the &quot;low sulfur&quot; excuse doesn&#039;t cut it, Exxon!!!  The EU has had low sulfur fuels for many years!)



Questions, so many questions, never any real answers.



I think GM soured the US interest in diesel automobiles in the 70&#039;s with a series of underdesigned engines that stayed broken all the time.  Combine that with the various tarriff and trade hits given makers such as Mercedes and there isn&#039;t much incentive to attempt to sell more diesel powered cars.  VW *has* has offered cars in the past  -- the smoky diesel Rabbit from years ago -- and currently with their more modern turbo-diesels that deliver 60 mpg easily.



Will American car buyers heed the call???  At least a few of us have, as seen on this site and others that focus on maximizing fuel economy.



I mean, diesels have been the mainstay for Europe and the UK for many decades.





But as for water and home-brew Browns Gas, who knows of a way to make it in large enough quantites -- and with no scammy-smelling offers for $100 downloadable files.  *shrug*





Another tangent - we had an early Chevy Sprint (Suzuki Swift) that got over 50 mpg on the road.  Later models got less and less fuel economy.  My wife drives a 2007 Ford Taurus which barely makes 22 mpg, but yet earlier models with similar engines could easily extract 30 miles per gallon of petrol.  What is it with Detroit??  Is it any wonder nearly all US car companies have gone under?  And why are US built Toyotas and Hondas sold as imports, while Mexican built Fords are sold as domestic????   Yea, more questions, few answers.



Laterz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;money for nothing&#8221; concept of fuel production *always* stirs up interesting comments, and I love blogs like this!  BUT, as mentioned by nearly everyone, you *can&#8217;t* get something for nothing.  But too many others have commented along those lines.  I won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I *will* comment on &#8220;the diesel issue&#8221; in regards to the US as I&#8217;ve owned diesel vehicles for ages.  None US made, BTW.  (though there are some decent trucks out there with good unmodded economy.)</p>
<p>I found a way to double the fuel economy of the Smart Car ForTwo &#8212; I simply purchased a non-US model with a turbo diesel engine! lol</p>
<p>Sadly, the much hyped smart &#8212; which has been around for ten years now, pretty much everywhere but the US &#8212; got an mpg trip to make it &#8220;legal&#8221; in the USA.  The current US models get on average of 35-40 mpg from a non-turbo petrol engine.</p>
<p>I have an unmodified 1985 heavy slow Mercedes Benz with 5 cylinder turbo-diesel that will get 33 on the highway!</p>
<p>Back to the smart comment &#8212; my other car is a 2006 smart CDI Canadian spec with teeeeeeny 800cc turbo-diesel engine, and on the highway *it* gets nearly 70 mpg with no mods, using regular or biodiesel.</p>
<p>If Mercedes can build engines with such economy, why can&#8217;t Detroit??  If Japan can do the same, why can&#8217;t Detroit?  And why do they have to be detuned to meet US spec when EU specs for emissions are even tighter????  Why has diesel suddenly gone up in cost past premium gasoline when it used to be half the price of regular????  (the &#8220;low sulfur&#8221; excuse doesn&#8217;t cut it, Exxon!!!  The EU has had low sulfur fuels for many years!)</p>
<p>Questions, so many questions, never any real answers.</p>
<p>I think GM soured the US interest in diesel automobiles in the 70&#8242;s with a series of underdesigned engines that stayed broken all the time.  Combine that with the various tarriff and trade hits given makers such as Mercedes and there isn&#8217;t much incentive to attempt to sell more diesel powered cars.  VW *has* has offered cars in the past  &#8212; the smoky diesel Rabbit from years ago &#8212; and currently with their more modern turbo-diesels that deliver 60 mpg easily.</p>
<p>Will American car buyers heed the call???  At least a few of us have, as seen on this site and others that focus on maximizing fuel economy.</p>
<p>I mean, diesels have been the mainstay for Europe and the UK for many decades.</p>
<p>But as for water and home-brew Browns Gas, who knows of a way to make it in large enough quantites &#8212; and with no scammy-smelling offers for $100 downloadable files.  *shrug*</p>
<p>Another tangent &#8211; we had an early Chevy Sprint (Suzuki Swift) that got over 50 mpg on the road.  Later models got less and less fuel economy.  My wife drives a 2007 Ford Taurus which barely makes 22 mpg, but yet earlier models with similar engines could easily extract 30 miles per gallon of petrol.  What is it with Detroit??  Is it any wonder nearly all US car companies have gone under?  And why are US built Toyotas and Hondas sold as imports, while Mexican built Fords are sold as domestic????   Yea, more questions, few answers.</p>
<p>Laterz</p>
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